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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jul 19, 2016
TV01:

So a long wordy post

Opines the self-same person that expresses a simple point that could have been passed across tersely in a few words in more than 3,500 words.


Strategic use of smileys

My usage of Smiley is not strategic. It's used only when necessary or to punctuate my statements. Do you feel threatened?


snide invective

Mr. Persksniffian, who started the snide invectives on this thread? Why single me out?


overweening self-congratulatory smugness

Go check the meaning of 'self-congratulatory'. You obviously do not know the meaning.


and - so far - 6 affirmatory smileys

Once again, are my Smileys threatening your e-existence? Damn! Stop bitching.


Yoour candidature for the NL hall of fame seems assured, even if only in the family section. But not so fast sir;

I have better things to worry my head about than petty Nairaland squabbles. . . .or as you put it: 'NL hall of fame'.

You can keep that for yourself. I don't need it.


Historically in the West, a woman would have a label - "Mrs" - that signified her marital status, and a name - "her husbands surname" - that identified her with a particular man

Historically amongst the Yoruba, a woman would have a title "Aya" - that signified her marital status - and a name "her husbands first name" - that identified her with a particular male.

She was called Aya and also the name of her father was included whenever her name was called in public. She also never took up her husband's name. You are not from the West and probably only have a cosmetic knowledge of the customs and traditions of the Yorubas. Stop claiming what you don't know.


Pray tell, what was you point again?

My point is she was never called Mrs. Adewale or took up her husband's name. Being addressed as Aya Adewale(wife of Adewale) is different from being called Mrs.Adewale: the former indicates that she retained her name(father's name) and the latter that she took up her husband's surname(which never happened in Old Oyo empire and many other areas in the western parts of Nigeria)

If you had calmed down you would have understood me first-hand


Particularly in light of the OP? The OP is clear, it is feminist ideology that is driving moves away from this norm. Especially via legislative intervention

TV

Didn't you see the part where I asked the OP by what he meant by that and he replied by saying I know the answer to my question but could keep on 'pretending' that I don't?

My point is how can OP claim that women opting not to go by the names of their hubbys are only dyed-in-the-wool feminists that are affecting the ways of the west, especially when the so-called Mr & Mrs practice was brought to us by the white missionaries.(I used old Oyo empire to shore up this FACT)

Once again you should have taken the time to read the discourse on the thread before making a comment. The time you use in writing 'TV' pointlessly at the end of your every post can be used to that purpose.

Now here is a Smiley for you. cool

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jul 19, 2016
TV01:

On another note, it's why women, and especially childless ones,must never lead nations in a time of crises. When everything is going well, no real problem. In mature countries the infrastructure is in place, and in prosperous times, little can go wrong. National leadership isn't even that important, and more symbolic - Even sef, lassie the wonder dog could make a decent fist of it grin


Why don't you write it down on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope and send it to Theresa May, YOUR childless PRIME MINISTER. grin grin grin grin grin

I hope she will deport you to Afghanistan, where you belong. wink

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 5:56pm On Jul 19, 2016
Mindfulness:


Why don't you write it down on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope and send it to Theresa May, YOUR childless PRIME MINISTER. grin grin grin grin grin

I hope she will deport you to Afghanistan, where you belong. wink
Wish I knew his real handle, it's not just Asians that have hate preachers. There is one here and I wish he had the guts to reveal himself in real life so I can direct the authorities to him for inciting homophobia, sexism, religious fanaticism, hatred of his adopted country, xenophobia, racism.. I could go on.Not going to happen though, the things with peeps like this is that they are cowards in real life grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jul 19, 2016
shaybebaby:

Wish I knew his real handle, it's not just Asians that have hate preachers. There is one here and I wish he had the guts to reveal himself in real life so I can direct the authorities to him for inciting homophobia, sexism, religious fanaticism, hatred of his adopted country, xenophobia, racism.. I could go on.Not going to happen though, the things with peeps like this is that they are cowards in real life grin

You just need to give the authorities a hint and his anti-constitutional remarks will be under surveillance - in fact his every move will. cool

There is a thick line between freedom of speech and the violation of a country's inalienable rights.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 6:15am On Jul 20, 2016
Mindfulness:


You just need to give the authorities a hint and his anti-constitutional remarks will be under surveillance - in fact his every move will. cool

There is a thick line between freedom of speech and the violation of a country's inalienable rights.


Don't tempt me.. wink
Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 10:43am On Jul 20, 2016
Mindfulness:
Why don't you write it down on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope and send it to Theresa May, YOUR childless PRIME MINISTER. grin grin grin grin grin

I hope she will deport you to Afghanistan, where you belong. wink

Per below in bold, which I pointed out earlier wink
And again below that, I don't care who they elect or even what they stand for wink

And one thing is for sure, Theresa May cannot have me deported anywhere, unlike you, I am not a "by boat migrant" grin. And unlike Theresa May, my generations shall inhabit this land until the Lord returns cool.

TV01:
I'm not bragging by the way, we just got Theresa May angry

You see the politics of it all is actually relatively unimportant to me. No, I don't vote in parliamentary elections, or even care who my local MEP is. I am not partisan, as none of them do His will or work to see His Kingdom come.


shaybebaby:

Wish I knew his real handle, it's not just Asians that have hate preachers. There is one here and I wish he had the guts to reveal himself in real life so I can direct the authorities to him for inciting homophobia, sexism, religious fanaticism, hatred of his adopted country, xenophobia, racism.. I could go on.Not going to happen though, the things with peeps like this is that they are cowards in real life grin

Mindfulness:

You just need to give the authorities a hint and his anti-constitutional remarks will be under surveillance - in fact his every move will. cool
There is a thick line between freedom of speech and the violation of a country's inalienable rights.

GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" grin. If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers cheesy

Psalm 2: 1-5 for you. Read the KJV for an extra strength tension headache kiss


TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 1:21pm On Jul 20, 2016
TV01:


Per below in bold, which I pointed out earlier wink
And again below that, I don't care who they elect or even what they stand for wink

And one thing is for sure, Theresa May cannot have me deported anywhere, unlike you, I am not a "by boat migrant" grin. And unlike Theresa May, my generations shall inhabit this land until the Lord returns cool.








GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" grin. If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers cheesy

Psalm 2: 1-5 for you. Read the KJV for an extra strength tension headache kiss


TV
But you can be locked up because you are a menace to the free society you live in, you do NOT deserve to enjoy the civil rights you neither contributed to not appreciate.
You are NOT British born so you citizenship can always be revoked ( that is if you are one) and that will be a just outcome.
Or better still, do the honourable thing and remove yourself to whence you came from since you hate the ways of the west so much.

Nigerians be running stuff down with their mouth, yet refuse to give it up. Said it once, I'm saying it again, put your money where your mouth is and show your minions that you are uncompromising in your fanaticism. But not going to happen is it, hate preachers be running down the country but at the same time collecting state benefits. grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 3:23pm On Jul 20, 2016
shaybebaby:
But you can be locked up because you are a menace to the free society you live in, you do NOT deserve to enjoy the civil rights you neither contributed to not appreciate.
I'm a menace to purveyors of wanton permissiveness licentiousness such as yourself - GDT

shaybebaby:

You are NOT British born so you citizenship can always be revoked ( that is if you are one) and that will be a just outcome.
Or better still, do the honourable thing and remove yourself to whence you came from since you hate the ways of the west so much.
Unlike you and your "under-lorry, by-boat, across desert, people smuggled" buddy grin, I was born here - 100% omo onile cool. My ways are the ways of the West. Some just appear to have forgotten what made us great.

shaybebaby:

Nigerians be running stuff down with their mouth, yet refuse to give it up. Said it once, I'm saying it again, put your money where your mouth is and show your minions that you are uncompromising in your fanaticism. But not going to happen is it, hate preachers be running down the country but at the same time collecting state benefits. grin
Never held a Nigerian passport. UK of GB & I for life grin

Tell the police this is who they are looking for. Apologies in advance for putting you off your greasy, poor-muscles-tone, spaghetti suckers grin


TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by crackhaus: 4:54pm On Jul 20, 2016
darkenedrebel:

My point is she was never called Mrs. Adewale or took up her husband's name. Being addressed as Aya Adewale(wife of Adewale) is different from being called Mrs.Adewale: the former indicates that she retained her name(father's name) and the latter that she took up her husband's surname(which never happened in Old Oyo empire and many other areas in the western parts of Nigeria)
Dude, quit confusing and patting yourself in the back for the confusion-inspired mumbo jumbo you call knowledge.

Aya Adewale and Mrs. Adewale are different because one is Aya and the other is Mrs. gringrin

You say the missionaries introduced the Mrs which women now use, but this isn't news to any sensible person - Missus is an English word transcribed to mean wife of/somebody's wife.
So what makes it different from Aya? gringrin

When a married woman in the old Oyo empire wants to write down her name on a piece of paper, or on sand, or on whatever else was around then to signify identity, how would she write it? grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by crackhaus: 5:06pm On Jul 20, 2016
TV01:


GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" grin. If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers cheesy

Psalm 2: 1-5 for you. Read the KJV for an extra strength tension headache kiss


TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 5:08pm On Jul 20, 2016
TV01:

I'm a menace to purveyors of wanton permissiveness licentiousness such as yourself - GDT


Unlike you and your "under-lorry, by-boat, across desert, people smuggled" buddy grin, I was born here - 100% omo onile cool. My ways are the ways of the West. Some just appear to have forgotten what made us great.

Never held a Nigerian passport. UK of GB & I for life grin

Tell the police this is who they are looking for. Apologies in advance for putting you off your greasy, poor-muscles-tone, spaghetti suckers grin


TV
Loooooool! And then posts pictures of himself with ishan like that of the agberos at idumota! lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Followed by a sly dig at my partner, threatened much when I have never and will never cast aspersions on yours, don't have to..her treasure, my nightmare (trash)but each to their own, we don't all want the same things. I'm secure in that knowledge but you?
Laughing my head off.

Ps: you are NOT British born...stop lying.. Your utterances give you away. grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Stillfire: 8:57pm On Jul 20, 2016
3. Why do this category of women (Mrs My Father's Name) love to eat their cake and have it?

Huh? I'm not privy to feminists women struggling for a Mrs. tag. I'm much privy to them rejecting that tag.
These women go by the title Ms. which is a neutral alternative to Miss or Mrs. This accords them ambiguity to marital status. It's like the Mr. title of men where there's no distinction given to married or single men. You can't tell if a man is married or not, neither can you tell if a woman is married with a Ms. title.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 20, 2016
TV01:


Per below in bold, which I pointed out earlier wink
And again below that, I don't care who they elect or even what they stand for wink

And one thing is for sure, Theresa May cannot have me deported anywhere, unlike you, I am not a "by boat migrant" grin. And unlike Theresa May, my generations shall inhabit this land until the Lord returns cool.








GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" grin. If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers cheesy

Psalm 2: 1-5 for you. Read the KJV for an extra strength tension headache kiss


TV




grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 8:42am On Jul 21, 2016
Mindfulness:





grin grin grin grin grin
Two aged and barren women. No skin in the game, no investment in the future. Check out the future - our generations cool!

TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 8:51am On Jul 21, 2016
shaybebaby:

Loooooool! And then posts pictures of himself with ishan like that of the agberos at idumota! lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Followed by a sly dig at my partner, threatened much when I have never and will never cast aspersions on yours, don't have to..her treasure, my nightmare (trash)but each to their own, we don't all want the same things. I'm secure in that knowledge but you?
Laughing my head off.

Ps: you are NOT British born...stop lying.. Your utterances give you away. grin
Be quiet cheesy

Run to your nearest police station. Tell them about my crimes;
- having an intact biological family...in this day and age? - please break them up so they can be like mine tongue
- espousing moral values and taking vows seriously - surely punishable by stoning lipsrsealed

Until I post FP/BP of my passport abi? Illegal, married for papers benefits sponger. Oya, I don post, lets see the pix of this Eytie you won't let us hear word about.

Liar and hypocrite. If it was a black guy raving about white women y'all would scream self-esteem issues. What's your defence? Claiming love has no colour, but only being able to see white. Coconut cool.

TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 8:54am On Jul 21, 2016
TV01:

Two aged and barren women. No skin in the game, no investment in the future. Check out the future - our generations cool!

TV
Such gorg innocent cuties.. Shame about their father.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 8:57am On Jul 21, 2016
shaybebaby:

Such gorg innocent cuties.. Shame about their father.
Thank you. But quit trying to butter me up. Post and let's see what the noise is about - or forever hold your peace grin

TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 9:15am On Jul 21, 2016
TV01:

Be quiet cheesy

Run to your nearest police station. Tell them about my crimes;
- having an intact biological family...in this day and age? - please break them up so they can be like mine tongue
- espousing moral values and taking vows seriously - surely punishable by stoning lipsrsealed

Until I post FP/BP of my passport abi? Illegal, married for papers benefits sponger. Oya, I don post, lets see the pix of this Eytie you won't let us hear word about.

Liar and hypocrite. If it was a black guy raving about white women y'all would scream self-esteem issues. What's your defence? Claiming love has no colour, but only being able to see white. Coconut cool.

TV
1) not being British born doesn't mean you cannot be British. Stop letting your insecurities cloud your understanding.
2) any one who is in an interracial relationship exercises their choice, what's my business who anyone decides to get with? You should learn to keep your nose out of things that ain't your business. undecided
3) Biological shmiologimental, you really should unclench your butt, life is much more beautiful when you allow some love and give love to everyone you come into contact with. I love all children, biological or not and hate to see anyone in pain. But...again, your stance limits the spreading of your hate to those within your immediate sphere, I cannot complain, there is some small comfort to be derived from that. kiss
4) I don't need to go to a police station, I can do it online and point them here to your handle.
5) I have posted my baby's picture before when I felt like sharing and I won't do it now because I have nothing to prove. He is better looking and a better man than you would ever be, I know this and that is all that counts. cool

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 9:19am On Jul 21, 2016
TV01:

Thank you. But quit trying to butter me up. Post and let's see what the noise is about - or forever hold your peace grin

TV
Wouldn't dream of buttering you up, applying butter on sh1t still wouldn't make it edible.
No, they are children, their own persons and beautiful as they are.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 9:57am On Jul 21, 2016
shaybebaby:
1) not being British born doesn't mean you cannot be British. Stop letting your insecurities cloud your understanding.
Born, bred and buttered on this beautiful Isle cool. And it's your insecurities that are on full display - validating yourself by rejecting black undecided.

shaybebaby:
2) any one who is in an interracial relationship exercises their choice, what's my business who anyone decides to get with? You should learn to keep your nose out of things that ain't your business. undecided
And I've been in "interracial" relationships as you term them. But I don't see one "race" as superior or try and sell them as better. That is truly colour-blind. Colour - white - is actually the fundamental basis of your choices.

shaybebaby:
3) Biological shmiologimental, you really should unclench your butt, life is much more beautiful when you allow some love and give love to everyone you come into contact with. I love all children, biological or not and hate to see anyone in pain. But...again, your stance limits the spreading of your hate to those within your immediate sphere, I cannot complain, there is some small comfort to be derived from that. kiss
Be quiet, having a different moral stance is not hate, having a different opinion is not a crime. And like you co-jihadist, in lieu of a strong case, you want to use the power of the law to quieten any dissent. Shaybebaby ko, crybaby ni grin

shaybebaby:
4) I don't need to go to a police station, I can do it online and point them here to your handle.
You are a real bore,you know that

shaybebaby:
5) I have posted my baby's picture before when I felt like sharing and I won't do it now because I have nothing to prove. He is better looking and a better man than you would ever be, I know this and that is all that counts. cool
Yes na, 10x better looking, and 10 times the man. Only, he's not yours is he? That's the whole point, with no commitment, he can be in the next bed tomorrow. And mark my words, he marrying Maria from back home, not you "Folake" wink!

shaybebaby:
Wouldn't dream of buttering you up, applying butter on sh1t still wouldn't make it edible.
No, they are children, their own persons and beautiful as they are.
Be as pious as you like - e pain am cheesy


TV

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 10:50am On Jul 21, 2016
TV01:

Two aged and barren women. No skin in the game, no investment in the future. Check out the future - our generations cool!

TV

The leaders of countries with the strongest economies in the world - enough investment. grin cool

There is no guarantee kids will want to stay around a bitter, insecure, control-freak of a father who repeats himself like a broken record and is not able to come to terms with development and progress. grin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 10:59am On Jul 21, 2016
Double post.
Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 11:09am On Jul 21, 2016
Mindfulness:


The leaders of countries with the strongest economies in the world - enough investment. grin cool

There is no guarantee kids will want to stay around a bitter, insecure, control-freak of a father who repeats himself like a broken record and is not able to come to terms with development and progress. grin



Haven't you heard? The world is waking up to islamic terrorism. The PC regime is coming to an end. Even the Guardian, a super left wing paper is beginning to question its stand on extremism.

The perpetrator of the Nice attacks last week wasn't even an ISIS-licensed operative but a fan, same with the butcher in the German train days ago who had a hand-painted flag of ISIS in his room. And where did he live? In the home of a German family who graciously accommodated him after "fleeing" civil war in Syria. grin

You left-wing nuts still don't have a clue. The Arabs aren't in Europe to integrate, they are there to take over. They don't give two hoots about your progressivism, you're the filthiest thing on the earth.

I wonder when Merkel is going to resign for endangering the lives of millions of Germans by imporring barbarians. Long live the European Caliphate of Allemaigne, abi how una dey spell am.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 11:20am On Jul 21, 2016
TV01:

Born, bred and buttered on this beautiful Isle cool. And it's your insecurities that are on full display - validating yourself by rejecting black undecided.


And I've been in "interracial" relationships as you term them. But I don't see one "race" as superior or try and sell them as better. That is truly colour-blind. Colour - white - is actually the fundamental basis of your choices.


Be quiet, having a different moral stance is not hate, having a different opinion is not a crime. And like you co-jihadist, in lieu of a strong case, you want to use the power of the law to quieten any dissent. Shaybebaby ko, crybaby ni grin

You are a real bore,you know that


Yes na, 10x better looking, and 10 times the man. Only, he's not yours is he? That's the whole point, with no commitment, he can be in the next bed tomorrow. And mark my words, he marrying Maria from back home, not you "Folake" wink!


Be as pious as you like - e pain am cheesy


TV
Nigerian men and always looking for people to own like handbags. angry
That's why more and more black sisters are widening their dating pool. What I don't get is why you keep getting a headache over other people's choices?
In real life, I would avoid you if I came across you because we are chalk and cheese. Your views are yours, own them but please don't try to dictate my choices, na your life?
If you chose someone who is happy to exchange her brain for a marriage certificate, good for the both of you.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by shaybebaby(f): 11:27am On Jul 21, 2016
Timbuktou:


Haven't you heard? The world is waking up to islamic terrorism. The PC regime is coming to an end. Even the Guardian, a super left wing paper is beginning to question its stand on extremism.

The perpetrator of the Nice attacks last week wasn't even an ISIS-licensed operative but a fan, same with the butcher in the German train days ago who had a hand-painted flag of ISIS in his room. And where did he live? In the home of a German family who graciously accommodated him after "fleeing" civil war in Syria. grin

You left-wing nuts still don't have a clue. The Arabs aren't in Europe to integrate, they are there to take over. They don't give two hoots about your progressivism, you're the filthiest thing on the earth.

I wonder when Merkel is going to resign for endangering the lives of millions of Germans by imporring barbarians. Long live the European Caliphate of Allemaigne, abi how una dey spell am.
And yet, there are Muslim casualties as well as others in the entire melee which negates the fact, what would the excuse be for their deaths..that they are infidels as well?

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jul 21, 2016
shaybebaby:

And yet, there are Muslim casualties as well as others in the entire melee which negates the fact, what would the excuse be for their deaths..that they are infidels as well?


The perpetrators themselves hardly remain alive are they not muslim? It's all about martyrdom and winning the world for Allah. They're about to sharia up your ass.
Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jul 21, 2016
crackhaus:

Dude, quit confusing and patting yourself in the back for the confusion-inspired mumbo jumbo you call knowledge.
Aya Adewale and Mrs. Adewale are different because one is Aya and the other is Mrs. gringrin

I thought we had an unspoken gentleman agreement that we would refrain from quoting each other on this thread? Stop asking me not to quote you and yet still quote me any time you cannot put a rudder on your sporadic cacoethes. Make up your mind and stop flip-flopping.

FYI, the only person confusing himself on this thread is you. Your depleted comprehension ability is further proof that education does not in itself make a person intelligent.

Are you so dumb that you cannot understand the simple thing that I have been trying to say on this thread?

Are you still doubting that Aya Adewale and Mrs. Adewale are different?. . . . .yes they are different. Yes, they perform a similar function i.e to indicate to a person that a woman is married to so and so, but no, Aya does not mean Mrs, linguistically. It means wife. Even google translate would tell you the same.

Since you have failed again and again to comprehend my simple message then I would state it unequivocally for the last time: in Old Oyo empire the woman retains her father's name and if she is to be addressed in public it would be like this: - Funke, aya Adewale, omo Adegoke.
That doesn't in anyway show that the woman took up her husband's name and even in our annals, nothing explicitly state that the woman took up her husband's name. Because of this discussion I have even contacted some aged persons and well-rounded historians of the Yoruba culture to table this before them and they all seem to agree with me.



You say the missionaries introduced the Mrs which women now use, but this isn't news to any sensible person - Missus is an English word transcribed to mean wife of/somebody's wife.
So what makes it different from Aya? gringrin

You are a dull rétard. I've already explained myself above and would further waste none of my breath.

I'm responsible for every post I make on Nairaland. What I'm not responsible for is making people understand me or buying my viewpoint(s). Don't quote this account on this issue again.



When a married woman in the old Oyo empire wants to write down her name on a piece of paper, or on sand, or on whatever else was around then to signify identity, how would she write it? grin

This once again proves how watery your working knowledge of the customs, traditions and history of the Yoruba really is.

So you don't know that paper was only present in civilizations that existed in ancient Egypt and some other Mediterranean cultures, and later in China in around 206 BC or so. Long story short, old Oyo empire did not have the luxury of papers or papyrus as it's called. We communicated using Dundun, Gangan, town criers, calabashes(like when the Oyomesi through the Bashorun presented the Alaafin with an empty calabash or a parrot's egg)

How is it possible for people to write their name on sand? are your brain cells dwindling by the minute?

Whatever else was around? hehe. It feels like I'm bandying words with a primary one Igbo boy that thinks he knows the alpha and omega of the Yoruba history.

Take my initial advise, nigga. Don't quote me on this issue again. On other threads we can discuss but I'm done on this thread with you.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jul 21, 2016
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GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" grin. If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers cheesy
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Resorting to juvenile side jibes when his think tank has run out of ideas. Well anticipated.

My ways have always been Bohemian. I'm not the type to jump on the bandwagon simply because I want to be accepted. So call me stigmatic or outlaw or maverick, it wouldn't change nada.

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by crackhaus: 2:28pm On Jul 21, 2016
darkenedrebel:

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I thought you we had an unspoken gentleman agreement that we would refrain from quoting each other on this thread? Stop asking me not quote you and yet still quote me any time you cannot put a rudder on your sporadic cacoethes. Make up your mind and stop flip-flopping.

FYI, the only person confusing himself on this thread is you. Your depleted comprehension ability is further proof that education does not in itself make a person intelligent.

Are you so dumb that you cannot understand the simple thing that I have been trying to say on this thread?

Are you still doubting that Aya Adewale and Mrs. Adewale are different?. . . . .yes they are different. Yes, they perform a similar function i.e to indicate to a person that a woman is married to so and so, but no, Aya does not mean Mrs, linguistically. It means wife. Even google translate would tell you the same.

Since you have failed again and again to comprehend my simple message then I would state it unequivocally for the last time: in Old Oyo empire the woman retains her father's name and if she is to be addressed in public it would be like this: - Funke, aya Adewale, omo Adegoke.
That doesn't in anyway show that the woman took up her husband's name and even in our annals, nothing explicitly state that the woman took up her husband's name. Because of this discussion I have even contacted some aged persons and well-rounded historians of the Yoruba culture to table this before them and they all seem to agree with me.




You are a dull rétard. I've already explained myself above and would further waste none of my breath.

I'm responsible for every post I make on Nairaland. What I'm not responsible for is making people understand me or buying my viewpoint(s). Don't quote this account on this issue again.




This once again proves how watery your working knowledge of the customs, traditions and history of the Yoruba really is.

So you don't know that paper was only present in civilizations that existed in ancient Egypt and some other Mediterranean cultures, and later in China in around 206 BC or so. Long story short, old Oyo empire did not have the luxury of papers or papyrus as it's called. We communicated using Dundun, Gangan, town criers, calabashes(like when the Oyomesi through the Bashorun presented the Alaafin with an empty calabash or a parrot's egg)

How is it possible for people to write their name on sand? are your brain cells dwindling by the minute?

Whatever else was around? hehe. It feels like I'm bandying words with a primary one Igbo boy that thinks he knows the alpha and omega of the Yoruba history.

Take my initial advise, nigga. Don't quote me on this issue again. On other threads we can discuss but I'm done on this thread with you. [/s]
See the mumu typing a dissertation to impress me...you must be stvpid. cheesy

So you didn't realize the question I asked you about how women in the old Oyo empire would write their names to signify identity, was only a deliberate attempt to draw you out on your bullshiit?
You're even slower than I thought... gringrin

Of course there was no paper or the relevant education necessary to be able to spell and write English words, neither would anyone be writing their name on sand since they can't spell - you couldn't smell hot cow shiit even if I splattered it all over your diick face. cheesy

Who said Aya means Mrs?
I said,
Aya - Wife of
Mrs - Wife of

But the drunkrebel says they not the same thing... grin

A woman addressed in public as Funke, omo Adegoke, Aya Adewale.
Now tell us doofus, how is it that you're seeing both her father's name and her husband's name therein but in your mind, she kept that of the father and NEVER took that of the husband? cheesy

Why did the naming not stop at Funke, omo Adegoke?
Dundee.. gringrin





And about quoting you again, call it a change of heart if you will.
After I saw your last response, I couldn't stop myself from coming out to make you look stvpid like I enjoy doing to weasels like you on this forum.
Oya please reply, let me finish you with superior reasoning...you will die today! cheesycheesy

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by crackhaus: 2:33pm On Jul 21, 2016
Stillfire:


Huh? I'm not privy to feminists women struggling for a Mrs. tag. I'm much privy to them rejecting that tag.
These women go by the title Ms. which is a neutral alternative to Miss or Mrs. This accords them ambiguity to marital status. It's like the Mr. title of men where there's no distinction given to married or single men. You can't tell if a man is married or not, neither can you tell if a woman is married with a Ms. title.
So feminists have something do with it afterall...

Hey darkenedrebel, lost little puppy with the lovelorn features of a wildebeest..how about you tell us why and how you think feminism has nothing to do with naming patterns? gringrin

Ode!

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by crackhaus: 2:39pm On Jul 21, 2016
darkenedrebel:


Resorting to juvenile side jibes when his think tank has run out of ideas. Well anticipated.

My ways have always been Bohemian. I'm not the type to jump on the bandwagon simply because I want to be accepted. So call me stigmatic or outlaw or maverick, it wouldn't change nada.
You don't know the meaning of the word, not to mention the right context to use it. gringrin

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Re: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jul 21, 2016
crackhaus:

You don't know the meaning of the word, not to mention the right context to use it. gringrin

Bohemian means unconventional, unorthodox. . . . . . .I said it in my post that I don't follow the bandwagon. Doesn't that tally with the Bohemian adjective that I used in my first statement? grin grin grin grin

You are not only a dullard. . . . .you're also a semi-illiterate grin grin

Stop quoting me, nigga. I'm done with you.

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