holamiday:
Comments like this make you appear weak & helpless. Telling us your precious faith in God is still intact after going through the thread, makes me feel the opposite is actually the case

Tell us what we don't know, address the many valid questions & assertions the op has asked or made or remain silent & leave.

Well, i'm not an atheist, but i don't run away from valid questions about God, either.

ValentineMary:
Nice work here bro really love ur work and logic.

urahara:
Joseph 1013 awesome thread . u ve got awesome wits . keep up the good work .

This will last the weekend. Thanks

joseph1013:
[b]WHEN BASHING PASTOR MBORO IS HYPOCRITICAL

Some weeks ago, one South African pastor, pastor Mboro, claimed he went to heaven and snapped some pictures with his phone. Everybody laughed at him. Religious and irreligious people all laughed and mocked his stupidity.

What I found funny wasn't the story, but the irony of the whole situation. The story of traveling to heaven to snap pictures might sound ridiculous, but no more so the story of a virgin impregnated by a spirit or the story of talking snakes and donkeys.

The biblical Prophet Isaiah claimed he was teleported to heaven where he saw God and other heavenly beings. He didn't even bother to provide any pictorial evidence, yet you believed. Moses made a similar claim. A lot of stories, much more weird and ridiculous than what the S.A pastor claimed, are in the Bible, yet you believed them.

And you think you are wiser than Pastor Mboro's followers? Today is Sunday, many would be inundated with false, incredulous stories by their pastors. Kettle calling pot black.

Honestly, it's easier to believe the crazy man's story than the biblical stories. If not that his phone was incidentally stolen, he could have shown us some "heavenly selfies" as evidence.

Damn those thieves!!![/b]

ANSWER FROM Kob Svenson

We got a really badly designed repro system compared to most animals, so it would be a pleasure to give it a long-overdue upgrade. Here are my top ten design priorities:

- Delay fertility for both sexes until the brain is fully mature; e.g., 24.

- As Dr. Heguy said, let's make it so that it requires an act of volition on both sides before conception can occur.

- While we're at it, as Andrea Digney suggested, let's make forcing an unaroused and unwilling female physically impossible. Vaginismus, or something like it, should be the default condition unless she is conscious and aroused. It should work physiologically so that can she only respond to the arousing stimuli and unclench the muscles -- or whatever it is that unlocks and opens the door -- if she is conscious and not fearful.

- As Barbie Giri suggested, get rid of the hemochorial placenta and eliminate menstruation. Give humans back the same placental system most mammals have. The one we've got is the result of a vicious conflict of interest between mothers, fetuses, and fathers in which no one wins and women lose badly. [Read this: Suzanne Sadedin's answer to What is the evolutionary benefit or purpose of having periods?]

- The long male organ is not a great design. It uses some really tricky biochmistry and hydraulics to fill a balloon with blood to create a rigid member. As a result, it's notoriously unreliable. It frequently activates when it isn't needed or wanted, and fails precisely when it's needed and wanted the most. So let's start by putting a bone in the penis, using voluntary muscle contractions to cause erections, and rewiring the whole male arousal system to be more conservative on both activation and deactivation.

- External testicles? WHY? Eggs manage just fine at core body temp, sperm could be re-engineered to do the same.

- Get rid of the refractory period. Why should sex have to stop if the guy comes first?

- While we're at it, let's make it easier to separate orgasms from ejaculation. Guys should be able to have multiple orgasms too!

- FFS, relocate the clitoris (or its equivalent) where it will always get stimulated during "normal" sex!

- Finally, and most important, relocate the vaginal canal to an opening above the pubic bone. Putting the vaginal opening just an inch from the anus is DUMB. And forcing a big-headed baby through a small, hard hole in the pelvis is a crazy way to design a system. It requires a woman's hip ligaments to loosen well in advance of childbirth -- SO much fun when you're already maximally awkward! Then it forces the baby to twist and turn just right as it is squeezed through the birth canal. This makes childbirth agonizing for women (unlike nearly all mammals). And it kills many women and babies!

I sometimes think that creationists all secretly believe that God is either a slowpoke or a misanthrope. No one with any intelligence would design a system this screwed up unless He really hated humans!

(Just like He obviously hated hyenas, who are as screwed up as we are.)

"Secular humanism"
The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism (alternatively known by some adherents as Humanism , specifically with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism ) embraces human reason, ethics, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism , pseudoscience , and superstition as the bases of morality and decision making."
(Wikipedia)

stephenmorris:
shollyps i sight you o,(from intelligence)

joseph1013:

While Many theists are also religious and therefore derive their morality (so they claim) from their specific religions, most atheists derive their morality from a simple Naturalist worldview termed SECULAR HUMANISM

PastorAIO:


I want to challenge and disagree with you on this point. I feel that just as theists claim to derive their morality from their religions, so do some atheists claim to derive their morality from a Naturalist worldview.

In actual fact Morality is sourced from a more visceral impulse. It is an instinct. Ideologies may be used later to explain morality (after the fact), but in fact the process of arriving at a moral standpoint is more subtle and subconscious then deliberating over ideology.

That is why christians can see something evil in the bible and recognise that it is evil and then seek to make up excuses from it. If their sense of morality really was derived from the bible then they would feel no need to explain away why the bible is at odds with their sense of morality.

The same goes from secular humanism. Atheist Morality, even for those who claim to be secular humanists, won't always tally with Secular humanist ideology.

ramonchang:
hi Joseph...I am a great fan of this thread,I av been following it for quite some time and i noticed that MOST of your observations are directed to xtianity... not islam
i want to know do you fear muslims(i do) because they might be aggressive or you donot know much or Islam as they claim is "flawless"....

note: i am in no way into religion i am just curious as to why u do not
observe thins in islam as do in xtianity

joseph1013:


That is true. Most of my specific observations are targeted at Christians. The reason is because I was once a Christian...scratch that...I was once a Pastor. Therefore I have a better-than-most knowledge about Christianity. So I don't think I deliberately don't talk about Islam because of fear of physical aggression. To add to that, I am more in contact with Christians than Muslims, it is therefore no surprises that most of my thoughts and questions are about what I observe around me.

However, when I talk about Yahweh, it covers Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Yahweh is their god.

Personally, I find Islam more ridiculous than Christianity in a lot of ways. Jesus was more humane, Mohammed was a disaster. Dude was a pedophile ffs. Absolutely disgusting.

vickyonyi:

Hello everyone. Am an Atheist seeking to know fellow Atheist in Lagos. I feel am alone want to know if indeed am not crazy.

stephenmorris:
you too much joseph1013 in fact send me your fb name sef make i add you

vickyonyi:

Hello everyone. Am an Atheist seeking to know fellow Atheist in Lagos. I feel am alone want to know if indeed am not crazy.

The religiously unaffiliated, called "nones," are growing significantly. They’re the second largest religious group in North America and most of Europe. In the United States, nones make up almost a quarter of the population. In the past decade, U.S. nones have overtaken Catholics, mainline protestants, and all followers of non-Christian faiths.

There have long been predictions that religion would fade from relevancy as the world modernizes, but all the recent surveys are finding that it’s happening startlingly fast. France will have a majority secular population soon. So will the Netherlands and New Zealand. The United Kingdom and Australia will soon lose Christian majorities. Religion is rapidly becoming less important than it’s ever been, even to people who live in countries where faith has affected everything from rulers to borders to architecture.

Source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160422-atheism-agnostic-secular-nones-rising-religion/

Shollyps:
intelligence boss...I hail o...I never comment on this thread before... just observing things....lol....nice one...pastor Joseph... I always enjoy your post

joseph1013:
Pastor...LOL

That awkward moment when one of those you led to Christ on Campus shout your name on the streets of Lagos and introduce you to his wife as one of the best Preachers he's ever come across and you are instantly tongue-tied.

The struggle for the souls of men used to be so real mehn. LMAO

PS: Appreciate the shout-out, bro.

Ruq:
Now this is how you go about enlightening. Very good thread bruv.

joseph1013:
[b]YOU DON'T SEE AIR YET YOU DON'T DOUBT IT...

So I got a PM yesterday and this fellow sought to know how I can be so foolish to not believe in the existence of God. He said to me, "That I can't see air doesn't in any way void its existence.... Trying to understand God before believing his existences will fry your brain....so these guys only retire to their belief as they find it impossible to comprehend God."




I promised to answer him in a comment on this thread and here it is:

You can't "SEE" air, but you can observe it. There are many many tests to observe air. Scientists have observed air so well, they even know it's make-up.

Evidence doesn't mean "SEE". It means "SENSE" by any means replicable: human senses or even with the help of technology.

Now no one alive and healthy today has ever SENSED God in a universally replicable manner.

For there to be a goat in a well, it's not enough for Olamide alone to see/hear it. He should also be able to demonstrate to Chidinma by telling him what steps he took to sense the goat, so that Chindinma can sense it himself and also show Audu.

If you are the only one who can sense the presence of this goat, then it's most likely all in your head (hallucination).

If you believe something so so so much and you managed to convince yourself it's there, guess what, your brain starts to see it in everything. But, my friend, it's still all in your head (delusion).

What religion has managed to do is get a whole lot of people deluded. They start seeing god in everything - they woke up today (must be god). Almost got hit by a car (God saved). Passed exam (God blessed). Didn't pass exam (God testing)... This is mass delusion my brother.

I know this has fallen on deaf ears, but I had to try.[/b]

joseph1013:
[b]YOU DON'T SEE AIR YET YOU DON'T DOUBT IT...

So I got a PM yesterday and this fellow sought to know how I can be so foolish to not believe in the existence of God. He said to me, "That I can't see air doesn't in any way void its existence.... Trying to understand God before believing his existences will fry your brain....so these guys only retire to their belief as they find it impossible to comprehend God."

I promised to answer him in a comment on this thread and here it is:

You can't "SEE" air, but you can observe it. There are many many tests to observe air. Scientists have observed air so well, they even know its make-up.

Evidence doesn't mean "SEE". It means "SENSE" by any means replicable: human senses or even with the help of technology.

Now no one alive and healthy today has ever SENSED God in a universally replicable manner.

For there to be a goat in a well, it's not enough for Olamide alone to see/hear it. He should also be able to demonstrate to Chidinma by telling him what steps he took to sense the goat, so that Chindinma can sense it himself and also show Audu.

If you are the only one who can sense the presence of this goat, then it's most likely all in your head (hallucination).

If you believe something so so so much and you managed to convince yourself it's there, guess what, your brain starts to see it in everything. But, my friend, it's still all in your head (delusion).

What religion has managed to do is get a whole lot of people deluded. They start seeing god in everything - they woke up today (must be god). Almost got hit by a car (God saved). Passed exam (God blessed). Didn't pass exam (God testing)... This is mass delusion my brother.

I know this has fallen on deaf ears, but I had to try.[/b]