We are all human beings hence we are not wired to have the same mind set, opines and perspective.
What sounds utterly preposterous to you might be considered sacrosanct to me.
Christians and Atheists on here feel the need to convince the other on how their respected views is moronic by making fun of eachother, but hey we can do this objectively without having a laugh off the other, the tempers flaring and that hate blistering goes beyond just child play.

I consider myself an Agnostic-atheist, and I respect your choice remaining a Christian, Muslim or whatever as long as you respect mine and not automatically wired to consider me silly based on that.

The tolerance level on this religion board is a serious low, and I see Christians getting hurt and shelved as their sacrosanct beliefs get washed under with a high pressure hose, same goes for Atheists.

Let's build a tolerant society it begins here most of us are in our 20s and 30s, we are the immediate future, of course am not perfect, sometimes I like some post or acknowledge jests made by atheist against Christians because I found it funny, which it was, I wouldn't lie about that, but to what end really?
It's all fun and jokes until some atheist gets lynched after being track down. Am not saying Christians are violent, but the human nature is capable of the darkest of deeds after being overly taunted.

Let's be tolerant, make mature arguments, less tauntings and jest, I was Christian for over two decades before I became what I am, and I needed no ones help seguing, so I believe each and everyone of us would discover the truth if we truly do some soul searching.

However this shouldn't be moderated before some rules springs from the shadows, I believe we are all adults and can differentiate right from wrong objectively, and I am a strong advocate of freedom of expression and speech, so the buck should verywell fall on each and everyone's table.

Life is beautiful, live and let live and see if it doesn't taste as good.

Adios hermanos.

Seun
HardMirror
CoolUsername
johnydon22
sonOfLucifer

My signature speaks for itself.

We are all are like CDs containing different information. Some contain good music,porn, years and years of brainwash while some have been formatted. Yes we can live in peace if we pay less importance to our various belief systems.

But again some those who have been thoroughly brainwash think it is cool to inconvenience others with their beliefs. Take a look at a typical Nigerian street with 20 churches on a block of flats,and you will notice who is disturbing who. These has made taunting of christian(especially) necessary. I'm joking

Johnny 22 i see u o

urahara:
Johnny 22 i see u o

Have u praised lord tomato today?

HardMirror:

Have u praised lord tomato today?

No

Lord tomato there is none like u .

Whether the price of tomato reaches the price of gold i wil forever praise u daddy. I love u so much

dablazor:
We are all human beings hence we are not wired to have the same mind set, opines and perspective.
What sounds utterly preposterous to you might be considered sacrosanct to me.
Christians and Atheists on here feel the need to convince the other on how their respected views is moronic by making fun of eachother, but hey we can do this objectively without having a laugh off the other, the tempers flaring and that hate blistering goes beyond just child play.

I consider myself an Agnostic-atheist, and I respect your choice remaining a Christian, Muslim or whatever as long as you respect mine and not automatically wired to consider me silly based on that.

The tolerance level on this religion board is a serious low, and I see Christians getting hurt and shelved as their sacrosanct beliefs get washed under with a high pressure hose, same goes for Atheists.

Let's build a tolerant society it begins here most of us are in our 20s and 30s, we are the immediate future, of course am not perfect, sometimes I like some post or acknowledge jests made by atheist against Christians because I found it funny, which it was, I wouldn't lie about that, but to what end really?
It's all fun and jokes until some atheist gets lynched after being track down. Am not saying Christians are violent, but the human nature is capable of the darkest of deeds after being overly taunted.

Let's be tolerant, make mature arguments, less tauntings and jest, I was Christian for over two decades before I became what I am, and I needed no ones help seguing, so I believe each and everyone of us would discover the truth if we truly do some soul searching.

However this shouldn't be moderated before some rules springs from the shadows, I believe we are all adults and can differentiate right from wrong objectively, and I am a strong advocate of freedom of expression and speech, so the buck should verywell fall on each and everyone's table.

Life is beautiful, live and let live and see if it doesn't taste as good.

Adios hermanos.

Seun
HardMirror
CoolUsername
johnydon22
sonOfLucifer

I feel you bro.

Don't know if my threads hurt anyone, but I will keep opening them for the fun of it maybe, but I know they could provoke some thoughts in some minds. Wish I knew more atheists when I was struggling with my faith.

urahara:


No

Lord tomato there is none like u .

Whether the price of tomato reaches the price of gold i wil forever praise u daddy. I love u so much

Lord tomato blessed my tongue today with some sweet soft boiled yam this morning. The tomato stew was just wow. Indeed there is none like tomato.

How have you been bro?

HardMirror:

Lord tomato blessed my tongue today with some sweet soft boiled yam this morning. The tomato stew was just wow. Indeed there is none like tomato.

How have you been bro?

Mo wa pa.

I am fine , oga hard mirror .


This one wey u no dey update ur thread again

You are right bro, if you or anyone tracked my activities here on nairaland that person should notice that i stopped engaging in many arguments because debates here has taken a very childish tilt.

Invectives, personal attacks, emotional talks and all round childish squabbles and infantile trolling is the other of the day in the religion section.

That is one of the reasons i stopped engaging in such demeaning squabbles cus it insults the very essence of debates and discussion.

The only theist i enjoy discussing with is dorox, we discuss so well and we teach each other a lot of things without insults or going personal at all, just a good discussion.

If you read my debates or discussion with dorox you won't see two persons (a theist and an atheist ) arguing rather you'll see two individuals hungry for knowledge trying to figure out what is true rather than arguing on who is right.

That is the only type of discussion i can engage in now.

If you read my personal text it says: I am evolving in humility, humanity and intellect but pardon me yet still i am not perfect.

-Humility to let invective posts aimed at me to slide without degrading my intellect to that infantile level.

-humanity to understand we are all humans before any other label and even though i might not respect "personal beliefs" i'll respect and love humans.

-And in intellect in my willingness to listen and learn rather than argue to maintain correctness.

I strongly agree with you my brother, Scepticism is important very important for our intellectual evolution collectively as a specie.

But in a way scepticism is applied in matters of public concern there is tendency to belittle, condescend, to ignore the fact that deluded or not- supporters of superstition and pseudoscience are still humans with feelings who like us are trying to also figure out how the world works and our role in it.

Their ideas mostly are consonants with science but our cultures having not given us all that is needed to drive an objective motive they sorely should not be blamed.
.

Let us always then try to temper our criticism with kind words because none of us comes fully prepared.

urahara:


Mo wa pa.
I am fine , oga hard mirror .

This one wey u no dey update ur thread again

We give glory to God.
You too like gist jare.
Come and be going

johnydon22:
You are right bro, if you or anyone tracked my activities here on nairaland that person should notice that i stopped engaging in many arguments because debates here has taken a very childish tilt.

Invectives, personal attacks, emotional talks and all round childish squabbles and infantile trolling is the other of the day in the religion section.

That is one of the reasons i stopped engaging in such demeaning squabbles cus it insults the very essence of debates and discussion.

The only theist i enjoy discussing with is dorox, we discuss so well and we teach each other a lot of things without insults or going personal at all, just a good discussion.

If you read my debates or discussion with dorox you won't see two persons (a theist and an atheist ) arguing rather you'll see two individuals hungry for knowledge trying to figure out what is true rather than arguing on who is right.

That is the only type of discussion i can engage in now.

If you read my personal text it says: I am evolving in humility, humanity and intellect but pardon me yet still i am not perfect.

-Humility to let invective posts aimed at me to slide without degrading my intellect to that infantile level.

-humanity to understand we are all humans before any other label and even though i might no respect "personal beliefs" i'll respect and love humans.

-And in intellect in my willingness to listen and learn rather than argue to maintain correctness.

I strongly agree with you my brother, Scepticism is important very important for our intellectual evolution collectively as a specie.

But in a way scepticism is applied in matters of public concern there is tendency to belittle, condescend, to ignore the fact that deluded or not- supporters of superstition and pseudoscience are still humans with feelings who like us are trying to also figure out how the world works and our role in it.

Their ideas mostly are consonants with science but our cultures having not given us all that is needed to drive an objective motive they sorely should not be blamed.
.

Let us always then try to temper our criticism with kind words because none of us comes fully prepared.

You are very right. I have a lot of intellectually engaging topics (like the history of religion, the chronology) which is well researched, but I think with the lack of intelligent people on this section, I will rather keep splattering mud with them. They are out to destroy all sensible discussion with childish squabbles. No wahala 2 can play the game

HardMirror:

We give glory to God.

You too like gist jare.

Come and be going

HardMirror:

You are very right. I have a lot of intellectually engaging topics (like the history of religion, the chronology) which is well researched, but I think with the lack of intelligent people on this section, I will rather keep splattering mud with them. They are out to destroy all sensible discussion with childish squabbles. No wahala 2 can play the game

I have had my fun days and i am done with that now, there are certain things i believe within myself that i'm well above now.

I have grown past that.

I keep saying that people are at different levels of both consciousness and intellect, there is a certain stage you reach when all you want is Say your truth and not convince anyone of it.

You begin to realize everyone has their own path and their different pace at learning.

In order words you cannot convince a baby that he should be walking when he's at that stage of crawling, to convince him of that truth is irrelevant.

I have been able to break so many minds from religious bonds through out my stay here, many i know of many more i don't.

But i doubt if one of those my down moments when i degraded myself to the level of obliging people in such infantile personal emotional yarns and invective have i ever being able to help the readers help from such childish posts.

such posts to me now is meaningless and i am well above that now

johnydon22:


I have had my fun days and i am done with that now, there are certain things i believe within myself that i'm well above now.

I have grown past that.

I keep saying that people are at different levels of both consciousness and intellect, there is a certain stage you reach when all you want is Say your truth and not convince anyone of it.

You begin to realize everyone has their own path and their different pace at learning.

In order words you cannot convince a baby that he should be walking when he's at that stage of crawling, to convince him of that truth is irrelevant.

I have been able to break so many minds from religious bonds through out my stay here, many i know of many more i don't.

But i doubt if one of those my down moments when i degraded myself to the level of obliging people in such infantile personal emotional yarns and invective have i ever being able to help the readers help from such childish posts.

such posts to me now is meaningless and i am well above that now

Cool

HardMirror:

I feel you bro.

Don't know if my threads hurt anyone, but I will keep opening them for the fun of it maybe, but I know they could provoke some thoughts in some minds. Wish I knew more atheists when I was struggling with my faith.

From where I am sitting, I do feel your threads hurt a lot of Christians out there, your approach is too bold if am being honest, you approach it using the christian fashion like evangelists.

Am sure a lot of Christian/Muslim converts who are now free thinkers at some point wish they'd their minds liberated sooner, but we are here now, aren't we?
As far as I am concerned, if you're a ardent theist and never feel the need to question your faith and it's various doctrines no matter how ludicrous it sounds, then you are exactly where you are supposed to be, your liberation is nobody's business except you ask for it.

Well all am saying is we tone down on the attacks and mockery, and help those who ask for it, and hold qualitative arguments with the rational ones on the opposite side of our respective beliefs, while avoiding those who are apparently disgusted by our guts.
There is no point brewing hate where we can all be happy despite having way different approach to life, tolerance is all.

Have a good thrust brother.

johnydon22:
You are right bro, if you or anyone tracked my activities here on nairaland that person should notice that i stopped engaging in many arguments because debates here has taken a very childish tilt.

Invectives, personal attacks, emotional talks and all round childish squabbles and infantile trolling is the other of the day in the religion section.

That is one of the reasons i stopped engaging in such demeaning squabbles cus it insults the very essence of debates and discussion.

The only theist i enjoy discussing with is dorox, we discuss so well and we teach each other a lot of things without insults or going personal at all, just a good discussion.

If you read my debates or discussion with dorox you won't see two persons (a theist and an atheist ) arguing rather you'll see two individuals hungry for knowledge trying to figure out what is true rather than arguing on who is right.

That is the only type of discussion i can engage in now.

If you read my personal text it says: I am evolving in humility, humanity and intellect but pardon me yet still i am not perfect.

-Humility to let invective posts aimed at me to slide without degrading my intellect to that infantile level.

-humanity to understand we are all humans before any other label and even though i might not respect "personal beliefs" i'll respect and love humans.

-And in intellect in my willingness to listen and learn rather than argue to maintain correctness.

I strongly agree with you my brother, Scepticism is important very important for our intellectual evolution collectively as a specie.

But in a way scepticism is applied in matters of public concern there is tendency to belittle, condescend, to ignore the fact that deluded or not- supporters of superstition and pseudoscience are still humans with feelings who like us are trying to also figure out how the world works and our role in it.

Their ideas mostly are consonants with science but our cultures having not given us all that is needed to drive an objective motive they sorely should not be blamed.
.

Let us always then try to temper our criticism with kind words because none of us comes fully prepared.

Music to my ears hermano.

I do have these religion arguments with professors in my school, colleagues at work, and one or two pastors but I was really exclusive about it, shying from the fanatics while entertaining the back and forth with the open minded ones, and even at that, once I sense a tiny bit of anger/outburst flared my way during the course, I tone it down and let them feel they won while giving up, am tolerant that way and there isn't a trophy, and it's not a regulated debate where points are being awarded.
I don't at all feel obligated to help liberate minds that aren't asking to be liberated, am not winning souls for some god like the theists do when they on evangelism missions, but most atheist these days are actually on some evangelism missions, and that's distasteful, groundless and ununnecessary.

I am a free thinker today because I decided to ask the question I was scared of asking myself years ago and that's only because I chose to, and each and everyone deserves that.

Am just about people being whatever they want as long as it won't affect me one way or the other, am not responsible for what anyone chooses to believe.

There are enough thought provoking journals out there for any theist who is going through some hard time with their religion, and if they have questions, am sure they know a couple Atheist on this board who can help out with that.

Anyway am glad we on the same page on this.

ifenes:
We are all are like CDs containing different information. Some contain good music,porn, years and years of brainwash while some have been formatted. Yes we can live in peace if we pay less importance to our various belief systems.

But again some those who have been thoroughly brainwash think it is cool to inconvenience others with their beliefs. Take a look at a typical Nigerian street with 20 churches on a block of flats,and you will notice who is disturbing who. These has made taunting of christian(especially) necessary. I'm joking

Well you have a point mano, but well, taunting and making mockery of them isn't the mature reaction is it?
Having multiple church structures in a culdesac begs the need for regulation. Heck, there are religious structures in Europe, the UK, the US, as well but well regulated.

But first we need to be tolerant and respect eachother, and having hatred flying around from making mockery of the other isn't helping that course wouldn't you agree?