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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 6:02pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
I feel sorry for those who said they would give him their building to do. Even though they do not mean it. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, not my cup of tea. Yes O, I am still collecting my fake building approval refund, I would not deny that... Should I be apologetic for that ? Absolutely NOT. BTW: Spain vs Italy tomorrow should be a good match. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 6:03pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: ........In the light of Truth! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:07pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
3strikes: Trust me on just one thing (even if you cant trust me on anything else since you dont know me): I will say the TRUTH...... as l see/understand it. I wanted to communicate with Brabus, on the Burglary proof thingy because it was getting frustrating to do here without the "distractions" of his integrity!. He is the FIRST person that l ever tried to communicate with on PM. He acknowledged my Email and since then we have never said a word since that "acknowledgement" behind what you read here. See, l am experienced and smart enough (with all sense of modesty and humility) to know that "There are no permanent friends and there are no permanent enemies". What you do in "secret" today, will be blown open "tomorrow"! All you need to do is look at the way they have been exposing their "private text messages and Chats" for all to read. I am beyond that kind of childish humiliation! My handle here is used by myself and my wife. My Children even read what l post and the eldest will soon graduate as a medical Doctor! So, what do l stand to gain, if at my age, l cannot stand-up for what l believe in? Mind you, l dont claim to ALWAYS be right, l am just as fallible as anyone here. Let me refer you to something: I have been on this site since 2009. I am very "outspoken" and l dont usually talk shyte. I have been approached many times, to become a Moderator. At a time, they even want to do a"personal profile interview" on me.....recently, they even wanted me to be "Coordinator" of a competition! Yet, for like seven years, l have brushed all those aside! U think l am just stewpid or effing Camera-shy? Reflect on that, for a minute! I just dey laugh nii! Brabus or anyone for that matter has Nadda to post about me because "l dont do collabo with anyone" As to how l make my money? You dont wanna walk in my shoes! Let me out it this way: How do you think a man that works in one of the most challenging fields, yet still uses his annual Leave (when l am supposed to be in Bermuda or some other Caribbean resort, chilling like Mad) to SUPERVISE his own build (I hold trowel sometimes, if l need to show my Artisans that" kini Big Deal" ) Does that sound like a man who picks his money on trese or some Dasuki-gate candidate? I am one of the hardest working people Nigeria ever produced... and l am proud of it because "Our motto is: There is Dignity in Labour". If you put your shyte on the floor and ask me to pack it with my bare hands, l will......as long ans you are willing to pay me commensurately. Call me "owo'gbe kii'run" (Shyte money nor dey smell shyte! ). As for "liking Bosun", You missed it by a hundred miles! There is nothing to like about him going by all the controversies! I am just not that emotional about issues: I dont like him and l dont hate him. If he does good, l will praise him, if he does bad, l wil stick it inhis face. But l ALWAYS give everyone a chance, no matter how small, to reform.... if they want to. Egun Baba, said he does not see me giving my work to Brabus! True-dat. (I think the last "Build Contract" he signed with anyone on Nairaland was in 2013. Did anyone sign a New Contract with Brabus in 2015 ? Please let me know. I may not just be aware) I dont need Brabus or any builder right now. What the future holds, l cant say precisely I have said it before that he and Abdulwastecx are on my radar...... but it will be for jobs whose "technical inputs" are certainly beyond my knowledge. I dont pay people for what l can do myself. I am a hands-on, DIY person since l was very small. The first building l did as a boy was my Mum's shop ( 22ft x 16ft, from foundation to Roofing, just me and my Junior Brother ONLY, as Artisans). I was in 'Form 3' back then! Everyone in my street was looking at me like : This Boy has gone Mad! look at "omo Teesha" turning himself to Brikilar! Since then, l have come a long way. But what l never fail to do is LEARN from everyone l come across. To me, everyone has something to offer me. I gain from the most stewpid person on earth because l can separate "the wheat, from the chaff"! Anyway, l dont like talking about myself, lets change the topic please. Everybody is beating me hard about this Brabus thing.... like say l follow-am chop the money he made from those builds! Even my beloved madam Gabby (secretly nii o) sef no cut me slack! Issokay o, dearis God sha. @Everyone that misunderstood my phrase about "Giving him job and going to sleep", l take God beg una; That was not supposed to be a slight! It was said with all "honesty" at "problem identification" which is what l was doing in that post. Forgive me, that was never my intention, even if it comes across as that. That is why l added that "He wont even breath" (Close-marking) if l were to work with him.... but he would do the darn job to my satisfaction. I feel your pain even though l am not the "tears type". When a house has a "bad foundation", it is usually a difficult problem to fix.... short of demolition! I bang my head on the table anytime l look at QC-1's job but my head tells me to stop because "that wont solve the problem"! I understand and accept how everyone feels about me right now..... and l accept responsibility for it. I still repeat, KARMA is a biatch! If you cheat others of their legitimate sweat and think you are smart..... you need to think twice! "Those who destroy others so they can succeed, would have destruction awaiting then, as sentinel, at the point of their success". I am not God but l know and believe that "God is always fair to everyone". Whatever Brabus has sown, so he will reap. It's not a curse but a Prayer..... and that includes me, myself. Brabus needs prayer....... more than curses! may God touch his heart, for good. Lastpage! Gabbytabby: My take is he needs to build his reputation offline and in say 2-3 years when people's mind have cooled then do a show me what you got with references. Learn to read and receive more and write or speak less. Bang-on! I hope he reads this and take it to heart. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 6:12pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
wanaj0: Spot on! How can he even assign his sister who am sure knows nothing about building to supervise multi- million naira projects? If you want to play joker with your money use Brabus Bosun of Nexthome otherwise you better pay attention to what everyone is saying here. Regards! 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:13pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:30pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
wanaj0: You are very right Sir! Thats why l identified that "problem"....in my previous "problem analysis post" ...... (They gave him money to do a job, thinking he was an expert at it (packaging), left him to do the job (standard procedure thus they have no blame) not knowing that he was still just learning on the job, yet he did not find it wise to employ TRAINED and COMPETENT people to help him on the most important part of a building: Foundation!)..... and people thought l was not sympathetic with the Clients Building a house can be challenging, if you encounter a Soil that is "wicked". See what Spyder had to do in Port Harcourt, when he encountered such Soil? He "slowed down", consulted widely and approached house owner for adjustments in building method. Brabus just felt: once l put enough Cement into the foundation and do raft.... e go balance at the end of the day! The result of that "fatal error" is what we are facing today, in Qc-1's case. That is why l always insist that anyone can forage into DIY building but the real "Building Engineers" are those who underwent Training in an academic environment, and then gradually backed it up with "Experience" on the job ....and to make matters worse, he does not realise that he needs to STOP show-casing his own "Chateu De Brabus" house" because the Clients are thinking: This mutherphucker built that house from "part of my money" (even if it was payment for services), yet l am not enjoying my own house! . I feel like slapping him at times but l cant because he is an adult. Just look at Abdul wastecx, when he talks..... you can easily see the difference between him and most nairaland builders. Lastpage! BTW: this Wales Vs. Northern Ireland game is boring. 0 - 0 up till now, ...73mins The earlier Sweden Vs. Poland game was more interesting. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:32pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: Baba ke? I beg o. My eldest is only 2nd year biomed at Stanford, so you senior me wella |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:40pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: Just to let you know that l read the above and you are "On-Point". Especially the bolded part which l find very annoying! Is Brabus really "Yoruba" sef? because l think Yorubas are vast in "nuances" not to "openly display" such insensitivity! Lastpage! BTW: I like young people who make rapid progress in life but l hate it even more, when they fail to show DECORUM. Brabus is making himself such an example. I hope he will starts making changes to his public image. "He lived so fast... and died too young" is what my Nigga Rapper says! Dont take that statement 'literally", ........l do not wish him or anyone death o, NEVER! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vikspring(m): 6:43pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:43pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: No "Seniority" here Sir! Its not[b] "How fast"[/b].... it is about "How well". God will look after them for us. Lastpage! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: Amin. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 6:51pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: (I think the last "Build Contract" he signed with anyone on Nairaland was in 2013. Did anyone sign a New Contract with Brabus in 2015 ? Please let me know. I may not just be aware) Baba, but I gave my project to brabus officially on Jan 12 2015 at around 7:24am CST. What is Karma and how long does it take for Karma to catch up? Do you even know if all this is the Karma you have been writing about? How many more opportunities does Brabus need to prove he is not a QUACK? I see in one of your post you want us to put his family into consideration....is that right? My wife never stop talking about the kind of headache the family went thru cos I chose a wrong builder and at one point I felt I failed them as the head of the household for making that bad choice... btw do you think QC1's family will be happy seeing those pictures? Do you know as a result of this bad experience, my wife doesnt even want to hear about anything real estate investment in Nigeria? Can we blame her? No! Do you know I have spent over 200k fixing the roof of the said project and it is still leaking as we chat? What is happening right now is that KARMA you have been talking about and you know what...this is just a tip of the iceberg. He brought this on himself and his family. We arw still right on one thing. You were not his victim so u wont really understand how the shoe dey pinch. Regards, 3strikes!!! @Agarawu no vex say I no vote o . Na you say my vote no count o. Make I no come dey shoot blanks.. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by wanaj0: 7:05pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: Yes he is an adult BUT he needs help. I don't think he is 'fraudulent'. It is because his pride is NOT allowing him to humble himself and LEARN. If he can enter into partnership with (or even employ) a season engineer, most of the problem he is having will be solved. He seems not to CARE about reputation! Maybe someone need to help him understand how BIG companies go under due to BAD reputation. I hope those he has offended will have the heart to forgive him (forgiveness is selfish). No need carrying negative emotions all around however justifiable you think it is. The anger, bitterness and hatred will do you more harm than good. So please, make una FORGIVE Brabus. No one should give BRABUS any other work until you are sure he is working with a competent engineer! Brabus is NOT an engineer so expecting him to provide engineering judgement is sheer folly! Yes he has interest and passion BUT that does not translate to competency. BRABUS, get an engineer to work with you. Use your skill to position yourself as a project manager. Live the technical/engineering works to those that are trained and competent to do the technical work. It does your reputation and that of your family members no good having your pictures floating around on the internet for the wrong reasons. For those posting private messages online, please desist from such. Let us respect each others privacy and confidentiality. As per QC1, he need to get competent engineers to do an on the spot evaluation of the problem so that they can proffer solution. At this stage, internet solutions no be am. May God bless us all 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
wanaj0: The request is denied. My resolve on this is unwavering. It's not costing me anything, of that I assure you. Brabus did not steal a cent from me but he insulted the artisans on my site. I will forgive him when he tenders a public apology to me and the artisans that worked on my roof. He'll learn a lesson on brand tarnishment when CEO takes a mistep online. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 7:23pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
wanaj0: Thanks for those good write up. Question for you. Are you one of his victims? If Not, then you still wont understand. Easier said than done. You said: For those posting private messages online, please desist from such. Let us respect each others privacy and confidentiality. How will you feel when your builder put all your financial transaction open online for marketing purposes without your consent? Please go to brabus's threads and see how he opened client's yansh....so client told family member say no money and that the build cost just 5mil and when brabus put everything online, and family now see you spent 11mil... how do you explain to those people? Brabus will post your chats and voicenotes in a heart beat just to score cheap points. He started it. But we beat him to his game. We all have our messages saved too. Regards 3strikes!!! 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 7:53pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage:Bros, by nature I am a free thinker! ----- It may be strange to u that that 'message' is only meant but for a few 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 7:57pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
3strikes: Thank you for posting the above. I never knew he got jobs that recent, and flunked it! Now, let me tell you about KARMA! It is also called the "Universal Law of retributive Justice"! The Christian Bible refers to it as "VENGEANCE" (Vengeance is MINE, says the Lord!) Even Yorubas have a name for it: Adaabi I am sure other languages have their own names for it as well, so you see, it is nothing unique to me or new! It strikes when you least expect it. It never forgives! It seeks vengeance with a passion It does not even need the permission of the aggrieved, to take revenge! It takes its revenge without mercy, sometimes in hundreds of folds! If you hear "She died on the day of her house warming, when the house collapsed on her"! If you hear " he just bought the car very brand new, and died in the car accident the following day" If you hear "That was his only child and he just got that fine job, only for him to die in an air-mishap" If you hear very bizarre stories.... and you shout "Oh my Gosh, how can that just happen"? Well, you dont know the HISTORY of what happened! You might even need to dig-back as far as twenty years or even over a generation! It is usually a "Payback for the Evil deeds" we have done in the past. Let your wife put her petition to God of Vengeance. It can be minimized, if the defaulter seeks honest forgiveness and makes restitution ...... but it never forgets completely. I dont like telling "personal stories" but be assured that l have seen it at work.... and l fear God! The only "caveat" as l understand is that "Those who must come to equity (KARMA), must come with clean hands"! I am sure you did not know what l mean, when l said "Brabus needs prayers". He needs to ask for forgiveness and make restitution. "Aadabi'ja ju ogun'lo". I know your "pain" and that of others though my reaction is bound to be different as l can see if from a "3-party point of view", without all the "emotions" involved. Its like "Judge" in a Murder case, he may not shed tears but it does not mean he is not aware of what the victim is going through. His duty is to "apply the law", .......... nothing more, nothing less. I repeat, Brabus needs our prayers! Lastpage! PS: I want to sign-off on this Brabus matter! I am not his Lawyer, he did not employ me as a Lawyer. My posts are "my OPINION as l see things", based on my own "core values and principles" (which can be different to that of others) but l cant go-on and on like there is "something" in it l am benefiting! (I will always say how l feel about issues, notwithstanding.) I have said my piece and l stand on a clear conscience. I pray God will bring succour to the affected Clients, increase their pocket ten fold. I also pray that Brabus will read all these and say to himself: Enough is Enough, No be only me waka come! Help me God to make a new begining. "We will 'get there', not by running faster than our legs can carry us, but by "sure, little, untainted steps, as ordained by the almighty" 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 8:01pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
wanaj0: I m sure someone somewhere would be thinking: "Na Lastpage write this thing using another Moniker"! those places l highlighted are WHY l said he needs prayers! Thank you. Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 8:05pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
I wonder if you were in the shoes of his victims whether you will have this kind of perspective. I am not going to say much. On confidentiality. Lets start with brabus * Puts private emails on the internet to score cheap points. * He lies a lot, so how do you prove who is saying the truth, personally I like things in writing, and if I didnt have all my building plan conversation in the form of a chat, I wonder what would happen today, he would deny it and say the money was for labourers !. And to those who think it is childish, I would like to hear what they would have done to prove what was agreed/promised. * Pictures of clients site without thier permission * Adeekiti put pictures of my site on this site without my permission, I told him about it and he removed it straight away. He can put pictures of the windows he did but not of my building, that was what I told him and we were fine. Whilst I am not been paid to expose Bosun, I feel I owe fellow brothers and sisters a duty to reveal what dealing with Bosun/Nexthome is truly like, especially behind the nice facade packaging. I have met Segemoor as a person, and I deemed him fine enough to recommend he build my friends house, same with my architect, no complaints till date. When 7 or more clients are complaining, then there is a problem. wanaj0: 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 8:11pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
Lastpage. No love lost, no hard feelings. Thanks for voicing your opinions during the building plan fiasco, and to others that contributed positively. He started my build in May 2015, the other building we gave him started in June 2015 also. He did a fence for me in 2013, I was relatively happy with the transaction/cordial relationship at the time, I didnt know he had changed, we kept in touch from 2012/2013, and I only recommended him in 2014 in good faith, only for him to mess up all the 3 builds. lastpage: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by wanaj0: 8:14pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
I am not his victims and I cannot be! Simple reason, I am a chartered engineer so can see a charlatan from afar. Now when people start to post private messages online it shows lack of respect for confidentiality. I know you are hurt, angry and bitter so can understand why you feel you need to post private discussions online. That does not make it RIGHT. It does not speak well of you as a person also. Take that as a brotherly counsel mavverick: 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 8:17pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
I appreciate your advice, however in the cases of a dispute where denials are in place, what would you do ? wanaj0: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:36pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
danowena: I installed this in a house last year. No complaints since then. Good brand. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by danowena: 9:37pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
spyder880:Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 9:39pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
@freeworld23 leave me alone Na . I am contesting for rep or senator not position on nairaland . Leave me abeg . If you want to know people that has family problem check this forum . How person name go be back2sender ? Agarawu ? So better name don finish for this life ? I just want to becareful . I nor wan follow anybody share him sin oh . 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:46pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
AZUH:i owe you a bottle lol |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4nobody4every1: 9:56pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
AZUH:Now this response got me laughing so hard, Nairaland is full of funny characters, Buhahahahahha @AZUH, l officially nominate you as the best com-median of this year 2016, you deserve a standing applause 3 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 9:58pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
lastpage: Even me that manage my build myself, still employs an Engineer to "monitor what l do" so l dont commit blunders. @Lastpage, as per the above bolded, you have said the fact! Please do continue to tell some of your fellow Nairaland clients ooo! We have been saying this all along but people who didn't study anything close to construction in school will want to personally supervise a building project without employing the services of at least 1 construction professional & somehow expect that all will go well. What a mirage! Sometimes I wonder why they also don't try DO-IT-YOURSELF when it comes to health, personally delivering a baby at home instead of going to the maternity, trying to repair a problematic car instead of calling a mechanic, keeping money at home instead of putting it in the bank, etc. It simply beats my imagination! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
olumide4christ: I didn't study anything related to building yet I've built at least 3 houses in the US and two buildings are already standing in Nigeria Of any professionals that I have brought to my site none of them was a QS, because I find that it's unnecessary on the type of build that I am doing. Maybe it's Nigeria, but here in the USA my health is in my hand and not the Doctors. My Doctor is the secondary provider and I am the primary provider. None of my vehicles have ever gone to see a mechanic and my oldest car I've owned is a 1929, I do my own mechanical work. And I also keep a sizable amount of cash and easily convertable to cash assets on hand in my personal safe and not in a bank. Stop trying to justify your profession by demeaning us Do It Yourselfers with an unprofessional comment like that. There's no way a QS would have saved QC1s house from an inept and unqualified so called builder. QC1 error was assuming that things are done here as they are done in North America. Here in Nigeria any sham/fraudster can hang a sign and call himself a professional or an Engineer without anyone batting an eyelid. Many many people have self-built in Nigeria without issues and it's coincidental that when someone trusted someone that calls himself a builder is when shyte hits the fan. You don't need to study building engineering to build a house when you hire a builder. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 10:50pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
olumide4christ: To think that this is coming from a QS who chose to ignore a whatsapp message from a prospective clients reeks of double speak! @olumide4christ (sake),for your sake (your attitude to customer service) I have decided against the patronage of any QS except of course I am on course to build a gigantic structure. Obviously,you will be at the back of the queue if I was to consider engaging the service of one in future. Some "professionals" are not worth patronizing,I am just saying... 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 10:51pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
AZUH: Are you related to Mr cork. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by temi4fash(m): 10:56pm On Jun 25, 2016 |
Good evening great people, Please i need i idea for the kind of ceiling that can be used in a 3 bed room flat. The owner is a medium income earner. POP is too expensive, are there other options available apart from PVC Thanks 1 Like |
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