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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by CSTR12: 5:15pm On Jul 25, 2016
kayfra:


There is a remarkable difference between interstate wars (we had city-states) and inter clan wars. Cannibalism as a cultural practice was never documented or found in the West. We were just more civilized, facts you or I can't change.

Cannibalism was found in every nook and cranny of Nigeria in varying proportions. And even in the developed europe at a point in their history.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by kayfra: 5:16pm On Jul 25, 2016
CSTR12:
I don't where rival clans eat other rival clans in the east. It is the west i know that engages in very bloody communal conflicts.
Besides, democratic system in the east though not perfect was superior to anything in any other part of Nigeria.It could have undergone a lot of positive evolution with time.
Capitalism is individualistic. Even in america and western europe today, which is why we have the american dream where anybody can aspire to be anything as long you are able to work hard for it.Which is Why we have the global 1%.
Corporate capitalism whatever that means is more or less socialism or even communism.

America and Europe practice a mixed economy. There are too many social safety nets that calling them capitalists countries is laughable.

The only country that practices 100% capitalism is Somalia.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by stonemasonn: 5:16pm On Jul 25, 2016
36xtr39r:


Here's what Balarabe Musa had to say (which was collaborated by SLS) concerning your misinformation:

"... the Yoruba political leadership has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude."
My guy do not listen to a Hausa man for anything, I grew up in the core north and believe me if all regions were to develop at their pace without help from the center the Yorubas will gap the Hausas by miles. You should just study and understand the nature of the different major tribes with an open mind.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by MayorofLagos(m): 5:19pm On Jul 25, 2016
Correctly, there's no rivalry or hatred between Yoruba and Igbo. Igbo is envious of Yoruba political power and rulership and is desirable of gaining a similar power for itself. The problem is Ibo believes it is self sufficient and can grab this power on its own independent of sponsorship by the powerful Yoruba. Therefore at every turn Yoruba changes and redefines the political value chain resulting in intrigues Ibos find hard to comprehend. They thus outlash in frustration that Yoruba is betraying them.

The sooner Ibo can be exiled back to its ancestral roots in Congo the better for everybody left in Nigeria.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by kayfra: 5:20pm On Jul 25, 2016
CSTR12:
Cannibalism was found in every nook and cranny of Nigeria in varying proportions. And even in the developed europe at a point in their history.

Not in the West, I am referring to an official cultural endorsement of cannibalism not some random madman here and there.

You can convince me otherwise with new proof.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by CSTR12: 5:21pm On Jul 25, 2016
kayfra:


America and Europe practice a mixed economy. There are too many social safety nets that calling them capitalists countries is laughable.

The only country that practices 100% capitalism is Somalia.
Now you are bringing up a different issue.
Ofcourse , any sane country would have safety nets for the vulnerable and the poor. Iit dosen't make them less capitalistic.
The richest brands some of them owned in the world are in america. Some of them are owned by single individuals or families. America's defence industry is not even in the hands of the state.
APPLE corporation founded by one man steve jobs at a certain point had more raw cash in its disposal than the US government. You can never be more capitalistic than that.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by castrogee(m): 5:21pm On Jul 25, 2016
stonemasonn:
The Igbos are great and intelligent people in fact Igbo man can turn sand into gold anywhere in Africa, but their main problem is clannishness, and you know this breeds distrust and suspicion among their hosts. The Igbos should learn to be more liberal and open when they are outside Igboland especially where they seem to be progressing more than their host, I said this will avert unwarranted suspicion leading to hatred and jealousy....further to pogrom etc. my 2cent.


You've just made half sense. Let me agree with you that the Igbos are clannish, which BTW in my judgment is not bad. However, why will Igbos change there ways? Is it just because you said so, and if that is the case who are you to counsel us? How has being clannish prevented Igbos from making great exploits. Well, at least if you must know every tribe, race, or people on this planet earth has something good or bad about them and if being clannish makes us bad SO BE IT!

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 36xtr39r: 5:23pm On Jul 25, 2016
kayfra:
There is a remarkable difference between interstate wars (we had city-states) and inter clan wars. Cannibalism as a cultural practice was never documented or found in the West. We were just more civilized, facts you or I can't change.

This is hilarious indeed! It's an open secret that inspite of the supposed superior education of the Yorubas they seem not to be detached from ritual-killings and cannibalism. And that's why evil forests pervade Yoruba enclave.

In the SE the popular Okija shrine is not up to a local government area but in the SW a whole 2 States are dedicated to wicked deities - Ogun and Osun.

Till date many Yorubas rarely believe that one can achieve success without recourse to rituals. The notoriety of the Yoruba nation in this regard warranted a Kenyan to go into a research and was able to come up with a verdict that Yorubas are the most fetish tribe in Africa.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by kayfra: 5:24pm On Jul 25, 2016
CSTR12:
Now you are bringing up a different issue.
Ofcourse , any sane country would have safety nets for the vulnerable and the poor. Iit dosen't make them less capitalistic.
The richest brands in the world are in america. America's defence industry is not even in the hands of the state.
APPLE corporation founded by one man steve jobs at a certain point had more raw cash in its disposal than the US government. You can never be more capitalistic than that.

But fact remains that America practices a mixed economy. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obamacare, Section 8, WIC (food stamps), farm subsidies etc etc too many to list.

You find both system in the West. The east is just more dogged with their capitalism compared to other regions in Nigeria. It's both a strength and a weakness.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by kayfra: 5:26pm On Jul 25, 2016
36xtr39r:


This is hilarious indeed! It's an open secret that inspite of the supposed superior education of the Yorubas they seem not to be detached from ritual-killings and cannibalism. And that's why evil forests pervade Yoruba enclave.

In SE the popular Okija shrine is not up to a local government area but in the SW a whole 2 States are dedicated to wicked deities - Ogun and Osun.

Till date many Yorubas rarely believe that one can achieve success without recourse to rituals. The notoriety of the Yoruba nation in this regard warranted a Kenyan to go into a research and was able to come up with a verdict that Yorubas are the most fetish tribe in Africa.

Cannibalism is not equal to ritual killing.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by wristbangle: 5:33pm On Jul 25, 2016
sukkot:
it is impossible. it is biblical rivalry. yoruba is jacob and ndigbo is esau. we are brothers but born with spiritual enmity lolzzz

Professor sukkot gringringrin. I dey always feel your funny comments.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by stonemasonn: 5:34pm On Jul 25, 2016
castrogee:



You've just made half sense. Let me agree with you that the Igbos are clannish, which BTW in my judgment is not bad. However, why will Igbos change there ways? Is it just because you said so, and if that is the case who are you to counsel us? How has being clannish prevented Igbos from making great exploits. Well, at least if you must know every tribe, race, or people on this planet earth has something good or bad about them and if being clannish makes us bad SO BE IT!
'Half sense' lol you like the first part of the yarn abi? Anyway I support the op, southerners have to unite politically to succeed in Nigeria or even to secede.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by wristbangle: 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2016
sukkot:
just to further prove that everything written about in the bible is happening on earth today, if your spiritual eyes are open you will see it all, and to let you know igbo is esau and hence why the hatred for yoruba aka jacob. the name esau is derived from edom which means red earth and this is why all the land in the east is red soil. this is all biblical. then esau was cursed to be a wanderer and he will be wandering all over the globe as a wanderer and fugitive on exile which is why ndigbo travel everywhere in the world even to the remotest parts of the world. this all spiritual. the LORD has put it in their spirit to be wanderers. point being they are esau and have a PERFECT HATRED for yoruba who is jacob. so there can never be love between the two .

Hahahahaha grin

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by sukkot: 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2016
wristbangle:


Professor sukkot gringringrin. I dey always feel your funny comments.
Lollzzzzz bros salute hehe grin grin
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 36xtr39r: 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2016

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by CSTR12: 5:36pm On Jul 25, 2016
kayfra:


But fact remains that America practices a mixed economy. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obamacare, Section 8, WIC (food stamps), farm subsidies etc etc too many to list.

You find both system in the West. The east is just more dogged with their capitalism compared to other regions in Nigeria. It's both a strength and a weakness.
A mixed economy as practiced by america is not the kind you are trying to emphasize. Creating aid packages for the vulnerable does not make them less capitalistic. Capitalism is part of the american psyche
The east also has a similar socialistic programes for the poor. Imo state runs a free university courtesy of okorocha(i don't want to go into feasibility), other governors in the east have been known to give out LOANS. That is the kind of socialistic program i support anyway.
America gives free money to the poor, but that is because they can now afford to. Capitalism has created a lot of rich folks who can then be taxed by the state to cater for the poor.
Nigeria is not rich enough. Our socialistic program which we can not afford anyway is not productive.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by kayfra: 5:44pm On Jul 25, 2016
CSTR12:
A mixed economy as practiced by america is not the kind you are trying to emphasize. Creating aid packages for the vulnerable does not make them less capitalistic. Capitalism is part of the american psyche
The east also has a similar socialistic programes for the poor. Imo state runs a free university courtesy of okorocha(i don't want to go into feasibility), other governors in the east have been known to give out LOANS. That is the kind of socialistic program i support anyway.
America gives free money to the poor, but that is because they can now afford to. Capitalism has created a lot of rich folks who can then be taxed by the state to cater for the poor.
Nigeria is not rich enough. Our socialistic program which we can not afford anyway is not productive.

I thought our conversation was more driven by historical precedence than anything else. In 2016, one would expect each state to adopt elements of all economic systems that are beneficial. But that part of our culture that gave us our unique identities predates the exploration of the white man. That is what I am talking about. How Yoruba and Igbo are not rivals by any word. Just people with different mindsets and orientations.

America will always crow about capitalism since they like to pretend like they invented it. Nobody is doubting the merits of capitalism, hell, I am a capitalist myself. But let's not pretend like the system on its own is not dog eat dog. I gave you Somalia aa a pure capitalist country example.

Capitalism without aspects of socialism usually turns to a failed society.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Henrydone: 5:58pm On Jul 25, 2016
36xtr39r:


This is hilarious indeed! It's an open secret that inspite of the supposed superior education of the Yorubas they seem not to be detached from ritual-killings and cannibalism. And that's why evil forests pervade Yoruba enclave.

In the SE the popular Okija shrine is not up to a local government area but in the SW a whole 2 States are dedicated to wicked deities - Ogun and Osun.

Till date many Yorubas rarely believe that one can achieve success without recourse to rituals. The notoriety of the Yoruba nation in this regard warranted a Kenyan to go into a research and was able to come up with a verdict that Yorubas are the most fetish tribe in Africa.
Ill-mannered blinking idiot your heart is full of sand can you just give evidence for your yap write-up to make it substantial
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 36xtr39r: 6:08pm On Jul 25, 2016
Henrydone:
Ill-mannered blinking idiot your heart is full of sand can you just give evidence for your yap write-up to make it substantial

An accursed neanderthal savage of dirt, squalor, slavery, hate and propaganda ranting carelessly and senselessly...

https://www.nairaland.com/1433737/most-aduterous-fettish-tribe-africa-yoruba-kenyan-researcher

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Henrydone: 6:37pm On Jul 25, 2016
36xtr39r:


An accursed neanderthal savage of dirt, squalor, slavery, hate and propaganda ranting carelessly and senselessly...

https://www.nairaland.com/1433737/most-aduterous-fettish-tribe-africa-yoruba-kenyan-researcher
A barbaric barmy tribal bigot such a shame do you have to come here to unmask your exponential mental malady undecidedyou just made a circumstantial claim and you are referencing to a write-up not even realistic. To make such polemic write-up to a tribe is cockeyed and just too choleric sad sad

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by iroko2020(m): 6:49pm On Jul 25, 2016
stonemasonn:
The Igbos are great and intelligent people in fact Igbo man can turn sand into gold anywhere in Africa, but their main problem is clannishness, and you know this breeds distrust and suspicion among their hosts. The Igbos should learn to be more liberal and open when they are outside Igboland especially where they seem to be progressing more than their host, I said this will avert unwarranted suspicion leading to hatred and jealousy....further to pogrom etc. my 2cent.
i your point is interesting and genuinely given. But the igbos intermarry with the host communities and open up the place economically.There is no integration greater than that.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 7lives: 6:52pm On Jul 25, 2016
Aigbofa:


How many Ekenedili Chukwu buses landed in Lagos today? And you still don't want to have anything to do with them?
What if you want to have something to do with them? Your entire village will be on their way to Yorubaland?

Easy bro.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Nobody: 6:58pm On Jul 25, 2016
joborskill:
How can we put an end to the incessant e-fights and supremacy battles between this two southern tribes?


I think it's time to make peace so we can unite and take over the leadership of this country. The north keeps dominating the south politically because they are united and they exploit the divisions in the south for their political benefits. Let's sheath our swords and embrace peace.


Yoruba and igbo rivalry on Nairaland ends today

There is NO rivalry between Igbos and yorubas. Fact is: the Igbos are Superior to the yorubas. the World knows it. About southern unity, forget it. the SW must sojourn alone in the political wilderness they created for themselves. When eventually, they return to join their southern brothers, they would have lost all respect and would be an outcast.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Nobody: 7:03pm On Jul 25, 2016
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Realman87:


There is NO rivalry between Igbos and yorubas. Fact is: the Igbos are Superior to the yorubas. the World knows it. About southern unity, forget it. the SW must sojourn alone in the political wilderness they created for themselves. When eventually, they return to join their southern brothers, they would have lost all respect and would be an outcast.
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Igbos are the least respected in nigeria that's why they keep screaming biafra. Even the ijaws in the SS are more politically relevant than igbos. Never u compare igbo to yoruba.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by buharisbae(f): 7:05pm On Jul 25, 2016
Lol diff comment got me confused
my own is Yoruba and igbos are just cat and rat on NL but are bff in real life!

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 36xtr39r: 7:08pm On Jul 25, 2016
Henrydone:
A barbaric barmy tribal bigot such a shame do you have to come here to unmask your exponential mental malady undecidedyou just made a circumstantial claim and you are referencing to a write-up not even realistic. To make such polemic write-up to a tribe is cockeyed and just too choleric sad sad

A useless cretin from a carnivorous set of beings, you must be suffering from an abnormal psychological narcissism and seem not to even realize it. You're terribly sick and indeed undergoing an incubation period just like the HIV virus.

As if the numerous ritual-killings and cannibalism happening all around your juju-infested enclave aren't enough circumstantial evidence of Yoruba barbarism.

Useless, dimwitted bigot!

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jul 25, 2016
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Realman87:


There is NO rivalry between Igbos and yorubas. Fact is: the Igbos are Superior to the yorubas. the World knows it. About southern unity, forget it. the SW must sojourn alone in the political wilderness they created for themselves. When eventually, they return to join their southern brothers, they would have lost all respect and would be an outcast.
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Igbos are the least respected in nigeria that's why they keep screaming biafra after every failed attempt to gain political power. Even the ijaws in the SS are more politically relevant than igbos. Never u compare igbo to yoruba. Yorubas are kingmakers and the most educated and sophisticated tribe.
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jul 25, 2016
joborskill:
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Igbos are the least respected in nigeria that's why they keep screaming biafra. Even the ijaws in the SS are more politically relevant than igbos. Never u compare igbo to yoruba.

Sorry. continue deceiving yourself. The facts are there, find the books, ask the British colonialists, ask the americans, conduct research about slave trade, ... Igbo superiority is a fact the yorubas will never admit, but which the World knows. Good night.

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Nobody: 7:14pm On Jul 25, 2016
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36xtr39r:


A useless cretin from a carnivorous set of beings, you must be suffering from an abnormal psychological narcissism and seem not to even realize it. You're terribly sick and indeed undergoing an incubation period just like the HIV virus.

As if the numerous ritual-killings and cannibalism happening all around your juju-infested enclave aren't enough circumstantial evidence of Yoruba barbarism.

Useless, dimwitted bigot!
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Stop referring to the yoruba's as ritualist. Everyone in nigeria know cannibalism originated in the east. The evil okija shrine and the ritual sacrifice of the disbanded bakasi boys have no match. The only case of ritual killings reported in the SW is the discovery of soka forest in ibadan and the governor ordered the closure and arrest of the culprits. Yoruba's are not canines who munch human flesh. You igbos should look inward
Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by Henrydone: 7:16pm On Jul 25, 2016
Realman87:


There is NO rivalry between Igbos and yorubas. Fact is: the Igbos are Superior to the yorubas. the World knows it. About southern unity, forget it. the SW must sojourn alone in the political wilderness they created for themselves. When eventually, they return to join their southern brothers, they would have lost all respect and would be an outcast.
I do understand Igbo behavioral psychology and idiosyncrasy and Igbo only get a sense of esteem when he brags and give claim to himself that the reason why they are penchant for superiority contexts.Say anything it won't change anything neither undecided undecided

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by 36xtr39r: 7:30pm On Jul 25, 2016
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joborskill:
Stop referring to the yoruba's as ritualist. Everyone in nigeria know cannibalism originated in the east. The evil okija shrine and the ritual sacrifice of the disbanded bakasi boys have no match. The only case of ritual killings reported in the SW is the discovery of soka forest in ibadan and the governor ordered the closure and arrest of the culprits. Yoruba's are not canines who munch human flesh. You igbos should look inward
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You must be living in a fool's paradise to dare paint a juju-infested people in bright colours.

It's no longer news that Yorubaland is notorious for human parts business, with the headquarters situated in Soka Evil Forest, Ibadan. 

There's virtually no week that passes by without Yorubas being caught in ritual-killings and cannibalism. It's not out of place to aver that Yorubas are the most fettish, juju-dented beings in the world.

Yorubas shamelessly deploy juju and fetish charms at work, office, play, church, market, school, marriage and everywhere.

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Following the discovery of Soka Evil Forest in Ibadan, other ritualists dens in different forms were discovered across Yorubaland.
A ritualist den was discovered by a fly-over bridge at Ewekoro LGA on Abeokuta expressway. Another baby factory was discovered at Adigbe also in Abeokuta, same goes for a baby factory at Akute in Ifo LGA of Ogun state, these baby factories are sometimes the “BLACK MARKET” for ritualists who either has money to cough out or the lily livered among them who dread the fear of the long arm of the law as well as jungle justice in the event they got nabbed for kidnap.

Just when we thought we had seen and heard enough of this barbarism the news media was awashed with another news of another SOKA in Ado-Odo Ota LGA and Ifo LGA.

It's a pity and unfortunate that you can't twist the hard facts in the public domain to suit your narratives now: Yorubaland is the undisputed world capital of ritual-killings and cannibalism!

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Re: Igbo And Yoruba Rivalry by T8ksy(m): 7:35pm On Jul 25, 2016
Aigbofa:


How many Ekenedili Chukwu buses landed in Lagos today? And you still don't want to have anything to do with them?
What if you want to have something to do with them? Your entire village will be on their way to Yorubaland?


LoL....... Abi o jare!!!...........................And they probably will given half the chance.


They hate the northerners too who pogromised their sorry ar....ses which led to ojukwu making one of his infamous speeches that "once you have crossed this (imaginary) line, you are home safe" but now they are all over the same north like locusts. But when one points this out to them they are quick to mention, in their usual delusion of grandeur defence, chinese, American and british businessmen trooping to nigeria looking for investments.

As if, all the occupants of myriad ekene dili chukwu buses landing in different parts of yorubaland, every day are all businessmen/investors.
Or how many "chinese businessmen" have they witnessed running between traffic in the hot scorching mid-day sun in lagos selling cds from cardboard boxes?



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