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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:05am On Apr 11, 2016
mavverick:
Excuzeme

Thanks for the tip, are you actually serious between 90k - 125k. Do you mean for 1 wardrobe or like a bundle, so if its 1 that is very high to me. If I want to do DIY, buy all the materials etc and just pay someone preferrably to fabricate on site, like how much will that cost ? Shebi its just a case of going to AMU market one time ?

What happened to solid oak/mahogany/strong wood warbrobes, and using wood stain + varnish to finish it ? As in those wood you can go and cut in the bush and finish it off ?

The funny thing is that most tenants dont send your 90k wardrobe oo, they will still use it anyhow and how much is caution fee self ? caution fee cannot even buy more than 1 wardrobe, not to talk of the other things that could get damaged.

If one doesnt want imported MDF etc, what are the other options ?

Thanks in advance.


Na so my oga. People don't really like those old wooden frame wardrobe again.

If the house is for rental purpose, the cheapest and attractive alternative is to to build a wall at the side and then frame inside with 25mm x 75mm soft wood, use 1/4 plywood to complete the inner frame, then you can use 1/2 plywood with wooden frame door of say 'afrara' madobia or mailina wood.

For a 4ft x 6f wardrobe it will cost you less than 50k together with workmanship
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:47pm On Apr 11, 2016
abdulwastecx

Thanks for the reply.
You mean a wardrobe like the one pictured below is classed as old school ?
The house is rental, unfortunately no space left for the concrete framed wardrobe and the walls have been plastered, floor tiled. i understand its too late to be building casted wardrobe at the moment, since the wall needs to be broken for the concrete wardrobe to be anchored into the wall. if its the casted wardrobe. is it not just a case of having the doors constructed and a couple of drawers for the bottom ? Do you know how much that will cost to build roughly ?

sharp and plaster sand.
granite for casting.
carpenter
iron bender with Y10 or Y12 rebars for the top.
bricklayer to cast and plaster.

Thanks.

abdulwastecx:


Na so my oga. People don't really like those old wooden frame wardrobe again.

If the house is for rental purpose, the cheapest and attractive alternative is to to build a wall at the side and then frame inside with 25mm x 75mm soft wood, use 1/4 plywood to complete the inner frame, then you can use 1/2 plywood with wooden frame door of say 'afrara' madobia or mailina wood.

For a 4ft x 6f wardrobe it will cost you less than 50k together with workmanship

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 1:17pm On Apr 11, 2016
Please can anyone in the house help out on this.
How long can a sandfilled foundation takes before it settles naturally without ramming or filling it up with water. 1, 2,3,4 etc months prior to german floor casting.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:24pm On Apr 11, 2016
back2sender:
Please can anyone in the house help out on this.
How long can a sandfilled foundation takes before it settles naturally without ramming or filling it up with water. 1, 2,3,4 etc months prior to german floor casting.

It depend on type of soil and the season of the year (raining season or dry season).

Sandy soil take shorter period of time during raining.
After one month of extensive rain and sunshine will do
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 1:42pm On Apr 11, 2016
abdulwastecx:


It depend on type of soil and the season of the year (raining season or dry season).

Sandy soil take shorter period of time during raining.
After one month of extensive rain and sunshine will do
Thanks alot abdul for the swift response.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 2:46pm On Apr 11, 2016
mavverick:
abdulwastecx

Thanks for the reply.
You mean a wardrobe like the one pictured below is classed as old school ?
The house is rental, unfortunately no space left for the concrete framed wardrobe and the walls have been plastered, floor tiled. i understand its too late to be building casted wardrobe at the moment, since the wall needs to be broken for the concrete wardrobe to be anchored into the wall. if its the casted wardrobe. is it not just a case of having the doors constructed and a couple of drawers for the bottom ? Do you know how much that will cost to build roughly ?

sharp and plaster sand.
granite for casting.
carpenter
iron bender with Y10 or Y12 rebars for the top.
bricklayer to cast and plaster.

Thanks.


This is the cheapest alternative and it is more suitable for rental properties with stubborn Tennant.

Formwork ( only one formwork can be used for all the wardrobes).

2sheet of marine board (3/4 plywood of 4ft x 8ft) @ N5,500 each = N11,000

2 x 3 brazing, nail, and bamboo pole to support the upper portion of the wardrobe = N 20,000.

Workmanship per wardrobe = N4,000

For 11 wardrobes, total amount for formwork = N 75,000.

Reinforcement
4Y 8 or Y 10 per wardrobe, making a total of 44Y8 or Y10
Cost around N35,000 or N40,000

Casting
30bags of cement for 11 wardrobe
I trip of stone dust

Workmanship for casting =N25,000

Plastering of the wardrobes will cost you N40,000.
Internal partitioning cost N40,000
Doors of the window N55,000.
Total = N275,000/11
It will cost you about N25,000 per wardrobe
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 3:58pm On Apr 11, 2016
As usual, big thanks to you.

abdulwastecx:


This is the cheapest alternative and it is more suitable for rental properties with stubborn Tennant.

Formwork ( only one formwork can be used for all the wardrobes).

2sheet of marine board (3/4 plywood of 4ft x 8ft) @ N5,500 each = N11,000

2 x 3 brazing, nail, and bamboo pole to support the upper portion of the wardrobe = N 20,000.

Workmanship per wardrobe = N4,000

For 11 wardrobes, total amount for formwork = N 75,000.

Reinforcement
4Y 8 or Y 10 per wardrobe, making a total of 44Y8 or Y10
Cost around N35,000 or N40,000

Casting
30bags of cement for 11 wardrobe
I trip of stone dust

Workmanship for casting =N25,000

Plastering of the wardrobes will cost you N40,000.
Internal partitioning cost N40,000
Doors of the window N55,000.
Total = N275,000/11
It will cost you about N25,000 per wardrobe

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 4:00pm On Apr 11, 2016
A fried of mine told me yesterday that stone dust can be used for plastering, and i was left arguing with him as it sounded strange to me.

For the benefit of education, our engineers in the house. Please in the construction of a house, where would stone dust be used ? I know of interlocking stone casting, i hear that one. But please state other areas and state where it is essential or a nice to use.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:07pm On Apr 11, 2016
mavverick:
A fried of mine told me yesterday that stone dust can be used for plastering, and i was left arguing with him as it sounded strange to me.

For the benefit of education, our engineers in the house. Please in the construction of a house, where would stone dust be used ? I know of interlocking stone casting, i hear that one. But please state other areas and state where it is essential or a nice to use.

Stone dust is a very good fine aggregates for sancrete block and concrete production.
It is very useful as a replacement for sand in areas where it is cheap (places like Abuja).

It can also be mixed with plaster sand to control temperature cracking during hammertern season etc
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 4:27pm On Apr 11, 2016
For rentals we use the attached. Cost about 30k all in

Can it still be done with wall plastered and floor tiled absolutely.

mavverick:
abdulwastecx

Thanks for the reply.
You mean a wardrobe like the one pictured below is classed as old school ?
The house is rental, unfortunately no space left for the concrete framed wardrobe and the walls have been plastered, floor tiled. i understand its too late to be building casted wardrobe at the moment, since the wall needs to be broken for the concrete wardrobe to be anchored into the wall. if its the casted wardrobe. is it not just a case of having the doors constructed and a couple of drawers for the bottom ? Do you know how much that will cost to build roughly ?

sharp and plaster sand.
granite for casting.
carpenter
iron bender with Y10 or Y12 rebars for the top.
bricklayer to cast and plaster.

Thanks.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:30pm On Apr 11, 2016
Good to see you guys talking about wardrobe,I'll have to do 9 of this style soon.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 6:34pm On Apr 11, 2016
euromilion:
Good to see you guys talking about wardrobe,I'll have to do 9 of this style soon.
I think thats the best style if we want to cut cost. I will prefer setting the blocks and doing the rebars of the top together with the house block work and lintel to kill the cost once and for all.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 7:31pm On Apr 11, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 7:48pm On Apr 11, 2016
3strikes:
This is what we have in desmond flats. Any Tenants wey no like am can go build their own.

Anything worth doing worth doing right.

If I were you, I would have asked for re-work or refund on the finishing job done on this house.

Because it is rental property doesn't mean the people who did the finishing shouldn't do their work right. I am not talking about high budget here. Regardless of budget, the people who did this finishing didn't do it right. I would have torn into the people if this was my project.

I'm tired of these Nigerian artisans.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:50pm On Apr 11, 2016
3strikes:
This is what we have in desmond flats. Any Tenants wey no like am can go build their own.

This idea is not bad (except the finishing part of it)... but suppose you don't have the wall partition already built and house don finish?

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 8:22pm On Apr 11, 2016
@ fastshipping and Hajj I agree. not the best but manageable for now.......We go upgrade in the future.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 9:35pm On Apr 11, 2016
Oga's in the house.

I don't know if we have ppl who do 3d floor in Nigeria.
The first 3d I saw with my two eyes was in Cairo (tho i didn't knew its called 3d then until I came across it on a lady's thread weeks ago so I have to Google search and I noticed Dubai use it often and the price ranges from 100$-500$ per sqm.

Do we have them In Nigeria?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2016
@agarawu23.....this 3d flooring with animals will actually be a lovely flooring for children's room. Anyone who can do this should be abe to do stretch ceiling and 3d ceiling. I am also keen on knowing who can do this.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:08am On Apr 12, 2016
agarawu23:
Oga's in the house.

I don't know if we have ppl who do 3d floor in Nigeria.
The first 3d I saw with my two eyes was in Cairo (tho i didn't knew its called 3d then until I came across it on a lady's thread weeks ago so I have to Google search and I noticed Dubai use it often and the price ranges from 100$-500$ per sqm.

Do we have them In Nigeria?

Yes. Someone advertise it here some time ago. If I find it again, I will forward it.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:17am On Apr 12, 2016
Good, Fast or Cheap?

We may be used to hearing "Good, Fast or Cheap - Pick Two" in a humorous way. There's Real Truth to it.

Service and quality are remembered long after the price is forgotten.

brabus Sept 7, 2012:
Cost Saving, True Savings

To save money on building materials you need to analyze design and function. It is important to review the layout of the home, the function of each rooms, and to see which material will work best.

I would rather spend less on roofing and have a nicer kitchen than spend more on ceiling and have leaking pipes.

Cost saving should be achieved by having efficient design, not efficient negotiation!
The durability and longevity of the products should be the priority. You might find a great deal on laminated flooring in the lobby, but if it starts peeling up in two years due to traffic, you will have to spend thousands to fix it.

In this instance, the cost savings were consumed by having to fix or replace the materials and hire a contractor to install it - all of which cost more than using a quality product upfront.

So, where's the saving?

__________
When it comes to finishes, I'd rather skip some things to fix them later or build a smaller footprint than compromise on quality.
Sorry to say, the number of people I've met here on Nairaland who wouldn't compromise on finishing are less than 2%.

And that (finishing) is the real deal.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:25am On Apr 12, 2016
With the above said, there's nothing like having movable wardrobes in a house in this time and age.

First thing that should be at the back of the mind of property owners (especially those in the rental business), is that it's not always about you but the type of tenant you wanted to attract.

The question I always ask myself is "Can I live here myself?" "If I had a better option at a little more cost, will I jump at it?"

Maybe, it's me sha but I do know it works where it is well implemented.
Funny enough, it doesn't have to be overly expensive for it to make meaning. You just need to know those area where it should be quality upfront.

If I have 5 rooms, I'll rather finish 3 to good taste than finish 5 and live in regrets. Dem no dey catch late comer, neither do they give awards to first to finish.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:29am On Apr 12, 2016
2011

Property Type: Private Residence

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:34am On Apr 12, 2016
2013

Property Type: Private Residence

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:39am On Apr 12, 2016
2015

Property Type: Rental

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:40am On Apr 12, 2016
Concept design and a finished kitchen

Pic 1: Proposed Wardrobe design (opened and closed)

Pic 2: A mid-range finished kitchen

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 4:35am On Apr 12, 2016
@brabus.....Mavverick is looking for pocket friendly wardrobe designs that are nice looking and considering the history between both of you, i doubt if he will consider you except he wants to move past the just concluded issue and focus on getting wardrobe through you. Who knows, you might redeem yourself and you guys might become bestie.
Anyway, don't you think this will be expensive but for information sake, what's the cost of the wardrobe design? Is it local or imported material?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:09am On Apr 12, 2016
babalose:
@brabus.....Mavverick is looking for pocket friendly wardrobe designs that are nice looking and considering the history between both of you, i doubt if he will consider you except he wants to move past the just concluded issue and focus on getting wardrobe through you. Who knows, you might redeem yourself and you guys might become bestie.


grin grin Bro, is it like?

Hi, my name is Brabus. I'm a wardrobe specialist. I can do your wardrobe cheap cheap. Call me 080111111111111. If you can't reach me on this line, pls call my other line 071202020202020

Sorry bro, the right jobs find us. We don't look for jobs. No advert. Moreso, I don't understand the term pocket friendly so much but cost efficiency and getting value-for-money which everyone (landlord and the tenant) is entitled to.

I'm sure Maverrick too knew I won't subscribe or support him on this. At least, he's the only client on Nairaland that I've ever designed a kitchen for in collaboration with an international furniture company (Wickes). And the design was approved, produced and delivered to Nigeria. 8 units of fully fitted kitchen.

But these "anko" "copy copy" or "egbejoda" wey hin dey do, I really can't understand. He may have his reasons sha.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:43am On Apr 12, 2016
If Maverrick is looking for affordable, yet super stylish. He knew I can come up with something cool without breaking bank. He just needs to ask. That won't affect our repayment plan.

A sliding door wardrobe will make more sense to me in this scenario.

Here's how to achieve a budget-friendly yet stylish and modern wardrobe in a rental property.

1. Build a wall enclosure for the wardrobe.
2. Get 2 sheets of marine boards or very good plywood to build the internal partitions. The more the partition, the more expensive it becomes.
3. Get an aluminum specialist to do a very beautiful sliding doors for the wardrobe. The cover can be plywood, polycarbonate, MDF instead of glass. You can even put your creative juice to work by putting mirror on the door.
4. Paint and finish.
5. Light it up. Get creative with colours.

Cost shouldn't be more than N30 - N35k per unit considering the large number, you'll have more savings and your tenant will love it. The aluminum man will eat the largest chunk of the budget. 65 - 70%

Not only have you solved your wardrobe budget issue, you've also succeeded in saving space with a sliding door wardrobe in a very stylish way. We just need to think outside the box.

NextHome.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 5:54am On Apr 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Yes. Someone advertise it here some time ago. If I find it again, I will forward it.

Hajji M.
baba, you are right. But there wasn't details on the thread. Hope we can get information about it if they operate in Nigeria.

babalose:
@agara wu23.....this 3d flooring with animals will actually be a lovely flooring for children's room. Anyone who can do this should be abe to do stretch ceiling and 3d ceiling. I am also keen on knowing who can do this.
baba, if you know how this 3d attracted me the first time I saw it in a hotel eh, I was looking at it continuously. Kids rooms is the best place for it and the middle of your living room where the center table will seat. We can also use it anywhere if we can afford the price cos I know it will be expensive.

Who will do it in Nigeria is the question now.

GM sir's
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 6:14am On Apr 12, 2016
@agarawu23....i checked there website based on the weblink in the pictures you attached earlier and they said the 3d flooring can last up to 10years which is more than enough time for kids to enter another age group and yearn for something different. When i say kids, i am talking from my own perspective based on current project for now. As for who can do it in Nigeria and will give 10 years warranty is what i don't know. I am not a party to recurrent expenses.

@brabus...i always knew you could think outside the box, if you want. Don't tell me you don't know the meaning of pocket friendly, this is lovely and a testament to pocket friendly. It's something i will gladly do to save cost and save space. A combination of aluminum, polycarbonate, plywood, mdf and mirror. This thread always lives to its name.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 6:36am On Apr 12, 2016
Babalose, 10years with heavy traffic usage isn't bad only if the price is friendly. There is no room for wasting much on things that can't bring income.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 6:39am On Apr 12, 2016
mufutau55:


Yes. Someone advertise it here some time ago. If I find it again, I will forward it.

Hajji M.


Hajj ...Please I want in on the 3d floor, I beg you my oga @ the top.

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