DOES HELL REALLY EXIST?
What you're about to read is hard to believe. . .

Several years ago a book was published titled Beyond Death's Door by Dr Maurice Rawlings. Dr Rawlings, a specialist in Internal Medicine and Cardiovascular Disease, resuscitated many people who had been clinically dead. Dr Rawlings, a devout atheist, "considered all religion "hocus-pocus" and death nothing more than a painless extinction". But something happened in 1977 that brought a dramatic change in the life of Dr Rawlings! He was resuscitating a man, terrified and screaming — descending down into the flames of hell:

"Each time he regained heartbeat and respiration, the patient screamed, "I am in hell!" He was terrified and pleaded with me to help him. I was scared to death. . . Then I noticed a genuinely alarmed look on his face. He had a terrified look worse than the expression seen in death! This patient had a grotesque grimace expressing sheer horror! His pupils were dilated, and he was perspiring and trembling — he looked as if his hair was "on end."

Then still another strange thing happened. He said, "Don't you understand? I am in hell. . . Don't let me go back to hell!" . . .the man was serious, and it finally occurred to me that he was indeed in trouble. He was in a panic like I had never seen before." (Maurice Rawlings, Beyond Death's Door,(Thomas Nelson Inc., 1979) p. 3).

Dr Rawlings said, no one, who could have heard his screams and saw the look of terror on his face could doubt for a single minute that he was actually in a place called hell!

". . . THEY DIG INTO THE HELL . . ." Amos 9:2
Another scientist Dr Azzacove Picks from Dr Rawling with this stunning revelation. He says "As a communist I don’t believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we know what we heard. And we are absolutely convinced that we drilled through the gates of Hell!"

Dr Azzacove continued, ". . .the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit."

"We lowered a microphone, designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft. But instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain! At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment."

"But when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams weren’t those of a single human, they were the screams of millions of humans! (These details are from the translation of an article in a Finnish newspaper name 'Ammennusatia'.

Do you know why Jacques Costeau, the famous underwater explorer, quit deep sea diving sometime before he died? It is said that he stopped because he had heard in one of the underwater caves he was exploring, the sounds of people screaming.

There was also another time, when one of his men, who was in a diving bell in the deepest trench at the Bermuda Triangle, also had a similar experience. He signalled to be brought up immediately. After being revived from his shock, he told others of his frightening experience of hearing people's screams while under the deepest part of the sea.

The Bible continually warns of a place called hell. There are over 162 references in the New Testament alone which warns of hell. And over 70 of these references were uttered by the Lord Jesus Christ!

In Luke 16, Jesus Christ gives a frightening picture of hell:
22 . . . the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father�s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Luke 16:22-28)

HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE
The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME."
In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ."
Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE."

THE BIBLE GIVES THE LOCATION OF HELL
When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He descended into hell. In Acts 2, Peter is speaking, verse 31, " . . . seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL" When Jesus Christ died His soul went into hell.

And in Matthew 12:40, Jesus Christ says: "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly: so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH. "The Bible is clear — Hell is inside the earth!

Ephesians 4:9, says of Jesus: "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH."

On page 85 of Beyond Death Door, Dr. Rawlings writes patients who described hell said, ". . . this place seems to be UNDERGROUND or WITHIN THE EARTH in some way." Scientist and Bible teacher, Henry Morris also agrees the Bible plainly teaches that hell is in this earth:
"So far as we can tell from Scripture, the present hell, is somewhere in the heart of the earth itself. It is also called 'the pit' (Isa. 14:9, 15: Ezek. 32:18-21) and 'the abyss' (Rev. 9:2). . .

The writers certainly themselves believed hell to be real and geographically 'beneath' the earth's surface. . .

To say this is not scientific is to assume science knows much more about the earth's interior than is actually the case. The great 'pit' [hell] would only need to be about 100 miles or less in diameter to contain, with much room to spare, all the forty billion or so people who have ever lived, assuming their 'spiritual' bodies are the same size as their physical bodies." (Henry M. Morris, The Bible Has the Answer, p. 220)

The Birmingham News, April 10, 1987 had an article entitled "Earth's Center Hotter Than Sun's Surface, Scientists Say". The article stated that scientists have recently discovered, "THE EARTH'S INNER CORE HAS A TEMPERATURE OF OVER 12,000 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT!"

Have you seen pictures of a volcano erupting, spewing a lake of fire from inside the earth — consuming everything within miles just from the heat? When Mount St. Helens erupted in May 18, 1980, it was described by reporters, "When HELL surfaced upon the earth." The book, Volcanoes, Earth's Awakening (p.91) describes an erupting volcano as "descent into HELL".

YES! THERE IS A PLACE CALLED HELL!
In Numbers 16, the Bible gives the account of people falling into hell alive! "And THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive INTO THE PIT, and the EARTH CLOSED UPON THEM:" Numbers 16:32-33

Caspar Peucer, a famous fourteenth century astronomer and physician, who also researched and documented the volcanoe eruptions at Heklafell wrote some very frightening information in his research findings. Peucer, claims (as others) that "fearful howlings, weeping and gnashing of teeth" could be heard "for many miles. . ." as these volcanoes erupted: "Out of the bottomless abyss of Heklafell, or rather out of Hell itself, rise melancholy cries and loud wailings, so that these can be heard for many miles around . . . there may be heard in the mountain fearful howlings, weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Haraldur Sigurdsson, Melting the Earth, The History of Ideas on Volcanic Eruptions, p. 73)

And Caspar Peucer is not alone. There are others who believe they have heard "cries and screaming" coming from volcanoes. Most have tried to ignore the obvious. Some simply explain the "sounds of hell" to some rational meaning. But they are there. . ."The fearsome noises that issued from some of their volcanoes were certainly thought to be the screams of tormented souls in the fires of hell below". (Haraldur Sigurdsson, Melting the Earth, The History of Ideas on Volcanic Eruptions, p. 73)
Inside this earth, this very moment, there are millions of lost, tormented souls — burning, weeping, wailing — without any hope whatsoever!

In Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell: "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Jesus said explicitly — THEIR worm — not a worm, or the worm — but THEIR worm. The Bible teaches that Christians will one day have a body like the Lord Jesus Christ. Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS. Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."

And Jesus Christ said, "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
National Geographic magazine truthfully titled their story on Volcanoes "Going To Hell". When PBS did a series on The Savage Earth, one episode was titled "Hell's Crust: Our Everchanging Planet". Everything we know. Everything we observe. Echoes the truth of a place called hell.
Nature magazine recently discovered (July 2002) what the Bible knew over 3,000 years ago. Inside this earth is "fire and brimstone": "Volcanoes may be more like hell than anyone realized. Eruptions disgorge streams of molten sulphur, the brimstone of evangelical preachers, which burns up before it can be preserved for posterity, new research in the journal Geology shows". (Nature, Science Update, July 22, 2002)

HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT
Jesus says of the man in Luke 16:
23 "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENTS. . . "
24 ". . . for I am TORMENTED in this FLAME."
28 ". . .PLACE OF TORMENT."
It is humanly impossible to comprehend the Bible description of hell. Nothing on earth can compare with it. No nightmare could produce a terror to match that of hell. No horror movie could describe it�s fright. No crime scene with all it�s blood and gore could begin to match it�s horror.
It will be beyond anything humanly imaginable!

The Bible warns in Psalm 9:17, you will not only be in hell — you will BE TURNED INTO HELL! You will literally BE HELL! “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” Psalm 9:17

The Bible describes it as weeping (Matt 8:12), wailing (Matt 13:42), gnashing of teeth (Matt 13:50), darkness (Matt 25:30), flames (Luke 16:24), burning (Isa 33:14), torments (Luke 16:23), everlasting punishment! Jesus Christ says in Matthew 25:41, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels."

In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."


HELL IS FOREVER!
Rev. 14:11: "The smoke of their TORMENT ascendeth up for EVER AND EVER: and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT." Just look how the Bible warns of the eternity and permanence of hell:

everlasting fire - Matthew18:8, 25:41
everlasting punishment - Matthew 25:46
everlasting chains-Jude 1:6
eternal damnation -Mark 3:29
eternal judgment -Hebrews 6:2
eternal fire -Jude 1:7
unquenchable fire - Matthew 3:12
the fire that never shall be quenched -Mark 9:43, 44, 45, 46, 48
fire unquenchable - Luke 3:17
mist of darkness is reserved for ever - 2 Peter 2:17
the blackness of darkness for ever - Jude 1:13

What could possibly be worth eternity in hell? No wonder Jesus Christ warned so much about hell! No wonder Jesus said in Mark 8:36, "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and LOSE HIS OWN SOUL?"

Hebrews 9:27 says, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this THE JUDGEMENT"
Friend, it is appointed unto man once to die . . . and one day — YOU will die . . .
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments . . .

But God is a God of LOVE. . . Why would a GOD OF LOVE send me to hell? Yes, God is a GOD OF LOVE — but God is also a HOLY GOD. A HOLY GOD demands payment for sin. Otherwise God would NOT and could NOT be HOLY.

Because God is holy — sin MUST be condemned. Joshua 24:19 says, ". . he is an HOLY GOD;. . . he will NOT forgive your transgressions nor your sins."

BUT FRIEND I HAVE GOOD NEWS!
God does NOT want you in hell because hell was not made for man. Matthew 25:41 says, hell was, ". . . prepared for the devil and his angels:"

Because God is a GOD OF LOVE, and He LOVED YOU so much, He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to this earth to die a cruel death on a cross to pay the price a HOLY GOD demands for your sins.
Roman 5:8 says, "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. God does not send someone to hell. You choose hell when you reject Jesus Christ. When you refuse God's love gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ. . .

DON’T GO TO HELL!
Millionaire Ted Turner, said in an interview,” I’m looking forward to dying and being cast into Hell. That's where I belong." You say —a fool! But friend, when you say "No" to Jesus Christ and His payment for your sin — you are saying the same thing! "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, repent from all your sins, confess and forsake them, become a new creature in Jesus and you will be saved from the terror of hell.

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Please explain this: Revelation 20: 12-14

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

You've just written a book. Anyone can come to any conclusion. As for me, I can't reconcile a God called 'LOVE' creating his own images & then pushing them into eternal torments for any reason. I say he is pushing them because he made them with a constitution oriented toward sin (his road to Hell). Even the Bible says most people are going to hell. If u are a car manufacturer & most of ur cars are known for somersaulting @ 50 k/hr, should you blame & punish the cars by incinerating them or should u assume responsibility? How much more God? Meanwhile tell me the justice in God meting out eternal punishment for sins committed in time. Jesus said 'if u who are evil know how to give good things to ur children, how much more will ur Father in Heaven?' Taking a cue from Jesus I also ask 'if u who are evil cannot send ur child to eternal excrutiating torments, how much less will your heavenly Father who is LOVE?' Pls answer.

BreketeMind:
You've just written a book. Anyone can come to any conclusion. As for me, I can't reconcile a God called 'LOVE' creating his own images & then pushing them into eternal torments for any reason. I say he is pushing them because he made them with a constitution oriented toward sin (his road to Hell). Even the Bible says most people are going to hell. If u are a car manufacturer & most of ur cars are known for somersaulting @ 50 k/hr, should you blame & punish the cars by incinerating them or should u assume responsibility? How much more God? Meanwhile tell me the justice in God meting out eternal punishment for sins committed in time. Jesus said 'if u who are evil know how to give good things to ur children, how much more will ur Father in Heaven?' Taking a cue from Jesus I also ask 'if u who are evil cannot send ur child to eternal excrutiating torments, how much less will your heavenly Father who is LOVE?' Pls answer.

He is not sending anybody there. Anyone who goes there is a choice they made.
Let's take Satanists for instance, what will you have God do with them? Just like Ted Turner the Owner of CNN said, he said he belongs in hellfire. what would you have God do? Bring him to heaven against his will? Satan is an enemy of God and God prepared hell for Satan not Man, but what of men who have chosen Satan over God?
What should God do with those who work for Satan and have his nature? Should the gate of heaven be opened for them? If the gate of heaven is opened but they don't have the prerequisite to access the gate, what then?
They have taken a stand against God.
What will you do if you were God?

analice107:

...Anyone who goes there is a choice they made. Just like Ted Turner...said...he belongs in hellfire...If the gate of heaven is opened but they don't have the prerequisite to access the gate, what then? What will you do if you were God?

You did not ask Ted Turner WHY he said so & u just said he said. Steve Job stopped going to Church & I'll tell u WHY: he saw starving Biafran children on a magazine in 1968 & couldn't understand how Love (God) would allow that. It is the biggest 'holy' lie to say going to hell is people's choice. Who'd choose suffering? Instead, because God has made the 'prerequisite' too high for them, they give up. That's why a great majority are ending up there & Love(!) insensitively keeps the prerequisite too high. So who's sending them there? If I was God & most of my products are not meeting my own standard, I will take responsibility for the obvious lack by either improving on the products or lowering the standard - to answer u.

analice107:

He is not sending anybody there. Anyone who goes there is a choice they made.
Let's take Satanists for instance, what will you have God do with them? Just like Ted Turner the Owner of CNN said, he said he belongs in hellfire. what would you have God do? Bring him to heaven against his will? Satan is an enemy of God and God prepared hell for Satan not Man, but what of men who have chosen Satan over God?
What should God do with those who work for Satan and have his nature? Should the gate of heaven be opened for them? If the gate of heaven is opened but they don't have the prerequisite to access the gate, what then?
They have taken a stand against God.
What will you do if you were God?

A true Christian, analice107!

Ot course, IF I was God, I would torture all unbelievers in unending,unimaginable agony.

Who wouldn't?? We are God's, after all...[sup][/sup]

Hell is real but not in the sense it is potrayed. God did not create hell, man did. Man has the freewill to choose between good and evil, we have the choice but are bound by its consequences.
When holding a gun in the market place, you have a choice of firing or not firing the gun. When the gun is fired, you cannot tell the bullet to come back. Similarly, we have a freewill, but when we act, we are responsible for its consequences.
God created man, but man chose to do evil, the effect of our evil gave rise to the place where people that chose to do evil go.
We need to know that man is spirit and as a spirit, it forms. All our activities create forms either food or bad. We have created the hell fire in creation not God.

BreketeMind:
You did not ask Ted Turner WHY he said so & u just said he said. Steve Job stopped going to Church & I'll tell u WHY: he saw starving Biafran children on a magazine in 1968 & couldn't understand how Love (God) would allow that. It is the biggest 'holy' lie to say going to hell is people's choice. Who'd choose suffering? Instead, because God has made the 'prerequisite' too high for them, they give up. That's why a great majority are ending up there & Love(!) insensitively keeps the prerequisite too high. So who's sending them there? If I was God & most of my products are not meeting my own standard, I will take responsibility for the obvious lack by either improving on the products or lowering the standard - to answer u.

I'd that's the excuse he will give God for denying his existence? Typical of a Satanist who was looking for every stupid reason to blab. So now that he stopped going to church, Churches closed up all over the world?

Just one single bank account in Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi's name was discovered trillions of Naira. Just one account. If we are to discover all his other accounts, God k knows what we will discover. Go to his village and see his own people starving. Blame God for his theft.
I read a book about the Biafran War Titled "Soja Boy", True life story of a bus conductor well above teenage age who was conscripted into the army. The book talked about the greed of the Biafran elite military who helped Ojukwu loose the War. They turned to business men hoarding and selling food and medical aids brought in by foreign countries for soldiers and the civilians.
All that is not to be blamed on man at all, it should be blamed on God. They all stole and are still stealing in the name of God.

Why didn't Steve Job read "EMEKA" By Frederick Forsythe? He should have read more books about the civil war then take a gun, climb up to heaven and shoot God for giving man the freewill to do as he chose.

Those on Satan's side don't talk about man's responsibilities in the way the world has turned out, only blame God.
The same tactics in Eden, blaming God for hiding the "God" secrete from Adam.

No, to the question.

Please I don't seem to get the op,
Is he saying someone went to hell and came back?
Does the op mean people are already going to hell prior to judgment day?
Are scientists the ones to suggest the location of hellfire?
So scientists are the ones now telling us the location of hellfire, they e end saw the gate? Na waoo.
So OP hellfire is now leaking? That mean we not safe, we are still battling global warming and it's effect now hellfire is leaking. Na double wahala oooo.
So they also saw the worms without entering hellfire?
By the way why are the worms in the vents of the sea not in hellfire?
Is hell to hot for them?
So one can actually dig beyond the gates of hellfire, what's he digging by the way?
Is this post also saying abyss is hellfire?
Did the Bible mentioned abyss as a fiery place?
Is volcano no longer one of the natural disasters?
So hellfire can erupt as volcano or what?
Someone perhaps the op should kindly make things clearer.

analice107:


I'd that's the excuse he will give God for denying his existence? Typical of a Satanist who was looking for every stupid reason to blab. So now that he stopped going to church, Churches closed up all over the world?

Just one single bank account in Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi's name was discovered trillions of Naira. Just one account. If we are to discover all his other accounts, God k knows what we will discover. Go to his village and see his own people starving. Blame God for his theft.
I read a book about the Biafran War Titled "Soja Boy", True life story of a bus conductor well above teenage age who was conscripted into the army. The book talked about the greed of the Biafran elite military who helped Ojukwu loose the War. They turned to business men hoarding and selling food and medical aids brought in by foreign countries for soldiers and the civilians.
All that is not to be blamed on man at all, it should be blamed on God. They all stole and are still stealing in the name of God.

Why didn't Steve Job read "EMEKA" By Frederick Forsythe? He should have read more books about the civil war then take a gun, climb up to heaven and shoot God for giving man the freewill to do as he chose.

Those on Satan's side don't talk about man's responsibilities in the way the world has turned out, only blame God.
The same tactics in Eden, blaming God for hiding the "God" secrete from Adam.

Why do I have a feeling that if hell actually exists, u are going there. Seriously you can sit down and talk about the evil that men do, condem them and mentally send them to hell for being mean, heartless, and satanic. But whenever I read ur post u actually sound like the heartless one. Hell will actually be filled with people like u and ur God.
Man never created himself if we must go by ur nonsensical Bible story. God created man and gave him choice, he didn't just stop there, he put the evil tree in man's face and made him decide. He was practically pushing man to fail.
Ur God knew man could possibly make two choices... And when man made the wrong choice he didn't regret putting the tree there, he actually regretted creating man.... What the f**k.
Now man is evil... In a world of scarce means, over population, individual difference, need to survive, survival of the fittest, how exactly do u and ur God want man to behave?
You condemn thieves to hell like they deserve it. I really don't think even Hitler deserve hell. Why? Almost everyman can give justification for their action.
You call Amaechi names and think he deserve hell? I bet you, you don't know how many people survive on Amaechi's excesses. You see him as hell bound some see him as their life line.

Your God remains hiding, and instead of waving a hand to make evil go away he is busy pouring fuel in hell... Justice my asssss.

I am glad for judgement day, becasue that is when we will put him on trail and send him to hell, do u wanna join him or repent?

frank317:


Why do I have a feeling that if hell actually exists, u are going there. Seriously you can sit down and talk about the evil that men do, condem them and mentally send them to hell for being mean, heartless, and satanic. But whenever I read ur post u actually sound like the heartless one. Hell will actually be filled with people like u and ur God.
Man never created himself if we must go by ur nonsensical Bible story. God created man and gave him choice, he didn't just stop there, he put the evil tree in man's face and made him decide. He was practically pushing man to fail.
Ur God knew man could possibly make two choices... And when man made the wrong choice he didn't regret putting the tree there, he actually regretted creating man.... What the f**k.
Now man is evil... In a world of scarce means, over population, individual difference, need to survive, survival of the fittest, how exactly do u and ur God want man to behave?
You condemn thieves to hell like they deserve it. I really don't think even Hitler deserve hell. Why? Almost everyman can give justification for their action.
You call Amaechi names and think he deserve hell? I bet you, you don't know how many people survive on Amaechi's excesses. You see him as hell bound some see him as their life line.

Your God remains hiding, and instead of waving a hand to make evil go away he is busy pouring fuel in hell... Justice my asssss.

I am glad for judgement day, becasue that is when we will put him on trail and send him to hell, do u wanna join him or repent?

That's her way ooo, she can judge people and decide who goes to hell.
I said it to her before, any small thing she starts throwing people inside hell.

goodnews201668:


That's her way ooo, she can judge people and decide who goes to hell.
I said it to her before, any small thing she starts throwing people inside hell.

Well, what do u expect from a lady whose mum had to make her under go torture for picking up money. I have always said it... You can't claim to be all good and holy yet condone hell. Then justify this wicked thought by saying humans take themselves there and not God.
The acceptance of hell as a justified punishment for sinners is only a prove that every human has a wicked side even though we don't accept it that's why justification of this wickedness is necessary.
This so called born again lady thinks she is all good and christlike and holy, yet somewhere in her good mind,she thinks Amaechi deserves to burn forever and ever becasue of his wickedness. Isn't such a thought wicked? Yet she thinks she deserves heaven despite having such a wicked thought.

Well analice, some if us also stole as kid but our parents did not torture us to do away with the act, yet we turned out good.

That actually shows how cruel she will be, she can no longer wait to start throwing people inside hell then she will happy that God is burning them.
She's cruel and as such think God is cruel too.

frank317:


Well, what do u expect from a lady whose mum had to make her under go torture for picking up money. I have always said it... You can't claim to be all good and holy yet condone hell. Then justify this wicked thought by saying humans take themselves there and not God.
The acceptance of hell as a justified punishment for sinners is only a prove that every human has a wicked side even though we don't accept it that's why justification of this wickedness is necessary.
This so called born again lady thinks she is all good and christlike and holy, yet somewhere in her good mind,she thinks Amaechi deserves to burn forever and ever becasue of his wickedness. Isn't such a thought wicked? Yet she thinks she deserves heaven despite having such a wicked thought.

Well analice, some if us also stole as kid but our parents did not torture us to do away with the act, yet we turned out good.

frank317:


Why do I have a feeling that if hell actually exists, u are going there. Seriously you can sit down and talk about the evil that men do, condem them and mentally send them to hell for being mean, heartless, and satanic. But whenever I read ur post u actually sound like the heartless one. Hell will actually be filled with people like u and ur God.
Man never created himself if we must go by ur nonsensical Bible story. God created man and gave him choice, he didn't just stop there, he put the evil tree in man's face and made him decide. He was practically pushing man to fail.
Ur God knew man could possibly make two choices... And when man made the wrong choice he didn't regret putting the tree there, he actually regretted creating man.... What the f**k.
Now man is evil... In a world of scarce means, over population, individual difference, need to survive, survival of the fittest, how exactly do u and ur God want man to behave?
You condemn thieves to hell like they deserve it. I really don't think even Hitler deserve hell. Why? Almost everyman can give justification for their action.
You call Amaechi names and think he deserve hell? I bet you, you don't know how many people survive on Amaechi's excesses. You see him as hell bound some see him as their life line.

Your God remains hiding, and instead of waving a hand to make evil go away he is busy pouring fuel in hell... Justice my asssss.

I am glad for judgement day, becasue that is when we will put him on trail and send him to hell, do u wanna join him or repent?

LOL. Atleast I believe God exists and being a Just God, we shall all stand before him someday to answer for all we did here. If am found without the nature of Christ and that thrusts me into hellfire i won't blame God, for he has given all I need.
You on the other hand do not believe he exist. Frank317, make sure you pray very hard that indeed there's no God, because it there's SORRY.

You heap all these blames on a nonexistent God, yet you opened your mouth to say so many people are eating from Amaechi's excesses.
That, to you is a very good excuse for him and all the African leaders to steal that much money and go free.
Here you are casting aspersions on God, saying rubbish with the mouth he gave to you. You accuse him of doing nothing to stop evil, the same evil you support and approve of.
The cruelty of man against his fellow man, scarcity, over population and the wanton stealing by leaders to you is God's blame and even Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve hellfire.
Every of man's action is justifiable, none of their fault at all, it's all God's fault.

Am so glad you know there's Judgement day, where we shall all stand and justify our actions and cast the blames on God.
Frank if my God is hidden, He is hidden to you because you are lost. And because the god of this world(satan) has blinded your mind that you may not see and believe the glorious gospel of Christ and be saved. Carry on in your rebellious, proud and arrogant attitude. When you meet him, ask him why he didn't stop you from being arrogant and stupid.

Job 35:9
Because of the multitudes of oppressions the people cry out; they cry for help because of the violence of the mighty.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, the hearts of the sons of men are fully set to do evil.

But don't worry Frank, there's time for everything under the sun. We shall all stand before God someday soon. We shall, if you die before then, dont worry, you shall resurrect, for there's no escaping him.

Rev. 22:12.
Behold I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give to EVERY MAN according his works.






Come, Lord Jesus, Come.

analice107:

LOL. Atleast I believe God exists and being a Just God, we shall all stand before him someday to answer for all we did here. If am found without the nature of Christ and that thrusts me into hellfire i won't blame God, for he has given all I need.
You on the other hand do not believe he exist. Frank317, make sure you pray very hard that indeed there's no God, because it there's SORRY.

You heap all these blames on a nonexistent God, yet you opened your mouth to say so many people are eating from Amaechi's excesses.
That, to you is a very good excuse for him and all the African leaders to steal that much money and go free.
Here you are casting aspersions on God, saying rubbish with the mouth he gave to you. You accuse him of doing nothing to stop evil, the same evil you support and approve of.
The cruelty of man against his fellow man, scarcity, over population and the wanton stealing by leaders to you is God's blame and even Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve hellfire.
Every of man's action is justifiable, none of their fault at all, it's all God's fault.

Am so glad you know there's Judgement day, where we shall all stand and justify our actions and cast the blames on God.
Frank if my God is hidden, He is hidden to you because you are lost. And because the god of this world(satan) has blinded your mind that you may not see and believe the glorious gospel of Christ and be saved. Carry on in your rebellious, proud and arrogant attitude. When you meet him, ask him why he didn't stop you from being arrogant and stupid.

Job 35:9
Because of the multitudes of oppressions the people cry out; they cry for help because of the violence of the mighty.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, the hearts of the sons of men are fully set to do evil.

But don't worry Frank, there's time for everything under the sun. We shall all stand before God someday soon. We shall, if you die before then, dont worry, you shall resurrect, for there's no escaping him.

Rev. 22:12.
Behold I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give to EVERY MAN according his works.






Come, Lord Jesus, Come.

Lol...it's obvious you just cant wait for me to burn in hell.

If you don't know, if ur God exists, he is responsible for everything that happens on earth. He is responsible for creating a mean lady like u who can't wait to throw everyone to hell.

See u in hell.

frank317:


Lol...it's obvious you just cant wait for me to burn in hell.

If you don't know, if ur God exists, he is responsible for everything that happens on earth. He is responsible for creating a mean lady like u who can't wait to throw everyone to hell.

See u in hell.

Hahahahahahahaha. At least you agree there's a hell. Frank, I do not wish that any one end in hell. On the contrary, I want everyone saved. Am an intercessor. I spend considerable time praying for the lost. How can I then wish that you perish? What will I gain?

We are all victims here. We were not there, even Adam was not there when Yahweh and Lucifer had their issues, why should we be the tool for them to determine their superiority over each other?
Frank, I was like you once, very angry. I felt, at least, I should have been consented if i wanted to come into this world, and I should have been told what was involved, and allow me make my choice just like am allowed to make this choice right now of whether I want to go to heaven or hellfire.
My anger and question to God everyday was, why did you bring me here just to send me to hellfire? You knew that it's near to impossible to make heaven, how am I suppose to be good enough to make heaven? I just didn't know it was not dependant on my being righteous, it was just for me to accept the righteousness of Christ. All I needed to do was accept it, finish, but I didn't know that until some one who was patient enough explained it to me.
But you insult God and God's people. It's okay if you don't believe, but why the insult to God? Do you sometime pause to ponder? "WHAT IF GOD EXIST? " do you?

Frank I don't hate you, and I can't work to put you down. Putting others down doesn't lift me up, I know that quite well.
When you put someone down, to keep the person down, you have to stay down with him. When you stand up, is when he will stands up. I don't believe in putting people down.

Listen man, I may sound hash or appear Stern, that's because, you are not doing me any favour believing in Christ and taking up his nature which keeps you away from trouble. I am indeed doing you a favour. But that's not to say I hate you and want you dead. What will I gain?
It's well.

analice107:

Hahahahahahahaha. At least you agree there's a hell. Frank, I do not wish that any one end in hell. On the contrary, I want everyone saved. Am an intercessor. I spend considerable time praying for the lost. How can I then wish that you perish? What will I gain?

We are all victims here. We were not there, even Adam was not there when Yahweh and Lucifer had their issues, why should we be the tool for them to determine their superiority over each other?
Frank, I was like you once, very angry. I felt, at least, I should have been consented if i wanted to come into this world, and I should have been told what was involved, and allow me make my choice just like am allowed to make this choice right now of whether I want to go to heaven or hellfire.
My anger and question to God everyday was, why did you bring me here just to send me to hellfire? You knew that it's near to impossible to make heaven, how am I suppose to be good enough to make heaven? I just didn't know it was not dependant on my being righteous, it was just for me to accept the righteousness of Christ. All I needed to do was accept it, finish, but I didn't know that until some one who was patient enough explained it to me.
But you insult God and God's people. It's okay if you don't believe, but why the insult to God? Do you sometime pause to ponder? "WHAT IF GOD EXIST? " do you?

Frank I don't hate you, and I can't work to put you down. Putting others down doesn't lift me up, I know that quite well.
When you put someone down, to keep the person down, you have to stay down with him. When you stand up, is when he will stands up. I don't believe in putting people down.

Listen man, I may sound hash or appear Stern, that's because, you are not doing me any favour believing in Christ and taking up his nature which keeps you away from trouble. I am indeed doing you a favour. But that's not to say I hate you and want you dead. What will I gain?
It's well.

I agree that there is hell? U must be a joke.

Of course u need me to agree but sorry to disappoint u. Hell is only an imagination in your head!!!

If u are praying for people not to go to hell, I am sorry to give you this news.... As usual ur God does not answer prayer, millions are going there already... Ur prayer is meaningless.

Lol you actually think we are the victim? Unfortunately ur God does not think that way... He is busy adding more fuel to the fire for those who wouldn't love him back.

I am not angry...I am disappointed with people like u. Beside I think if ur God actually exists I wouldn't be capable of insulting him.so if u think I can insult ur God do u think I can spank him too? U see, when u talk like this u only prove that God is an imagination in ur head that's why I feel so free to insult it.

I don't hate u too, I really don't understand ur ranting about putting me down... Where is that coming from?

If u like sound harsh if u like sound gentle... No matter how u put it, the idea of hell is wicked and senseless. Since u know much about hell, can u tell me one single thing ur God intends to achieve with it?

frank317:


I agree that there is hell? U must be a joke.

Of course u need me to agree but sorry to disappoint u. Hell is only an imagination in your head!!!

If u are praying for people not to go to hell, I am sorry to give you this news.... As usual ur God does not answer prayer, millions are going there already... Ur prayer is meaningless.

Lol you actually think we are the victim? Unfortunately ur God does not think that way... He is busy adding more fuel to the fire for those who wouldn't love him back.

I am not angry...I am disappointed with people like u. Beside I think if ur God actually exists I wouldn't be capable of insulting him.so if u think I can insult ur God do u think I can spank him too? U see, when u talk like this u only prove that God is an imagination in ur head that's why I feel so free to insult it.

I don't hate u too, I really don't understand ur ranting about putting me down... Where is that coming from?

If u like sound harsh if u like sound gentle... No matter how u put it, the idea of hell is wicked and senseless. Since u know much about hell, can u tell me one single thing ur God intends to achieve with it?

I see. I do not wish to continue with this discussion. Have it your way.

analice107:

I see. I do not wish to continue with this discussion. Have it your way.

Who cares... Just stop parading hell like it's a loving thing. That's sick. If u actually have conscience and can think like a normal being who actually understands what love means, u will realize that it is a sick and heartless form of punishment. Not even the worst human on earth like Hitler or Amaechi deserve such cruelty for ever and ever and ever... A purposeless punishment from a sick God.

If u accept hell as justice you must be a complete psycho.

frank317:


Who cares... Just stop parading hell like it's a loving thing. That's sick. If u actually have conscience and can think like a normal being who actually understands what love means, u will realize that it is a sick and heartless form of punishment. Not even the worst human on earth like Hitler or Amaechi deserve such cruelty for ever and ever and ever... A purposeless punishment from a sick God.

If u accept hell as justice you must be a complete psycho.

OK Frank. We will fine out wen we die.

analice107:

OK Frank. We will fine out wen we die.

How can a dead man find out anything?

analice107:

Am an intercessor. I spend considerable time praying for the lost. How can I then wish that you perish? What will I gain?

Do intercessor people wear red caps? Hahaha.

analice107:

OK Frank. We will fine out wen we die.

Dead people don't find out nothing, only the living do.

You need to stop just existing girl and start living.

frank317:


Dead people don't find out nothing, only the living do.

You need to stop just existing girl and start living.

Hahahahahahahaha. Frank, that's opposite. I should be the one telling you that.
You exist in the flesh, you live in the spirit. Am alive, becos my spirit lives, but you are dead, you merely exist.
Oh My God, Frank.

Weah96:

Do intercessor people wear red caps? Hahaha.

Mr Were. What are you talking about?

davien:
How can a dead man find out anything?

Like I said, we will fine out.

analice107:

Mr Were. What are you talking about?

You called yourself an intercessor between humans and the ultra intelligence which created us. I was asking if the position required a dress code, like wearing a red cap or gown.

Weah96:


You called yourself an intercessor between humans and the ultra intelligence which created us. I was asking if the position required a dress code, like wearing a red cap or gown.

What position Weah96?

analice107:

Like I said, we will fine out.

Saying and/or believing something isn't going to make it true..
Especially paradoxes like a dead person knowing something.

Do dead people also go to have haircuts?

davien:
Saying and/or believing something isn't going to make it true..
Especially paradoxes like a dead person knowing something.

Do dead people also go to have haircuts?

Hahahahahahahaha. We have been shouting that for as long as it has been. You, Saying God doesn't exists or hellfire doesn't exist doesn't make it true.
The Biblical prophecies have been fulfilled and are being fulfilled in our very eyes. You, for one are a fulfillment of the prophecies, and yet you shout there's no God, will your shout make God to really not exists? Imaooo

analice107:

Hahahahahahahaha. We have been shouting that for as long as it has been. You, Saying God doesn't exists or hellfire doesn't exist doesn't make it true.
The Biblical prophecies have been fulfilled and are being fulfilled in our very eyes. You, for one are a fulfillment of the prophecies, and yet you shout there's no God, will your shout make God to really not exists? Imaooo

wow@bolded, It's funny how you quickly played the "you too" card.

But the difference here is clear, I don't just regurgitate statements blindly like "god/hell exists because x Bible passage which I believe to be true about hell/god says so"..

Concepts like hell/or the christian abrahamic god aren't possible because they have internal logical inconsistencies which can't allow them to be possible beings in reality.

Your statement is based purely on belief in biblical interpretation(which differs among every believer) and mine is based on logical precepts and facts(which are considered objectively true without need of interpretation)