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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 12:11pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07:I just come mark my name for register. all am going to say is,if they ever create a greatest midfielders of all time and iniesta no dey that list,it is ultimately useless. edit: who siddon for my seat? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kolade354(m): 12:17pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Pataki:Ibeeere what is sinzu? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:19pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:Don't get me wrong. He's fantastic with lovely technique and vision but never a player who controls the midfield. That's my major point. Ofcourse, he should be among the greatest midfielder because he was an important part of one of the greatest team ever. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:20pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:Don't get me wrong. He's fantastic with lovely technique and has a spectacular vision but never a player who controls the midfield. That's my major point. Ofcourse, he should be among the greatest midfielder because he was an important part of one of the greatest team ever. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 12:22pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
I follow my Oga Nihilist answer PRESENT! dmcdad, afa na |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BarcaBlood: 12:24pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: i mean he gets applauded by rival fans in clasico matches So he had a poor game by his standard, big deal! which top player doesn't have their bad days? d whole team was under par, dey probably under-rated croatia, y single out iniesta? david silva can only wish 2 be lyk iniesta, there z no way he's better. iniesta is d 1 player that can play rubbish 4 club n country 4 d rest of his career and still get applauded, dats how well he's paid his dues |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:29pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
BarcaBlood:The problem I have with Iniesta is since Xavi decline, he's never been up to it against good opposition. He only shows up against average to decent teams nowadays. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BarcaBlood: 12:40pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: am sure u knw he z gettin older too plus, since xavi left, he has helped barca win 4 trophies, played and scored against good opposition (el clasico), so ur assertion is wrong |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 12:40pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: I suspect that you have a pre-compiled list of uninformed assertions and you just pick one or two to publish on here depending on the day of the week. Define the phrase 'control midfield' and then explain how iniesta doesn't do that on a weekly basis 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:47pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
BarcaBlood:You mean by shifting their focus from the midfield to attack? Suarez, Neymar and Messi were more important in the win. Prior to that, it was always Messi, Xavi, and Iniesta. Now, it's Messi, Neymar, Suarez. I think we should be grateful that at Xavi's peak, Suarez and Neymar were absent. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:51pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Nihilist:Controlling the midfield is simply done by spatial awareness. Obviously, Iniesta has all the skills to control the midfield but his spatial awareness isn't up to the level of Xavi's, I.e, ability to picture the pitch and craft it to your taste. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 12:54pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: This isn't the same as Diademk07: So which is it? Is it that Iniesta cannot control the midfield? or that Xavi does it better? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 12:56pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Nihilist:Against poor team, Iniesta's skills, technique and vision would be enough but against good opposition, he falls short. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:06pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
The more reason why I think David Silva should be in the centre to do the controlling because he's quite good at it while Iniesta should be pushed up as an attacking midfielder. Fabrehggas should be no where near the team in the first place. He should be coming in as a sub against tired legs. He's not even better in the defensive aspect than David Silva. Something like this midfield below: ------------Busquets-------- David Silva---------- --------------Iniesta. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:11pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: Vs madrid Iniesta was man of the match http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/34849342 Vs Juventus Iniesta was man of the match So which games are bigger than those |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 1:12pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: You mean the first man EVER to receive the MOTM award in a World Cup final, European Championship final and a Champions League final falls short against good opposition? Are you insane? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:18pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
raumdeuter:For me, he was never man of the match against Juve, Suarez was. And against Madrid, you have Kroos playing as a holding midfielder which he's never is and then the coach proceeded to play the likes of Rodriguez and Modric alongside him. That midfield was imbalanced. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:25pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Nihilist:Never was. Xavi and Sneidjer were better than him at 2010 worldcup final. If Robben hadn't missed the countless of chances Sneidjer created, we wouldn't be talking this. Xavi too, was magnificent but because Inietsa scored the winning lone goal, he became the hero. Same thing happened at the CL final, Suarez, Neymar, Messi were better and 2 of those players did most of the work of the assist Iniesta was credited with. Uefa and Fifa don't dictate what I can see with my eyes, if they did, I would have agreed with them on Messi being deserving of the worldcup golden ball award. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RAKITIC: 1:25pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Dont argue with stu.pid people they will draw you to their level and beat you with experience |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:26pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: You can say for you, You can even say for you Thomas Gravesen was the MOTM But for UEFA he was MOTM in a CL final vs Juventus For La Liga he was MOTM in the el classico. And whats the additional you put there? Was it not Kroos, Rodriguez and Modric midfield that Madrid used to beat Barcelona 3-1 the season before that? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 1:33pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: So it's a coincidence that 2 different soccer bodies in UEFA and FIFA chose iniesta as MOTM on 3 different major occasions? I guess It's a coincidence that Iniesta has provided an assist in 3 different UCL finals too... Useless Iniesta, always falling short against good opposition... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:41pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
raumdeuter:It was end to end stuff in the game. The game was quite open coupled with the fact that Suarez was finding it difficult on the right wing which was where he was deployed in that match before he was later moved to the centre in the course of the season. The match could have gone either way but Madrid attack were more clinical. I still cn't believe my eyes that Iniesta won the man of the match of the CL final which I watched in Nassarawa camp. We were all shouting for Juve to hold Suarez everytime he got on the ball, he was like a beast possessed. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 1:43pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07:Exactly. Meet their valuation or beat it. Aye o le to yen oo |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 1:49pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Nihilist:Uefa nd Fifa are one body! No be That platini fraud and the rest? Even Platini admires Iniesta. I would always say that Iniesta wasn't as good as Sneidjer who created plenty of chances for Robben nor Xavi who looked dominant at the worldcup final. Same at the CL final, Barca attack trio were the catalyst with Suarez being the main one. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 1:56pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Diademk07: thats even one of iniestas strong point...you need to listen to yourself before you type Guardiola remembers fondly coaching Iniesta. "He's so good that it is impossible not to play him. I could see that he was different. Nobody has a better reading of space and time than him http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/barca/guardiola-iniesta-was-impossible-not-play-him-saw-that-was-different-4263782 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 1:57pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
raumdeuter: dont mind him...apart from messi,ive nt seen any other player who steps up in big matches...madrid fans at d bernabeu even applauded him, |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:04pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
dubylhover:Who said Iniesta don't step up in big matches? I said since Xavi decline, he hasn't been able to play at that level against good opposition. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:06pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
raumdeuter:did you see the terrible setup benitez did in that match? the return leg was far balanced.. why not talk about that one? ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:06pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
dubylhover:Yet Xavi gradual decline was what led to PeP failure! Abegi! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
liveLongNprospa: How was this setup different from the one in 2014 under Carlo that beat Barcelona 3-1 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:13pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
How many times had people question the decision of Rooney being awarded man of the match here? It's still baffles me how Fifa could have awarded Iniesta man of the match award after what Sneidjer and Xavi did at the world cup final. Probably because the plan to swap Sneidjer with Iniesta name at ballon dor was already in process. Same at the CL final, we people who were under the canopy at Nasarawa camp (apart from those on the plain ground in another corner) were in favour of Juve and were already shitting in our pant everytime Suarez got on the ball. At first, it was Messi but once we noticed he wasn't on his A game, we didn't really bother about him and shifted our attention to Suarez who was like a man possessed |
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