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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:51pm On Jun 07, 2016
LASG is busy fixing the jigsaw puzzle. Epe 10 lane connecting Ikorodu and Ijebu Ode is no 2 on the map below. That's exactly the point where it connects to the 4th Mainland Bridge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZvW2mbXox0


#4thMainlandBridge #TheMissingLink #ConnectingTheDots

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:57pm On Jun 07, 2016
Upcoming: The Orange Line (Redemption Camp - Marina)

#WiseInvestors

Baba gabod, this is a dream come true! Right decision made.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:24pm On Jun 07, 2016
@ Twinskenny, please where can I get a very good outdoor aluminium housing?

Thanks.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by t3stm3: 9:56pm On Jun 07, 2016
Has the blue line been completed yet?

n3xt:
Upcoming: The Orange Line (Redemption Camp - Marina)

#WiseInvestors

Baba gabod, this is a dream come true! Right decision made.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:01pm On Jun 07, 2016
t3stm3:
Has the blue line been completed yet?


Almost there. Some stations are been furnished already.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by t3stm3: 10:04pm On Jun 07, 2016
Awesome. Thanks
Where does the the blue line run from/to?
When do you think work will commence on the orange line?
I have been following this for sometime but cant see to get enough info on progress of work.

n3xt:


Almost there. Some stations are been furnished already.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:18pm On Jun 07, 2016
t3stm3:
Awesome. Thanks
Where does the the blue line run from/to?
When do you think work will commence on the orange line?
I have been following this for sometime but cant see to get enough info on progress of work.


I'm not sure when orange line will commence but what I'm definitely sure of is that it's not too distant future because it'll help ease off congestion on the 4th Mainland Bridge.

Follow up LMRT timeline here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Rail_Mass_Transit

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by t3stm3: 10:26pm On Jun 07, 2016
Thanks again. useful info here.
How many stattions does the blue line have? are they all completed and furnished?
Just thinking of key areas to invest in.
n3xt:


I'm not sure when orange line will commence but what I'm definitely sure of is that it's not too distant future because it'll help ease off congestion on the 4th Mainland Bridge.

Follow up LMRT timeline here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Rail_Mass_Transit
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ottersberger(m): 10:30pm On Jun 07, 2016
n3xt:
@ Twinskenny, please where can I get a very good outdoor aluminium housing?

Thanks.

Like this here?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 10:30pm On Jun 07, 2016
agarawu23:
kowope is a Yoruba word and I will split it before giving u full meaning.

Full spelling of kowope is ----> ki -owo- pe which means " make money complete" (in pidgin will be better) grin

**** have you ever looked at something someone called 40k and u hissed mere seeing it....meaning it doesnt want it. Apply #kowope theory grin you will buy the one more better and even cheaper.


**** you went to the market to buy doors for your building and some were tagged 100k while some are 40k. The 40k own share same durability with the one of 100k but they are sweet mouthing for u to enjoy your money because u worked for it. Apply #kowope theory. 100-40= 60. 60k will solve another problem in your life.

**** you needed a house, you searched around the net for houses for sale and you found a choice of yours.......a 3bedroom bungalow selling for 60m becos them tell u say na ajah them build am. Apply #kowope theory grin , you will buy a land close to that ajah and build a duplex and still have enough change to push other things forward.

**** you want to live the king lifestyle and you bought a 45m bed when 20-100k own full market, like seriously to impress who? Bedroom wey visitors no go even see the bed angry apply #kowope theory grin , buy the cheap ones invest with the rest. Even if you are a millionaire, have u asked yourself why dangote keep expanding his investment despite being the richest man in africa? Bill gate can never count his 45m to buy a bed, dangote won't buy such only broke ppl who thinks they are rich buy such. Check them in 15-30 years time, their life won't be the same especially if they have prodigal children.


Its good to enjoy your money but its foolish to spend on thing's that don't worth.

Make i sstop for here.
nicely analysed, u are a very Gud teacher, thumb up man .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:44pm On Jun 07, 2016
t3stm3:
Thanks again. useful info here.
How many stattions does the blue line have? are they all completed and furnished?
Just thinking of key areas to invest in.

Bros, stop thinking! There are lot of areas to invest in and partner with the government on a PPP arrangement (safe and secure investment).

Security is a major one. Lagos needs more hands on deck to tackle insecurity. #1stHandInfo


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Ajah Flyover update: Roundabout sealed up. Motorist now diverted to Alternative Routes at Ikota, Resettlememt Village, and Royal Garden. No thoroughfare at Ajah roundabout again. Not in the next 12 months.
Good time to schedule a visit to the construction yard of the contractor. Let see what the precast elements look like.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 10:46pm On Jun 07, 2016
tevanso:
nicely analysed, u are a very Gud teacher, thumb up man .
teacher ke! Without a certificate? cheesy.

Thanks sir cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:54pm On Jun 07, 2016
ottersberger:


Like this here?


Yes. Thanks, I want something rugged for road surveillance. But I don't know much about the street anymore even though the game still needs me.

Any lead to where I can get this for my Axis cameras in Lagos?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:05pm On Jun 07, 2016
@ Hajji Mufutau55,

Found this old "Nnamdi" job done for a Nairalander in 2014 and I felt I should share it here.

Window in the roof attic by Nnamdi McBasil 08062444363 (Remember to quote 'Bosun' for 5% discount)

#MyNo1Roofer

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 11:06pm On Jun 07, 2016
abdulwastecx:



Very good analysis and taught provoking one at that... The column option is not practicable because in most residential houses columns are spaced at minimum of 3m center to center accros the exterior walls where this roof rest and having it in mind that roof truss are generally spaced at 1.2m center to center, this will leave so many roof truss out of line (unless we are using iron truss).

We can also provide a very thick wall plate to span between these column but this wall plate will be under considerable bending and shear at point where the roof loads act on them, thereby necessitate for need of a very thick wall plate which may be expensive and contribute lots of weight to the building.

Ways to reduce cost is to reduce the section of the concrete of the head course to 4'' instead of the normal 9'' and to use nominal reinforcement like 4 y8 instead of 4y12, the mix ratio can also be reduce
nice input Sir, i envy ur intelligence sir,pls i have a brother who is a student of civil engineering, he needs a place for his industrial training,i will like him to do that under u Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ottersberger(m): 11:10pm On Jun 07, 2016

Yes. Thanks, I want something rugged for road surveillance. But I don't know much about the street anymore even though the game still needs me.

Any lead to where I can get this for my Axis cameras in Lagos?

There are 10's of very good and robust models all over the place here. I have a couple around my house here and they have held up pretty good for 9 years. The problem is, I'm a disaporan nairalander, and you need them in Nigeria.

I believe you can order stateside or from Europe and have it delivered in Nigeria?.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:14pm On Jun 07, 2016
n3xt:
@ Hajji Mufutau55,
Found this old "Nnamdi" job done for a Nairalander in 2014 and I felt I should share it here.

Window in the roof attic by Nnamdi McBasil 08062444363

#MyNo1Roofer

Thank you Brabus.. now I surely remember him. He has been missing here for a while. I will surely keep his number handy. Did you speak to him lately and still in business?

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:16pm On Jun 07, 2016
ottersberger:
There are 10's of very good and robust models all over the place here. I have a couple around my house here and the have held up pretty good for 9 years. The problem is, I'm a disaporan nairalander, and you need them in Nigeria.

I believe you can order stateside or fron Europe and have it delivered in Nigeria?.

You live off campus... OK. I know I'll get it around me. Just not sure of where my old suppliers are located again.

Thanks for the effort. Much appreciated sire.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:17pm On Jun 07, 2016
mufutau55:


Thank you Brabus.. now I surely remember him. He has been missing here for a while. I will surely keep his number handy. Did you speak to him lately and still in business?

Hajji M.

We are doing something together tomorrow. He's still in business.

#MaximumSatisfactionGuaranteed
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:36pm On Jun 07, 2016
Still on burglary proof and fire risk: there is no doubt that "protector" as home feature in Nigeria could be very risky in terms of emergency escape, rescue and evacuation. So all attempts to find alternative solution should be encouraged but despite all the very good ideas being propounded here, I still hold that the floor plan/architectural design has more to do with safe evacuation in times of home fire and emergencies.

Let's use the floor plan pic below to analysis the need for safe evacuation. The plan is for a traditional 4 flat project. Let use the first flat on the right as our case study. When one comes into the flat from the TER, one does not come right into the living area. One will notice a patio area, so one will need to turn left to access the living area proper. The patio is a holding area if there is an emergency. You will notice this area is not cramped or cluttered.

Now if one turns right one accesses the LOBBY leading to the rooms. Also notice that from the LOBBY, one could access the KITCHEN without going through the living room. What this means is that one could either evacuate the flat either through the kitchen or the main door if there is fire deep inside the flat. It also means from the back door into the kitchen, one could access the rooms without going through the living room as is traditional with most Nigerian flat design. Again one could evacuate without going through the living area. So if there is fire in the kitchen, occupants could evacuate safely through the main door; if there is fire in the living room, evacuate through the kitchen or main door; if there is fire in any of the rooms or lobby, evacuate through the kitchen or possibly main door.

Apart from the kitchen, major causes of home fire are overloaded extension cables in the living room and the Electrical Distribution Board [D6]. With our traditional design, the D6 is normally located deep inside the lobby but with this plan, the D6 can be located in the patio area close to the main door so if the D6 is on fire, evacuate through the kitchen. There is also the need for a smoke alarm to be located each in the kitchen, living area and lobby.

Now if the concern is still on the burglary proof; two things can be done. Firstly, for a decent price is to design the window burglary proof to be openable using the one way lock system. See Picture of back door below. The lock system is such that one needs a key to lock the door from the outside and will also need the key to open the door from the outside. But from the inside one doesn't need the key to lock or open the door. Just turn the nob clockwise to lock and anti-clockwise to open even if one has locked the door from the outside.

Or secondly, just don't fret about the window protectors. Design the floor plan for the rooms to include a Juliet balcony like in the Mediterranean. See Pix below. So for the architectural plan posted, any of the windows can be a Juliet Balcony and in times of emergency, use the kitchen or main door or any of the Juliet Balcony. Shikena!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:37pm On Jun 07, 2016
n3xt:

We are doing something together tomorrow. He's still in business.
#MaximumSatisfactionGuaranteed

Ok. Thanks.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:37pm On Jun 07, 2016
Juliet Balcony

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:49pm On Jun 07, 2016
diordaves:
Still on burglary proof and fire risk: there is no doubt that "protector" as home feature in Nigeria could be very risky in terms of emergency escape, rescue and evacuation. So all attempts to find alternative solution should be encouraged but despite all the very good ideas being propounded here, I still hold that the floor plan/architectural design has more to do with safe evacuation in times of home fire and emergencies.

Let's use the floor plan pic below to analysis the need for safe evacuation. The plan is for a traditional 4 flat project. Let use the first flat on the right as our case study. When one comes into the flat from the TER, one does not come right into the living area. One will notice a patio area, so one will need to turn left to access the living area proper. The patio is a holding area if there is an emergency. You will notice this area is not cramped or cluttered.

Now if one turns right one accesses the LOBBY leading to the rooms. Also notice that from the LOBBY, one could access the KITCHEN without going through the living room. What this means is that one could either evacuate the flat either through the kitchen or the main door if there is fire deep inside the flat. It also means from the back door into the kitchen, one could access the rooms without going through the living room as is traditional with most Nigerian flat design. Again one could evacuate without going through the living area. So if there is fire in the kitchen, occupants could evacuate safely through the main door; if there is fire in the living room, evacuate through the kitchen or main door; if there is fire in any of the rooms or lobby, evacuate through the kitchen or possibly main door.

Apart from the kitchen, major causes of home fire are overloaded extension cables in the living room and the Electrical Distribution Board [D6]. With our traditional design, the D6 is normally located deep inside the lobby but with this plan, the D6 can be located in the patio area close to the main door so if the D6 is on fire, evacuate through the kitchen. There is also the need for a smoke alarm to be located each in the kitchen, living area and lobby.

Now if the concern is still on the burglary proof; two things can be done. Firstly, for a decent price is to design the window burglary proof to be openable using the one way lock system. See Picture of back door below. The lock system is such that one needs a key to lock the door from the outside and will also need the key to open the door from the outside. But from the inside one doesn't need the key to lock or open the door. Just turn the nob clockwise to lock and anti-clockwise to open even if one has locked the door from the outside.

Or secondly, just don't fret about the window protectors. Design the floor plan for the rooms to include a Juliet balcony like in the Mediterranean. See Pix below. So for the architectural plan posted, any of the windows can be a Juliet Balcony and in times of emergency, use the kitchen or main door or any of the Juliet Balcony. Shikena!!!

Here's what I have so far for my main build:

1) not going to install window bar until I've exhausted all other options.

2) fire extinguisher in kitchen, courtyard and anteroom. And I'm talking commercial extinguishers not the decorative ones

3) smoke alarm at the entrance to each of the bedrooms.

4) fire house at back and front, commercial one not garden hose

5) co2 sensor in kitchen, 2 main hallways

6) 500 gallon water tank inside the courtyard

7) kitchen ceiling will have fire resistance gypsum board

8 ) if I'm already living full time then no window bar needed cause I'll have at least 3 Doberman pinchers but until then maybe just a Mai guard.

PS: these are replicating some of what I already do now
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:06am On Jun 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Here's what I have so far for my main build:

1) not going to install window bar until I've exhausted all other options.

2) fire extinguisher in kitchen, courtyard and anteroom. And I'm talking commercial extinguishers not the decorative ones

3) smoke alarm at the entrance to each of the bedrooms.

4) fire house at back and front, commercial one not garden hose

5) co2 sensor in kitchen, 2 main hallways

6) 500 gallon water tank inside the courtyard

7) kitchen ceiling will have fire resistance gypsum board

8 ) if I'm already living full time then no window bar needed cause I'll have at least 3 Doberman pinchers but until then maybe just a Mai guard.

PS: these are replicating some of what I already do now


Nice one. The real McCoy; not leaving anything to chance.

I will still think twice about a "naked" window in Nigeria. A "naked" window will mean you can't possibly sleep with the windows open or tilted as we do at night in Nigeria. AC always........carbon footprint. You can't leave open or tilt the window to aerate when no one is home but then there is the Doberman which may not be enough........can be poisoned. I've seen it done. I must admit Nigeria is challenging.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:13am On Jun 08, 2016
diordaves:


Nice one. The real McCoy; not leaving anything to chance.

I will still think twice about a "naked" window in Nigeria. A "naked" window will mean you can't possibly sleep with the windows open or tilted as we do at night in Nigeria. AC always........carbon footprint. You can't leave open or tilt the window to aerate when no one is home but then there is the Doberman which may not be enough........can be poisoned. I've seen it done. I must admit Nigeria is challenging.

These will be trained security dogs that'll only eat from their bowls.

I'm also going through the firearms process now but I need to go for psychiatric exam next in Nigeria grin

You may be right about the no bar window. I'll sit down with one of our aluminum window guys one day to figure it out. There's has to be a way to do this.

This is the company that I'm going to use

https://nest.com/smoke-co-alarm/meet-nest-protect/
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:55am On Jun 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:

Here's what I have so far for my main build:
8 ) if I'm already living full time then no window bar needed cause I'll have at least 3 Doberman pinchers but until then maybe just a Mai guard.

Oga Egungun, there is juju/voodoo/ogungun that will put both the Dobermans and Mai-Guard to sleep o.... ask @Kolashangone.

But my "Asabari - Ogun Orokin Special (Gbefun-gbori)" go make those bad boys sweep my whole compound for many days until I stop them ni o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:56am On Jun 08, 2016
mufutau55:


Oga Egungun, there is juju/voodoo/ogungun that will put both the Dobermans and Mai-Guard to sleep o.... ask Kola.

But my "Asabari - Ogun Orokin Special" go make those bad boys sweep my whole compound for many days until I stop them ni o.

Hajji M.

Hajj, I'm from Ijebu Ode wink

Nuff said.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:58am On Jun 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:

Hajj, I'm from Ijebu Ode wink
Nuff said.

Good. We go dey exchange secrets later...

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 2:02am On Jun 08, 2016
mufutau55:


Oga Egungun, there is juju/voodoo/ogungun that will put both the Dobermans and Mai-Guard to sleep o.... ask @Kolashangone.

But my "Asabari - Ogun Orokin Special (Gbefun-gbori)" go make those bad boys sweep my whole compound for many days until I stop them ni o.

Hajji M.

If l have not seen this, with my own very eyes, l will be a doubting Thomas!

Who needs an iron grill, when a simple broom hung at a corner of the compound is enough to keep stubborn thieves busy, doing the "industrial cleaning", without any Service Level Agreement? grin grin grin


#SayNoToJuuju




Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 2:30am On Jun 08, 2016
lastpage:

If l have not seen this, with my own very eyes, l will be a doubting Thomas!

Who needs an iron grill, when a simple broom hung at a corner of the compound is enough to keep stubborn thieves busy, doing the "industrial cleaning", without any Service Level Agreement? grin grin grin

Lastpage!

Lastpage for President!

LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE! LIKE!

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:37am On Jun 08, 2016
If you know about this product, fire and co2 alarm from Nest, then don't bother reading.

If you don't and you take your families safety crucial then I suggest that you go to their site at Nest.Com to read up.

Here's why I like this product.

* It's technological advanced. Control with your phone, get alarm on your phone, has an app, etc
* You can link many units together, so it will announce and tell you where the fire/smoke is at exactly. You can prerecord an escape route based on where the fire is. So if the fire has blocked the staircase, those upstairs can be told to get out through the upstairs windows without wasting time running to the steps.
* It detects both smoke and carbon dioxide - the real killers. Fire is an after effect, mostly.

Let's take a case study.

I think we've all seen the recent fire accident that killed a family in Ghana.

So let's say they have a Nest installed in the kitchen doorway, and one in each sleeping rooms, the very instant the fire started all the Nest would be communicating to each other and sounding an alarm and called a neighbor by phone.

Minutes count, so it is my opinion that they family would have woken up much more quickly, gathered to a predetermined escape location/route and a neighbor will be waiting for them at the door.

Just a thought.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 2:45am On Jun 08, 2016
lastpage:


If l have not seen this, with my own very eyes, l will be a doubting Thomas!

Who needs an iron grill, when a simple broom hung at a corner of the compound is enough to keep stubborn thieves busy, doing the "industrial cleaning", without any Service Level Agreement? grin grin grin


#SayNoToJuuju




Lastpage!


It doesn't work. I remember sometime in 1993 when some robbers came to house to operate. This was house that we all knew to have brooms, horns and mini calabash hung at the entrance of this house. The big boys operated unabated and left on their own with valuables. In the morning, we all asked ourselves what happened to the brooms and calabash? Why didn't the robbers pick the brooms and sweep as many people always believe?

So go ahead and tell me what you believed happened to the brooms. grin grin

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