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Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 3:26pm On May 03, 2016
ceaser:


Alright. So let's do some talking.

First, I wonder how this importation thingy works as regards reselling and making profits. I have done one or two, right (just two WiFi routers I got on Aliexpress for 6k each and re-sold at 10k each), but I wonder , can one go major on this? One reason is this: Assuming I use procurement services like yours, I calculated the amount I'll spent at the end of it all (purchase, procurement and shipping) will be very close to the amount this item is being sold by every other merchant here in 9ja. So how the heck do guys make profits on these stuffs? It beats me.

I have imported coupla things majorly for personal use (electronic components, LED grow light fittings and other solar power components). Some of these things I later "angrily thought" can be manufactured here with the right incentives, of course some of the raw materials may still have to be imported while some can be sourced for locally. I am about making some feasibility studies on that though. That is just some of my thoughts echoed for you to know.

Please answer that my first question on how re-sellers reconcile that profit thingy.

Having said those, please give me the full financial implications (preferably broken down into cost price, procurement and shipping) of these two items having the pictures attached:

1. 24 volts DC solar operated chain drive Sliding gate opener (pictures 1 & 2)

The one in the link is driven by rack and pinion gear coupling. There may be issues with sourcing for replacement racks in the future (no merchant in 9ja stocks it), so I will prefer one that is "Chain driven". You can easily get to buy your chains in auto shops in Nigeria.

https://detail.1688.com/offer/1283670913.html?spm=0.0.0.0.PaKS2o

2. 40 watts Portable solar home system (picture 3)

I haven't the link to this item, but I'm hoping this picture will do justice to help you understand what it is.

For those price quotations and breakdowns, reply preferably to my mail: smartintelle at gmail dot com
For the other questions, please reply here for the benefit of other members.

NB: I have utilized your services for procurement and shipping once before (around January). I am pleased with the result. Please handle this with the same dedication.

Good day sir,

Base on our finding from the link you ask us to prepare quotation , we discover that one can only make order from the merchant a member and that has prompt us to quickly search for another merchant with same product.

Please kindly check the replace links and take time to go though them and see any of them that meet your requirement.

1. 24 volts DC solar operated chain drive Sliding gate opener

s.etao.com/detail/8359832267472282970.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.gM8hXF&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=wwwetao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/25525132558.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.gM8hXF&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=wwwetao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/17978178238.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.gM8hXF&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=wwwetao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/15314306577.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.gM8hXF&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=wwwetao_20160503

2. 40 watts Portable solar home system

s.etao.com/detail/44825749814.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.a5qYgB&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=setao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/526495020585.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.a5qYgB&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=setao_20160503&sku_properties=1627207%3A479310945

s.etao.com/detail/45812277228.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.a5qYgB&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=setao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/524075742177.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.a5qYgB&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=setao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/961786433550134284.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.a5qYgB&rebatepartner=4805&initiative_id=setao_20160503

s.etao.com/detail/36433256585.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.E7LQQj&rebatepartner=4805

s.etao.com/detail/526438007392.html?spm=1002.8.0.0.E7LQQj&rebatepartner=4805

Please kindly visit any of the links and get back us and i really appreciate your time you took to explain in details of what you need and even back it up with sample link. How i wish another individuals that do contact us for such assistant can follow your blueprint we will try our best to reply them asap but in the case of nor , it will be very difficult for we to render such assistant expect Phone or Laptop....
Bravo Sir
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by abbeyforex(m): 6:37pm On May 03, 2016
winetapper:
@ceaser

Lol at the questions.
But its normal for you to ask and thanks for asking that is why we are here for you.

Dollar rate has gone High now it will wheel out mini importation.. Nada its not true.. Like uncle Abbeyforex will say.. It rather separate Boys from Men cool


People import for different reasons and get their profit from different means.

People import for personal use eg electronic, house hold items..

People import based on contract eg campaign period, wedding,birthday, house opening, festivals..

People import to sell online eg Jumia,olx ,konga etc.


How they make profit:

They seek the best seller that will give them beat price,best quality and best relationship.

With it some will even give you goods on credit to meet your customer demand..

Most times shipping cost discourage mini importation.. So with us we give you the best guaranteed shipping rate and time frame.

Securing good payment rate.
Imagine where you deal with us and you pay for every every like purchase, procurement and shipping at once At a single rate.. Sure it will save you some cash

With all this secured I am sure it separate you from Boys to Men cool grin



Let me quickly buttress,I dont understand English neither do I know Physics but I surely know the INTERPRETATION OF FIGURES.
@ ceaser:
The purpose for which you import determines your profit margin. Let me quickly ask if you are importing to use ,importing because a product is trending or you are importing to make HUGE PROFIT

Here are factors to consider :
1. The product should be one that solves a problem or fulfill a scarce need (for high rate of sales)
2. The product should have no or few alternative,monopolistic in nature or at worst have few competition (even your enemy will have no choice than to patronize you)
3. The product should be everybody's product (to facilitate high sales)
4. The product should be light-weighted (at least to wave the high exchange rate affecting shipping fee )
5. Worst case scenario,you should be able to make minimum of 100% Return On Investment.

*I see some BOYS importing some items out of which they managed to make 10% when the MEN are importing product that gives them 500% minimum.
* I see some BOYS importing items whose shipping fee is almost the same price as the cost of the item while the MEN are importing items whose shipping fee is less than 10% of the cost of the item
*I see the BOYS importing popular product that customers already know the selling price,therefore they cannot give their own price while the MEN are importing items upon which they fix their own price anyhow they want.

I feel like to continue but I cant type any longer,I like working with figures than letters.

All cant be said in a day

Is your Plan B in place yet?
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:02pm On May 03, 2016
abbeyforex:




Let me quickly buttress,I dont understand English neither do I know Physics but I surely know the INTERPRETATION OF FIGURES.
@ ceaser:
The purpose for which you import determines your profit margin. Let me quickly ask if you are importing to use ,importing because a product is trending or you are importing to make HUGE PROFIT

Here are factors to consider :
1. The product should be one that solves a problem or fulfill a scarce need (for high rate of sales)
2. The product should have no or few alternative,monopolistic in nature or at worst have few competition (even your enemy will have no choice than to patronize you)
3. The product should be everybody's product (to facilitate high sales)
4. The product should be light-weighted (at least to wave the high exchange rate affecting shipping fee )
5. Worst case scenario,you should be able to make minimum of 100% Return On Investment.

*I see some BOYS importing some items out of which they managed to make 10% when the MEN are importing product that gives them 500% minimum.
* I see some BOYS importing items whose shipping fee is almost the same price as the cost of the item while the MEN are importing items whose shipping fee is less than 10% of the cost of the item
*I see the BOYS importing popular product that customers already know the selling price,therefore they cannot give their own price while the MEN are importing items upon which they fix their own price anyhow they want.

I feel like to continue but I cant type any longer,I like working with figures than letters.

All cant be said in a day

Is your Plan B in place yet?

Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:05pm On May 03, 2016
abbeyforex:




Let me quickly buttress,I dont understand English neither do I know Physics but I surely know the INTERPRETATION OF FIGURES.
@ ceaser:
The purpose for which you import determines your profit margin. Let me quickly ask if you are importing to use ,importing because a product is trending or you are importing to make HUGE PROFIT

Here are factors to consider :
1. The product should be one that solves a problem or fulfill a scarce need (for high rate of sales)
2. The product should have no or few alternative,monopolistic in nature or at worst have few competition (even your enemy will have no choice than to patronize you)
3. The product should be everybody's product (to facilitate high sales)
4. The product should be light-weighted (at least to wave the high exchange rate affecting shipping fee )
5. Worst case scenario,you should be able to make minimum of 100% Return On Investment.

*I see some BOYS importing some items out of which they managed to make 10% when the MEN are importing product that gives them 500% minimum.
* I see some BOYS importing items whose shipping fee is almost the same price as the cost of the item while the MEN are importing items whose shipping fee is less than 10% of the cost of the item
*I see the BOYS importing popular product that customers already know the selling price,therefore they cannot give their own price while the MEN are importing items upon which they fix their own price anyhow they want.

I feel like to continue but I cant type any longer,I like working with figures than letters.

All cant be said in a day

Is your Plan B in place yet?


Enough holy water for you to easy your stress... You and winetapper has hit the point...

In the main time I will share more light on how to cut down expenses importing to Nigeria in the regime of high cost of exchange rate...

Hints.
Apart from our logistic services job , I myself import just 4 times in a year and that is one of my expo wink wink wink that alone increase my profit ratio to 200% upward. If I were in your shoe right now , take time to go though winetapper & abbeyforex last update from there something reasonable will manifest.....
Bravo Sir
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by ceaser: 4:14am On May 05, 2016
abbeyforex:




Let me quickly buttress,I dont understand English neither do I know Physics but I surely know the INTERPRETATION OF FIGURES.
@ ceaser:
The purpose for which you import determines your profit margin. Let me quickly ask if you are importing to use ,importing because a product is trending or you are importing to make HUGE PROFIT

Here are factors to consider :
1. The product should be one that solves a problem or fulfill a scarce need (for high rate of sales)
2. The product should have no or few alternative,monopolistic in nature or at worst have few competition (even your enemy will have no choice than to patronize you)
3. The product should be everybody's product (to facilitate high sales)
4. The product should be light-weighted (at least to wave the high exchange rate affecting shipping fee )
5. Worst case scenario,you should be able to make minimum of 100% Return On Investment.

*I see some BOYS importing some items out of which they managed to make 10% when the MEN are importing product that gives them 500% minimum.
* I see some BOYS importing items whose shipping fee is almost the same price as the cost of the item while the MEN are importing items whose shipping fee is less than 10% of the cost of the item
*I see the BOYS importing popular product that customers already know the selling price,therefore they cannot give their own price while the MEN are importing items upon which they fix their own price anyhow they want.

I feel like to continue but I cant type any longer,I like working with figures than letters.

All cant be said in a day

Is your Plan B in place yet?


This is good, very good. I guess I'm still gonna make use a lotta tutoring before swimming this ocean, except of course I'm ready to learn the hard way like AleAirHub did grin But bro, I nor envy those your experiences o cheesy I'd rather lean on consultants for direction than plunge in.

My plan B? I think I may have to consider the option of group importation, or at least invest in someone with the right ideas. But these days, sincerity, honesty and uprightness which are needed to engender trust are hard to come by in people.
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by ceaser: 4:26am On May 05, 2016
AleAirHub:


Good day sir,

Please kindly visit any of the links and get back us and i really appreciate your time you took to explain in details of what you need and even back it up with sample link. How i wish another individuals that do contact us for sure assistant can follow your blueprint we will try our best to reply them asap but in the case of nor , it will be very difficult for we to render such assistant expect Phone or Laptop....
Bravo Sir

I'll check out the links. Of course from my earlier patronage of your services, I was equally explicit in the item description and I later reasoned that it made procurement easy. You thereafter offered another alternative. Then i can remember my response was "I trust your discretion to get quality, so go ahead with the processing"

Well the deal was worth it. And the item is still strongly serving its purpose till date. Thank you for that.

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Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by ceaser: 4:46pm On May 05, 2016
Please can you give the quotation on this:

http://awp.m.etao.com/h5/m-super/detail.html?id=526495020585

Send to: smartintelle at gmail dot com

Thanks.

Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:06am On May 06, 2016
ceaser:
Please can you give the quotation on this:

http://awp.m.etao.com/h5/m-super/detail.html?id=526495020585

Send to: smartintelle at gmail dot com

Thanks.

Good morning sir,

We have sent you the quotation cost and two bill was sent because of the grade of the product; One is= Upgraded package and 2nd one is = Standard Edition Package.

Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:08am On May 06, 2016
ceaser:


I'll check out the links. Of course from my earlier patronage of your services, I was equally explicit in the item description and I later reasoned that it made procurement easy. You thereafter offered another alternative. Then i can remember my response was "I trust your discretion to get quality, so go ahead with the processing"

Well the deal was worth it. And the item is still strongly serving its purpose till date. Thank you for that.

Good Morning,

We are really happy to hear that.

Bravo Sir...
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by ceaser: 5:24pm On May 06, 2016
AleAirHub:


Good morning sir,

We have sent you the quotation cost and two bill was sent because of the grade of the product; One is= Upgraded package and 2nd one is = Standard Edition Package.

Thanks

Thanks. Got it.

For the 24 volts solar operated gate openers, the links are mostly of mains (220 volts) operated and also use rack and pinion as drive. The option is to get one that uses Chain and sprocket drive mechanism and also powered by 24 volts solar with/without back up battery. Another variant has the option of being able to switch power between AC and DC. There are a couple of these on Amazon.

Can those still be found on 1688?
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 6:10pm On May 06, 2016
ceaser:


Thanks. Got it.

For the 24 volts solar operated gate openers, the links are mostly of mains (220 volts) operated and also use rack and pinion as drive. The option is to get one that uses Chain and sprocket drive mechanism and also powered by 24 volts solar with/without back up battery. Another variant has the option of being able to switch power between AC and DC. There are a couple of these on Amazon.

Can those still be found on 1688?

Good evening sir,

We advise you to contact any merchant from alibaba and submit all your requirement and you will be glad to find one. Our job is strictly logistics and procurement services which implies that we may not have technical knowledge of what a client need or want to use the product for but can only assist in searching out the name of the item/product and of which we have done that already...
Bravo sir
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by bush4ker(m): 6:35pm On May 06, 2016
ceaser:


Thanks. Got it.

For the 24 volts solar operated gate openers, the links are mostly of mains (220 volts) operated and also use rack and pinion as drive. The option is to get one that uses Chain and sprocket drive mechanism and also powered by 24 volts solar with/without back up battery. Another variant has the option of being able to switch power between AC and DC. There are a couple of these on Amazon.

Can those still be found on 1688?
Alibaba is your surebet
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by StraightManner: 8:30pm On May 06, 2016
@AleAirHub can you help me buy from Aliexpress and import it to naija? If yes, please let me have your contact. Thanks.
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:35pm On May 06, 2016
StraightManner:
@AleAirHub can you help me buy from Aliexpress and import it to naija? If yes, please let me have your contact. Thanks.
Yes. please kindly find my contact details on my signature.
Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by orisayomisamuel(m): 10:57am On May 09, 2016
@Aleairhub, respond to my mail, awaiting your reply............ @oris....sb@gmail.com
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by xwhite(m): 11:19am On May 09, 2016
Following
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 11:23am On May 09, 2016
orisayomisamuel:
@Aleairhub, respond to my mail, awaiting your reply............ @oris....sb@gmail.com

Good morning,

Our Cc will reply you shortly.
Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 12:36pm On May 09, 2016
orisayomisamuel:
@Aleairhub, respond to my mail, awaiting your reply............ @oris....sb@gmail.com

Please check your mail.

Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 4:52am On May 10, 2016
Good morning everyone,


We use this medium to say very big thanks for your support , advice ,patronage, etc.

Any moment from now , our USA procurement/Hotel & Air Ticket Reservoir will be going live.

We are also using the medium to inform those of our prudent clients that has use of services before or now , should kindly reachout to us if USA Importation is included in your market... We are trying to see how you can import from US sites that support Dynamic Currency Converter[ a platform that enable use pay for goods at a reasonable exchange rate]
.

Thanks and remain bless

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Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by Nobody: 11:11am On May 10, 2016
I need quotation for this ASAP please. Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 1:29pm On May 10, 2016
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 3:14pm On May 10, 2016
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by jedisco(m): 6:40pm On May 10, 2016
I know you must have answered this question severally but I couldn't pick any post.
What is the advantage of taobao and 1688 over alibaba especially for bulk purchases?
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 12:18am On May 11, 2016
jedisco:
I know you must have answered this question severally but I couldn't pick any post.
What is the advantage of taobao and 1688 over alibaba especially for bulk purchases?

Good morning,

++++Mention sites are all owned by one company called Alibaba Holding Company

++++Alibaba has been best known for a marketplace for buyers who want to order a larger goods/qty. Their prices are surebet but you must meet the merchant FOB target (Free On Board) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOB_%28shipping%29[/url] . Over there , you have fully power of negotiation of either the you accept the merchant price or the merchant accept yours..... [Level ground]. cheesy cheesy cheesy

++++ Taobao/1688 is the semi-marketplace of alibaba , which offer a reasonable amount that can not be found in aliexpress or other Chinese store. You're sure of order goods at MOQ [Minimum Order Quantity] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/minimum-order-quantity . Their price seem to be favourable to most importer..

So i advice you go though our thread from 1-44 and you will get more insight, because such questions have been answer here.

Take care

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Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by jedisco(m): 8:11am On May 11, 2016
AleAirHub:


Good morning,

++++Mention sites are all owned by one company called Alibaba Holding Company

++++Alibaba has been best known for a marketplace for buyers who want to order a larger goods/qty. Their prices are surebet but you must meet the merchant FOB target (Free On Board) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOB_%28shipping%29[/url] . Over there , you have fully power of negotiation of either the you accept the merchant price or the merchant accept yours..... [Level ground]. cheesy cheesy cheesy

++++ Taobao/1688 is the semi-marketplace of alibaba , which offer a reasonable amount that can not be found in aliexpress or other Chinese store. You're sure of order goods at MOQ [Minimum Order Quantity] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/minimum-order-quantity . Their price seem to be favourable to most importer..

So i advice you go though our thread from 1-44 and you will get more insight, because such questions have been answer here.

Take care

Thanks. I'm actually interested in importation of customised fabric like ties and clothing materials with logo.

I want to start with ties first. What do you think is a good price for a polyester tie with logo because I'm getting confused with the prices I'm seeing
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:35am On May 11, 2016
jedisco:


Thanks. I'm actually interested in importation of customised fabric like ties and clothing materials with logo.

I want to start with ties first. What do you think is a good price for a polyester tie with logo because I'm getting confused with the prices I'm seeing

Good morning sir,

Please kindly forward us the details of the prices you have received so far with their links, let see how it goes.
Bravo!!! cool
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by jedisco(m): 2:45pm On May 11, 2016
AleAirHub:


Good morning sir,

Please kindly forward us the details of the prices you have received so far with their links, let see how it goes.
Bravo!!! cool
Although we have not yet agreed on the design. But the price he gave me is $0.85.
Though we have not finalised on the design, here is a link to the store https://mjtie.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-801129845/Logo_Necktie.html
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:52am On May 12, 2016
jedisco:

Although we have not yet agreed on the design. But the price he gave me is $0.85.
Though we have not finalised on the design, here is a link to the store https://mjtie.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-801129845/Logo_Necktie.html

Good morning sir,
So what price are you looking into.
Thanks
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by winetapper: 8:08pm On May 12, 2016
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Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 8:16pm On May 12, 2016
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by jedisco(m): 7:31am On May 13, 2016
AleAirHub:


Good morning sir,
So what price are you looking into.
Thanks

Can't say. It's not something I've done before. I just need someone with a broader knowledge base on it or someone who has done something similar to give me an ideal price.
Re: Say No To Aliexpress And Alibaba Importation (But Other Great Chinese Sites). by AleAirHub(m): 7:38am On May 13, 2016
jedisco:


Can't say. It's not something I've done before. I just need someone with a broader knowledge base on it or someone who has done something similar to give me an ideal price.

Good morning sir,

In that case , i will advice you do your proper finding then because our duty is solely we procure and ship for buyers. So we are not in place to determine the price or what the items will be use for after purchase....

Bravo sir

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