The Quran makes us to understand that the Torah was good and so also the Injeel.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43).
Here we are told the Torah is good for judgement, meaning nothing is wrong with it.

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47).
Again, we are told here that the Gospel (Injeel) is also good for judgment, meaning nothing is wrong with it.

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71).
Here again, the Quran confirms the the Torah in hands of the Jews and the Gospel in the hands of the Christians are good and they should stand fast by them.

Since the existing Scriptures were good for use even in the time of Muhammad, why the introduction of the Quran if both Yahweh and Allah are the same being that should be worshiped in the same way?

Islam and the quoran is full of hypocrisy and contradictions. Some rodents will now come here and tell us it was because the torah and injeel was 'corrupted' without being able to provide a shred of evidence. One wonders why their allah couldn't just give them the original uncorrupted version but instead had to send a 'prophet' with zero credibility with a book full of contradictions labelled as the quoran.

annunaki2:
Islam and the quoran is full of hypocrisy and contradictions. Some rodents will now come here and tell us it was because the torah and injeel was 'corrupted' without being able to provide a shred of evidence. One wonders why their allah couldn't just give them the original uncorrupted version but instead had to send a 'prophet' with zero credibility with a book full of contradictions labelled as the quoran.

It is unthinkable for Muslims to claim that Torah and Injeel were corrupted in view of what the above quoted verses of the Quran say. Allah would contradict himself if he claims the Torah and Injeel were corrupted as he had once approved them.

Therefore, the question still remains: what need is there for the Quran as allah approved the earlier Scriptures?

Again, there is no doubt that Quran contradicts the beliefs of the Jews and Christians as revealed to them in their Scriptures. How could it be that it was the same God approving their Scriptures and still saying things contrary to what he had earlier revealed for Muslims to follow? Are allah and Yahweh the same Being?

63 views yet no comments coming from the muslims. Since allah approved the ealier Scriptures, telling people to make use of them even at Muhammad's time, it only shows the quran, containing messages that contradict the earlier Scriptures, which were approved, is a deceit and it could not have come from Yahweh, the God of Torah and Injeel. Or why would God contradict himself by sending messages that are contradictory to the earlier approved Scriptures?

When juxtaposed with the earlier Scriptures, it is undoubted that the Quran contains messages that suggest the revealer or speaker is not the God of the Torah and Injeel.

Thank you readers.

why was the injeel revealed when the Torah was okay....

druxy:
why was the injeel revealed when the Torah was okay....

Torah had faults in the way it was practiced and God promised Injeel to correct the faults. Note that it was not the Torah itself that was faulty but the applications.

JesusVoice:
63 views yet no comments coming from the muslims. Since allah approved the ealier Scriptures, telling people to make use of them even at Muhammad's time, it only shows the quran, containing messages that contradict the earlier Scriptures, which were approved, is a deceit and it could not have come from Yahweh, the God of Torah and Injeel. Or why would God contradict himself by sending messages that are contradictory to the earlier approved Scriptures?

When juxtaposed with the earlier Scriptures, it is undoubted that the Quran contains messages that suggest the revealer or speaker is not the God of the Torah and Injeel.

Thank you readers.

Muslims have learn't to ignore you because hardly will there be a debate without recourse to all sort of insults against Allah, Muhammad and even the person who replied. Secondly, with the second poster on this thread, i don't think there will be any sensible discuss. Everything will be "al-taquiyah nonsense" to him

ymdo:
Muslims have learn't to ignore you because hardly will there be a debate without recourse to all sort of insults against Allah, Muhammad and even the person who replied. Secondly, with the second poster on this thread, i don't think there will be any sensible discuss. Everything will be "al-taquiyah nonsense" to him

Who is insulting who?
Why should a reasonable question be ignored?

JesusVoice:


Who is insulting who?
Why should a reasonable question be ignored?

How many Islam versus Christianity thread have you seen come to a reasonable conclusion before? It all ends in both party holding firmly to their argument as being the superior (don't forget the insults too).