Qc1:
I don't need no silly proposal, I WANT A FIX !!!

Was I supposed to get your internet comment to problem physically

It's seems that you like to run your mount on the internet like Ben Bruce yet, you hate to fix your mess on site. How many times do we have to drag this?

The pictures below shows what I have to deal with because of you. How can you be so draft to build a house this low on a swampy land?

MR. Internet fix expert!

I am not trying to gloat, but who remembers this discussion about Brabus being a fake and fraud , but people still engaged his dubious services after several warnings!!!! Now he is throwing advise over the internet when he constructed the building foundation.

btw if the area is swampy, the water could also be coming from underneath the building of the dpc is not sufficient.

https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/41#20138676

n3xt:


Bros, I was at the site throughout the build period, saw the challenges and tell Sir QC1 all the proposed fixes. We parted ways after completing the build process and was unable to agree on cost of raising a fence and drainages which will address the major problem. The client took it upon himself and arrange some men to do the job. I wasn't told, I was there.

I've visited the site again in 2015 when the client called me for the roofing. I saw the same challenge we left behind in 2013 and adviced that it should be fixed right away before roofing the structure.

Now, this is coming again. @ agarawu23, I was told by the client that the madam does not want to see me on their site and what can I do than to watch, pray and hope for the best.

To visit the site is not an issue for me but to apply the right fix which comes at a cost. Not minding whatever it cost. I've always been visiting but we've not done a thing about what I suggested.

Are we saying, out of 10s of different tradespeople and artisans who have visited that site lately, no one have spot the issue and ask that it should be fixed before the rains.
Water is an issue to take very serious especially when you're in a very challenging terrain.

@ agarawu23, I'm ready to visit again if I have the permission to do so.

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@ Baba Qc1, you said I took your money and fled off site and you prayed with the name of God. I believe this was a statement made in error:

I don't know which money but if I can ask:

Is it money for the cement that we went to buy together from your contact in Igbogbo?

Is it money for the granite and gravel we both went to buy at Ikorodu suppliers stall?

Is it money for blocks supplied by (Baba Afusa) your old friend?

Is it money for roofing woods supplied by your neighbour (bought by your brother)?

Is it money for sand supplied by the big bros on the street?

Is it money for the technical students that came through your brother to do the upper floor block setting?

Is it money for the fence that you did by yourself?

Is it money for the Omo oniles that was paid by your brother to your old friend?

Is it money for the granites supplied by Iya Afusat (your old friend)?

Is it money for the filling sand bought from the big bros in your neighbourhood which was done while I was on Xmas break?

Is it money for labourers led by mumuni that sandfill the foundation and also backfill the house with laterite?

Is there any money paid to any of my workers because I didn't pay them?

Baba, I'm not among the 27m project o. There's no way we could have done that figure at slab stage where we stopped work.



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Meanwhile, here's a picture of the roof rainwater downspout installed on my chateau to collect water from the roof gutter into interlinked drains in the compound. The aim is to control the water.

Oga qc1, i will strictly advice you to put any blame game and argument aside for now and let Oga brabus visit the site to see what he can do about it since he was the one that constructed it.

If his suggestion will cost u money and deal with the water once and for all, its better than spending millions yearly to control water.

You have been bringing different set of ppl yet no solution and i know how you feel cos i will feel bad too if i am in your shoes.

Should he visit your site to fix it up for u?.

Blv me, brabus might/maybe controversial here but i respect his talent and how he deal and respond to building issues here.

I am just saying my own as a concernced person and cos I know the problem you are facing presently.

Pls engage a professional.Brabus is not a professional. He is a fraudster that posts pictures. That is why you are in this mess. Pay the extra and have peace of mind

AZUH:
27m . This man might go mad oh . All these contractors doesn't care .they think people pick money from a tree . Forget God in this and look for solution . If I spend that kind of money I won't be here on the net " I will be naked looking for the contractor . E better make e kill me oh .

Oga no let me piss for body abeg

God for bid I use my hard earned money to buy a swampy land

If the location attracts me, i will better look for another location ni. Police no dey catch person on top.

@ agarawu23,

Here's the terrain where I built my chateau. It's far worse. The runoff is so heavy that it can move a car. One of Nairaland mods lives in my area so he can confirm this. I knew about this challenge before the build and went ahead to apply everything and anything that will keep water off my property.

I took early action and never had to find who to blame for flooded compound. I didn't rush to build a fence which will end up damming up water in the compound.

I ended up turning my worst nightmare into a lovely water garden for my less than N18m chateau.

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Now, if it is fraud to do the above to protect ones investment, let me be a fraudster.

n3xt:
@ agarawu23,

Here's the terrain where I built my chateau. It's far worse. The runoff is so heavy that it can move a car. One of Nairaland mods lives in my area so he can confirm this. I knew about this challenge before the build and went ahead to apply everything and anything that will keep water off my property.

I took early action and never had to find who to blame for flooded compound. I didn't rush to build a fence which will end up damming up water in the compound.

I ended up turning my worst nightmare into a lovely water garden for my less than N18m chateau.

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Now, if it fraud to do the above to protect ones investment, let me be a fraudster.

You will think this guy did not build the foundation of this house

see Brabus Never missing an opportunity to advertise using someone's tragedy that you participated in. Style over substance

It's always the client at fault!

OnetimeOnly:


You will think this guy did not build the foundation of this house

see Brabus Never missing an opportunity to advertise using someone's tragedy that you participated in. Style over substance

Whether you see it as adverts or anything, it is what it is. It is a fix that worked in a worse terrain.

So I'll rather pick what I can learn from it and move on or just wish it away.

I'm sure there are millions of people in the same dilemma who may learn one thing or the other from this.

So, if "Brabus is a thief" is all you learn. It's not a problem. The only thing you can't accuse me of is why didn't I use my resources to do the drainage by myself or introduce gutters on roofs that were installed by another contractor or build a drainage for the community. Because that's the only thing I know that can work.

All the pictures I posted here has been on the Internet for more than 3 years now and the structure is well protected because we apply the right fix and not the right blame.

Qc1:


^^^

This is what was suggested and this is what we did. I'm on the phone with my wife right now and she's telling me that it seem's it's working.
We dug up the DPC and raised the floor another 2-3 inches with water proof cement and we are going to do the same again for tiling. Right now, we are just observing the fix for a while before tiling.

Qc1 don't get angry because you need a clear head to overcome this right now. I know it's easy to say but truly don't get angry. It's well.

Let me just add that the measures you are currently applying may not solve the problem long term: you need to keep water away from your foundation like mad!!! Your foundation MUST be bone dry If you don't, you run the risk of your building sinking. This is the discussion you should have with the guy FastShipping is sending over. If your foundation is not constantly dry, not all the waterproof/nylon cement will help.

n3xt:
@ agarawu23,

Here's the terrain where I built my chateau. It's far worse. The runoff is so heavy that it can move a car. One of Nairaland mods lives in my area so he can confirm this. I knew about this challenge before the build and went ahead to apply everything and anything that will keep water off my property.

I took early action and never had to find who to blame for flooded compound. I didn't rush to build a fence which will end up damming up water in the compound.

I ended up turning my worst nightmare into a lovely water garden for my less than N18m chateau.

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Now, if it is fraud to do the above to protect ones investment, let me be a fraudster.

pls sorry for going back, did you told him how to control water from the house before u started his project?

And pls try and talk to him privately to know the way forward. I have been minding my business on some issues here but i just feel his pains.

n3xt:


Whether you see it as adverts or anything, it is what it is. It is a fix that worked in a worse terrain.

So I'll rather pick what I can learn from it and move on or just wish it away.

I'm sure there are millions of people in the same dilemma who may learn one thing or the other from this.

So, if "Brabus is a thief" is all you learn. It's not a problem.

All the pictures I posted here has been on the Internet for more than 3 years now and the structure is well protected because we apply the right fix and not the right blame.

Oh yes! The right fix, that's why you have several disgruntled clients on this forum.
Btw my comments here are meant to inform forum readers and potential builders about your antecedents. I have tangled with you on this forum and watched your interactions with clients after projects go sour.
A leopard cannot change its spots.

You are not a professional, you are simply a thief and fraud and people should be aware of that ...bye

agarawu23:
pls sorry for going back, did you told him how to control water from the house before u started his project?

And pls try and talk to him privately to know the way forward. I have been minding my business on some issues here but i just feel his pains.

Bros, I did anything and everything to detect the sources of water on the land. It was the neighbours waste water pipes. They channeled it to the site and buried it underground until we detect it. Only God knows how many of such were done by the neighbour to keep their house afloat.

I knew this thing come at a very big cost so I said the budget for the drainage and fence is not going to work that it's better we concentrate on drainage alone but my client wanted fence to prevent people from going to defecate the site.

So we didn't agree on the figures and I left. To my surprise, I just walked in on the Sunday that followed to bid my Oga goodbye and discovered work is ongoing on the drainage and fence.

Now what do you want me to do? I just walked back.

Now I really don't want to talk about this anymore because the painful part is this is a known issue which could have been managed right from the beginning. Such a challenge shouldn't take 3 years to fix. Within that space of time, more damages could have occur.

How will i count my ijebu money to buy a land in an area like this? Lailai

agarawu23:
How will i count my ijebu money to buy a land in an area like this? Lailai

There's nothing wrong in buying choice property in some challenging areas. You just need to be aware of the challenges and be upfront with the right fix.

If you see the road now, you'll not believe it again. It's now a 6 lane express road.

n3xt:


Bros, I did anything and everything to detect the sources of water on the land. It was the neighbours waste water pipes. They channeled it to the site and buried it underground until we detect it. Only God knows how many of such were done by the neighbour to keep their house afloat.

I knew this thing come at a very big cost so I said the budget for the drainage and fence is not going to work that it's better we concentrate on drainage alone but my client wanted fence to prevent people from going to defecate the site.

So we didn't agree on the figures and I left. To my surprise, I just walked in on the Sunday that followed to bid my Oga goodbye and discovered work is ongoing on the drainage and fence.

Now what do you want me to do? I just walked back.

Now I really don't want to talk about this anymore because the painful part is this is a known issue which could have been managed right from the beginning. Such a challenge shouldn't take 3 years to fix. Within that space of time, more damages could have happen.

I understand some "things" that happened between both of you but no time to prolong issues

Will you pls talk to him privately and visit the site?

A woman close to my uncle house in abule osun (lagos) left her 4 bedroom flat that kept sinking despite millions she spent controlling water.

I know what he is facing presently and quick solution that will last forever should be the next thing.

n3xt:


There's nothing wrong in buying choice property in some challenging areas. You just need to be aware of the challenges and be upfront with the right fix.

If you see the road now, you'll not believe it again. It's now a 6 lane express road.

what about the millions spent on foundation ? Which account I go write am ?

Poor man like us no dey pass out boundary. Road is very important when buying land.

agarawu23:
I understand some "things" that happened between both of you but no time to prolong issues

Will you pls talk to him privately and visit the site?

A woman close to my uncle house in abule osun (lagos) left her 4 bedroom flat that kept sinking despite millions she spent controlling water.

I know what he is facing presently and quick solution that will last forever should be the next thing.

I have no issues whatsoever. How many times has Baba Qc1 called me and I quickly heed his call. What's big deal in saying "Bosun, I'm having it rough at my site with water issues. Can we work this together? I have tried some fix but it seems not working. Any good suggestions?" "I need you and your men ASAP to find me a lasting solution to this problem."

Sometimes, the best fix is not always the popular ones. You'll just feel like what haven't I done?

He's still the only client I've given my Christmas and my birthday. So there's nothing he can't take from me even till now.

Ask and you shall receive. But do Baba still believe in my judgement? Or mere gossips from those who profits from confusion that will make him loose focus on the main goal which is to find a lasting solution to protecting his investment?

Person wan buy land or build house, e come nairaland dey find seller/contractor. I craze ni?

Oga

Take it easy on me, I was only reading out what i found in a textbook.
Lets assume the terrain is Lekki, loose soil, swampy land
Also, the piles dont have to be that deep though, I would have thought. You are right to also say that they would need to be brazed or chained together to maintain strength.

I would still be interested in seeing the figures if you can cost it out roughly please.

Thanks.

abdulwastecx:


There is already a misconception about raft foundation here. Raft foundation don't support line load/wall land, such type of foundation is called beam on grade foundation. This grade on beam foundation is a continuous reinforced concrete members use to support load with minimal bending ( wall loads).

This beam on grade foundation can either be supported by soil beneath if the soil have adequate properties or pilliing in areas with poor soil ( water lodged soil).

Responding to this article, it is more expensive to construct pile foundation or more appropriately '' pier and beam foundation or post and beam foundation) than reinforced wide strip footing or ordinary beam on grade foundation because you will need this pier to be spaced closer to each other and you will need to connect them with grade beam of adequate depth and reinforcement. in practice, this method is an advanced form of beam on grade foundation.

The choice of any of these type of foundation depends on the type of structure and soil conditions. In expansive soil where there is a distinct wet season ( the soil behave like water lodged) or dry season when the soil is normal, a wide strip can be use to carry a fence wall of up to 4m ( a minimum line land of less than 15kN/m) provided the water is kept away from the foundation.
A grade on beam supported by the soil below can also be use while the most expensive and structurally sound option is to use grade beam supported on pier or pilling

Thought as much as well, 6m is way too much. Just means that the blockwork might be suspect to collapse.
Also, the base will they have to do just blinding and then start setting block ?

When you say excavate loose sand and replace it with load bearing sand, how deep will this have to be dug up from the natural ground height, does it have to span the entire foundation area ?
What kind of sand is load bearing, and will the loose soil still not be the sub soil ? how far do you go without hitting the water table ?

n3xt:
@ mavverick, 6m spacing is too much. If
You keep it at 4m, you'll have between 15 - 18 points.

Why not excavate the vegetable soil and replace it with good bearing soil. The advantages of these design outweighs its disadvantages. Not only have you been able to adequately secure your perimeters, you have actually been able to deal with water issue by 30% by reducing what gets to your foundation.

This is a standard recommendation for terrains with weak soil. Pile is only recommended where there are no other option.

I can't remember the ID of the Nairalander who excavated almost 4m vegetable soil, replaced with soils with good bearing capacity from his land in Chevron to raise a 3 floor structure.

No blame the OP Oga

Think of it like this.

The person fit no dey Nija
Numerous tales of family members defrauding each other on top this house building thing.
There are some really good contractors on NL, you will be surprised. Its just that majority of the good ones spend time actually constructing buildings rather then defending allegations, in fact the bad ones self suppose change job and work at "THE OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER". They spend way too much time defending thier bad and shoddy work.
NL services (property etc) is more for people in diaspora, coz no typical nija man or woman or mixed person will come here looking for a contractor. Thats not how it works when you are on the ground.

loomer:
Person wan buy land or build house, e come nairaland dey find seller/contractor. I craze ni?

Na your site be that Oga ?
Clearly not a poor man oo, Poor man lives in mud houses with thatched roof. Go ask Bubu for Daura...

agarawu23:
what about the millions spent on foundation ? Which account I go write am ?

Poor man like us no dey pass out boundary. Road is very important when buying land.

mavverick:
No blame the OP Oga

Think of it like this.

The person fit no dey Nija
Numerous tales of family members defrauding each other on top this house building thing.
There are some really good contractors on NL, you will be surprised. Its just that majority of the good ones spend time actually constructing buildings rather then defending allegations, in fact the bad ones self suppose change job and work at "THE OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER". They spend way too much time defending thier bad and shoddy work.
NL services (property etc) is more for people in diaspora, coz no typical nija man or woman or mixed person will come here looking for a contractor. Thats not how it works when you are on the ground.

Truth be told, na my brother I prefer to chop my money, rather than one stranger.

Anyway, na lesson people learn with this one

loomer:
Person wan buy land or build house, e come nairaland dey find seller/contractor. I craze ni?

There are quite a few good builders on Nairaland.

If you have time do a search for Spyder880, AbdulWastecx, Skimaski, Aventures, RichYoungRuler, etc Whistle clean, not one controversy.

Spyder880 has also sold lots of lands in his estates and I have yet to read of one disgruntled buyer.

Also, one Nairalander contractor offered to do my roof and then I can pay him when the work is done.

Moral of story, there are many good people on here.

EgunMogaji:


There are quite a few good builders on Nairaland.

If you have time do a search for Spyder880, AbdulWastecx, Skimaski, Aventures, RichYoungRuler, etc Whistle clean, not one controversy.

Spyder880 has also sold lots of lands in his estates and I have yet to read of one disgruntled buyer.

Also, one Nairalander contractor offered to do my roof and then I can pay him when the work is done.

Moral of story, there are many good people on here.

Sure, there always will be good guys. But evil always out way the good ones

So like I said I go forever stick to my brothers. Them be heaven sent until proven otherwise.

EgunMogaji:

Confirm.
Ijebu Ode tinzs

And original Babalawo go dey do their own thing in the backyard o.

Hajji M.

mavverick:
Thought as much as well, 6m is way too much. Just means that the blockwork might be suspect to collapse.
Also, the base will they have to do just blinding and then start setting block ?

When you say excavate loose sand and replace it with load bearing sand, how deep will this have to be dug up from the natural ground height, does it have to span the entire foundation area ?
What kind of sand is load bearing, and will the loose soil still not be the sub soil ? how far do you go without hitting the water table ?

Because of the cost, some people always mark out building area and excavate the vegetable soil in the area. The soil is excavated to the level of undisturbed compacted soil. This depth can be determined by carrying out a CPT test, digging a borehole or a trial pit. Hitting the table is no biggie but ensuring you get to compact sand.

EgunMogaji:


There are quite a few good builders on Nairaland.

If you have time do a search for Spyder880, AbdulWastecx, Skimaski, Aventures, RichYoungRuler, etc Whistle clean, not one controversy.

Spyder880 has also sold lots of lands in his estates and I have yet to read of one disgruntled buyer.

Also, one Nairalander contractor offered to do my roof and then I can pay him when the work is done.

Moral of story, there are many good people on here.

I second Egun's comment for the very first time. The builders mentioned above fall into the category of the "Good". we have the bad and the ugly. And that's the category Brabus Nexthome belong o

The good builders are always busy on site so as to avoid the kind of mistakes the ugly builders argue all day about here...Good builders are also busy breaking new ground every week and they hardly have time to come online to give lectures with internet pictures just to score cheap points. You wont see them come online to do packaging or argue with previous clients and potential clients.....most importantly their work speaks for them. if na lie ask oga Spyder880, AbdulWastecx, Skimaski and Aventures.

Chekitaut:
very scaring, segcy14 pls respond to this.

Prices are fair

mimini:



@P291 Thanks for your response. I really needed it. So is it jt to mix ABS cement +POP cement + emulsion paint + bond together? Is there a ratio for mixing them together? I Wil b grateful for your response. Pls I also welcome ideas frm everyone that knows much abt screeding. Thanks

POP moulding plaster( ABS, JK..) + POP emulsion paint + bond for internal screeding while you can use ordinary cement + POP emulsion paint + bond for your external screeding.

For the mix, contact a screeder.