TonyeBarcanista:
We are used to the system where anything "youth" is synonymous with unseriousness and noisemaking.

Yes, we are but the time to change this NOW

Mynd44:

I dont expect everyone to reason alike. I also do not expect the people supporters of a party look up to as youth leaders to be the ones engaging in mud slinging.

As for the APC, we are not talking about them, lets talk about fixing the social media image of the PDP as this thread is about and while at it, please seize Lere Olayinka's internet devices.

That one is under his Oga.......he who pays the piper dictates the tone. So you don't want him to post pics of Fayose cutting fish as a replacement for development?
I have my reservation abt Fayose form of governance, and some other governors too.

Mynd44:

This is where our views diverge. You seem to think there is a need for a recognized social media arm. I think not.

People should be individual volunteers of their parties and be able to sell the ideals of that party at any point without being members or bejng part of any organogram.

This is where we keep deceiving ourselves.

Bro, a stricture cannot accommodate everyone at a time but it is meant to give everyone the desired tool to effectively perform the role.

If you say one can sell party ideals without being recognised, please may I ask you to tell ALL APC Chieftains to resign because they have no business occupying offices since they could do so outside?

Please can we tell Buhari, Ambode etc to resign because they could contribute to nation building without being in office? what about Obama?

it is a common knowledge that the essence of recognition goes beyond selling ideals, but also being part of decision makers and properly represent the teeming population.

If these individuals can't do this independently, they will fail if they are official as that will just mean the party is officially getting involved in filth.

Again you keep harping on individuals. Are we fighting for them? Are they the only people in PDP? We want a structure not to promote persons.



Understood now my boss?

We really appreciate ur sincere advice man but we will appreciate u d more wn u help us push this to the FP for the world to see.

Mynd44:

I dont expect everyone to reason alike. I also do not expect the people supporters of a party look up to as youth leaders to be the ones engaging in mud slinging.

As for the APC, we are not talking about them, lets talk about fixing the social media image of the PDP as this thread is about and while at it, please seize Lere Olayinka's internet devices.

easrael:


Yes, we are but the time to change this NOW

That is why we can't back down from this demand

Kk

TonyeBarcanista:
That is why we can't back down from this demand

Good luck on the quest

TonyeBarcanista:

This is where we keep deceiving ourselves.

Bro, a stricture cannot accommodate everyone at a time but it is meant to give everyone the desired tool to effectively perform the role.

If you say one can sell party ideals without being recognised, please may I ask you to tell ALL APC Chieftains to resign because they have no business occupying offices since they could do so outside?

Please can we tell Buhari, Ambode etc to resign because they could contribute to nation building without being in office? what about Obama?

it is a common knowledge that the essence of recognition goes beyond selling ideals, but also being part of decision makers and properly represent the teeming population.

Again you keep harping on individuals. Are we fighting for them? Are they the only people in PDP? We want a structure not to promote persons.



Understood now my boss?

You are missing the point, you can actually sell your party without any form of recognition but consensus and a structure is necessary so that some won't be building while some are unknowingly bringing it down.

Social media transcends conventional limitation and afford you the opportunity to build a brand independently like you've done on here Tonye. I think you can do a better job.

So we need to watch who to engage during argument.


No way a paid PDP agent will reason with the masses.

No PDP agenda, no reasoning.

I have been impressed with mynd44 intellectual discourse on this thread thus far

You earned my respect today Bro

well done

Is this page strictly for wailers? What's the noise about PDP everywhere? Let them die and die eternally...what's my own?

Truth234:


You are missing the point, you can actually sell your party without any form of recognition but consensus and a structure is necessary so that some won't be building while some are unknowingly bringing it down.

Social media transcends conventional limitation and afford you the opportunity to build a brand independently like you've done on here Tonye. I think you can do a better job.

What is your point?

Angelb4:
Is this page strictly for wailers? What's the noise about PDP everywhere? Let them die and die eternally...what's my own?

easy bruv, they said they need restructuring nah!

[quote author=OGreat20 post=47715502]All hands must be on deck to reclaim our lost glory n the most important hand here is the SM!!


ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!![/quote
If I may ask, which glory?
Glory of looting treasury?
Glory of inflating contracts
Glory of awarding contracts without execution
Glory of sharing money at the expense of masses
My brother, if you're dreaming better wake up.
Apc too will soon meet their waterloo because this is not what they promise us,
They promise us stable power supply, good roads and employment. After a year nothing to show

WHETHER ONLINE DIRECTORATES OR NOT,PDP STILL HAS LAXITY AND IMPUNITY,CORRUPTION IN THEIR VEINS.PLEASE,THEY SHOULD REOREINTATE MEMBERS AND BE DISCIPLINED

INTERNAL PURGE BEFORE EXTERNAL ACCOMMODATION.16 YEARS OF FAILURE, WE STILL CANT FORGET

I do hope that not only the PDP but APC and the other parties as well as non-governmental organisations in Nigeria get to have a better understanding of the place of social media in building your brand and connecting with your target audience.

In truth, so much gutter language and ethno-religious beef was spewed forth by supposed PDP supporters on social media before and around the electoral loss of 2015. Their rhetoric mirrored those of their party bigwigs in demonising PMB, the APC candidate, which included wishing him dead, drumming up allegations of falsifying school certificates, suggesting that he be arrested for war crimes committed during the civil war, allegations of corruption during his days at the PTF, accusation of him being the mastermind behind BH, insults about his grand age etc, etc! All of these shenanigans had the counter result of alienating the undecided voters and even pushing them to vote for the APC candidate as a perceived minnow who was being victimised by a powerful foe.

Understandably, many of these so-called PDP handles and SM activists had little or no official connection with the party and even drowned the official party releases. For this reason, I support the call for an SM Directorate for the party as ordinarily this should aid the party in coordinating it's message better.

However, beyond the above point, the real reason why the PDP lost the election is not because they didn't engage well enough with SM. It is because the message the party was putting out alienated many voters and reduced the party to a sectional interest obviously due to the fact that the party machinery had been hijacked by the president's inner circle who thought the whole idea of the election was to defend the right of the Ijaw/South-South peoples' turn at the wheel of Nigeria's milk spray!

Restructure the party, change the rhetoric, find meaningful causes to fight for and stand upon. The economy is bad right now so proffering a different agenda and convincing Nigerians to buy into it can be a start off point. But when the same SM handles that are expected to drive PDP to greater heights are the same handles you see today screaming Biafra, celebrating NDA bombings and defending Fayoshe's shenanigans, it gives you the jimmies that it is nowhere near uhuru for the party even if it creates an official SM Directorate today.

I wish both PDP and APC well for our sake.

kjhova:
I do hope that not only the PDP but APC and the other parties as well as non-governmental organisations in Nigeria get to have a better understanding of the place of social media in building your brand and connecting with your target audience.

In truth, so much gutter language and ethno-religious beef was spewed forth by supposed PDP supporters on social media before and around the electoral loss of 2015. Their rhetoric mirrored those of their party bigwigs in demonising PMB, the APC candidate, which included wishing him dead, drumming up allegations of falsifying school certificates, suggesting that he be arrested for war crimes committed during the civil war, allegations of corruption during his days at the PTF, accusation of him being the mastermind behind BH, insults about his grand age etc, etc! All of these shenanigans had the counter result of alienating the undecided voters and even pushing them to vote for the APC candidate as a perceived minnow who was being victimised by a powerful foe.

Understandably, many of these so-called PDP handles and SM activists had little or no official connection with the party and even drowned the official party releases. For this reason, I support the call for an SM Directorate for the party as ordinarily this should aid the party in coordinating it's message better.

However, beyond the above point, the real reason why the PDP lost the election is not because they didn't engage well enough with SM. It is because the message the party was putting out alienated many voters and reduced the party to a sectional interest obviously due to the fact that the party machinery had been hijacked by the president's inner circle who thought the whole idea of the election was to defend the right of the Ijaw/South-South peoples' turn at the wheel of Nigeria's milk spray!

Restructure the party, change the rhetoric, find meaningful causes to fight for and stand upon. The economy is bad right now so proffering a different agenda and convincing Nigerians to buy into it can be a start off point. But when the same SM handles that are expected to drive PDP to greater heights are the same handles you see today screaming Biafra, celebrating NDA bombings and defending Fayoshe's shenanigans, it gives you the jimmies that it is nowhere near uhuru for the party even if it creates an official SM Directorate today.

I wish both PDP and APC well for our sake.

well said. Exactly my thoughts also. PDP needs to find a way to control what their supporters are saying online. I dont know how they will expect me to vote for them after insulting my tribe. They come online, insult other tribes, religion, discuss petty things like price of the shoe the president is wearing and other meaningless stuffs.

PDP needs to find a way to appeal to other parts of the country, cause if election is held again, North will still vote for APC, SE and SS will still vote for PDP while SW will be divided, which means that most likely, APC will still win.
You don't win election by insulting others.

loseyourseld:
PDP needs to find a way to appeal to other parts of the country, cause if election is held again, North will still vote for APC, SE and SS will still vote for PDP while SW will be divided, which means that most likely, APC will still win.
You don't win election by insulting others.

They can never change, just forget it, even for the upcoming elections in Edo state, they have already started their tribal sentiments again.

The PDP was busy dolling out monies to their founding fathers and the power brokers and left the youths alone with their SM madness because it's a platform for insulting elders which was not one of the ideals of the founding fathers .

The APC used all forms of media to the fullest along with their propagandist approach, they filled the ears of Nigerians including the deaf with the word "change".

APC spent money on the media and they are better for it today while PDP looted to the skies, they were never satisfied, their mess still continues.

TonyeBarcanista:
Wow, thank you OP for bringing this content here, it is well needed and timely.

We can't continue to fool ourselves that all is well within PDP(and the Nigeria political space) with respect to our inclusion in politics when nothing is well.

We can't continue to wail unrelentlessly without a political direction and involvement.

If PDP cannot embrace the creation of Social Media Wing to play a core role within the party then it should not expect support from SM base.

oga Tonye swear say no be u write that article for vanguard!

how comes no one is seeing oga TonyeBarcanista's siggy allover that article??

even the concluding line "May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria" is bacarnister's favorite end of discussion line

oga Tonye u don dey look for job as PDP's online Director of propaganda abi!


anyway sha, they truly need to give you that position cause it will do PDP a lot of good - but PDP being a party without common sense wont see the importance of the write up.

but sha! keep shouting it into their ears maybe they will hear you and hand it over to you to give it a go.

nwaanambra1:



oga Tonye swear say no be u write that article for vanguard!

how comes no one is seeing oga TonyeBarcanista's siggy allover that article??

even the concluding line "May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria" is bacarnister's favorite end of discussion line

oga Tonye u don dey look for job as PDP's online Director of propaganda abi!


anyway sha, they truly need to give you that position cause it will do PDP a lot of good - but PDP being a party without common sense wont see the importance of the write up.

but sha! keep shouting it into their ears maybe they will hear you and hand it over to you to give it a go.

yes o, God must bless everyone and Nigeria...

We just want a better party and better country

TonyeBarcanista:


yes o, God must bless everyone and Nigeria...

We just want a better party and better country

Read up on Kjhova 's submission... David vs Goliath concept and you'll understand people's natural propensity to root for the underdog.... It's not social media, it's the leaving leprosy to pay attention to ringworm that caused their downfall, not that the years of misadventure didn't set them on the path to perdition in the first place..

PDP's problem is self inflicted and there isn't likely to be any change of fortune (no pun intended) if they don't do a self re examination & introspection ....

He who pays the piper dictates the tune, I don't see the old PDP guard who are financing the party going this route though.... Hope they can turn a new leaf..

TonyeBarcanista:
Wow, thank you OP for bringing this content here, it is well needed and timely.

We can't continue to fool ourselves that all is well within PDP(and the Nigeria political space) with respect to our inclusion in politics when nothing is well.

We can't continue to wail unrelentlessly without a political direction and involvement.

If PDP cannot embrace the creation of Social Media Wing to play a core role within the party then it should not expect support from SM base.

my advice to PDP for 2019,,let dem (pdp) bring a young n vibrant candidate,dat can carry d youth along!!

TonyeBarcanista:
Wow, thank you OP for bringing this content here, it is well needed and timely.

We can't continue to fool ourselves that all is well within PDP(and the Nigeria political space) with respect to our inclusion in politics when nothing is well.

We can't continue to wail unrelentlessly without a political direction and involvement.

If PDP cannot embrace the creation of Social Media Wing to play a core role within the party then it should not expect support from SM base.

All this is true my brother. But why didn't they also add that they had an ineffectual Buffon as president that folded his arms while everyone around him, tom, dickk and harry robbed this country dry.

Social media can't do so much when the subject is so bad.
Barcanista, I no curse u o. Na Jonathan I curse.

Hahahah y'all really believe PDP. gives a rats asss about the youth Hahahaha too damn funny
engineerboat TonyeBarcanista OGreat20 engineerboat STONEGEORGE15

PDP lost 2015 election because in 16 years,it fails to deliver good governance to Nigerians.No good roads,No job,No food,No water,No light,No future,No good international image,No infrastructure,No good education,No good healthcare.The only popular things we had were unprecedented looting of treasury and corruptions,killings,political assasinations,civil unrest and electoral violence,militancy and avoidable agitations.If PDP had done well,no amount of APC propaganda can displace them.

All that is being canvassed for is a new structure for paying pdp boosters

All this online directorate was never an issue in the past when the money was flowing and disparate groups of online teams got paid.

It is also Barcanista's big push for influence. Unfortunately no one can claim to be the leader of the motley group of thugs running amok in cyberspace.

They are more like mend, an umbrella group for multiple bodies with no clear ideology or purpose.

Better do se youth and ss youth online forum.