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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:58am On Aug 04, 2016
Henry240:
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The fourth OPV for Chilean Navy is to be launched on 3 August at ASMAR's shipyard in Talcahuano. Source:
Chilean Navy Chilean shipbuilder ASMAR (Astilleros y Maestranzas de la Armada) is to launch the fourth Patrullero de Zona Maritime (PZM) offshore patrol vessel for the Chilean Navy on 3 August, a navy spokesperson told IHS Jane's on 1 August.

Chile Independence : 1810

Chile Population : 18 million people

Chile GDP : $457 billion

Chile Per Capita : $25,000
How stealthy is NNS centenary? It doesn't seem to negate right angles by its design which is one crucial criteria ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:09am On Aug 04, 2016
Man, as Africans we need to rely task ourselves and get building a significant portion of the equipment we use in defence. I mean, look at Chile, a country of only 18 million people( Lagos State in Nigeria has a larger population than the entire Chile), building massive size ships for their navy.



The best part is, they aren't trying to re-invent any wheel. They are building German Ships from Fassmer, under license in Chile, and are also exporting same Ships to countries such as Colombia. In Indonesia, their shipbuilding company partnered with Damen of the Netherlands to build Frigates in-country.


I find it unfortunate that these countries, although they have some advantages in the number of years they've been independent and have very decent per capita are building ships such as the above, while in Nigeria, it takes the Nigerian Navy 4 years each to build, one(1) 31 meters Coastal patrol boat(CPV), One (1) 40 meters CPV and another 4 years to build 1 Tug boat. Culminatively 12 years to build 3 boats.



We really need to look at the methods we do things on this continent, Countries need to pull their weights as they are massively under-performing.



My 2 Kobo.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:50am On Aug 04, 2016
tdayof:
How stealthy is NNS centenary? It doesn't seem to negate right angles by its design which is one crucial criteria ?

It is very stealthy, according to the developers(CSOC), this 92 meters ship turns up as a small boat on Radar.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:05am On Aug 04, 2016
Henry240:
Man, as Africans we need to rely task ourselves and get building a significant portion of the equipment we use in defence. I mean, look at Chile, a country of only 18 million people( Lagos State in Nigeria has a larger population than the entire Chile), building massive size ships for their navy.



The best part is, they aren't trying to re-invent any wheel. They are building German Ships from Fassmer, under license in Chile, and are also exporting same Ships to countries such as Colombia. In Indonesia, their shipbuilding company partnered with Damen of the Netherlands to build Frigates in-country.


I find it unfortunate that these countries, although they have some advantages in the number of years they've been independent and have very decent per capita are building ships such as the above, while in Nigeria, it takes the Nigerian Navy 4 years each to build, one(1) 31 meters Coastal patrol boat(CPV), One (1) 40 meters CPV and another 4 years to build 1 Tug boat. Culminatively 12 years to build 3 boats.



We really need to look at the methods we do things on this continent, Countries need to pull their weights as they are massively under-performing.



My 2 Kobo.
This is a nice write up. However, the countries you mentioned are countries who are willing to invest and improve her capability. These are countries ready to invest in R & D without minding the amount spent even tho it results into a failed project. First of all i do not know much about ships but i will take my own opinion on our aircraft. I take gulma UAV as something not too special. I have seen fellow Nigerian Aerospace students build much more advanced UAV and radar systems for their UAV's here in my school. Nigerian government should be able to invest in students like this and try reverse engineering with UAV, military jets and even radar systems. How much will it cost the government to buy a UAV for practical reasons.
International students are banned from using some labs and engineering centers in my school because Nigerian students were able to win their host in a particular aerospace engineering competition. I guessed that's why some of our jets were demilitarized so much to some extent.
Nigerians, we are really talented and I just hope the government can encourage us. We are really shining , doing our best but the government seems not to notice anything .

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 1:22pm On Aug 04, 2016
Wonderful piece of engineering.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:26pm On Aug 04, 2016
Henry240:
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The fourth OPV for Chilean Navy is to be launched on 3 August at ASMAR's shipyard in Talcahuano. Source:
Chilean Navy Chilean shipbuilder ASMAR (Astilleros y Maestranzas de la Armada) is to launch the fourth Patrullero de Zona Maritime (PZM) offshore patrol vessel for the Chilean Navy on 3 August, a navy spokesperson told IHS Jane's on 1 August.

Chile Independence : 1810

Chile Population : 18 million people

Chile GDP : $457 billion

Chile Per Capita : $25,000

Free market economy + Chicago school of economics + very conservative fiscal policy = beast economy and good quality of living

Do yourself a favour... google their army, it has a Prussian heritage. They look like Nazis grin grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Katyusha(m): 2:02pm On Aug 04, 2016
patches689:


Free market economy + Chicago school of economics + very conservative fiscal policy = beast economy and good quality of living

Do yourself a favour... google their army, it has a Prussian heritage. They look like Nazis grin grin grin grin
Yeah..Chilean Army uniforms look so much like Wehrmacht uniforms...
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 3:25pm On Aug 04, 2016
tdayof:
This is a nice write up. However, the countries you mentioned are countries who are willing to invest and improve her capability. These are countries ready to invest in R & D without minding the amount spent even tho it results into a failed project. First of all i do not know much about ships but i will take my own opinion on our aircraft. I take gulma UAV as something not too special. I have seen fellow Nigerian Aerospace students build much more advanced UAV and radar systems for their UAV's here in my school. Nigerian government should be able to invest in students like this and try reverse engineering with UAV, military jets and even radar systems. How much will it cost the government to buy a UAV for practical reasons.
International students are banned from using some labs and engineering centers in my school because Nigerian students were able to win their host in a particular aerospace engineering competition. I guessed that's why some of our jets were demilitarized so much to some extent.
Nigerians, we are really talented and I just hope the government can encourage us. We are really shining , doing our best but the government seems not to notice anything .
Till date I do not understand what is actually wrong here..For instance,The NDDC&NNPC gives MSc&PhD scholarship to Nigerians so as to boost self reliance in petroleum engineering and the likes
I wonder what goes on in other sectors..I bliv if at least each arm of the military sidelines about 10% of its budget into growing its respective projects..a bit of turnaround will set in
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 3:28pm On Aug 04, 2016
Odunayaw:
Till date I do not understand what is actually wrong here..For instance,The NDDC&NNPC gives MSc&PhD scholarship to Nigerians so as to boost self reliance in petroleum engineering and the likes
I wonder what goes on in other sectors..I bliv if at least each arm of the military sidelines about 10% of its budget into growing its respective projects..a bit of turnaround will set in
Exactly. You know what I feel like there is someone at the top who prefers Nigeria buying her military hardware so he or she can see something to take from it than the government investing in talented Nigerians for us to be able to manufacture and produce to other countries. I actually think the root of this issue is corruption.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by rugged7(m): 3:38pm On Aug 04, 2016
Royal Air Force Regiment’s 5 Force Protection Wing Supports NAF in base protection and security
RAF Regiment supports Nigerian Forces in counter – terror training

Nigerian Air Force discussing the plan with RAF Regiment.

Personnel from the Royal Air Force Regiment’s No 5 Force Protection Wing (5 FP Wg) recently returned from Nigeria, where they helped train the Nigerian Air Force to protect its personnel and aircraft involved in counter-insurgency fighting. A team from 5 FP Wg and 51 Squadron RAF Regiment, usually based at RAF Lossiemouth in Moray, deployed to Nigeria to deliver bespoke military training at the request of the British Military Advisory and Training Team (BMATT) in Nigeria

Working with the RAF Force Protection Centre at RAF Honington, 5 FP Wg designed a programme to train 100 newly qualified airmen and 8 officers of the Nigerian Air Force Regiment to defend Nigerian Air Force forward operating bases involved in the fight against insurgent activity in Nigeria. RAF Regiment trainers also mentored their Nigerian counterparts at the Nigerian Air Force Ground Training Centre so that they can replicate the RAF Regiment’s training, and to enhance their own training capability for the future.

Wing Commander John Rees, Officer Commanding 5 FP Wg, led the RAF Regiment’s training team. He said: “We had a great, traditional welcome from the Nigerian staff and Air Force personnel when we arrived at the base. Everyone was very accommodating – helping us to settle in to our facilities and getting the training areas prepared.

“The senior Nigerian Air Force officers were fully committed and supportive of us as we began to deliver this busy and exciting programme of training. As well drawing on our expertise and experiences from recent combat operations to provide this training, we were able to learn from the Nigerian Air Force personnel as they combat terrorist threats.”

Training happened in three phases. During the Foundation training package, RAF Regiment instructors worked to confirm and enhance the Nigerian Air Force Regiment’s life-saving ‘ground-sign awareness skills’. During this phase, Nigerian Air Force Regiment officers were given focused training on planning for force protection operations.

Nigerian Air Force counting scores with RAF Regiment.

The next phase included minefield extraction training, vehicle and personnel searches and the ability to locate and react to improvised explosive device strikes and indirect fire attacks. RAF Regiment instructors also refreshed their counterparts’ navigation skills and delivered battlefield exercises and training. Nigerian personnel also went through exercises to enhance the ‘soft skills’ needed by Nigerian Air Force Regiment teams working among villages on counter-insurgency operations.

The final phase of training included a physically and mentally demanding four-day exercise, based on all the training the Nigerians had received to date. Wing Commander Rees said: “The exercise was as realistic as we could make it to test and confirm the training we were able to provide to the Nigerian Air Force through the British Military Advisory Training Team.

“We’re grateful for the support provided by the Nigerian Air Force in enabling us to make the most of the short term training task. Our RAF Force Protection instructors have provided a professional and challenging bespoke training package that has drawn on the RAF Regiment’s operational experiences. We have worked closely with the Nigerian Air Force to enhance the counter-insurgency skills needed to combat terrorists that threaten this, and neighboring countries.”

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/raf-regiment-supports-nigerian-forces-08032016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 3:53pm On Aug 04, 2016
tdayof:
Exactly. You know what I feel like there is someone at the top who prefers Nigeria buying her military hardware so he or she can see something to take from it than the government investing in talented Nigerians for us to be able to manufacture and produce to other countries. I actually think the root of this issue is corruption.
oh yh
the corruption here is an illiterate one bro
whoever the bat is... has he thought of setting something like what proforce has going on and lobby to get his products bought
anytym I think of our GDP and our per capita,I just get sweaty
I do not even want to start thinking of a robotic engineer I had as a friend...d guy was frustrated to d extent he "ran away" from nigeria

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:42pm On Aug 04, 2016
préselection tests in Algerian army for new recruits who want to join the DSI (a gendarms SF)


02 month of tests 2010


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7LlEv7dBoQ
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:26pm On Aug 04, 2016
Algerian police special force " GOSP " work same like the french " RAID" unit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWOCdo48lac

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:55pm On Aug 04, 2016
rugged7:
Royal Air Force Regiment’s 5 Force Protection Wing Supports NAF in base protection and security
RAF Regiment supports Nigerian Forces in counter – terror training

Nigerian Air Force discussing the plan with RAF Regiment.

Personnel from the Royal Air Force Regiment’s No 5 Force Protection Wing (5 FP Wg) recently returned from Nigeria, where they helped train the Nigerian Air Force to protect its personnel and aircraft involved in counter-insurgency fighting. A team from 5 FP Wg and 51 Squadron RAF Regiment, usually based at RAF Lossiemouth in Moray, deployed to Nigeria to deliver bespoke military training at the request of the British Military Advisory and Training Team (BMATT) in Nigeria

Working with the RAF Force Protection Centre at RAF Honington, 5 FP Wg designed a programme to train 100 newly qualified airmen and 8 officers of the Nigerian Air Force Regiment to defend Nigerian Air Force forward operating bases involved in the fight against insurgent activity in Nigeria. RAF Regiment trainers also mentored their Nigerian counterparts at the Nigerian Air Force Ground Training Centre so that they can replicate the RAF Regiment’s training, and to enhance their own training capability for the future.

Wing Commander John Rees, Officer Commanding 5 FP Wg, led the RAF Regiment’s training team. He said: “We had a great, traditional welcome from the Nigerian staff and Air Force personnel when we arrived at the base. Everyone was very accommodating – helping us to settle in to our facilities and getting the training areas prepared.

“The senior Nigerian Air Force officers were fully committed and supportive of us as we began to deliver this busy and exciting programme of training. As well drawing on our expertise and experiences from recent combat operations to provide this training, we were able to learn from the Nigerian Air Force personnel as they combat terrorist threats.”

Training happened in three phases. During the Foundation training package, RAF Regiment instructors worked to confirm and enhance the Nigerian Air Force Regiment’s life-saving ‘ground-sign awareness skills’. During this phase, Nigerian Air Force Regiment officers were given focused training on planning for force protection operations.

Nigerian Air Force counting scores with RAF Regiment.

The next phase included minefield extraction training, vehicle and personnel searches and the ability to locate and react to improvised explosive device strikes and indirect fire attacks. RAF Regiment instructors also refreshed their counterparts’ navigation skills and delivered battlefield exercises and training. Nigerian personnel also went through exercises to enhance the ‘soft skills’ needed by Nigerian Air Force Regiment teams working among villages on counter-insurgency operations.

The final phase of training included a physically and mentally demanding four-day exercise, based on all the training the Nigerians had received to date. Wing Commander Rees said: “The exercise was as realistic as we could make it to test and confirm the training we were able to provide to the Nigerian Air Force through the British Military Advisory Training Team.

“We’re grateful for the support provided by the Nigerian Air Force in enabling us to make the most of the short term training task. Our RAF Force Protection instructors have provided a professional and challenging bespoke training package that has drawn on the RAF Regiment’s operational experiences. We have worked closely with the Nigerian Air Force to enhance the counter-insurgency skills needed to combat terrorists that threaten this, and neighboring countries.”

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/raf-regiment-supports-nigerian-forces-08032016
Mr RUGGED7
Thank you for the update as painful as it might sound the Nigerian Armed Forces needs up dated skills and appropriate training. The boko haram insurgency has shown especially with the attack on the MAIDUGURI AIRPORT which costs Nigeria two of it's latest MI-35 in 2014 how unprepared the Nigerian Armed Forces really were. Nigeria needs to really hone the skills of their nascent QRF of the NAF that are just beginning to come into existence , they must be brought up to speed due to the troubled clouds ahead both in the North east (DRY SEASON) and the N-Delta.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 7:31pm On Aug 04, 2016
LTGEN:

Mr RUGGED7
Thank you for the update as painful as it might sound the Nigerian Armed Forces needs up dated skills and appropriate training. The boko haram insurgency has shown especially with the attack on the MAIDUGURI AIRPORT which costs Nigeria two of it's latest MI-35 in 2014 how unprepared the Nigerian Armed Forces really were. Nigeria needs to really hone the skills of their nascent QRF of the NAF that are just beginning to come into existence , they must be brought up to speed due to the troubled clouds ahead both in the North east (DRY SEASON) and the N-Delta.
I hope to see the NAF QRF collaborating with SSW of the Pakis.....those guys have some skills we direly need
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 8:09pm On Aug 04, 2016
ZW @ the International Army Games

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 8:11pm On Aug 04, 2016
ZW @ the International Army Games

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:56pm On Aug 04, 2016
nganduh:
ZW @ the International Army Games
Great pictures!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:01pm On Aug 04, 2016
US special forces operating alongside cameroonian BIR in Cameroon.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 04, 2016
nganduh:
ZW @ the International Army Games
Great photos from Zim.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:36pm On Aug 04, 2016
patches689:


Free market economy + Chicago school of economics + very conservative fiscal policy = beast economy and good quality of living

Do yourself a favour... google their army, it has a Prussian heritage. They look like Nazis grin grin grin grin

Yeah, i noticed they look like Nazis, what an odd choice of uniform. Are they German descendants, the Chileans?


Anyway, my point about their Naval shipbuilding is, they are trying to invent any wheel. Instead are partnering with the Germans, that shouldn't be difficult to execute from an African perspective.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 04, 2016
South-African Air Force

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 9:52pm On Aug 04, 2016
A "couple" more

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 9:53pm On Aug 04, 2016
Sorry for the watermarks on these:

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:04pm On Aug 04, 2016
nganduh:
A "couple" more
Please post as much as you can, all photos with Zim and Angola in them, post.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 10:22pm On Aug 04, 2016
Henry240:


Please post as much as you can, all photos with Zim and Angola in them, post.

Unfortunately Angola lost a guy in a mortar accident at the competitions. Another 2 or 3 injured:

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 10:57pm On Aug 04, 2016
ZW

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 11:04pm On Aug 04, 2016
ZW 2

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 11:06pm On Aug 04, 2016
ZW 3

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nganduh: 11:34pm On Aug 04, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tsdarkside(m): 2:29am On Aug 05, 2016
Henry240:
Man, as Africans we need to rely task ourselves and get building a significant portion of the equipment we use in defence. I mean, look at Chile, a country of only 18 million people( Lagos State in Nigeria has a larger population than the entire Chile), building massive size ships for their navy.



The best part is, they aren't trying to re-invent any wheel. They are building German Ships from Fassmer, under license in Chile, and are also exporting same Ships to countries such as Colombia. In Indonesia, their shipbuilding company partnered with Damen of the Netherlands to build Frigates in-country.


I find it unfortunate that these countries, although they have some advantages in the number of years they've been independent and have very decent per capita are building ships such as the above, while in Nigeria, it takes the Nigerian Navy 4 years each to build, one(1) 31 meters Coastal patrol boat(CPV), One (1) 40 meters CPV and another 4 years to build 1 Tug boat. Culminatively 12 years to build 3 boats.



We really need to look at the methods we do things on this continent, Countries need to pull their weights as they are massively under-performing.



My 2 Kobo.

we have lazy minds...we think,do little,achieve most...i think the black race was always like this...as nothing to do with others putting us down...we can solve that by teaching our children to: do more,achieve more...this latest generation you can forget....tooooo lazy..

myyyy 2 kobo....

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tsdarkside(m): 6:03am On Aug 05, 2016
nganduh:
ZW @ the International Army Games

nigeria can not catch up with the rest of africa no more because something as simple as paying electricity bill becomes a debatt!!!..we want everything free,while sleeping under the palmwine tree!!!...

we have alot of certificated mofos...but very very few archi3vers..

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