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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:35pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
frumentius: First off, the 57mm on that vehicle simply would not be effective in the Nigeria battle-space, soldiers aren't actually fighting across mountains. Infact, that 57mm module is simply over-kill. As a platform the Mbombe 8 is modern, but it's a new platform that would require a lot more further testing. Price has to come into play, how much is it per unit, it also doesn't seem to have an amphibious variant. Personally if i were to make that decision, I'll stick with the Mbombe 4, until a better suited Mbombe 8 is available. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:43pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240: I was talking about the platform, not the weapons system you chaps would want to mount. And yea, that 57mm is ridiculous. I think you mean you'd stick with the Mbombe 6 ![]() |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:45pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
frumentius: Expensive, more fuel consumption and they prefer a constant rather than a fluctuating load. Turbo-prop should have been used instead. I agree. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:49pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
frumentius: As a platform, i think it requires additional testing. Aesthetically, it looks great and a 30mm would be more than adequate (I know what you said in your reply). However, I'll stick with the Mbombe 6 (thanks), seems like a more reliable system at this point. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:59pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240: Honestly I can't agree with you more on this vehicle. It's an excellent off-roader and I can't doubt their expertise when it comes to protection, it's also an MRAP so it fits current and future threats. As for tracked IFV, obviously something amphibious, I'll say we go for the BMP-3. "The main armament of the BMP-3 is one 100mm 2A70 semi-automatic rifled gun / missile launcher, which is stabilised in two axes and can fire either 3UOF HE-FRAG rounds or 3UBK10 anti-tank guided missiles. Effective range for the HE-FRAG round is 4,000m. Muzzle velocity is 250m/s. 22 HE-FRAG rounds can be carried in the automatic loader, total ammunition load being 40 rounds. Rate of fire is ten rounds a minute. The gun fires the 3UBK10 anti-tank guided missile round, which consists of the 9M117 laser beamriding missile and container. This missile is used in the Bastion missile system (Nato designation AT-10 Stabber). It can engage tanks with explosive reactive armour as well as slow, low-flying targets such as helicopters. The BMP-3 is fitted with an automatic fire control system with manual override for both gunner and commander. It includes a 1V539 ballistic computer, 2E52 electro-mechanical armament stabiliser and 1D16 laser rangefinder. Second armament includes one 30 mm 2A72 coaxial cannon and one 7.62 mm PKT coaxial machine gun. The dual-feed 30 mm 2A72 cannon can engage ground targets at ranges of 1,500 to 2,000 m and helicopters out to 4,000 m. It can fires a full range of ammunition as AP-I, HE-I and HE-T. Three smoke grenade dischargers are mounted on each side at the front of the turret. One 7.62 mm PKT machine gun is mounted either side of the hull, firing forwards and these are operated by one of the front three crew members."
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Seened: Dusty air-strips = rocks Rock + Jet Turbine = Multi-million dollar insurance claims If we had a vast fleet of turbo-prop C-130's or whatever, and we had money to spare we could get it as a dedicated domestic transport, or maybe a dedicated platform for the Para's. But we need a "go anywhere do anything" plane, which rules out turbines. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:17pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240: According to your old order of battle you have 6 mechanised battalions. If half get the MBOMBE, thats 708 units that will be needed, minimum. I started writing this post to point out it would be too expensive... but actually, $700 million is quite do-able over a long production run, say 5 years thats $150 million per annum. Not too bad. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:19pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko: BMP-3's performance in Yemen has been p1ss-poor. Paper thin armor, and troops have to exit by crouching, climbing over the engine and off the roof - exposing themselves to fire and slowing them down. There are better options. Pic very much related.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:35pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
patches689: I also thought about the Otokar Tulpar but I'm a bit skeptical about Turkish engineering plus that country is a little bit unpredictable. Who heard about the Turkish governments request to the presidency for Nigeria to shutdown all 17 Turkish schools in Nigeria ? 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 4:12pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko: most trukish equipment has US NATO technology,off course not the latest one,I would rather choose german made second hand equipment if possible,as Singapore did so. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:31pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
let me advice u from my experience get the vehicle from the continent (Africa) itself . u will get a optimized version which is already built to work flawlessly in the hot dry and trying conditions of Africa. it is a headache to get a system from colder countries and keep banging ur head when the engines , lubrication system , electronics break down under intense heat and dust. ask me i have faced it . diagnosing and location of the fault due to heat and dust is another headache , takes lots of time and money. get the sub systems from other sources like non hull penetrating RCWS which will require almost zero re-engineering of the carrier vehicle. armouring can be done depending on requirements be it field requirements or base requirements rest is self explanatory. 7 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:49pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
nemesis2u:Noted |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Seened: 6:18pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
patches689: @Patches689 Interesting. This got me wondering if the above is also a concern around the C17 Globemaster. (Henry240 pardon me for inserting a picture of an aircraft which no African country uses; I am merely curious. ![]()
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:17pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
OPERATION AWATSE: NIGERIAN AIR FORCE STRIKES CRIMINAL CAMPS AND HIDEOUTS AT AREPO AND ENVIRONS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7KwenfkKw0 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacretus(m): 9:04pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko:love this...i think the NAF in terms of PR is ahead of the NA nd NN.it hasn't got the quality though.hope they get more equipment to help in delivering the quality needed to boost our image. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sheyiofficial(m): 9:34pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Morocco Supports Nigeria
Militarily to Fight against Boko
Haram
By Youssef Igrouane -
August 1, 2016 , 2:31 pm
Rabat – Morocco has decided to support Nigeria
militarily in the fight against Boko Haram, a
terrorist organization based in Nigeria, Cameron
and Chad, according to French news website Le
Monde.
According to a Moroccan government official
quoted by Le Monde, King Mohammed VI has
authorized the provision of military equipment and
supplies- except for lethal munitions- to Nigeria,
in hope that giving military assistance to
Morocco’s traditional ally will help to fight the
recurrent incursions by Boko Haram in Nigeria.
“Discussions are still underway to decide the
exact nature of the military equipment and terms
and delivery’s procedures to the [Nigerian]
authorities.” The government’s official was quoted
by Le Monde as saying.
The decision to support Nigeria came after King
Mohammed VI formally requested to return to the
African Union (AU) via a message to the AU
summit in Rwanda two weeks ago.
This decision is regarded as an unprecedented
initiative from Morocco to supply the military
apparatus to help sub-Saharan countries to
combat terrorism.
Last June, Boko Haram committed a bombing
attack that killed at least 11 people in a mosque
in Cameroon.
In the same month, Medicins Sans Frontieres
reported that almost 200 Nigerian refugees who
escaped from Boko Haram have died from
starvation and malnutrition in the Bama refugee
camp, Nigeria.
Boko Haram recently joined ISIS and now calls
itself the “ISIS of West Africa” and claims that
Western education is a sin. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:08pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko: Very nice video. The Air Force needs to do away with those Alpha jets, they are becoming the "major source of my persistent eye problems". 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:12pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
pacretus: The NN used to be well ahead, but for sometime now, they have become invisible like we are "seeing a ghost movie". They need to up their game. We need those JF-17s since like yesterday, and if we can get Tucanos to replace those Alpha jets, that would simply go along way in improving general effectiveness of air operations. The Alpha jets simply need to go!! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:19pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Seened: The C-17 is for long haul flights only. So a Jet engine for it is very desirable. The C-17 and C-5 both have jet engines, and both are designed primarily for long haul flights. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:32pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240:lol. I find this to be awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--oFM-ghaw
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:47pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
N.A Gatling guns now confirmed. Tune in to NTA, part one of the progress report is airing now.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:49pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
tdayof: I was also laughing when the Optician was saying it........... That is, until i discovered he wasn't joking. That's the Camo all commandos under the Armed Forces Special Forces unit wear. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:12pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko: Unfortunately those in-charge of making the video don't know their own country's army. They added footage from the Malian army's operation against militants in Timboctou. A footage, Oje of beegeagle's blog intentionally captioned wrongly and shared on youtube. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:25pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240:Does the JF-17 have a stealth version ? ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 11:25pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240:eagle eye u got there so...it's official...NASFs r black berets |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:30pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
jakeporeshenko: For Tracked vehicles, i can't say, i watched "Tank vs Terrorist" which Patches689 shared last year and i hold a lot of admiration for the vehicle. It's an excellent amphibious vehicle, with heavy firepower. Tuplar from Turkey like you've highlighted is another good one, however it is a new, untested platform. It is a very nice vehicle though. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 11:33pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
tdayof:lol...man u sure do like "stealth" the JF-17 has DSI which gives it a bit stealth...prolly when aesa gets on it...it will b pretty stealthy |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:35pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:35pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
patches689: Nigerian ORBAT has changed over the years. I can also assure you that the Nigerian army as presently constituted would not order 708 IFVs. Those Civil war posturing is over. We won't see that, a maximum 300 vehicles is more a realistic posture. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:36pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:37pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240: I noticed the little clip at the end, does it mean these people legit can't identify Nigerian troops ? I was shocked when I saw it. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Katyusha(m): 11:37pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Henry240:Well, apart from that scene, the whole video was very impressive. Isn't this what we have been asking the N.A to produce all these years? Any hope of getting the Youtube links? |
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