Demainman1:
To the importers, can we just import this cobble stones from China just like they do in UK. I'm sure it will be cheaper.

Pls, no fake o.

I'm sure you can import anything that's not on the prohibited schedule.

The problem is, in Nigeria, we love the word cheap. I'm yet to hear that word anywhere as much as I have heared at home. We seem to have problem distinguishing between cheap and value.

China have any quality you desire. You only get what you're willing to pay for, and our people usually opt for cheap, thus inferior quality.

My pain is, they will mouth praise it to high heavens knowing fully well they're lying.

Actually interested to know if such raw material exist in Nigeria, if its imported then no value to me, as I personally would not buy such if it was imported.

ottersberger:


I'm sure you can import anything that's not on the prohibited schedule.

The problem is, in Nigeria, we love the word cheap. I'm yet to hear that word anywhere as much as I have heared at home. We seem to have problem distinguishing between cheap and value.

China have any quality you desire. You only get what you're willing to pay for, and our people usually opt for cheap.

msogunro:


Can you explain the "pre-stress test" and also why wet curing can't be done on the current method of building a deck?

I mean pre stressed concrete members or beam. The rib beams are pre stressed or pre tensioned members. Pre stressed or pre tensioned beam are produce in the factory under some simple conditions. The principle behind it is using a strands or high steal bars, which are stretched to certain limit within a formwork. This form is then cast to have a beam with high tensioned bar.

The major difference between this rib beam and ordinary beam, is in appearance and mode of load transfer.
These pre tensioned or pre stress beams look curve or chamber when leaving the factor and built up extra compressive stress at the bottom Fibre with high tensile stress along the top fibre, without the need to carry it's self weight. When the expected imposed load during the service life are imposed, it normalize back to to the neutral axis. A sketch below should help.

What is wet curing : wet curing is to immersed a reinforced concrete in container of water after it has set to gain strength over some period of time. This is different from dry curing which involved spraying of water to reinforced concrete to make it gain more strength.
Wet curing is possible under control concrete production like in the lab or pre cast factory but not possible for in-situ cast concrete on a major building construction

Prestressed concrete is a method for overcoming concrete's natural weakness in tension . It is a material that has the characteristics of high strength concrete in compression and high ductile strength steel for tension. The loss in material strength due to stressing can be computed and lies at the stressed concrete shape. The bending shape should be opposite of the applied force it will service. It can be used to produce beams , floors or bridges with a longer span than is practical with ordinary reinforced concrete. It is often used in commercial and residential construction as a foundation slab. Prestressing tendons (generally of high tensile strength steel cable or rods ) are used to provide a clamping load which produces a compressive stress that balances the tensile stress that the concrete compression member would otherwise experience due to a bending load. Traditional reinforced concrete is based on the use of steel reinforcement bars, rebars, inside poured concrete. Prestressing can be accomplished in three ways: pre-tensioned concrete, and bonded or unbonded post-

ottersberger:
Ahhhh!. See, Learning has commenced. Like Germans will say, "Geht doch".

My thank you goes to everyone who sued for common sense to return where it took a hiatus, and to the gladiators and sparing partners who it appears have sheathed their swords.

If I catch anybody wey wan disturb dis peace again heh, him go first Azuh enter market unclad.

Oga Mufutau, na lie o, intention denied. Oga you know say we be small pikin. We need you to continue to add stability to the rocking boat. Your contribution to this forum and thread is recognised but if you gotta do this. Anyway, reconsider if you can.

@Egunmogaji, I hate the look of those Uk/9ja style sockets as much as you do. Cheap plastic china wares. However, you can pick up decent continental sockets, switches and allied accessoires here for dirt money.

All you gotta do is hop on a Lufthansa Airbus on the next home run ( yea, I know Delta and United are direct), and spend a couple of days in frankfurt. A short trip to any one of our Baumarkt eg. Hornbach, Obi, Hagebau and Toom, will make up for your trouble. You'll enjoy our hospitality and the good old German lager beer and Sauerkraut .

Let's keep learning gentlemen.

Bia. Na U dey Dis UK switches

Chey see wetin we done cause
Ladies and gentlemen we are now unto page 419 on this thread clap 4 ourselves
I have a new note book to write new list of noise makers
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Last do our best to discourage advanced fee fraudsters and forgery.

erico2k2:
C hey see wetin we done cause
Ladies and gentlemen we are now unto page 419 on this thread clap 4 ourselves
I have a new note book to write new list of noise makers
.

erico2k2:

Bia. Na U dey Dis UK switches

His majesty, no vex abeg. You for tell me say your name na wales

I got 8 "likes" on my post and no "shares" which means majority carry the vote.

Attention! Attention!! Attention!!

Sir's and ma's In this house, the topic of this thread says DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ABOUT BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. therefore any other things should be discussed here https://www.nairaland.com/3038050/review-bash-praise-clients-builders

If you have problem with any Builder or anyone, they all have threads where u can call them out. Please, this thread should serve its purpose. Thank u.

We want to enjoy our beautiful thread and trolls aren't welcomed anymore.

A first warning will be giving to anyone that's trying to spam or troll this thread before I call the mod for him or her.

Let's respect ourselves and show sign of maturity cos I blv everyone here is matured.

Cc mynd44 lawyer pls help us give anybody that will be reported from this thread 3 months ban. Thank you.

n3xt:


There are too many risk with the setup (mismatch, clumsiness, risk of electrical shock etc)


And a simple travel dual voltage converter in critical areas will do it for me.

If possible, a step down transformer from the mains to clearly marked 110V sockets in each area of interest will do the magic for me like they do in the multinational companies. What do you think?

the kind i use is like any regular stabilizer, i dont see the risks you speak of, infact that is the only thing between the mains and my electronics, no stabilizers or TV guard or whatever, and it saved me recently when there was some power surge (My neighbuor lost his TV and i lost my laptop charger which was on 220).
As seen below, i have a small power brick with only two flat pin outlets one for the TV one for sound. and it stays that way, year in year out. its not like its something that is plugged and unplugged /moved around the house

you're taking about kids and talking about "clearly labelled"..? that's where the proper mismatching is even likelier to happen.

A travel voltage converter is still a voltage converter na

Other than electronics and maybe a refrigerator or freezer, which are usually pretty much fixed in location, i dont really see much stuff i would go out of my way to get a US version of, so the thought of wiring seperate sockets for 110 and 220 wouldnt be worth it to me.


Now away from that, I am a very meticulous and deliberate person.... before i take any serious decisions about what to buy and where to buy, i do alot of research. I'm not the type to just waltz off and order som shyt online jst to earn the right to say "I bought it in America"

For those wondering...why the heck would you go through the trouble of shipping an ordinary TV and home theater system all the way from the U.S when there are dealers and representatives of these brands/companies here in Nigeria.

Here are a few Big reasons

During the course of my small research i found out that even within the US, samsung TVs of the exact same model were carrying different panels.... sometimes from a completely different brand, which is a very serious implication because "The Panel' is "The TV" ...and the differnce in quality was quite substantial. So what i did was search until i made sure i found one that had the Samsung panel
read the "top critical review" in the review link in DETAIL to understand. or just google "samsung tv different panels" . This is not only a samsung thing by the way.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN32EH5000-32-Inch-1080p-Model/product-reviews/B0071O4ETQ

so if in the US this is the case, you can imagine what obtains here. how many people have bought a TV and wondered what panel was in it.
I also found out that there were other technical spec differences...for instance for the Series 5 TV i bought then in 2014, the North American models had a CMR (clear motion rate) of 120, while that for the Africa & South-Asia market had a CMR of 60, ( i believe its been updated to 100 now) and i'm talking about same model number, same size, same appearance same everything. this affects the quality of viewing when the objects on the screen are fast-moving

Big brands have different plants in different parts of the world to cater for different markets and i can categorically tell you that what comes out of many of these plants is never identical.... this extends to phones, cars, and the rest. Go to japan and buy any Sony product, then come home here and buy the same model and tell me what you discover.
To service Africa, most of these big brands like sony, Samsung, even Schneider outsource their stock and logistics from south asia, that's why you'll notice most of thier representatives are Lebanese, Indians etc.
So TV is not TV, even though its coming from the same Brand. We most likely wont notice the differences because you're not comparing side by side.
I also bought the TV on sale at the time for about 25% off, and the home theatre for about half the retail price, manufacturer refurbished , came almost brand new with the box. most of the items/accessories still in wraps. Many "manufacturer refurbished goods are not necessarily damaged and repaired goods, most are items that people buy and return for reasons as simple as wanting a bigger or smaller option or not liking the user interface. So all in all i spent less and got an all round better value even after shipping.

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I think the standard issue main breaker panels that I've seen on here is either D6 or D8,

Can someone that's bought one recently share the details with me such as

Number of circuits
Number of spaces
Number of Amps
Price

Thanks.

KolaShangOne:


Wet curing is what we currently use in Nigeria. It's the current method. He's just saying that the method is still applicable to the aforementioned process. He will explain better.

@EgunMogaji In all, a man wants what a man wants. I would av also said you should have a combination of the two but the catch is that you do not plan to use NEPA light AT ALL. And all your household gadgets will be coming from there.

The beauty of 110v is that you can combine two legs to make 220v right there in the breaker box.

It's that simple.

allCopacetic:


the kind i use is like any regular stabilizer, i dont see the risks you speak of, infact that is the only thing between the mains and my electronics, no stabilizers or TV guard or whatever, and it saved me recently when there was some power surge (My neighbuor lost his TV and i lost my laptop charger which was on 220).
As seen below, i have a small power brick with only two flat pin outlets one for the TV one for sound. and it stays that way, year in year out. its not like its something that is plugged and unplugged /moved around the house

you're taking about kids and talking about "clearly labelled"..? that's where the proper mismatching is even likelier to happen.

A travel voltage converter is still a voltage converter na

Other than electronics and maybe a refrigerator or freezer, which are usually pretty much fixed in location, i dont really see much stuff i would go out of my way to get a US version of, so the thought of wiring seperate sockets for 110 and 220 wouldnt be worth it to me.


Now away from that, I am a very meticulous and deliberate person.... before i take any serious decisions about what to buy and where to buy, i do alot of research. I'm not the type to just waltz off and order som shyt online jst to earn the right to say "I bought it in America"

For those wondering...why the heck would you go through the trouble of shipping an ordinary TV and home theater system all the way from the U.S when there are dealers and representatives of these brands/companies here in Nigeria.

Here are a few Big reasons

During the course of my small research i found out that even within the US, samsung TVs of the exact same model were carrying different panels.... sometimes from a completely different brand, which is a very serious implication because "The Panel' is "The TV" ...and the differnce in quality was quite substantial. So what i did was search until i made sure i found one that had the Samsung panel
read the "top critical review" in the review link in DETAIL to understand. or just google "samsung tv different panels" . This is not only a samsung thing by the way.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN32EH5000-32-Inch-1080p-Model/product-reviews/B0071O4ETQ

so if in the US this is the case, you can imagine what obtains here. how many people have bought a TV and wondered what panel was in it.
I also found out that there were other technical spec differences...for instance for the Series 5 TV i bought then in 2014, the North American models had a CMR (clear motion rate) of 120, while that for the Africa & South-Asia market had a CMR of 60, ( i believe its been updated to 100 now) and i'm talking about same model number, same size, same appearance same everything. this affects the quality of viewing when the objects on the screen are fast-moving

Big brands have different plants in different parts of the world to cater for different markets and i can categorically tell you that what comes out of many of these plants is never identical.... this extends to phones, cars, and the rest. Go to japan and buy any Sony product, then come home here and buy the same model and tell me what you discover.
To service Africa, most of these big brands like sony, Samsung, even Schneider outsource their stock and logistics from south asia, that's why you'll notice most of thier representatives are Lebanese, Indians etc.
So TV is not TV, even though its coming from the same Brand. We most likely wont notice the differences because you're not comparing side by side.
I also bought the TV on sale at the time for about 25% off, and the home theatre for about half the retail price, manufacturer refurbished , came almost brand new with the box. most of the items/accessories still in wraps. Many "manufacturer refurbished goods are not necessarily damaged and repaired goods, most are items that people buy and return for reasons as simple as wanting a bigger or smaller option or not liking the user interface. So all in all i spent less and got an all round better value even after shipping.

I have the exact converter in my ship to Nigeria box

I've been buying ALL my major electronics from Costco from the past 15 years or so and they haven't given me a reason to try elsewhere.

EgunMogaji:

I've been buying ALL my major electronics from Costco from the past 15 years or so and they haven't given me a reason to try elsewhere.

You mean they have this in Costco? All they have in their store around here is food. I will keep looking now though.
Or may be available on their online store. Good one.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


You mean they have this in Costco? All they have in their store around here is food. I will keep looking now though.
Or may be available on their online store. Good one.

Hajji M.

Sorry, I meant major like fridges, freezers, tvs, ranges, ovens,

This little guy came from Amazon I think. Very beefy and robust.

EgunMogaji:


The only exception are hvac units, clothes dryers, etc

The expression of behaving like romans when in Rome is limiting.

We have little Saigon, little Tokyo, Chinatown, Russia district here. Clearly those folks want the feel of home.

Not trying to convince folks to do 110v, just trying to have a conversation so that I can be more prepared.

Following this topic closely as the considerations are weighing on me too. Be mindful that USA 220 volts are on 60 hertz while Nigeria is 50 hertz. The lower frequency may result in equipment/appliance premature failures. This is why I plan on sourcing, eventually, multi split unit A/C from China instead of buying the 220 volt Pioneer and other brands that are reasonably priced in USA. My food for thought! Thanks for raising this discussion.

EgunMogaji:

Sorry, I meant major like fridges, freezers, tvs, ranges, ovens,
This little guy came from Amazon I think. Very beefy and robust.

OK. Got it. Yes, Amazon and ebay is the best to get it.

Hajji M.

Good day house I need help,am at roofing stage in my project and the builder gave me a quote for metcoppo step tile 0.45mm 1,980 per sqm and 0.55mm as 2,420 per sqm am a novice when it comes to these things as am not in the country how true is this,note site is in Benin Edo state,I will really appreciate a response to my question before i end up being cheated as I don't know how true it is.

Juokorow:


Following this topic closely as the considerations are weighing on me too. Be mindful that USA 220 volts are on 60 hertz while Nigeria is 50 hertz. The lower frequency may result in equipment/appliance premature failures. This is why I plan on sourcing, eventually, multi split unit A/C from China instead of buying the 220 volt Pioneer and other brands that are reasonably priced in USA. My food for thought! Thanks for raising this discussion.

I'm glad that you found the discussion helpful.

Someone hinted previously that my retirement should not be spent managing electrical.

Funny enough, this is exactly why I'm doing this and being fastidious about it.

Good luck.

Not sure why this is in politics.

https://www.nairaland.com/3231952/amide-clay-industries-berths-ogun#47628120

I do not know about Metcoppo, but can provide you with the details of Sumo who are equally good. Used at one of our projects.
Eduke: 08025755385

Teebawse:
Good day house I need help,am at roofing stage in my project and the builder gave me a quote for metcoppo step tile 0.45mm 1,980 per sqm and 0.55mm as 2,420 per sqm am a novice when it comes to these things as am not in the country how true is this,note site is in Benin Edo state,I will really appreciate a response to my question before i end up being cheated as I don't know how true it is.

[size=18pt] Yaaaay ! Land Grabbers (Omoniles) To Face 21 Years Jail Term
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https://www.nairaland.com/3236909/land-grabbers-face-21-years


But who will police it and can the government parade hoodlums that get apprehended to serve as a lesson to others ?

EgunMogaji:


I have the exact converter in my ship to Nigeria box

Yh, right on the money. I believe that's the same kind.

Why do you need a voltage converter tho, if you plan on going strictly 110 ?

Teebawse:
Good day house I need help,am at roofing stage in my project and the builder gave me a quote for metcoppo step tile 0.45mm 1,980 per sqm and 0.55mm as 2,420 per sqm am a novice when it comes to these things as am not in the country how true is this,note site is in Benin Edo state,I will really appreciate a response to my question before i end up being cheated as I don't know how true it is.

Ask for the name of the company he intends to buy from.

Get the numbers of some good companies here, call and negotiate prices with them, tell your roofer to go give them his cutting sheet/list. They would be glad to get it moved to your site but also factor in the cost of transportation.

In only the 21 years in jail threat will stop omo onile from grabbing and reselling land in Lagos.

Their new method is to sell your land that's on main road and give u another one that's miles away from the road. Take them to court, you waste your time and money.

allCopacetic:

Yh, right on the money. I believe that's the same kind.

Why do you need a voltage converter tho, if you plan on going strictly 110 ?

It's for the time being during my thrice yearly visit to Nigeria.

mavverick:
[size=18pt] Yaaaay ! Land Grabbers (Omoniles) To Face 21 Years Jail Term
[/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/3236909/land-grabbers-face-21-years


But who will police it and can the government parade hoodlums that get apprehended to serve as a lesson to others ?

I wish this was nationwide because I feel that Lagos hoodlums will just slither to outlying states to continue their nefarious activities.

I have reservations on its success even in Lagos, so no shaking for now for those outside Lagos.
Also most of the ones in Lagos are just chancers, a lot of them are non-indigenous that some indigenous thugs have drawn a map for and given them the licence to operate. Even the locals self, thier antics are not official, its just for the sake of peace.

EgunMogaji:


I wish this was nationwide because I feel that Lagos hoodlums will just slither to outlying stated to continue there neforious activities.

mavverick:
I have reservations on its success even in Lagos, so no shaking for now for those outside Lagos.
Also most of the ones in Lagos are just chancers, a lot of them are non-indigenous that some indigenous thugs have drawn a map for and given them the licence to operate. Even the locals self, thier antics are not official, its just for the sake of peace.

Very true.

When they come to my area they look like apocalypse zombies and I wonder what they do with the monies that they collect.

Smoke igbo
Drink
Marry wife

The funny thing is that the ones in my zone, when I finally met them I said to myself, are these the people causing me headache all these while, and that my engineer once upon a time so feared/revered, now we speak on a level, I command a lot of respect from them as they know/I have proven that "a quiet person can show them pepper as well". My only regret was not meeting them earlier, 80% of the problems I had with them would have gone away if I did, as I only now deal with thier Oga + Baale .

EgunMogaji:


Very true.

When they come to my area they look like apocalypse zombies and I wonder what they do with the monies that they collect.

EgunMogaji:


It's for the time being during my thrice yearly visit to Nigeria.

Ok,

It'll also be useful for any 220 equipments, IF/When you finally decide to go on 110