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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 1:03am On Aug 04, 2016
Niflheim:
"So who is the messiah?".................................WRONG QUESTION!!!

"So what is the messiah?".................CORRECT QUESTION!!!

ANSWER TO CORRECT QUESTION: Your brain!!!

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 1:06am On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


The gospel has two meanings and one is the teaching of Christ . The other meaning is the account of His life . In Mark 8 : 35 , Christ used "gospel" to refer to his teachings .

Oh dear , this will certainly end in a debacle for you .
Oh dear gospel means good news!! So park well O don't entertain lies

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 1:08am On Aug 04, 2016
blessedvisky:


OK. So what next?
It has noting to do with me

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by nrexzy: 1:11am On Aug 04, 2016
Seek the wisdom of the Lord he would open ur eyes & direct ur path in finding eternity..

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 1:12am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

It has noting to do with me

OK then. So you know you're just gonna live a life filled with hate and frustration without any hope of salvation?? smiley

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 1:12am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

Oh dear gospel means good news!! So park well O don't entertain lies

Another interpretation is Christ's prescience coming into play . Prescience is the ability to foretell future events . So Christ is right again .

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 1:18am On Aug 04, 2016
blessedvisky:


OK then. So you know you're just gonna live a life filled with hate and frustration without any hope of salvation?? smiley
Filled with hate?? Hate for what??

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 1:19am On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Another interpretation is Christ's prescience coming into play . Prescience is the ability to foretell future events . So Christ is right again .
Nig*a focus on the topic!! The one I copied & paste
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 1:23am On Aug 04, 2016
blessedvisky:


OK then. So you know you're just gonna live a life filled with hate and frustration without any hope of salvation?? smiley

Mehn .These atheists are just too obsessed with God . The dude opened the account on July 31st and he is already opening topics upandan attacking Christians even as early as 1 am in the morning .

The baby who said his mother will not sleep will also not sleep .'

Attacking God and having needless arguments with Christians will only waste their time and resources . God will still remain God and there will always be Christians . Will making noise that Jesus is the false Christ change anything ? Will it put food on his table ? These atheists don't learn at all . They are not smart to see that they are the ones losing .

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 1:23am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

Filled with hate?? Hate for what??
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 1:24am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

Nig*a focus on the topic!! The one I copied & paste

Not now . The party starts in the morning . I'm up waiting for Chelsea vs AC Milan . You can keep waiting till morning though .
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 1:50am On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Mehn .These atheists are just too obsessed with God . The dude opened the account on July 31st and he is already opening topics upandan attacking Christians even as early as 1 am in the morning .

The baby who said his mother will not sleep will also not sleep .
Attacking God and having needless arguments with Christians will only waste their time and resources . God will still remain God and there will always be Christians . Will making noise that Jesus is the false Christ change anything ? Will it put food on his table ? These atheists don't learn at all . They are not smart to see that they are the ones losing .

I already asked him who the messiah is. He said none. I asked him what next then, he sed it's not his concern. Then why is he opening threads?.

One word OBSESSION

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 1:55am On Aug 04, 2016
blessedvisky:

I already asked him who the messiah is. He said none. I asked him what next then, he sed it's not his concern. Then why is he opening threads?.

One word OBSESSION
No I just want a quick development of African mentality then we could go to the next step

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Maamin(m): 3:14am On Aug 04, 2016
Another publicity stunt to defame the name of Christ and Christianity..don't you atheist ever get tired? grin

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 5:04am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

No I just want a quick development of African mentality then we could go to the next step

Look at this joker .. Lol . Weah96 this could be one of the "rogue theist " you were talking about . Dude is spewing vacuous trash in the name of "developing African mentality " . The whites were too religious and they still developed . Norway , England , Scotland , Ireland have strong Christian roots and they still developed MASSIVELY .

Only very dumb people think Christianity is a problem with Nigeria .

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by promise10: 6:07am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:
[size=18pt][/size] grin grin grin
This illiterate, the gospel is NOT a book, it is a message!!!!
God didn't give us a BOOK, he gave us a MESSAGE through his then prophets!
Gospel means goodnews!
And mind you that old testament is part of the gospel.

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by felixomor: 6:19am On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Look at this joker .. Lol . Weah96 this could be one of the "rogue theist " you were talking about . Dude is spewing vacuous trash in the name of "developing African mentality " . The whites were too religious and they still developed . Norway , England , Scotland , Ireland have strong Christian roots and they still developed MASSIVELY .

Only very dumb people think Christianity is a problem with Nigeria .

Spot On!!

Its like many of these guys nowadays just want attention by all means.
They dont even research the wrong stuff anymore let alone constructing it properly.

This one now doesnt even know wether his title is "atheist" or "antichrist",
Seems a confused dude.
I even wonder why he is posting articles under "religion"?

SMH...... sad

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by promise10: 7:06am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

Oh dear gospel means good news!! So park well O don't entertain lies
Anything can be a gospel to anybody. But the gospel that christianity preaches is the Gospel of JESUS christ!!!
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 8:14am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

I didnt wanted to start this thread with this. But for the sake of Anas09 And other Christians who refer to themself as "Christ Like" meaning jesus like which is wrong I find it Rather funny grin So M Gonna use this first section to educate u on what "christ" means!!


So now u get the point christ is not a name but a title meaning the messiah so saying "christlike" is Invalid Why?? Cause they are many christ(messiah) in the Bible!! so u should quit refrane from using that cause it could mean different things to different people! Saying "Christ like" is Like saying "Messiah like"


We know this. To be Christ-like means to live after the Likeness of Jesus the Christ!

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 8:27am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:
Jesus is a False Messiah
According to Jesus’ admissions, as well as the Bible’s prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah. This of course, would invalidate Christianity as we know it.

Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:

Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.
Indeed, we must look for a Messiah with the compound name - Wonderful, Counsellor, the Mighty God, The Everlasting Father!Isaiah 9:6
Mr, you know nothing about what you are writing!

The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.
and Mary was a biological descendant of Nathan, David's son!


Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled. [/b]

The child spoken of in that vs 16 is the one that was Isaiah's son connected to both kings in the beginning of the chapter:
Then said the Lord unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;
v3

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 8:40am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

Prophecies Christians Use to Verify Jesus as the Messiah, Yet Clearly Fail:
[b]

The gospels (especially Matthew 21:4 and John 12:14-15) claim that Jesus fulfills the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9. But the next few verses (Zechariah 9:10-13) show that the person referred to in this verse is a military king that would rule “from sea to sea”. Since Jesus had neither an army nor a kingdom, he could not have fulfilled this prophecy.
Indeed He would reign at His second coming. Revelations 20 and Zechariah 13,14 says more on this.
First His death prophesied in Daniel 9/Isaiah 53 had to be fulfilled.

Matthew (Matthew 2:17-18) quotes Jeremiah (Jeremiah 31:15), claiming that it was a prophecy of King Herod’s alleged slaughter of the children in and around Bethlehem after the birth of Jesus. But this passage refers to the Babylonian captivity, as is clear by reading the next two verses (Jeremiah 31:16-17), and, thus, has nothing to do with Herod’s massacre.
Meaning you dont understand the manner of prophesy fulfillment. We have the Types before the Substance. This is why we have passages were the Messiah was described variously as David or the Son of David.


John 19:33 says that during Jesus’ crucifixion, the soldiers didn’t break his legs because he was already dead. Verse John 19:36 claims that this fulfilled a prophecy: “Not a bone of him shall be broken.” But there is no such prophecy. It is sometimes said that the prophecy appears in Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12 & Psalm 34:20. This is not correct. Exodus 12:46 & Numbers 9:12 are not prophecies, they are commandments. The Israelites are told not to break the bones of the Passover lamb, and this is all it is about. And Psalm 34:20 seems to refer to righteous people in general (see verse Psalm 34:19, where a plural is used), not to make a prophecy about a specific person.
The Passover pointed to Him. Passover was the Type, He is the Substance! Clearly, you have ventured to the wrong area!


“When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.” Hosea 11:1. Matthew (Matthew 2:15) claims that the flight of Jesus’ family to Egypt is a fulfillment of this verse. But Hosea 11:1 is not a prophecy at all. It is a reference to the Hebrew exodus from Egypt and has nothing to do with Jesus. Matthew tries to hide this fact by quoting only the last part of the verse (“Out of Egypt I have called my son”).
It is a height of conceitedness interpreting a Book Whose Author you know NOTHING about!


“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Micah 5:2 The gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:5-6) claims that Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem fulfils this prophecy. But this is unlikely for two reasons.
[/b]

Jesus was born in Bethlehem!

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 8:42am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

“Bethlehem Ephratah” in Micah 5:2 refers not to a town, but to a clan: the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb’s second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chronicles 2:18, 2:50-52 & 4:4).

The prophecy (if that is what it is) does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from Micah 5:6. This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did. It should also be noted that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: “And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah” rather than “Bethlehem Ephratah” as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make this verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan.


Indeed, Matthew is on Nairaland isnt it? and his audience where 21st centuries ignoramuses as far as history is concerned, am i right?

For one writing to a jewish audience, no alterations would be attempted because the audience were unlike us, more knowledgeable about these things.

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by EmperorLee(m): 8:57am On Aug 04, 2016
A fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by otemanuduno: 9:04am On Aug 04, 2016
EmperorLee:
A fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
Anyone who says 'THERE IS NO GOD' is not a fool. Ask me why? When all the fools calling themselves ALMIGHTY GOD are actually not the ALMIGHTY GOD, what do you expect intelligent people to think?

Imagine Yahweh and Yeshua his son putting themselves before humans as the ALMIGHTY GOD and yet they have no single scientific knowledge or knowledge of the universe.

Well... the kingdom of the ALMIGHTY GOD is here, let all the worshippers of the false god called Yahweh clear off the way. ALMIGHTY GOD, the one who made the brain of Muafrika2, Anas09, Naijadeyhia, Winner01 and Kingebukanaija does not demand being worshipped or worshipping Yahweh his son. But he wants all homos to tap far into their brains and do good to fellow human beings.

BLESS GOD!!!

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by EmperorLee(m): 9:10am On Aug 04, 2016
otemanuduno:

Anyone who says 'THERE IS NO GOD' is not a fool. Ask me why? When all the fools calling themselves ALMIGHTY GOD are actually not the ALMIGHTY GOD, what do you expect intelligent people to think?

Imagine Yahweh and Yeshua his son putting themselves before humans as the ALMIGHTY GOD and yet they have no single scientific knowledge or knowledge of the universe.

Well... the kingdom of the ALMIGHTY GOD is here, let all the worshippers of the false god called Yahweh clear off the way. ALMIGHTY GOD, the one who made the brain of Muafrika2, Anas09, Naijadeyhia, Winner01 and Kingebukanaija does not demand being worshipped or worshipping Yahweh his son. But he wants all homos to tap far into their brains and do good to fellow human beings.

BLESS GOD!!!


You think you have made sense? You think you are intelligent?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing and the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight.





Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 9:22am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:
Statements Jesus Made Which Are False:
Jesus in John 14:12 & Mark 16:17-18 said: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” This implies that Jesus’ true followers should be able to routinely perform the following tricks:
1) cast out devils
2) speak in tongues
3) take up serpents
4) drink poisons without harm, and
5) cure the sick by touching them and MANY other of Jesus’ “works”. Curiously I have yet to see a Christian that can do any of the above on demand.
Even Jesus did not do them on demand! Ask Herod Luke 23:8 and the Pharisees who asked for a sign!


In John 14:13-14 Jesus stated: “And whatsoever ye ask in my name I do, that the Father may be glorified in the son. If ye ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” In reality, millions of people have made millions of requests in Jesus’ name and failed to receive satisfaction. This promise or prophecy has failed completely.
This is no ' close your eyes,make a wish' issue! Did you notice the phrase, "In My Name"? Do you know the implication? Study that phrase in John.(Jesus came in The Father's Name, what does this imply?)


Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthian 15:14-17). Yet Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 that he would be buried three days and three nights as Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights. Friday afternoon to early Sunday morning is only one and a half days, so he could not have been the messiah by his own and Paul’s admission.
In Jewish parlance morning is counted as a full day. That is why though Esther commanded a 3 days and 3 nights fast before approaching the king for her people, she went to him on the third day (not third night) hence the audience there knew perfectly what He meant.


Jesus’ prophecy in John 13:38 (“The cock shall not crow, till thou [Peter] hast denied me three times”) is false. Mark 14:66-68 shows the cock crowed after the first denial, not the third.
Irrelevant to the substance and purpose of the Gospels.


In Mark 10:19 Jesus said: “Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, do not steal, do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.” Jesus needs to re-read the Ten Commandments. There is no Old Testament commandment against defrauding. The only relevant statement about defrauding is in Leviticus 19:13 , which says : “Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor.” This is an OT law, but is not listed with the Ten Commandments. Surely, if Jesus was god incarnate he would know the commandments.
And where did Jesus indicate He was quoting the 10 commandments? Read the Pentateuch and see that there were MANY commandments apart from the ones Moses received called the Ten commandments!


“And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven” (John 3:13). If Jesus is in heaven, how can he be down on earth speaking? Moreover, according to 2 Kings 2:11 (“and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven”) Jesus was not the only person to ascend into heaven, nor was he the first. Elijah preceded him and apparently Enoch did also (“And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him”–Genesis 5:24). [/b]
Do search NL, this matter has been over thrashed.

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by otemanuduno: 9:24am On Aug 04, 2016
EmperorLee:



You think you have made sense? You think you are intelligent?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing and the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight.



Yeshua, the firstborn of all gods have deceived this one. May Almighty God open your brain to know that you are in a great bondage to Eusebius and Faulkin(Yeshua)the authors and the finishers of your FAITH. I pity you undecided
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by EmperorLee(m): 9:27am On Aug 04, 2016
otemanuduno:


Yeshua, the firstborn of all gods have deceived this one. May Almighty God open your brain to know that you are in a great bondage to Eusebius and Faulkin(Yeshua)the authors and the finishers of your FAITH. I pity you undecided


My people perish from a lack of knowledge
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by felixomor: 9:28am On Aug 04, 2016
otemanuduno:


Yeshua, the firstborn of all gods have deceived this one. May Almighty God open your brain to know that you are in a great bondage to Eusebius and Faulkin(Yeshua)the authors and the finishers of your FAITH. I pity you undecided

U r quoting people's articles and u claim someone else is deceived. SMH

Pls how do u urself know u av not been deceived?

Just asking.

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Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Park01: 9:32am On Aug 04, 2016
felixomor:


U r quoting people's articles and u claim someone else is deceived. SMH

Pls how do u urself know u av not been deceived?

Just asking.
good morning boss!

Hope you doing good?
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by otemanuduno: 9:32am On Aug 04, 2016
EmperorLee:



My people perish from a lack of knowledge

That's your people, not me. I am so full of knowledge that I can tell you the knowledge hidden from you, because I have seen the compiler of your faith face to face. His name is EUSEBIUS.
he attacked me with a sword to stop me from making the TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSE KNOWN.

okay, let me ask these few questions if you feel that you actually know everything that is happening?

1. Where did Yeshua die?
2. When exactly did Yeshua die?
3. How did Yeshua die?
4. Who are Anakims?
5. Who is actually Melchizedek?
6. Who is actually Allah?
7. What is actually the offence of Egypt against Israel?
8. When was the world made?
9. Who is actually SATAN?

Thousands of questions like this are under my knowledge.
Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Scholar8200(m): 9:36am On Aug 04, 2016
AmenRa1:

In Luke 23:43 Jesus said to the thief on the cross, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” This obviously has to be false, for Jesus was supposed to lay dead in the tomb for three days following his crucifixion.
This is what happens when we venture into that of which we have no knowledge. Paradise and Hell are separated by a big gulf. After death, Jesus went to both.


Jesus says : “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy” (Matthew 5:43). This statement does not exist in the OT either. In fact, Proverbs 24:17 says, “Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth…”
Did Jesus quote the commandments or refer to a statement popular to the pharisees who were the religious leaders of His day? Mark 7 gives another such thrashing out of their erroneous additions!



Jesus is reported to say: “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it” (Luke 16:16). Certainly every man is not pressing to enter the kingdom of God. The very fact that I am an atheist (one third of the world’s population does not believe in a god) proves this verse to be false.
Jesus clearly knew of Judas and the jews that forsook Him when He said this, what then? Not every one presses according to knowledge!


“Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the Sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?” (Matthew 12:5) Nowhere does the OT state that the priests in the temple profaned the Sabbath and were considered blameless.
*sighs deeply* They worked on the sabbath contrary to the laws of the Sabbath of no work! Mr, face your thread on some high sounding nothings!

“Yea; have ye never read, ‘Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise'” (Matthew 21:16). Jesus is quoting Psalm 8:2, which says, “Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies…”. “Perfect praise” has little to do with “ordaining strength because of thine enemies.” Another misquotation!
Indeed, praise is where our strength lies, the Wall of Jericho fell at the sound of praise/triumph! Implication? Jesus, the Teacher come from God, was here quoting that verse in application.[/b]


“But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him” (Mark 9:13). There are no prophecies in the OT of things that were to happen to Elijah.
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The highlighted was just a personal commentary see Matthew 17:12

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