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Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by legacysystems2(f): 7:09pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
On 3 September 2013, Russia shot down two US ballistic missiles that were heading towards the Syrian coast, allegedly 'in the direction of Damascus'. The missiles were reportedly fired from Spain, or, from the central part of the Mediterranean. "The launches were detected by the ballistic missile early warning system in Armavir in southern Russia, the defence ministry said in a statement quoted by Russian news agencies." "The trajectory of these objects goes from the central part of the Mediterranean Sea toward the eastern part of the Mediterranean coast," Interfax news agency quoted a Russian spokesman as saying. Reportedly, Russia shot down the missiles. Then Russia went on war alert and sent a stiff warning to US intelligence. The Head of the Russian Intelligence Service contacted US intelligence and informed it that: "Hitting Damascus means hitting Moscow... "We have removed the term 'downed the two missiles' from our statement to preserve the bilateral relations and to avoid escalation. "Therefore, you must immediately reconsider your policies, approaches and intentions on the Syrian crisis, as you must be certain that you cannot eliminate our presence in the Mediterranean."... "This unannounced direct confrontation between Moscow and Washington increased the Obama Administration's ... certainty that the Russian side was determined to support Syria, and that the US did not have a way out of its impasse except through a Russian initiative which would save America’s face…" he added If accurate, yes, this is huge. Why a ballistic missile strike? But also, where was the intercept made? It seems it would be upon re-entry on the down side of the parabolic path, but, then, again, the description sounds as if it was towards the initial launch point. But, then, again, the intercept was reported to be in the East Mediterranean of the coast of Syria. Interception of a ballistic missile is a "big deal" in terms of technological ability. Much, much, harder than a cruise missile or even a fighter jet. All public reports refer to interception of ballistic missiles at the early post launch stage (the clime on the parabolic flight path). Russia has technology the U. S. public is not aware of ? ...Could this have been a 'head shot' in an attempt to take out Assad? A well informed diplomatic source told As-Safir newspaper that “the US war on Syria had started and ended the moment those two ballistic missiles were fired, leaving inconsistent information, as Israel denied and Russia confirmed, until an Israeli statement was issued indicating they were fired in the context of an Israeli-US joint drill and fell in the sea, and that they were not related to the Syrian crisis.” The source further told the Lebanese daily that “the US forces fired these two rockets from a NATO base in Spain, and were instantly detected by the Russian radars and confronted by the Russian defense systems, so one of them exploded in the airspace and the second one diverted towards the sea.” http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetai...id=71&s1=1 |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by princemmab(m): 7:17pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
3rd September. Old gist |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Toktee(m): 9:34pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Liar,it was isreal that test a balistic misile that was detected by the russians. If americans want to hit damascus,they will and russian cannot stand in their way,cos american has allied in the middle east rusia dnt,they only have iran,hezbollah in lebanon and syria,get that straight and grow up. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Nobody: 10:14pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
HUGE LIE. Israel tested their arrow 3 missile interceptor by shooting an ABM with joint American exercise. it was days after the test that Russia got to know and became worried. Russia cant intercept any of America's missile once its released into Syria. Huge lie. get your facts or study more on world military and defence. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by pandriod: 9:14am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Toktee: Liar,it was isreal that test a balistic misile that was detected by the russians. Oh shut up! Just 12 pieces of S-300 can protect Damascus from ANY attack from anyone. We are not even talking about the most sophisticated missile defence system. Your US can't and won't be able to attack Damascus until the Russians says so. Stop getting excited and go read. But you clearly believed what the Israelis said about testing some missiles right? 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by pandriod: 9:24am On Sep 25, 2013 |
kopite: HUGE LIE. Israel tested their arrow 3 missile interceptor by shooting an ABM with joint American exercise. it was days after the test that Russia got to know and became worried. Russia cant intercept any of America's missile once its released into Syria. Huge lie. get your facts or study more on world military and defence. Another ignorant toad writing rubbish. Your almighty US can't attack Syria. Syria is beyond them, cos the big boys are around. By the way, which American missile can escape s-400? I take you think your little Israel can match Russia? Why was the Israelis begging Russia not to deliver S -300, which is even an old technology to the Iranians? Stop exposing your stupidity here, even the Americans are not crazy enough to against S -400. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Dibiachukwu: 9:47am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Story story, Story. Once upon a time. Time time |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Psylas(m): 11:53am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Ifochakpii wooO!(Warrr) |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Sukosam(m): 7:21pm On Sep 25, 2013 |
Toktee: Liar,it was isreal that test a balistic misile that was detected by the russians.i don't know but can u make sense out of what you have posted? |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 6:51pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
Toktee: Can you say the same thing now ?? I think it's time to eat your words. Where are those allies now ? So Russia actually shot those missiles down ? I don't know how i stumbled on this old post.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 7:51pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
pandriod:Did you just say S-400 lol? One thing I notice on this section is that " Most of us only know that David killed Goliath but nobody is ready to know how David killed Goliath. and that's why we do come here and start squeezing fallacies out of fallacy. TAKE NOTE: S-400 alone cannot defend itself against some low orbiting/flying missiles like JDAM (Joint Direct munition).In fact Thousands of S-400s can never provide airspace defence alone. A good air defence must be layered and integrated. Staging S-400 SAM against GBU-31 is like running on broken bottles without boot on the legs. Few people will understand what I mean by that. No offence my brother. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 11:15pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
mazeltov: even by your david and Goliath c0ck and bull story. who is the david here and who is the Goliath .. if we are to go by the junk written in the zionist propaganda or the bull story. the david is russia here while the big for nothing, selling lies all the tme that we are big we are big (anglozionist empire).. is Goliath here.. and you will just watch how the bull story will come to reality. it has happened in past several times and it will happen again. plus s-400 can defend itself and if at all your junk adam or eve or whatever JDAM means tries anything, you have a never sleeping pastir monster to shoot it down. what do you even know self ? anywhereyou see s-400 or s-300 either on mobile or stationed static, you will find panstir close to it as backup.. now you have about 6 tier air defence systems.. starting from buk missiles, panstir s2, s-300, s-400,s-500 and jammers... you think this is joke.. yes, russia shut down two missiles back in 2013 and it stopped the war then. i was even watching how cnn was propagating how u.s will use cruise missile to destroy syria.. it was shut down. two was shut down by russia. and another 3were shut down in ukraine recently. https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Ukrainian_Ballistic_Missiles_Shot_Down_by_Russian_Missile_Defence_System see pastir demon here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwA6cEJYdo this one is even 1.. the veesion s2 is deadlier.. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 6:20pm On May 01, 2016 |
scully95:Using two Nairaland accnts to comment cannot stop your from flaunting your madness. In fact your dumbness is second to none on this forum. I said many people know that Goliath was killed by David but nobody is ready to know how David killed Goliath. I believe that wording/statement is beyond your comprehension due to an integrated layer of your foolery. Sit your ass down and Re-peruse my statement carefully before you reply 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 6:21pm On May 01, 2016 |
mazeltov: ode, where is the second one ? ha this is what you do.. nice one let me even open like 10 now. (chai i will need to sign this one out cos it shows i have been online for more than 11 months.. how many days have you been online ... now this shows who is using many accounts.. chai i need like ten seperate systems. thanks for teaching me what you do. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 6:25pm On May 01, 2016 |
scully95:Re nsi!! look at this Russian pig that want to deflect ICBM to Germany . 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 6:35pm On May 01, 2016 |
mazeltov: stop living in the past. you are stuck in the soviet days. i am in the future... again all the icbm will be shut down via a shield. it's known as bubble. a bubble of jermers will decieve it. this is not the first time Russia is shooting down balistic missiles. in fact it is not new thing.. Many people wont undertand how it works. Besides all those speed propaganda is just what it is. Pure propaganda to make opponent fear. it does not work with me. I don't know about others.. 2/3 balistic missiles was shut down in Ukraine. Torcka U. It is the same concept that shut this one down bellow will be re-used to shoot any further ones down. See the video bellow.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vujHovnWViA Now show me video of your 1 million speed of sound trident,minuteman or junk per second man. Eating 3 square meals propaganda. Show me the Speed of the minute man .. Even with it being 23 mach it will be shut down via multiple layer jammers. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 6:45pm On May 01, 2016 |
what is the difference between ballistic missiles and ICBMs scully95:When i called you a russian pig, honestly i thought i made a mistake. show me how Russia want to jam ICBM and its warheads 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 6:56pm On May 01, 2016 |
mazeltov: omg.. i just even saw your question "what is the difference between ballistic missiles and ICBMs".. Chai and i went ahead lecturing this olodo. Your question is foolish because you can't ask the difference between ballistic missiles and ICBMs, both are balistic missiles just that it has longer and lesser range.. ballistic missiles and ICBMs are the same because the "B" in the IC"B"Ms means ballistic and M is missile.. YOu have short range, medium and long range balistic missiles. You see that you are olodo of the 21st century. you can only ask what is the difference between guided and non guided balistic missile.. you see you are too lowlife. Pls go back to primary school, learn something. you are too lowlife for me to be argueing with.. by any standard, Tochka U is a balistic missile.. and it was shut down. how much will you pay me to giveyou the idea cos you are washington troll, a boko haram recruiter and i would never share any idea again with you cos you are too backward. you may even sell the idea self. i have shown you video of a balistic missile being shut down... Show me video of yours nah. You can't just be typing crap in 21st century and expect anyone to believe you. Show something. Let me see the video of that trident or minuteman speed orhave they built per second man ? "Osi o da nile pako." again it will be shut down. let me just give you a quick lecture. let me give you difference between a balistic missile and a cruise missile. both of them are balistic just than one is guided and the other one is not guided. There are ways to guide a missile to the target. a balistic missile goes into the air and returns to the area of destination while a cruise missile may travel and makes several turns/bends to be delivered to its target. A cruise or guided balistic missile is more accurate than non guided Balistic missile because here you have it being guided to the target. And by the way, Shooting down a balistic missile is not new thing. Any balistic missile can be shut down and it does not matter what speed. it's now about turning off what is working with it, what is pushing it, or the vehicle carrying it or even the Boost-glide. See update from what was shut down by Russia in South east of Ukraine bellow.. Document:Ukrainian Ballistic Missiles Shot Down by Russian Missile Defence System Evidence and argument that Ukraine army ballistic missiles launched against the Donbas have been shot down by Russian missile defense systems and that the launches are in reality a US directed ploy to test the effectiveness of the Russian systems. There have been multiple reports of multiple SS ballistic missile launches against NAF-held areas of Eastern Ukraine since mid-July 2014. [1] [2] At least two such reports were accompanied by pictures of massive craters where the missile warheads were said to have detonated. [3] However, others have shown pictures of missile parts and even recognisable, near intact missiles. [4] The claim of this article is that the launching of these missiles - which in every case has been more or less towards the Russian border and close enough to make calculation of its target ambiguous and thus possibly well inside Russia itself - is a carefully calculated exercise, supervised by the US, to gather evidence about the capabilities and effectiveness of Russia's missile defense systems. Wikispooks cannot vouch for the nature of the ultimate source of the article but, for sure, given the nature of the civil war in Ukraine, with the Junta military under the clear and obvious direction of the US with its vast number of US specialists ensconced in Kiev, it is the most plausible explanation of the deployment of these missiles and another indication - if any were needed - of the relentless aggressiveness of Anglo-US-NATO pressure on Russia. Ukrainian Ballistic Missiles were Shot Down by the Russian Missile Defence System The confusing story around the launching of ballistic missiles, most likely “Scarab B” (Tochka U) type, by the Ukrainian military is not as simple and innocent as it looks at first glance. In fact, it appears that the US has just tested the preparedness of the Russian Missile Defence System for real combat in regions adjacent to Donetsk and Lugansk. Ballistic missiles are the most powerful weapon that the Ukrainian military has at its disposal, and also the most powerful weapon that has ever been used in modern armed conflicts. It is important to note that these missiles are capable of carrying nuclear warheads, and the Ukrainians, or rather the US military who are, in fact, in charge of the operation in Eastern Ukraine, knew exactly what they were doing. There were reports of three separate launches of “Scarab B” missiles. Interestingly enough, mass media did not report any consequences on the ground that should’ve resulted from strikes by this powerful weapon. The explanation is simple – none of the missiles reached their targets and were destroyed in the air by missile defence systems. Another evidence supporting this is a large fragment of the missile (warhead just under 180 cm in size) found on the ground by militiamen. The missile fell apart in mid-air. If the missile had reached its target, no fragments of that size would be left, and the warhead would’ve definitely been destroyed. Militia does not have Missile Defence systems, which means that the missile must have been shot down by the Russian forces. Especially considering the proximity of the area to the Russian border. The question of what was used to shoot these missiles out of the sky remains unanswered, and, most likely, will never be answered (classified information). "Tochka U" (Scarab B" missile system deployed for launch Another interesting fact is that it was the US news agency CNN that first aired the story about the “Scarab B” launches. Their report was based on information received directly from the Pentagon, which implies that the main intended recipient of the information was Russia. The US quickly assured everyone that the targets of the strikes were military installations of the militia (and not anything on Russian territory, God forbid), and later the Western media downplayed the information. The US Secretary of State John Kerry issued a statement calling for an immediate stop to all armed hostilities in Eastern Ukraine. The most likely reason for this diplomatic turnaround was a conversation between Lavrov and Kerry that took place almost immediately after the information about missile launches became public. The conversation was initiated by the US side and, interestingly enough, it took several attempts to get the Russian Foreign Affairs minister to agree to hold the talks. During the conversation, Lavrov took the opportunity to issue a number of demands. Currently both sides are sidestepping the topic. On one side it is alarming to learn that the US hawks are testing the Russian air defences, but on the other it is a relief to see that Russia has a reliable Missile Defence System. Categories: DocumentsArticles 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by ladkud(m): 10:39pm On May 01, 2016 |
mazeltov: I think this has given evidence to back his claims. bring your own too let see. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 6:50pm On May 02, 2016 |
scully95:Valeriansteel, come and see this idiot hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha can't stop laughing 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by ValerianSteel(m): 8:21pm On May 02, 2016 |
mazeltov:Oh I see what is happening here. Scully95 is talking grammar while Mazeltov is talking military. Scully is right,the 'B' in ICBM does mean Ballistic.Mazeltov is also right,Ballistic missile and ICBM(Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) are different. Ballistic Missiles are short range missiles.Ballistic missile trajectory remain within earth's atmosphere and are largely unguided missiles meaning they have a preset target while ICBMs are sub-orbital guided ballistic missiles,their trajectory remains outside earth's atmosphere for about 98% of it's flight time.ICBMs are primarily designed to carry nuclear warheads. I hope that clears up the argument. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by ValerianSteel(m): 8:23pm On May 02, 2016 |
BTW,So this is where Scully got the false information of Russia shooting down a US cruise missile in 2013. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by mazeltov(m): 8:41pm On May 02, 2016 |
ValerianSteel:No argument here bro, I asked: what is the diff between ballistic missiles and ICBMs and he said "ballistic missiles and ICBMs are the same because the "B" in the IC"B"Ms means ballistic and M is missile." Abeg are Ballistic missiles not missiles? I pushed up the question in order to unfurl his ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by ValerianSteel(m): 8:44pm On May 02, 2016 |
mazeltov:He might have been trolling you as he usually does 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 10:07pm On May 02, 2016 |
mazeltov: you are too lowlife for me again.. icbm means... Intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) - and you idiot olodo ask what is the difference between ballistic missile and Intercontinental ballistic missile ? are you daft ? does that make any sense to you.. Intercontinental ballistic missile is under long range ballistic(usually anything between 1000km-12,000km range) missile and mostly are guided because of the distance and it's the reason if you shoot one of russia's satan armed with nuclear weapon to new york for example, it will destroy the target. Rumour had it that it can even be guided to hit obama's room, passing through his window.. asumming it's not armed with nuks or warhead. Again you have a very low IQ.. .. Islander M missiles is a Balistic missile but a short range ballistic missile here.. NATO terrorist reporting name SS-Stone is a mobile short-range ballistic missile 400KM range. It is equiped with one stage guided missiles (model 9M723K1).. you are a foolish olodo again. You should go back to primary one. You know nothing and you should stop saying a word when it comes to military machines. Example of unguided ballistic missile is 9K52 Luna-M, sometimes they classify it as "Rockets". Again, there is a cruise missile, which is usually aerodynamically guided in flight. Long range ICBM are fired at a sub-orbital flight trajectory & it spend most of it flight out of the atmosphere here. Shorter range ballistic missiles stay within the Earth's atmosphere. Again your question is foolish.. And I have just confirmed it for you. Again there are guided and non-guided ballistic missiles. You see now that you are the olodo. Your foolish question could make more sense if you had ask what is the difference between "short range ballistic missile (SRBM) ) and icbm.. ok You see now that you need to go back to Primary one. Olodo rabata, oju eja lomo je, o ni mo iwe mo.. Oloshi kilo gba ? odo oloju eja... hahahaha 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Toktee(m): 1:06pm On May 24, 2016 |
scully95:I never said the mi ysile was shotdown,I said it was detected bypassing the Russian in the Mediterranean,I still maintain my stand,russians are fooling themselves in the middle east. . 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 11:40pm On May 24, 2016 |
Toktee: See what you wrote bellow in 2013.. Have you swallowed your words now ? Empty vessel Anglozionist empire is being exposed everyday. it was first exposed in 2006 and so many times. Eat your words now. Damascus is still under Assad and under control. Just Raqqa left. By the way Aleppo is surrounded. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Toktee(m): 8:44am On May 26, 2016 |
scully95:Damacus is still under Assad,is he the president of Damascus? Guy pls,dock this blind argument,as you said,he will remained Damascus as long as possible,btw,what kind of being are you supporting the Russians who are behind the instability in Ukraine,bombing innocent women And children in syria just to satisfy assad and people like you,and if putin is supporting the separatist in the eastern Ukraine,why then is he bombing those against assad? What is the difference between the is as clear as swan water,the separatist what to break away from the central gvt while the syrian want assad to,who should be bombed and who is to be arm? Be honest. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by cyprus000: 9:19am On May 26, 2016 |
Toktee:[size=13pt] At the embolded; who should he support? The west that armed blood sucking jihadist to oust a single man at the expense of millions of Syrian life, or Russia that had to intervene when the grand plan of systematic ethnic and religious cleansing was about to hold sway? throw more light, cos I want to ascertain how to go about emancipating you from zombism. [/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by Toktee(m): 9:28am On May 26, 2016 |
cyprus000:I pray that God should forgive you for calling me zombie,for iam a perfecy image of God. And I dnt talk to people that go about insulting people on internet. |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by cyprus000: 9:49am On May 26, 2016 |
Toktee:[size=13pt] Lol..hahahaha [img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvB7YZQbrdXwdfgHPFSy1-KWwSLwIso_SjlsObVz5Tne_JUUIwKDoVYLI[/img] Character dey Iswear..hehehehe damn! You're too funny. See as you jump start summon God for matter wey no consin am. When you dey support systematic killing of innocent children,women and men, you no remember God that time Abi. You think say ignorance na excuse shay? You nova see anything. BTW, who insult you, Me Abi na anoda person? cos as far as I'm concerned. I only described you. Oya enjoy hand work of people wey you dey support. [/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia Shot Down Two US Ballistic Missiles Heading Towards The Syria by scully95: 11:25am On May 26, 2016 |
Toktee: You must obviously be out of touch and far from reality due to western constant propaganda. I know the old story, i have seen the picture , it's written all over your face. Well, i use to be like you until i finally got out of the brainwashed system and i am happy what woke me up was western massive lie about Bin laden. I see you are still stuck in western media lies. Well, even Sanders called them Western media Establishment to always fit in their own narrative. How I wish Nigeria could invest massively in investigative media journalism worldwide and not have to copy and paste each time from these Media crooks, western main stream media mind controlling propaganda network of Zionists controlled regime. That being said, Russia did not start Maidan in Kiev. Maidan in Kiev was a coup detar by the U.S and its puppets in he region this was confirmed by Nuland saying fck the EU. If you have not been following it then I think you should not even be saying a word on this foreign issues. I have followed it from day one to the night of an agreement being reached the maidan crooks for President Janokowich to bow down to all the Maidan neonazis crooks pressure or agreements. That is to release Yulia timoshenko (a permanenet foreign puppet that was jailed), to do an early election. After Yanokowich removed his prime minister. I think the mistake he made was being too human but trust me the people he was dealing with were not Human. And that has caused Crimean peninsular to quickly seek refuge from the Neonazis government in Kiev. The same way DOnbass and Lugansk is fighting for an Autonomous republic. If you can just apply the use of common sense. You can as well say, there was a regime change in Ukraine and Ukraine may never be the same again. Same goes to Syria. There won't be a regime change and all things being. If there was no regime change in Ukraine, again all things being equal. Please stop being a permanent zombie of the western media lies. Same goes in Syria, you want a regime change, the anglozionist empire wants a regime change there. For how long ? if I were Syria, I would surely be running to Russia and China.. Same happened during our civil war too when the same crooks (Israel, France and the leader of the anglozionist empire U.S) sided with Biafra. We ran to Soviet Union and they helped. Now that is known as balancing of power because a total power corrupts totally. I will stop here. 1 Like 2 Shares |
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