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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 7:12am On Jul 19, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I've seen a video of it being used in Ghana.

As I get more involved with my build I am seeing total wastefulness in how we build.
No big deal. Required special design from the onset because one can't decided to adopt this method anyhow.
It's advantage is actually to reduce the weight if done properly
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Demainman1: 7:27am On Jul 19, 2016
msogunro:
I was doing some research and stumbled upon this. Thought it was interesting so I decided to share it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzhea4ckBAQ

Pounding of yam will not be possible on this type of decking.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:29am On Jul 19, 2016
segcymoor:

No big deal. Required special design from the onset because one can't decided to adopt this method anyhow.
It's advantage is actually to reduce the weight if done properly

That is a combination of in-situ cast foundation cast frame (columns and beam on sloppy terrain) and precast pre stressed rib beam with hollow block former.

It had many advantages like
1. Reduce concrete volume.
2. Faster and neater construction
3. Cheaper since less reinforcement is used and waste is reduce.
4. Better strength of slab since the prestress concrete are produced in the factory where better miss design and wet curing can be used
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:30am On Jul 19, 2016
Demainman1:


Pounding of yam will not be possible on this type of decking.

Pounding of yam should not be done on even our conventional floor system. Most of the floors are not designed to receive vibration effect of pounding.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:57am On Jul 19, 2016
Demainman1:


Pounding of yam will not be possible on this type of decking.

I remembered you asking me the "iru" question in open plan kitchen.

Now, it's "Iyan" question grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by danowena: 8:02am On Jul 19, 2016
abdulwastecx:


Pounding of yam should not be done on even our conventional floor system. Most of the floors are not designed to receive vibration effect of pounding.

Is pounding of yam advised on any decking? The one I detest most is the use of generators on a deck.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Demainman1: 8:13am On Jul 19, 2016
n3xt:


I remembered you asking me the "iru" question in open plan kitchen.

Now, it's "Iyan" question grin grin

I too like food ni รณ grin

Ah, and generator for balcony too. The vibration will eventually bring down that decking.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:09am On Jul 19, 2016
Hello Egun.

In as much as I understand your points, I think you will find that you have more trouble doing something too radical than sticking with the norm. If you wanted to consider solar + 110v, why dont you just have dual as in on grid and then solar as well. At least that's the setup that I know works in the western world, my neighbor has one of those solar panels, he even sells the electricity back to the grid. Ok let me stop there, I know we are not there yet in nija.

What happens if your solar panel battery dies or a component and it will take some weeks to get a replacement from USA ?
You will also be surprised with the choices of electrical fittings in nija, when I went to buy mine, there were a lot of nice options. It just didnt make financial sense for the deployment purpose, most of the stuff they sell in nija comes from China, most of the electrical fittings they sell in Europe, not sure about USA also comes from China.



EgunMogaji:
I'm looking for "intelligent" feedback from those "using or have supported/installed" wholehouse 110 volts in Nigeria.

Please I'm not looking for reasons not to use it but rather the challenges and how it was solved.

Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 9:21am On Jul 19, 2016
n3xt:




Same way you can have some 110V gadgets that are useless cos you are on 220V.


I have the hotel styled 110V/220V Twin Voltage shaver sockets by MK in my baths and couple of universal travel adapters for quick use in other areas (equipment room and the kitchen).

@ bolded, how can that be useless tho. Alot of folks use 110 home appliances here, purchased my TV and home theatre system off Amazon , and one 500w voltage converter took care of that.

The "SAFE" use of dual voltage shaver sockets is very limited, the included transformer is designed to cater for very small loads like shavers, clippers etc.....
You canno't miss the inscription "for shaver only" usually printed on the box or socket itself. They provide that information for a good reason.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NLresidentQS(m): 9:52am On Jul 19, 2016
Ehmm Good people please I need help here (a friend asked....)

Can I use raking columns as part of structural frame or are they just architectural components. If possible, how do I approach the design?

Thank you. E seun.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 10:11am On Jul 19, 2016
AZUH:
Starting from @egunmojagi , mavverick and the rest !! Please this forum is not for EFCC or to track defaulters' if you know you where duped go to the nearest police station and report 'let peace rain !!! Please I need more pictures ' I want to start correcting my chicken legs pillers .

You mean you still haven't corrected that 'chicken legs pillers'?. So, which updated picture did you show us the last time?. You better go and correct it before it turns to 'cricket legs pillers'. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:21am On Jul 19, 2016
allCopacetic:

@ bolded, how can that be useless tho. Alot of folks use 110 home appliances here, purchased my TV and home theatre system off Amazon , and one 500w voltage converter took care of that.

The "SAFE" use of dual voltage shaver sockets is very limited, the included transformer is designed to cater for very small loads like shavers, clippers etc.....
You canno't miss the inscription "for shaver only" usually printed on the box or socket itself. They provide that information for a good reason.

I believe you understand what I'm implying by saying the 110V devices/gadgets will be useless if the setup is not properly planned. Been an electrical man, you won't see any biggie in having step down transformers in between your device and your mains but not for a novice like me. I dread that setup like hell cos of the kids.

There are too many risk with the setup (mismatch, clumsiness, risk of electrical shock etc) even though many people are using it. So, a clearly marked socket is perfect for me.
And a simple travel dual voltage converter in critical areas will do it for me.

If possible, a step down transformer from the mains to clearly marked 110V sockets in each area of interest will do the magic for me like they do in the multinational companies. What do you think?

Bros, there are so many stuffs I see around, and found very useful but choose not to get cos of the need for a step down converter. In my designs, I try as much as possible I eliminate possible point of failures. Clumsy wiring is one of those things I dread so much.

I'll rather have a mix of the two voltage planned into my build than to keep buying a transformer every time I have a new 110V device.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 10:24am On Jul 19, 2016
Why don't we just buy gadget with 220? I believe not all USA appliances uses 110v. When u are in Rome....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Demainman1: 10:44am On Jul 19, 2016
If it ain't broken, don't fix it. 220V is OK for me. I no dey live for USA. Na Naija I dey. wink

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:46am On Jul 19, 2016
n3xt:


I believe you understand what I'm implying by saying the 110V devices/gadgets will be useless if the setup is not properly planned. Been an electrical man, you won't see any biggie in having step down transformers in between your device and your mains but not for a novice like me. I dread that setup like hell cos of the kids.

There are too many risk with the setup (mismatch, clumsiness, risk of electrical shock etc) even though many people are using it. So, a clearly marked socket is perfect for me.
And a simple travel dual voltage converter in critical areas will do it for me.

If possible, a step down transformer from the mains to clearly marked 110V sockets in each area of interest will do the magic for me like they do in the multinational companies. What do you think?

Bros, there are so many stuffs I see around, and found very useful but choose not to get cos of the need for a step down converter. In my designs, I try as much as possible I eliminate possible point of failures. Clumsy wiring is one of those things I dread so much.

I'll rather have a mix of the two voltage planned into my build than to keep buying a transformer every time I have a new 110V device.

You are right boss!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:50am On Jul 19, 2016
twinskenny:
Why don't we just buy gadget with 220? I believe not all USA appliances uses 110v. When u are in Rome....

Yes, you're right we should behave as Romans while in Rome.

For a build that is owned by a diasporan who's in love in good gadgets and gears, having such a setup that support both won't be a bad idea except you'll be suggesting that the client should get completely new devices that support 220V. And for what reason?

Shavers, Clippers, Computers, Game Gears, Mobile Printers etc are personal stuffs you may not need to be buying every time. So a system that supports what you're already used to won't be a bad idea. Me thinks undecided

Even if I live in Antartica and I'm building in Nigeria, I still wanna be able to use my 110V mobile printer without extra attachments. Likewise my business allies without having to go haywire looking for an adapter.
That's why it is called "Home" in the first place.

Simple things cut it for me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 11:17am On Jul 19, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 11:23am On Jul 19, 2016
Demainman1:


Pounding of yam will not be possible on this type of decking.

Then go for poundo yam. grin grin

Although I love pounded yam, using this flooring system would not be a problem for us because we don't make pounded yam. Its too much work for a few minutes of satisfaction.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:24am On Jul 19, 2016
diordaves:


So the advantages are just personal and not global......you are familiar with 110 grid but the cost of that familiarity is the simplicity you've forgone. Just on academic note since you've made up your mind, this whole build is a retirement end point. I'm not sure I will want to complicate my retirement contraption; I will keep it functional, simple and in sync with what's obtainable locally for there will be complications and pockets of inconvenience. You cannot swim against the tide long term without cost and complication.


It's a private residence and I have no interest in what's available locally as in 220v items. None.

Let me know if you think of other stuff.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 11:28am On Jul 19, 2016
abdulwastecx:


That is a combination of in-situ cast foundation cast frame (columns and beam on sloppy terrain) and precast pre stressed rib beam with hollow block former.

It had many advantages like
1. Reduce concrete volume.
2. Faster and neater construction
3. Cheaper since less reinforcement is used and waste is reduce.
4. Better strength of slab since the prestress concrete are produced in the factory where better miss design and wet curing can be used

Can you explain the "pre-stress test" and also why wet curing can't be done on the current method of building a deck?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:32am On Jul 19, 2016
twinskenny:
Why don't we just buy gadget with 220? I believe not all USA appliances uses 110v. When u are in Rome....

The only exception are hvac units, clothes dryers, etc

The expression of behaving like romans when in Rome is limiting.

We have little Saigon, little Tokyo, Chinatown, Russia district here. Clearly those folks want the feel of home.

Not trying to convince folks to do 110v, just trying to have a conversation so that I can be more prepared.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by msogunro: 11:32am On Jul 19, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I've seen a video of it being used in Ghana.

As I get more involved with my build I am seeing total wastefulness in how we build.

Do share. Maybe someone reaching the building stage soon can benefit.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:40am On Jul 19, 2016
mavverick:
Hello Egun.

In as much as I understand your points, I think you will find that you have more trouble doing something too radical than sticking with the norm. If you wanted to consider solar + 110v, why dont you just have dual as in on grid and then solar as well. At least that's the setup that I know works in the western world, my neighbor has one of those solar panels, he even sells the electricity back to the grid. Ok let me stop there, I know we are not there yet in nija.

What happens if your solar panel battery dies or a component and it will take some weeks to get a replacement from USA ?
You will also be surprised with the choices of electrical fittings in nija, when I went to buy mine, there were a lot of nice options. It just didnt make financial sense for the deployment purpose, most of the stuff they sell in nija comes from China, most of the electrical fittings they sell in Europe, not sure about USA also comes from China.


My oga, everything is made in China now grin

But they have different lines of quality in their production.

I have many friends and coworkers that are living totally off grid and it's a global move which I'm hoping to become part of.

My backup plan is a propane powered generator that will recharges batteries on cloudy days and or supply power to garage lift when in use.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:45am On Jul 19, 2016
danowena:


Is pounding of yam advised on any decking? The one I detest most is the use of generators on a deck.

I watched a show on a cantilevered nightclub high atop a skyscraper casino.

The engineers actually specified the type of music that can be played so as to not cause a failure.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:53am On Jul 19, 2016
msogunro:


Can you explain the "pre-stress test" and also why wet curing can't be done on the current method of building a deck?


Wet curing is what we currently use in Nigeria. It's the current method. He's just saying that the method is still applicable to the aforementioned process. He will explain better.

@EgunMogaji In all, a man wants what a man wants. I would av also said you should have a combination of the two but the catch is that you do not plan to use NEPA light AT ALL. And all your household gadgets will be coming from there.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:58am On Jul 19, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:07pm On Jul 19, 2016
NLresidentQS:
Ehmm Good people please I need help here (a friend asked....)

Can I use raking columns as part of structural frame or are they just architectural components. If possible, how do I approach the design?

Thank you. E seun.

They can be used as part of structural frame just as precast / pre-stressed beams, girders etc.. It all depends on who is designing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ottersberger(m): 12:11pm On Jul 19, 2016
Ahhhh!. See, Learning has commenced. Like Germans will say, "Geht doch".

My thank you goes to everyone who sued for common sense to return where it took a hiatus, and to the gladiators and sparing partners who it appears have sheathed their swords.

If I catch anybody wey wan disturb dis peace again heh, him go first Azuh enter market unclad.

Oga Mufutau, na lie o, intention denied. Oga you know say we be small pikin. We need you to continue to add stability to the rocking boat. Your contribution to this forum and thread is recognised but if you gotta do this. Anyway, reconsider if you can.

@Egunmogaji, I hate the look of those Uk/9ja style sockets as much as you do. Cheap plastic china wares. However, you can pick up decent continental sockets, switches and allied accessoires here for dirt money.

All you gotta do is hop on a Lufthansa Airbus on the next home run ( yea, I know Delta and United are direct), and spend a couple of days in frankfurt. A short trip to any one of our Baumarkt eg. Hornbach, Obi, Hagebau and Toom, will make up for your trouble. You'll enjoy our hospitality and the good old German lager beer and Sauerkraut smiley.

Let's keep learning gentlemen.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:55pm On Jul 19, 2016
ottersberger:
Ahhhh!. See, Learning has commenced. Like Germans will say, "Geht doch".

My thank you goes to everyone who sued for common sense to return where it took a hiatus, and to the gladiators and sparing partners who it appears have sheathed their swords.

If I catch anybody wey wan disturb dis peace again heh, him go first Azuh enter market unclad.

Oga Mufutau, na lie o, intention denied. Oga you know say we be small pikin. We need you to continue to add stability to the rocking boat. Your contribution to this forum and thread is recognised but if you gotta do this. Anyway, reconsider if you can.

@Egunmogaji, I hate the look of those Uk/9ja style sockets as much as you do. Cheap plastic china wares. However, you can pick up decent continental sockets, switches and allied accessoires here for dirt money.

All you gotta do is hop on a Lufthansa Airbus on the next home run ( yea, I know Delta and United is direct), and spend a couple of days in frankfurt. A short trip to any one of our Baumarkt eg. Hornbach, Obi, Hagebau and Toom, will make up for your trouble. You'll enjoy our hospitality and the good old German lager beer and Sauerkraut smiley.

Let's keep learning gentlemen.

Those look good, very good actually.

Unfortunately United, my airline of choice, stopped direct flight to Lagos. Lufthansa is their bed partner so I have no choice but to be cattled through Europe. Again angry

I think I was born a german in a previous life. I've cycled about 20 BMWs through the fleet. Starting from BMW 1600, 2002s, Bavarias, etc and the bikes too. A dearth of Mercedes and Audi but my heart belongs to BMW. One of my bucket list is to pick up a brand new BMW from the factory in Munich and do an european tour. One day cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ottersberger(m): 1:06pm On Jul 19, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Those look good, very good actually.

Unfortunately United, my airline of choice, stopped direct flight to Lagos. Lufthansa is their bed partner so I have no choice but to be cattled through Europe. Again angry

I think I was born a german in a previous life. I've cycled about 20 BMWs through the fleet. Starting from BMW 1600, 2002s, Bavarias, etc and the bikes too. A dearth of Mercedes and Audi but my heart belongs to BMW. One of my bucket list is to pick up a brand new BMW from the factory in Munich and do an european tour. One day cheesy

My brother, life's too short to not avail yourself of the little perks it offers. You should definitely fulfil that dream for yourself as I have.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 1:15pm On Jul 19, 2016
The other day, during lunch I stumbled upon these guys who were laying what we call interlocking stones, and as I stepped on it, it felt very strong and sturdy, in fact this is what is being used for what we call cobbled streets, they can last for 100's of years with little maintenance. Stopping by, I was very happy since I was planning on using interlock as well, and I stopped by to ask them what the mix ratio was or if they were doing anything special, to my amazement the guy supervising the work said that this is how it comes from China.

He said its granite stones that has been cut into those shapes, I could not believe it and the fact that it was coming from China. sad



I also noticed how they did the manholes ets, its metal like it is in most places in the UK, and can be lifted up easily for access.


Why dont we have something like this in nija ? Is there anything stopping the use of such ?

The breaking of ground or removing interlocking, I dont think belongs to the modern era.



I am also curious about the stones, do we have such in Nigeria ? I know we have huge granite deposits in some parts of Nigeria, any reason why we cant have something like this in Nigeria, not imported though.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Demainman1: 1:31pm On Jul 19, 2016
To the importers, can we just import this cobble stones from China just like they do in UK. I'm sure it will be cheaper.

Pls, no fake o.

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