Empiree:
Not available in lagos?

olumide4christ:


@LASTPAGE.... I'm really learning from you, Brabus and others who have made good contributions on how to resolve the unfortunate situation of Mr. QC1's house. Just like you mentioned earlier, earlier on this thread, I've also asked Mr. Qc1 about the activities/level of involvement of his structural engineer in proposing solutions to the challenging site conditions, [b] but I haven't seen any response on that .
In an ideal situation, Brabus as the contractor shouldn't be the one proffering solutions to the structural challenges of any project... that's the PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY of the structural engineer who designed the structural drawings . If he was involved in the actual construction of the project, then Brabus not doing enough to save the building should not come into question at all; the engineer should be the one being queried and/or sued for professional negligence.
Anyway, this is the reason why we encourage clients to involve the necessary professional consultants on their projects in order to avoid 'STORIES THAT TOUCH".

Also, for the benefit of prospective building clients, I must say that going forward, the choice of land you buy is critical, as can be seen from Mr. Qc1's example. Any construction professional with some level of experience will, on paying a visit to any prospective land, be able to determine from soil characteristics, topography, state of adjacent plots, etc, if such land is cost-effective for construction OR will be problematic in the short or long-run. It was based on my experience with some other people/projects that made me start a thread some months ago on this issue - https://www.nairaland.com/2954604/beware-buying-these-lands-may#43219226 - on which Brabus and some other people made some good contributions.

I do wish Mr. Qc1 a permanent solution to the problem of his building, while we all learn from these experiences.[/b]

a) Swampy land is very expensive to build, if you want to enjoy it.
b.) Dont buy it if you are not ready to do a Soil test and the recommended solutions. You cant cut-corners!
c.) There is a reason they call some people who build solid houses on Swamp, "Olowo'raa" (Rich man of the Swamp! ) If you have the resources, there is no better place to build a house than in Riverine/Swampy area.

babalose:
@brabus...when you take on a build and you advice a client to do something and he refuse. You should always allow the client to sign a document clearly stating that you are excluded from the ramifications of his decision. This will save you from a lot of problems in future.

@qc1....if brabus really adviced you, why did you go further to continue the work without following his advice?

BRABUS, FOR THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T ENSURE THAT THE CLIENT SIGN'S SUCH AN AGREEMENT TO EXONERATE YOU, ALL BLAME POINTS TO YOU. [b]LEGALLY, AS IN THIS CASE...YOU ARE THE BUILDER AND YOU ARE TO BLAM[/b]E

3strikes:



Baba Lastpage, Are you saying make I no pop champagne yet?

N3xt: Sir lastpage, I've received call from Qc1, we will work thing out.
I pray for wisdom and financial resources to tackle the issue once and for all.

#prayfortheclient

lastpage:


Not at all Sir!

Even me sef dey smile softly-softly for here!

I know it means "Baba-jebu" wants to smile at me ..........very soon!

Pls extend the Champagne to your Boy here.






Lastpage!

Edit: I just saw TWO beautiful daughters of Rashidi Yekini on Channels TV, a few minutes ago.
These ladies are super-intelligent and beautiful at the same time!
Ye-King was my "football idol", back then

3strikes:

Baba are you thinking what am thinking? another new wife?

lastpage:



I am sure this question has been dealt with sometime in the past but cant lay my finger on the post.


For me, l like the extra beauty of the Alu-Steptiles.
I know Hajj M used Metcoppo, maybe for cost or/and strength?
Longspan appears too boring on roofs, for me.... but some people like just the simplicity, and it is cheaper!


And please, go and buy a Digital Caliper like my own, so you can measure the exact thickness of what they will sell to you.
Imagine 0.65mm becoming o.45mm when measured?


Let us pass this one to Hajj M.
He is the "official Library and Encyclopaedia" of "Links to past Events".

Just hold on, l trust my Hajj to come up with something good.



Lastpage!

lastpage:


New Wife ke?

if anyone has the type of wonderful and beautiful wife l have, the thought of another 'woman' does not even cross your mind!

After almost two and a half decades together and flenti-flenti pikins, she still looks beautiful and full of life!

Even moreso, she thinks after God, l am next!

My only prayer is just that God gives her long life so l can die before her ....... otherwise, life will be miserable!... because l dont feel like someone who is ready to die soon!

Anyway, if you like New wife......as long as you can work it out with your wife and you can take good care of them, the more...the merrier.
**hides head before some women* say: Gbe'nue soun! **

Only rich people like Hajj M can afford another wife.

Me, na just to "appreciate" beauty and brains... when l see it



Lastpage!

podosci:

I have a report on polysteren facial and its use for building construction . Interested parties should contact me to send it by mail.

Demainman1:
@Abdulwastecx, this polystyrene eh, is it not that foam they use for TV and other electronics packaging? E go break finish nau.

3strikes:



Just messing with you bro. happy wife Happy life

podosci:

I have a report on polysteren facial and its use for building construction . Interested parties should contact me to send it by mail.

selade:
@Lastpage, Hajj, EgunMogaji, n3xt, abdulwastecx

Thanks for your comments. I have narrowed down to Steptiles or Metcoppo because of the beauty. Pls what's the difference between the two (Steptiles and Metcoppo) because they look similar to me.

And what're your recommendations on where to buy? Tower, First Aluminium or the imported ones?

To avoid been sold a different thickness, can I buy directly from the companies or do I have to go through a distributor?

Appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.

lastpage:


Oga Mi on top of High rise!
You will become Minister for Works one day! Your diligence in doing things right, is not going unnoticed.

I want to read this report, like Yesterday.... Please can l have a copy?




Two issues are playing on my mind:

1.) Weather: If those things were made of the White Foam used in Electronics packaging (but l doubt, maybe a more stabilized grade that is thicker, heavier and more stable) .... then it means over a few years, it could actually degrade and pulverise?
How easily replaceable are they, in your build/placement techniques?


2.) Flammability: Chemical properties of this product makes it fall into the category of highly combustible materials (its a petro-chemical by-product).
Now, assume there is a small fire at the base of a building or even the next building ........ do you think my Parapet would not just melt-away from the HEAT, even before the offending house gets burnt?
It wont be funny if they put out the fire from the next house, before any appreciable damage has been done, ...... only to find that the neighbours Polysterene Parapet has melted completely!

What do you think Sir?



Lastpage!

olumide4christ:


Please @Podosci, kindly send the report to my mail - qpc_projects@yahoo.com (1st letter is Q, not G). I'm interested.

Thanks and regards.

selade:
@Lastpage, Hajj, EgunMogaji, n3xt, abdulwastecx

Thanks for your comments. I have narrowed down to Steptiles or Metcoppo because of the beauty. Pls what's the difference between the two (Steptiles and Metcoppo) because they look similar to me.

And what're your recommendations on where to buy? Tower, First Aluminium or the imported ones?

To avoid been sold a different thickness, can I buy directly from the companies or do I have to go through a distributor?

Appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.

podosci:

Lol.
One client once told me the rats in his village are evil, that he would come back home and discover they have finished eaten his polysterene facial
Let me have your mai and i would send you the report

olumide4christ:


[b]Well sir, I beg to differ with you on the bolded part of your statement above. Also note that I am not in any way holding brief for Brabus.

Contractual relationships and obligations are a major part of training for any construction professional - Architect, Quantity Surveyor, Engineer, etc. Based on that knowledge, which every construction professional as mentioned above, inside & outside this forum knows and should concur with, it is a FACT that Brabus can only be found by a court, LEGALLY GUILTY OF PROFESSIONAL NEGLIGENCE IF & ONLY IF:

1) He designed the structural drawings used for the project, in other words, he was a DESIGN & BUILD contractor engaged by Mr. Qc1 to design the drawings and also carry out the construction (some architects and engineers handle projects like these), making use of the DESIGN & BUILD procurement system.

2) He did not carry out the construction according to the structural engineer's drawings, but went ahead to implement something else outside of what has been designed.

3) He used substandard materials and methods, over and against what the structural engineer has instructed in his drawing details/information or written instructions on site.

These are the points that come to mind now, there might be others. Like I have said in previous comments, the structural engineer ought to be involved on the project and when issues arose later, he/she should bear the brunt of the client's fury, not the builder/contractor, except if the builder/contractor is found guilty of the above mentioned points.[/b]

adanny01:


The only saviour in my view is that the law is relaxed in Nigeria.

A builder knows he must work under the supervision of the designer. A builder is someone who is also trained in civil/structural engineering processes so cannot claim ignorance if his work goes bad. Its not just enough for the builder to claim "he adviced" without proof he did. Besides, the client may not be knowledgeable and can claim he didnt understand. The client can instruct the builder to carry out a job the builder knows will fail. That does not absolve the builder from wrong. His case may not be criminal but will be treated as professional negligence or tort.

lastpage:


Whose Job is it to employ a qualified Structural Engineer to design the "STRUCTURES" of their Home..... before giving the Design to a Builder to implement?

In that answer lies your claims?

How are you even sure the Builder cant provide proof that he did 'advice'?
Can you engage "unqualified and uncertified" people to build your house in those climes you are referring to?
Can anyone even enter that site without a protective gear and Hi-Vis, not to talk of working there?
Comparisons have to be "balanced".

This place is not a Law court but believe me, when things get to court, it becomes a different ball-game because our laws here are "Adversarial", meaning "the accused is innocent, unless you the accuser can prove him guilty"! That is, the burden of proof is on the accuser.

In those climes you are talking about, the legal system is not adversarial meaning, the accused is guilty...unless he can prove himself innocent.!

Lets leave the Court out of this matter for now, both parties have decided to work together to resolve the problem.
We all free aggrieved but I am sure both Contractor and Client know they both have fault and contributed to the problem.

Cheers.


Lastpage!

lastpage:

Only rich people like Hajj M can afford another wife.
Me, na just to "appreciate" beauty and brains... when l see it
Lastpage!

mufutau55:


Emi ke! The one wey I put for house now, I never finish am... where I go put another one?
I came from a Polygamy family and I always prayed for God to make me a "One man, one wife" and so far God has answered my prayer.

Hajji M.

selade:
@Lastpage, Hajj, EgunMogaji, n3xt, abdulwastecx
Thanks for your comments. I have narrowed down to Steptiles or Metcoppo because of the beauty. Pls what's the difference between the two (Steptiles and Metcoppo) because they look similar to me.
And what're your recommendations on where to buy? Tower, First Aluminium or the imported ones?
To avoid been sold a different thickness, can I buy directly from the companies or do I have to go through a distributor?
Appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.

lastpage:

Between Polygamy (one man, many wife simultaneously) ... and "Serial Monogamy" (One many and many wife, over his life time... but only one at a time)..
Which one is worse?
Lastpage!

n3xt:
Interesting discussion ongoing here

https://www.nairaland.com/3124333/selfish-nature-road-contractors-nigeria#45922011

EgunMogaji:


Yeah, I read that.

The run off doesn't always have to go to the sides, the road contractor could also do a buried pipe in the middle of the road. This is what I'll propose to the neighbors in my close in the future when it's time for our residential gutter.

So do you know if the home owner has the proper road height or the Road Contractor?

lastpage:


Current price, l dont know.

But l have read on this thread about how even Companies like Tower, First Aluminium and others have reduced the correct thickness, of their products, just like those Petrol marketers reduce the discharge rate of their Fuel Pump!

Wherever you go to buy, preferably at the Company, go with your Digital Caliper, like the one l just took the picture for you right now.
If they are cheating you, at least you will know and bargain price based on that on go for a higher thickness that falls down to your desired thickness.



Lastpage!

mufutau55:


Steptiles and Metcopo are made from the same aluminium, it's just a different style or design.
I bought imported because with the recent price rise, both Tower and First Aluminium are too much for me.
They both want something like N2,300 for 0.55mm Metcoppo and Longspan is about N1,800 per sqm.
So I opted for imported version: Metcoppo N1,700, Steptiles N1,600, Longspan N,1500 from http://www.jonytechaluminium.com/
My brother went directly to their factory. I am not sure if the price has changed now sha...

Hajji M.