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Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Nobody: 10:23am On May 12, 2016
*in fela's voice * suffering and smiling till 2019,enjoy the chains,sorry change you voted for,there is the scam,the scammer and the scammee
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by nairalandbuzz(m): 10:26am On May 12, 2016
that was 2011 and many things ve changed while many things also ve been brought to light...

BUHARI is your president and you people should just go and die...

Total deregulation of the oil sector is the best as he is doing...

Now NNPC can sell for 86.50k while total sells for 90 and Olorimagbo Oils sells for 140 all na oil...

Buy anywhere you want... if you have traveled well, you will know that is whats being done everywhere...

When GLO came in with their model of free sim and per seconds billing... didnt others follow suit or are we not enjoying it today>

Nigerians are intuitive and i am sure the marketers will look for ways to make more money by importing it via cheaper means so they could sell it cheaper to their filling stations and get many queues... And better still, they will make sure that our refineries work,.,

get used to it...

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Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Nobody: 10:27am On May 12, 2016
VictorRomanov:



The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What was their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is to wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!
Am sick and tired of hearing this comparison. Many Nigerians could do without a cell phone then, same can't be said about petrol. Just swallow your pride and admit y'all went back to your vomit simple!
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Kbs468(m): 10:28am On May 12, 2016
JoeBlocks:
Its now obvious that whoever will lead Nigeria out of this nonsense she finds herself, its not the present crop of politicians.

Well, God might be speaking through you though but please kindly edit the respect-less remarks towards our elders for God's blessings to be upon us and our prayers because I always suggest that everything from us should be full of love which means the absence of hatred no matter how provoked we are.

God bless us all Brother.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by VictorRomanov: 10:32am On May 12, 2016
Almakura:
Am sick and tired of hearing this comparison. Many Nigerians could do without a cell phone then, same can't be said about petrol. Just swallow your pride and admit y'all went back to your vomit simple!



I think you should read my post again. This time do it slowly and to the end. Rushing to comment without reading the entire post makes you look silly!
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by diagro: 10:33am On May 12, 2016
Ijaya123:

Was APC in existence in 2012?
Reason with your head, that is what it is meant for.
You are d one that need to reason with ur head. APC is just a name. If u truly don't know the elements that constitute today's APC has been there all along, u need to ask for the refund of all ur school fees.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Ijaya123: 10:36am On May 12, 2016
diagro:
You are d one that need to reason with ur head. APC is just a name. If u truly don't know the elements that constitute today's APC has been there all along, u need to ask for the refund of all ur school fees.

Now I know where you belong. One of those still struggling with election loss hangover.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Image123(m): 10:40am On May 12, 2016
Goke7:


there is no opposition in Nigeria but those who have chosen not get over with the loss of GEJ, I understand their pain, they had never been in opposition from their political history, they are like fish taken out of its natural environment [water] and keep struggling to come to terms with its new environment.

Let them wail on, FG is broke, almost 30 states can't pay salaries, yet they want subsidy to remain. The same subsidy they supported their beloved GEJ to remove way back.

We do need quality opposition, as that is what develops a good democracy and stops a reoccurring PDPism.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Kbs468(m): 10:44am On May 12, 2016
LoveMachine:


Dubai, Saudi Arabia and other countries just cut their subsidies as well. The oil glut is hurting all of OPEC but it's easier to blame APC. Luckily, Nairaland doesn't determine gov't policy.
Brother, I don't think if our leaders-Every OPEC members inclusive actually thinkered about diversification in it genuineness as a means of revenue generation, would they have connived into cutting down the IRANIAN production quota?

I mean if that decision wasn't reached, then going by the visit of PMB to IRAN, I guess Nigeria might be a destination for IRAN'S petrol by now as the benefit of trade and economic partnership agreement signed then. Thereby making the quantity available to us surplus in addition to the locally produced quantity.

And that should naturally breakdown the price for local consumption rather than this price hiking policy tended towards the same surplus quantity ideology.

I mean, because we want to earn foreign exchange from petroleum, we then collaborated with others into punishing ourselves via hardship again.

Come on, was that why our forefathers sort after independence?
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by agitator: 10:46am On May 12, 2016
LoveMachine:


C'mon fam no need for all that. Hypocrite? Not at all.

During the high crude season to deregulate would have been a problem. At present with the fall in price of crude coupled with the shortage of forex due in large part to the jamboree of looting the continuation of subsidy seems impossible.

Buhari said he would end subsidy and he has. That would seem to me as though he has made good on a campaign promise.

I'm not pro-APC nor pro-PDP. I'm pro-Naija! I love my people and I want to see us win. I supported the last gov't just like I will support the present gov't and the following. If and when they misstep I'll do my part to help them get back on their feet and provide good governance. I can't play opposition politics because I'm not a politician. I pray every elect official does an amazing job!

GEJ did some good things while in office but not enough to retain the presidency. At present, APC is in the Villa. I'd prefer to see them make good on their campaign promises. This past year has been rough but won't lie the GEJ years were bar none the roughest time of my life.

You are the type of parent that tells his kid(s) "In my days I was first in all tests and exams." And the kid knows you are lying but keeps silent out of respect. Do you think you are talking to your kids?
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by wowmenow: 10:48am On May 12, 2016
omenka:
iPod yoots and confusion..

Which Osinbajo in 2011?? cheesy

Even if Baba said so then, so what?? Are the conditions the same?? Una dey too damn emotional, these shildrens (apologies to Mama Peace).
Zombie spotted
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by glamz007(m): 10:49am On May 12, 2016
It's funny how some stupid Nigerians r still very cool with this development. Fuel is now 145. how do d common man survive. u keep saying they should endure. for how long. You keep saying u didn't vote a Nigerian. Am sure u didn't vote an idiot also
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Reference(m): 10:51am On May 12, 2016
Vveni:
Deregulation is good but I'm not sure we are ready for it right now. Refineries are supposed to be all functional and several other palliative measures put in place first.





No sir, better late than never. You create a demand before a supply not the other way round. The reason why most government enterprises donot succeed is that they lack the fuel of free market to propel them. PAN was established long before Innoson but you can see that Innoson is walking in tandem with true market demands and will succeed whereas PPN produces cars then 'looks' for markets. What made GSM succeed was a ready market. Pre-subsidy removal there was no true petroleum products market, only a government distorted cartel playgroup.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by monex(m): 10:52am On May 12, 2016
LoveMachine:


Dubai, Saudi Arabia and other countries just cut their subsidies as well. The oil glut is hurting all of OPEC but it's easier to blame APC. Luckily, Nairaland doesn't determine gov't policy.

well Fashola's analogy then was that the oil price glut is supposed to bring down the price of PMS. Now your analysis says the opposite. Who do I believe? You or Fashola?

I thank God peeps like Gimba Kakanda and Pius Adesanmi (who have no GEJ or PMB bias) exist. You lots (including the Omenka I used to respect b4) would have made it difficult for one to get objective political analysis.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by gcof(m): 10:54am On May 12, 2016
VictorRomanov:



The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What was their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is to wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!
I couldn't help but thank you for this wonderful response. you are one of the few who understand what is going on in this country

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Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Goke7: 10:55am On May 12, 2016
Image123:


We do need quality opposition, as that is what develops a good democracy and stops a reoccurring PDPism.

for now, there is no opposition as pdp still see themselves as the ruling party, do you think an average pdp fan or member believe they are in opposition? This is the problem we have right now. what we have as so called opposition are bitter fellows who are trying to incite the masses against the FG.

They talked about islamic agenda, that's not working anymore

They talked about exchange rate or shortage of forex as if PMB determines the value of the dollar

They can't hinged boko haram on PMB anymore as they now use the fulani herdsmen attacks as if it started today

Fuel scarcity never happened under pdp they claimed

They are very happy with the pipeline bombings and complain about power at the same time.

We can't have quality opposition right now, reason they are called wailers.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Reference(m): 11:00am On May 12, 2016
What I am just pleased about is the fact that the market is accessible to all comers (what Fashola should do in the power sector for a limited time before midwifing mergers to create efficiencies) and should be kept so until private refineries come online. The backs of the cartel must be broken and foreign refineries should be encouraged to sell products directly to Nigerians perhaps by building onshore depots and tank farms themselves. The price will surely retreat.

I wonder why Dangote didn't start his refinery as early as 2003. Even he would have predicted this outcome and be selling gas today.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by waziri4biz: 11:02am On May 12, 2016
omenka:
iPod yoots and confusion..

Which Osinbajo in 2011?? cheesy

Even if Baba said so then, so what?? Are the conditions the same?? Una dey too damn emotional, these shildrens (apologies to Mama Peace).
GEJ wanted to remove subsidy because he Identified that there was oil theft and Nigerians made it look like he was exploiting us.He wanted to be able to save for the raining day and diversify our economy. I'm not saying saying that he shouldn't remove subsidy but he should have tried to understand what it meant for GEJ instead of him saying rubbish on air that subsidy removal was not acceptable.GEJ's policies (BVN and TSA) are what Baba is using. GEJ could not save for today because Amaechi and co wanted him to share excess crude account money and Nigerians didn't want him to save from subsidy removal.I think Nigerians should learn to understand their leaders.I don't like PMB but I want to understand him at least
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by knightsTempler: 11:07am On May 12, 2016
EITHER THEY WERE WRONG AND GEJ WAS RIGHT, OR THEY ARE SO BAD THAT THEY ARE COPYING FAILURE

There's a saying that time proves everything right or wrong. As we are seeing daily, the Government of Goodluck Jonathan and those who supported it are being vindicated.
It is a great time to be alive honestly and see all the hypocrites give their explanations.

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Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Reference(m): 11:09am On May 12, 2016
Goke7:


for now, there is no opposition as pdp still see themselves as the ruling party, do you think an average pdp fan or member believe they are in opposition? This is the problem we have right now. what we have as so called opposition are bitter fellows who are trying to incite the masses against the FG.

They talked about islamic agenda, that's not working anymore

They talked about exchange rate or shortage of forex as if PMB determines the value of the dollar

They can't hinged boko haram on PMB anymore as they now use the fulani herdsmen attacks as if it started today

Fuel scarcity never happened under pdp they claimed

They are very happy with the pipeline bombings and complain about power at the same time.

We can't have quality opposition right now, reason they are called wailers.


Hmmm....making promises and evading them, double talk, criticising something and later embracing it is enough incitement. You don't need the PDP (still in disarray) to do that you guys are doing a good job yourselves.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by waziri4biz: 11:09am On May 12, 2016
omenka:
What do these guys know. They are just inconsolable Wailers. These same people that have been coming here to shout "we've been buying fuel at N400 a litre" are now making so much noise it would be sold at 145. What sense is there in their position? cheesy
how can u be company the price of fuel due to scarcity with the new inflated price due to subsidy removal don't compare N145/ltr with N400/ltr compare N145 with N86.5
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Oz4realsss: 11:12am On May 12, 2016
VictorRomanov:



The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What was their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is to wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!

Your claim is ridiculous. How dare you compare the petroleum industry to the telecommunications sector? Although there may have been noticeable gains, but its effect on the common man is never the same as the petroleum product would.

The telephone is not an essential commodity as the petrol. The common man depends on the latter for transportation and electricity. It is also an essential factor that determines the prices of goods and services in Nigeria. It further determines the cost of running small scale businesses in this era of epileptic power supply.

Same cannot be said about the telephone industry you provided as an analogy. Even when the telephone sector was deregulated, only those that could afford the high cost went for it. Only those that can afford it are still patronizing it till date. There are very expensive android phones also, but not everyone owns them. Infact, a sizable number of Nigerians own and use android phones. This simply tells that the telephone ownership and usage is not an essential commodity that affects the general wellbeing of large chunk of our society.
Having said these, stop comparing oranges to mangoes!
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by waziri4biz: 11:21am On May 12, 2016
VictorRomanov:



The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What were their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!
God bless u sir e be like say make I swallow put for my belle. Your point is very currect.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Reference(m): 11:22am On May 12, 2016
Quakertellicus1:


Good point...BUT....thanks to the drop in crude oil prices....we no longer have the revenue to do subsidy.

Even under GEJ.... removing the subsidy would have led to savings. Now...we even need the savings even more.

So if we had the revenue we should have continued the subsidy. Which kain wasteful housewife you be. Chop and chop all. When it is gone, start to save. I don't get it. There is a reason the western world does not subsidize energy. Let us find out why. My guess is that petroleum products have such a high consumption to production ratio that it is not considered worthwhile. They prefer giving you cash instead. Just like college scholarships instead of free tuition.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Oz4realsss: 11:23am On May 12, 2016
Oz4realsss:


Your claim is ridiculous. How dare you compare the petroleum industry to the telecommunications sector? Although there may have been noticeable gains, but its effect on the common man is never the same as the petroleum product would.

The telephone is not an essential commodity as the petrol. The common man depends on the latter for transportation and electricity. It is also an essential factor that determines the prices of goods and services in Nigeria. It further determines the cost of running small scale businesses in this era of epileptic power supply.

Same cannot be said about the telephone industry and its associated products and services that you provided as an analogy. Even when the telephone sector was deregulated, only those that could afford the high cost owned telephones. Till date, only those that can afford it are still patronizing it. There are very expensive android phones also, but not everyone owns them. Infact, very few Nigerians own and use android phones. This simply tells that the telephone ownership and usage is not an essential commodity that affects the general wellbeing of an average Nigerian.

Having said these, stop comparing oranges to mangoes!
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by slap1(m): 11:30am On May 12, 2016
Vveni:





Hahahahaha leave my daddy in the lord o
OK o. Enjoy, you and your daddy in the Lord.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by omenka(m): 11:35am On May 12, 2016
monex:


well Fashola's analogy then was that the oil price glut is supposed to bring down the price of PMS. Now your analysis says the opposite. Who do I believe? You or Fashola?

I thank God peeps like Gimba Kakanda and Pius Adesanmi (who have no GEJ or PMB bias) exist. You lots (including the Omenka I used to respect b4) would have made it difficult for one to get objective political analysis.
Wow!! You people never cease to amaze me. You look around you, see all the comments those idiots make, and then turn to point finger at me.

Turn your face go somewhere else abeg.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Eddie4all: 11:36am On May 12, 2016
[quote author=VictorRomanov post=45540918]


The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What were their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!
very reasonable comnent.....
nice one@victor
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by GambaOsaka: 11:37am On May 12, 2016
VictorRomanov:



The subsidy removal is a welcome development. It is much like the deregulation of telecommunications sector. At first people bought lines for 50k+ but now line is free. You only pay for recharge cards. I believe the same thing would happen to petrol, hopefully. My only annoyance is that we are 4 years late. Because the same people who are championing it now, were the same people who instigated protests all over the country. What were their motives back then? What has changed now? You talked about conditions, what conditions has changed?

Looking at it carefully, I've come to see that politicians care little or nothing about the masses. Their only concern is wrestling down power from their opponents, even if this means being unreasonable. And my friend, its so unfortunate that u have refused to see this!

Nice post,
Not only am i an ardent supporter of the present Government, i am also a believer of subsidy removal. It is a necessary risk that our government need to undertake. I am only bitter about the timing of this announcement because this year has already been hell for Nigerians and the last thing we need now is increment in PMS. However, on the bolded part of your post, i must say that the difference in Subsidy removal under GEJ and Buhari is found in the word -BRAND EQUITY. Do well to search for the meaning and then you'll understand why the reaction is much more less apprehensive from Nigerians. We are almost 100% sure that, unlike in 2012, the money saved from subsidy payments will be well accounted for this time around.

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Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by kayla12(f): 11:39am On May 12, 2016
[quote author=omenka post=45540720]What do these guys know. They are just inconsolable Wailers. These same people that have been coming here to shout "we've been buying fuel at N400 a litre" are now making so much noise it would be sold at 145. What sense is there in their position? cheesy[/quote

So that's the game plan, what happened to the initial 86.5?
It is in this same administration that fuel is been sold at #400
To you APC have reduced fuel price.
Re: Buhari & Osinbajo Said This About Fuel Subsidy In 2011 During GEJ Time(pics) by Leke001: 11:40am On May 12, 2016
Emekamex:
Some zombies are irredeemable, the hypocritical APC government killed our chance of full deregulation of the petroleum sector when conditions were way better by sponsoring senseless protests, only to lick their vomit later.

...and some Nigerians with brains still celebrate this

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