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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
ViceAdmiral: Apparently you guys have the 1 for test and evaluation. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
giles14: It's exact same vehicle. A colour change and a change in black tires, and that's it. The Air Force or military as a whole could decide to shed some armour, that's it. We have and build a better vehicle yet we choose to buy from abroad. It's incomprehensible, i can't quite understand the rationale behind the purchase of the Honker, when there is the PF Leopard. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
frumentius: The Reva Scout looks like the OTT Puma was completely plagiarized. The Reva Fav is more like it, however Nigerian companies make similar vehicles, so i really don't see the requirement to import. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 7:02pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
Henry240:dere are similar yes I agree with you, but are there desame I say no. jst lik our igirigi d prototype and the final product are different. compare d outward design and layout of the two vehicles dere are totally different. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
Now this is regional hegemon-like. Here's hoping Nigeria's military's will never be allowed to deteriorate to such levels.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 7:57pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
frumentius:Maybe one day our pathfinders will receive such a vehicle. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 7:58pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
Henry240: 1 THE PRICE : the honkers cound be a second hand that served Polish Army for some time but still look new cos they were never heavilly used the could be bought at very low price. 2 The Honker's off-road performance and reliablity looks better.thus reducing the oprational cost.it looks lighter and better in manuverblity and mobility |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
giles14: Not different, Just a little design change. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
chinese8107: - I spotted one up-close just this week. They are new deliveries. - The Proforce leopard is built on a Land-cruiser chassis, armour can be taken away to reduce weight, improve reliability and manuverability. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 8:47pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 8:48pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
frumentius:for any region or regional organization to progress there must be an hegemon somewhere dictating the state of things. the Warsaw fell with the fall of soviet Russia, we are gradually witnessing the fall of the eu, The EAC fell when Uganda and Tanzania effectively checked Kenyan Hegemony. ecowas would fail without a strong Nigeria. and if ecowas fails, then what hope do we have for regional co-operation in Africa? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
overhypedsteve: I suspect you misunderstood me. It's precisely because Nigeria is a West African hegemon that her military should never again be allowed to deteriorate to the point where troops are jerry-rigging MGs in choppers for want of proper mounts. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 9:07pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
Henry240:www.nairaland.com/attachments/3902650_wp001406_jpeg17133030bcafb6204e75de1ba8f669e3 Is this the pf leopard? looks bad on off-road performance.look at the Approach and Departure Angles Yes armour can be taken away,but if you do that there is nothing different than a land-cuiser pick-up.They would rather use land-cruiser. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:15pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
frumentius: You're making an issue over a non-issue. That MG was only a temporary fix, so as we have seen. None of NAF's available Puma's are rigged with MGs. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
chinese8107: If it isn't used, you'll never be able to ascertain for certain, photos do not tell the full story. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
chinese8107: The PF leopard is also similar to the Saymar from Israel.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 9:43pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
Henry240:if Proforce have to offer "kola" to procurement board to get this beauty into service,make dem do sharpaly |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
chinese8107: Why would that be a problem seeing that Henry wanted it for the air base protection mission currently undertaken by the imported ageing Honker? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
I'm with Henry on this one: assuming there's no massive price difference, base protection vehicles for the Nigerian Air Force ideally should be the local product. Hell, even Poland is phasing out its Honkers. 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 11:41pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
frumentius:thanks for the clarifications. it would cost little improvisation to place that thing on a proper mount. but I believe there is little time for that those choppers were sent straight into the heat of battle from when they arrived. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 3:53am On Jun 30, 2016 |
frumentius: wanting is one thing but testing is another thing. just my guessing.as I said the off-road permormance may not be good many tough tests must be done for a militray vheicle.there are many videos online. eg . how US Army test Humvee (hummer)or Jeep http://m.ok.ru/video/1942750519 http://m.ok.ru/video/75302202 http://m.ok.ru/video/4865393947 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:59am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Im back Bitches! Been celebrating BREXIT with a Vacation in Taiwan I spent yesterday lying on a beach in Hualien while F16s landed right behind me Best day ever 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:05am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Henry240: the point frum was making is that it should never deteriorate to the point of "quick fixes" or of new equipment being rushed into combat |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:22am On Jun 30, 2016 |
nemesis2u: This As you know I spent a year in Korea working for HHI Corruption is real and obvious, But its soft Corruption like nepotism or collusion between the Chaebols (super corporations that hold monopoly over the Korean economy) But like you said - a contract goes out to build a road, maybe you pay some extra "consulting fees" maybe the contract goes to a politicians son in law maybe all sub contracts go to companies owned by the same chaebol.. But the road is still built on time and to spec |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:24am On Jun 30, 2016 |
frumentius: Would love to see a light inf battalion outfitted with these a version with less armament Would be great for OP Corona |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:27am On Jun 30, 2016 |
chinese8107: for AF security around bases it Would be fine |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 7:19am On Jun 30, 2016 |
Henry240:wot a cool design btw d saymar vehicle and the proforce vehicle which one will u go for, putting aside patriotism N lov for your nation. truth be told d pf2 has a poor design |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:27am On Jun 30, 2016 |
[img]http://defence.pk/attachments/img_20160630_194028-jpg.314801/[/img] off topic can anyone identify this missile. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:39am On Jun 30, 2016 |
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3902650_wp001406_jpeg17133030bcafb6204e75de1ba8f669e3 me thinks the vehicle is ok, good all around protection, but i am worried about the ground pressure the tires could be broader or better still another pair of wheels at the back to reduce sinking. i have seen Russians do this to heavier vehicles. definitely doable . an in-house product is better than cheap foreign imports , u can always get your in house manufacturer to upgrade and fix it as many times as u want. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 11:55am On Jun 30, 2016 |
giles14: I don't see much difference between the two apart from the tires. PF2 is the first of it kind from proforce and am sure subsequent once would have a better look with tire replacement for proper off road use. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by realnas(m): 12:02pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
nemesis2u:patriot missile |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:06pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
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