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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 2:56pm On May 21, 2016
AZUH:
what is this ?

A coop where chickens are kept which will include also keeping the chicken leg. cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:05pm On May 21, 2016
Miscellaneous:
Okay. The test was conducted for the sole purpose to see how fine aggregate as do coarse aggregate influence the desired strength of concrete. For this purpose, two tests were conducted with one using granite dust as fine aggregate & the other using the popular laterite (sharp sand). You see, before now, there have always been mixed reactions concerning this granite dust but, the below results nipped it in the bud. Now, my findings:

1. The granite dust gave a blending color to the mix as oppose to sharp sand.
2. The granite dust proves very difficult to bond with the mix ( I used trowel for both experiments & I'm certain it is same even with an automated mixer)
3. The desired strength was 25N/mm² but, sharp sand gave me 26N/mm² while granite dust gave 16N/mm²
4. For some reason, I believe the workability of sharp sand is better than granite dust.

Since it was a time limited experiment, I couldn't make a general conclusion but, however, the strength is what really left me dazed.
N:B ==> A mix of 1: 3/2 : 3 ( 4: 6: 9) was used which I believe does not have any detrimental effect on the suppose granite dust. It's just a mix, afterall.

I made the summary as short as I could.


Cc: Abdulwastecx, Egunmogaji , n3xt


OMG! I thought I was going to see some laboratory test report. Reason for your result as follows:


1. The workability of crushed granite fine requires more quantity of water than river sand because of the size and shape
2. Manual mixture
3. Your mix ratio
4. Is the mix properly vibrated to remove air pocket as granite dust will have more air pockets than river sand when not vibrated.
5. Type of test carried out and the mould used for the collection of sample.

In actual sense, granite dust will give higher value than an all-sand concrete mix. It's only recommended where it's economically cheap like and sourcing river sand is difficult. You won't see more people using it in Lagos due to scarcity but you'll see more of it in Ondo, Ogun and some part of Ibadan.

Do you know I got different result from the same mix while using marine board and timber for formwork? Reason: Water loss in timber formwork is higher than marine board formwork.

Brabus

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:27pm On May 21, 2016
AZUH:
@agarawu . Ehen you get mind sha .they used three blocks for my foundation . I want to do landscaping can I bring one block n half up and 11/2 dawn ? Just asking ! It was supposed to be two dawn and one up but the house is very close to road .

This reminds me of the craziness during two-thirds of thirteen era grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:29pm On May 21, 2016
AZUH:
@agarawu . Ehen you get mind sha .t[size=18pt]hey used three blocks for my foundation . I want to do landscaping can I bring one block n half up and 11/2 dawn ? Just asking ! It was supposed to be two dawn and one up but the house is very close to road .[/size]
oga, how many times u go tell us this thing
Anything u like make u do angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:32pm On May 21, 2016
twinskenny:
there are lots of hidden camouflage cameras

good to hear.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:34pm On May 21, 2016
erico2k2:

I dey wait my oga at the top grin grin
oga like u still get Oga ? shocked
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:53pm On May 21, 2016
TLAX:

Haba wetin you do now Hajji?
So you dey reach romance section? i neva see you there before o. grin

mufutau55:

If Skimanski no build one house for me, I no go die... smiley
And nah my village, wey all villagers go know say I don arrive.

Hajji M.

Nah the message above get me 3 days in detention o.
I never been to Romance Forum o, may be time to defect.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:55pm On May 21, 2016
erico2k2:

Bross na lie Ooh.u nor fit abadon ship like that
Mainwhile I wan submit the names of the first batch of noise makers some people get up to 5 monikers inside cuff cuff. grin grin

Abi o. I no fit manage 5 names (monikers) o. They banned me, so I stay home jejely dey do other things.
I don see say "Noise Makers" don increase o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:57pm On May 21, 2016
erico2k2:

Bross bross lol which level grin grin

My brother... nah only one level o. That is the maximum for pooor man o.
I know say in twenty years I go complete the project... no rush rush.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beedam(f): 6:14pm On May 21, 2016
mufutau55:



I never been to Romance Forum o, may be time to defect.

Hajji M.

You will surely be welcomed there as they need "elderly touch" from people like you. wink

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:21pm On May 21, 2016
beedam:

You will surely be welcomed there as they need "elderly touch" from people like you. wink

But Romance nko? I don't think I get that one o. May be I go pickup few there... smiley

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:54pm On May 21, 2016
agarawu23:
oga like u still get Oga ? shocked
Yes oooo. No matter how tall U B.E get person wey tall pass U grin cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 6:56pm On May 21, 2016
mufutau55:


But Romance nko? I don't think I get that one o. May be I go pickup few there... smiley

Hajji M.
baba, na me dey rule that section. Just point one chick for there. "Point and kill" ni grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:56pm On May 21, 2016
mufutau55:


My brother... nah only one level o. That is the maximum for pooor man o.
I know say in twenty years I go complete the project... no rush rush.

Hajji M.
Ahah that nah 4 ur mind but almighty God has other plans grin cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 6:57pm On May 21, 2016
erico2k2:

Yes oooo. No matter how tall U B.E get person wey tall pass U grin cheesy
na so sha
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:58pm On May 21, 2016
agarawu23:
baba, na me dey rule that section. Just point one chick for there. "Point and kill" ni grin
U dis man I Don dey suspect you ohhh. shocked shocked
Nor go point chicken legs ohh grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 7:01pm On May 21, 2016
erico2k2:

U dis man I Don dey suspect you ohhh. shocked shocked
Nor go point chicken legs ohh grin grin
chicken legs? That reminds me of egun chicken poop abi wetin be the name sef grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:17pm On May 21, 2016
agarawu23:
chicken legs? That reminds me of egun chicken poop abi wetin be the name sef grin

I believe that the official name is "Padlock Chicken Coop"

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:22pm On May 21, 2016
While searching for memes to finish of our Mr Azuh I ran into this.

People need to fear God sad

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 7:22pm On May 21, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I believe that the official name is "Padlock Chicken Coop"
the thing dey make me laff eh.....nlders no go kill person cheesy

well, I av gat a name for my unconstructed site already. SMALL HUT grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:03pm On May 21, 2016
Somewhere on the Island of Lagos during the heavy downpour this afternoon. After 5 minutes of continuous rain, water rose above DPC level and we started seeing water coming from the tiled floor.

Big Man, Big Problem. Multi-million Naira Project - No Proper Water Exclusion Strategy


Brabus

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beedam(f): 8:04pm On May 21, 2016
mufutau55:


But Romance nko? I don't think I get that one o. May be I go pickup few there... smiley

Hajji M.

Don't worry, just go there first.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 8:11pm On May 21, 2016
agarawu23:
do I need a formal training that involves pen and paper before I can be a professional in my skill? Capital No. I am already a professional in the field with my experience and daily practice.

I don't know where u reside but If there is any job vacancy in my feild u can tell me and see how i will quickly go about getting the 'paper' to back up my profession (it will cost me just €300 to make the minister incharge here prepare my papers. Ofcus tru back door with my boss) smiley

Certificate is a poo to me if your practical aspect cant speak for the credits in your paper. No be nowadays wey fake and runs full everywhere?

Come here and ask Nigerians that are into fraud business how they all got Mali passport. They all use Mali passport to come into this country and exit here every 3 month to renew their stay. They speak French fluently, have all documents showing they are Mali citizens. Wetin no dey happen nowadays?

Only office jobs will be serious with that poo called certificate. We are talking about construction where what u build down is what we are to judge and not your merits written by MAN. You build a quack house and u are bringing out laws/points from your paper backing the crap u build, like seriously

Olajumoke a bloody illiterate agege bread seller became 'god' with what she has to offer after fame tru ty bello.

A guy ( i cant remember his name) broke record with first class result but nobody look him side to the level that he was nearly homeless before a good samaritan gave him 1m

Compare 1m to jumoke's acheivement and tell me what the world is after. You need to dust your economices text book and understand the different between DEMAND and EXPECTATIONS.

Tho is good to study and have the said papers but it still doesn't make u a professional if you cant defend what you have in your papers.

Mr Azuh house was built by the certificate engineers abi no be so?

All the builders in this section didnt post any certificate before we contact them to build for us. We like what we see and we request for their service lobatan.

Oga, who certificate epp these days?

Cheesux Christ!


I just saw this post now and l am like: Exactly "what message" is he trying to pass across?

Someone here said and l quote: "Old Women always get uneasy when "dry bones" are mentioned in a Proverb" !! grin grin grin grin

I understand why you are "pained" .....l see your "point" even though it is completely at variance and incongruent with LOGIC.

There is a place for "experience only"...... there is also a place for "sound education and experience".

But everyone will agree with me that in "sane societies", you wont even have the OPPROTUNITY to show your experience, if you dont have the REQUISITE, BASIC LEVEL OF "CERTIFICATED EDUCATION".

The "certificate" allows you to show that you have gone through the training/education (since the Requester/Client/Interviewer wont be there when you were undergoing the "education"wink, AFTER which you can/will be given the opportunity to SHOWCASE your EXPERIENCE.

All those examples you cited up there are just a reflection of your "Upbringing and Pedigree".... trust me, it is shambolic. undecided undecided

Serious people. Serious institutions and Serious projects are not handed over to half-baked, ill-trained, uneducated nitwits! You can take that to the bank.

I think you should refer to a Post by @Abdulwastex (some pages back) where-in he itemised succinctly, the differences (and place in the occupational pyramid), of Engineers, Technicians/Technologists and Artisans





Lastpage!

BTW: Mind you, l am not saying uneducated people have no-sense or contribution, l am just saying[b] they have "limitations".[/b].. when it comes to serious construction, unless yo can show me a BRIDGE "designed and built" by your class of "un-certificated, I-go-manage-am-so" Builders.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 8:38pm On May 21, 2016
Miscellaneous:
Okay. The test was conducted for the sole purpose to see how fine aggregate as do coarse aggregate influence the desired strength of concrete. For this purpose, two tests were conducted with one using granite dust as fine aggregate & the other using the popular laterite (sharp sand). You see, before now, there have always been mixed reactions concerning this granite dust but, the below results nipped it in the bud. Now, my findings:

1. The granite dust gave a blending color to the mix as oppose to sharp sand.
2. The granite dust proves very difficult to bond with the mix ( I used trowel for both experiments & I'm certain it is same even with an automated mixer)
3. The desired strength was 25N/mm² but, sharp sand gave me 26N/mm² while granite dust gave 16N/mm²
4. For some reason, I believe the workability of sharp sand is better than granite dust.

Since it was a time limited experiment, I couldn't make a general conclusion but, however, the strength is what really left me dazed.
N:B ==> A mix of 1: 3/2 : 3 ( 4: 6: 12) was used which I believe does not have any detrimental effect on the suppose granite dust. It's just a mix, afterall.

I made the summary as short as I could.


Cc: Abdulwastecx, Egunmogaji , n3xt


Let me point out that

Laterite is NOT the same thing as sharp sand. Laterite is a soil which is rich in iron which gives it a reddish colour while sharp sand is sand which is free from dirt or soil and of angular shapes.

Secondly, on point 3. To conclude on that compressive strenght, i expected that you have done the tests properly. Properly means casting a minimum of 3 standard cubes of 1000cm³ or 3,375cm³ each for granite dust and sharp sand, the average of the compressive strengths taken. Also, the proper test should have compared atleast average compressive strenght at 7days and at 28days not forgetting curing by complete submersion in water.

This way alot of errors should have been eliminated.

Before your experiment is considered, i have to be sure it meets minimum standard since casting just one cube is still an inconclusive result. I have seen where concrete from the same batch had a wide difference in compressive strength. Imagine having a result like 25, 27 and 14N/mm2 on 3 cubes of the same concrete batch. Thats even machine mixed o, not to talk of hand mix that gives alot of consistency errors.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 8:55pm On May 21, 2016
n3xt:


OMG! I thought I was going to see some laboratory test report. Reason for your result as follows:


1. The workability of crushed granite fine requires more quantity of water than river sand because of the size and shape
2. Manual mixture
3. Your mix ratio
4. Is the mix properly vibrated to remove air pocket as granite dust will have more air pockets than river sand when not vibrated.
5. Type of test carried out and the mould used for the collection of sample.

In actual sense, granite dust will give higher value than an all-sand concrete mix. It's only recommended where it's economically cheap like and sourcing river sand is difficult. You won't see more people using it in Lagos due to scarcity but you'll see more of it in Ondo, Ogun and some part of Ibadan.

Do you know I got different result from the same mix while using marine board and timber for formwork? Reason: Water loss in timber formwork is higher than marine board formwork.

Brabus

I can bet, if quality sharp sand is used, that sharp sand would beat granite dust.

There are two qualities of sharp sand that is unbeatable; shapes of individual sand particles and grading (sizes).

In real structural use of concrete, stone (granite) dust is prohibited. Big companies such as JB, Dantata&Sawoe, Setraco etc all have their own quarry that produces this dust but choose to sell it and still buy sharp sand.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 9:21pm On May 21, 2016
lastpage:


Cheesux Christ!


I just saw this post now and l am like: Exactly "what message" is he trying to pass across?

Someone here said and l quote: "Old Women always get uneasy when "dry bones" are mentioned in a Proverb" !! grin grin grin grin

I understand why you are "pained" .....l see your "point" even though it is completely at variance and incongruent with LOGIC.

There is a place for "experience only"...... there is also a place for "sound education and experience".

But everyone will agree with me that in "sane societies", you wont even have the OPPROTUNITY to show your experience, if you dont have the REQUISITE, BASIC LEVEL OF "CERTIFICATED EDUCATION".

The "certificate" allows you to show that you have gone through the training/education (since the Requester/Client/Interviewer wont be there when you were undergoing the "education"wink, AFTER which you can/will be given the opportunity to SHOWCASE your EXPERIENCE.

All those examples you cited up there are just a reflection of your "Upbringing and Pedigree".... trust me, it is shambolic. undecided undecided

Serious people. Serious institutions and Serious projects are not handed over to half-baked, ill-trained, uneducated nitwits! You can take that to the bank.

I think you should refer to a Post by @Abdulwastex (some pages back) where-in he itemised succinctly, the differences (and place in the occupational pyramid), of Engineers, Technicians/Technologists and Artisans





Lastpage!

BTW: Mind you, l am not saying uneducated people have no-sense or contribution, l am just saying[b] they have "limitations".[/b].. when it comes to serious construction, unless yo can show me a BRIDGE "designed and built" by your class of "un-certificated, I-go-manage-am-so" Builders.
pained?
do your post have any impact in my personal life? NO sir!!!
Blow your grammar from now till tomorrow, it doesnt stop my job or reduce my salary cos I don't have 'paper' to show for my skill. Who certificate & grammar epp ?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:34pm On May 21, 2016
adanny01:


I can bet, if quality sharp sand is used, that sharp sand would beat granite dust.

There are two qualities of sharp sand that is unbeatable; shapes of individual sand particles and grading (sizes).

In real structural use of concrete, stone (granite) dust is prohibited. Big companies such as JB, Dantata&Sawoe, Setraco etc all have their own quarry that produces this dust but choose to sell it and still buy sharp sand.

"Quality Sharp Sand" like River Sand. I think those guys (Construction Giants) are doing this to reduce their cost. It's cheaper for JB, Setraco and the likes to buy a dredger and start dredging sand from the whole of Lagos not minding the ecological effect on the land.

I'm ready for a crushed granite fine vs quality sharp sand compressivity test challenge. In terms of cost and strength, I think granite fine will do better than sand for concrete applications.


Brabus
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:42pm On May 21, 2016
agarawu23:
pained?
do your post have any impact in my personal life? NO sir!!!
Blow your grammar from now till tomorrow, it doesnt stop my job or reduce my salary cos I don't have 'paper' to show for my skill. Who certificate & grammar epp ?

the guys grammar almost made me to classify Hon Patrick aka Igodomigodo as a learner

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 9:43pm On May 21, 2016
Ok I know . Someone should tell me what to do or I will just fix it the way I want !!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:47pm On May 21, 2016
AZUH:
Ok I know . Someone should tell me what to do or I will just fix it the way I want !!!

Mate, is that a threat? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:48pm On May 21, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 9:50pm On May 21, 2016
olihilistic:


the guys grammar almost made me to classify Hon Patrick aka Igodomigodo as a learner
you mean our one and only Patrick ? grin

Who grammar don EPP?

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