Ifeann is Idol worshipper and she is going to hell,annunaki is not a Christian - truthman2012...never see any group as confused as dis chriatains

Drinkwater06:

According to the Catholic catechism' as regards this (parisbookaddict should be reading this as well cuz I see he was trying to deny this):

"PART ONE
THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
SECTION TWO
THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
CHAPTER ONE
I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER
ARTICLE I
"I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH"
Paragraph 2. The Father
I. "IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT"
232 Christians are baptized "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"53 Before receiving the sacrament, they respond to a three-part question when asked to confess the Father, the Son and the Spirit: "I do." "The faith of all Christians rests on the Trinity."54 http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm

Whereas Annunaki2 faith is not tested on this which automatically makes him a non Christian.

Oya find another lie

Yes thats the teaching and process according the the catholics,The baptists and some other denominations as well if i remember correctly..
I dont know how he was baptised but my opinion is that i hope God accepts his baptism.

Read about the 30 years war, perhaps they were tickling their toes. But then, have you ever admonish ifeann and parisbookaddict?

Its no secret that christians had a 30 year war in europe. Muslims have been killing eachother for 1400 years including last week when sunnis bombed a shia community/mosque in iraq..
Christians in europe misbehaved back then.. but they have grown to accept eachother have muslims done that?

I'm not telling you to force anybody, but would you rather sit down and watch your fellow brethren err when you know that the result is hell fire? Is that an act of love?


What's your definition of holy life? Are Catholics living an holy life? Remember you said they worship idol

Worshiping idols..?? Really.. show me a catholic document or in the catechism that teaches idol worship... If u want to see idol worship google Hinduism or muslims veneration of the kabba and kissing of the black stone

I wouldn't have done anything because I'm not a fanatic like you. But then I wonder the kind of face you show with Muslims in your neighborhood because your hatred for Muslims is something else.



You obviously didn't get my point.



Same way it is beyond annunaki's comprehension too?

If u are christian and practising too u are forbidden to hate anyone including muslims..perosnally i have a handful /shrinking handful of muslim relatives and a few muslim friends. I cant possibly hate them no matter how objectionable their ideological affiliation is. however hating, detesting and crticizing the teachings of islam is fine by me... and is very necessary. .

parisbookaddict:


Dude dont drink too much beer.. we need your head clear to address these sowers of discord

Having gone through this thread, the motive of the OP is clear to me, therefore I have decided not to dignify this thread by addressing the issues raised. And to the op my advice to you is to remove the log(disaster islam represents) in your eye instead of worrying about the speck(mis-understandings in christianity) in another person's eye.

Drinkwater06:

lol.funny set of people with wack reasoning

Drinkwater06:
ANNUNAKI'S view on Catholic and Trinity.


https://www.nairaland.com/3086804/annunaki-read-old-testament#45332404

We should note that both truthman2012 and parisbookaddict subscribe to Trinity which makes them a false Christian according to annunaki.

Truthman2012 and parisbookaddict both believe those who don't believe in the Trinity concept of God are false Christian and are going to hell, unless they want to state otherwise here.

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TRUTHMAN2012 VIEW ON CATHOLICISM

Truth man have once said how the same satan that engineered the emergence of Catholics was also responsible for Islam.

In a nutshell, he sees Catholics as devil worshipping non Christians.

https://www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam

He later said they are idol worshippers:


Other popular Christian sites don't see Catholics as Christians https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

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unfortunately, her royal Majesty ifeann a.k.a parisbookaddict claims to be a Catholic


Although she once claimed not to be a Catholic, but she's finally come out open to say the truth...

But then according to truthman, she is Ian idol worshipper. Other Christians don't see her as a Christian

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In a nutshell, 2 of the above 3 guys are confused, the question then Is who and who?

Lol, have you been monitoring all their comments? You have time sha. But very observant of you, I must say.

Dont expect any credible answers from them, they are not exactly famous for their credible or reasonable answers. The only thing they have in common with each other is their hatred for Islam and Muslims.

And to answer your question, all 3 of them are confused.

Empiree needs to see dis thread....lol

parisbookaddict:

Trying to get me upset with my good friends a.nnunaki and truthman.
I respect their rights to have their opinions.

By the way U dont need to call me her royal Majesty. Parisbookaddict or ifeann is fine..apparently u are not a regular in the religion section, people who follow my comments here know i am a catholic. I am of the view all christians are one as long as ur follow biblical requirements set by christ our lord.


2. The devil/allah is working hard sowing discord amongst christians. I dont care if annuki or other christians believe the trinity or not. If u deny that jesus is the christ, son of God and God and deny the father and the son then u are the anti thesis of a christian. If u dont follow the teachings of christ, accept him in ur life, get baptised and love ur neighbour as ur self etc then u have a long way to go before calling ur self a christian.

3. I have read that paragraph of the catechism and it is very at first disturbing . until i saw a commentary given by a catholic scholar. Now lets breakdown that statement.
The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

Yes we have a creator, one being , a diety whom has a plan of salvation for all mankind be them jew, muslim, buddist, hindu

in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;

This is the place i have an issue with this statement.. the frist place amongst them is the jews who believe in one absolute God, the christian who believe in one God comprising of the father, son and spirit.
Then believe it or not, the muslims who believe in one god living above the kabab in mecca..

The problem again with this statement is that muslims believe in an old pagan diety who had 3 daughters now known as allah..

Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt know islam well .

these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

Yes all these faiths profess to hold the faith of abraham.. but muslims do not worship the God of Abraham..

Jehova is not allah..



In no text in judaism is it taught that;
1. You need to pray so demons dont get u in the toilet
2. Shaytan climbs in to ur nostrils in the night
3. U can clean ur butt with stones and
4. U can beat women
5. U should colect jizyah from non believers
6. U can rape women
7. U can marry your sons wife like mohammed did
8. U can rob people
9. U can perform nitah mutah
10. That jinns /invisible people exists to torment u.
Etc the list goes on and on


Yes i am catholic a proud one.. proud of the crusades that saved europe and liberated Jerusalem and spain,

proud of the countless catholic missionary schools,

proud of the countless catholic hospitals and charity organisations which take care of even muslims.

proud of the countless souls they brought to christ ..

Like my favorite protestant christian preacher rick warren said, "some christians forget that Christianity didnt start with Luther, for hundreds of years after st. Peter, the catholic church spread and defended christianity"

Who Needs Your Epistle.

Your Doctrines Are Choking Me

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Drinkwater06:
ANNUNAKI'S view on Catholic and Trinity.


https://www.nairaland.com/3086804/annunaki-read-old-testament#45332404

We should note that both truthman2012 and parisbookaddict subscribe to Trinity which makes them a false Christian according to annunaki.

Truthman2012 and parisbookaddict both believe those who don't believe in the Trinity concept of God are false Christian and are going to hell, unless they want to state otherwise here.

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TRUTHMAN2012 VIEW ON CATHOLICISM

Truth man have once said how the same satan that engineered the emergence of Catholics was also responsible for Islam.

In a nutshell, he sees Catholics as devil worshipping non Christians.

https://www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam

He later said they are idol worshippers:


Other popular Christian sites don't see Catholics as Christians https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

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unfortunately, her royal Majesty ifeann a.k.a parisbookaddict claims to be a Catholic


Although she once claimed not to be a Catholic, but she's finally come out open to say the truth...

But then according to truthman, she is Ian idol worshipper. Other Christians don't see her as a Christian

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In a nutshell, 2 of the above 3 guys are confused, the question then Is who and who?

You are truly investigative journalist. You choked them. She doesnt know what the hell to say but to get Muhammad(p) involved. That's why they hide their doctrines indivudually. They good at At-Taqqiya

This seems like a nice show but I wonder why it's not in HD. Well, watching! *grabs some donut and fanta and a seat close to johnydon22* My big bros, you want gala abi donut? @ johnydon22

@Parisbookaddict

I got banned by antispambot while I was trying to reply your post. I tried in other sections too, I got the same thing. So I decided to screenshot my reply and attached it to this post. I will be addressing the rest.

parisbookaddict:

Yes thats the teaching and process according the the catholics,The baptists and some other denominations as well if i remember correctly..
I dont know how he was baptised but my opinion is that i hope God accepts his baptism.

We are not talking about baptism here, we are talking about his faith. The catechism' clearly states that the faith of all Christians rests on the Trinity, that is to say, if you don't have faith in the Trinity no matter how ridiculous it sounds to you, you are not a Christian

234 The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith" .56 The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself those who turn away from sin". Annunaki doesn't believe this hence he is not a Christian, is he?

Its no secret that christians had a 30 year war in europe. Muslims have been killing eachother for 1400 years including last week when sunnis bombed a shia community/mosque in iraq..
Christians in europe misbehaved back then.. but they have grown to accept eachother have muslims done that?

I will be replying this later..

Worshiping idols..?? Really.. show me a catholic document or in the catechism that teaches idol worship... If u want to see idol worship google Hinduism or muslims veneration of the kabba and kissing of the black stone

Truthmans2012 said you are an idol worshipper, why don't you direct your question to him

If u are christian and practising too u are forbidden to hate anyone including muslims..perosnally i have a handful /shrinking handful of muslim relatives and a few muslim friends. I cant possibly hate them no matter how objectionable their ideological affiliation is. however hating, detesting and crticizing the teachings of islam is fine by me... and is very necessary. .

Why are you then scared of critisizing annunaki' or truthman2012's believe?

truthmans2012:


What do you.mean Jesus was a drunkard?

Let's have your reference where Jesus got drunk.

You need to start reading your Bible instead of wasting your time on this anti Islam sites..

Luke 7:34
34 But I eat my food and drink my wine, and you say, ‘What a glu tton Jesus is! And he drinks! And has the lowest sort of friends!’
Just like annunaki2, he was said to be eating and drinking around. Lol

He was said to be homeless and jobless, let me ask, where was he getting all those money he used in buying wine and foods?

Demola, I see you peeping.. Hehehe.. Good morning sire

annunaki2:


Having gone through this thread, the motive of the OP is clear to me,

It is probably not clear to you. The catechism' clearly States that the faith of all Christians rests on the doctrine of Trinity, whereas you are denying this same Trinity and you want us to see you as a Christian? You are not a Christian according to parisbookaddict and truthman2012. You can always prove me otherwise.

therefore I have decided not to dignify this thread by addressing the issues raised.

Probably because you don't have anything to say or because you are scared of saying the truth. Come to think of it, your brethren a believe you are going to hell, you believe they have err yet you say you are fine with that

Who is more hypocrite?

And to the op my advice to you is to remove the log(disaster islam represents) in your eye instead of worrying about the speck(mis-understandings in christianity) in another person's eye.

Charity begins at home the say.. Remove the log in the face of truthman2012 andbparisbookaddict before coming for muslims, or do you want them to go to hel?

Drinkwater06:


We are not talking about baptism here, we are talking about his faith. The catechism' clearly states that the faith of all Christians rests on the Trinity, that is to say, if you don't have faith in the Trinity no matter how ridiculous it sounds to you, you are not a Christian

Apparently u think the catechism is the rule book to heaven.. its a documentation of teachings, elaborated from centuries of theological understanding. .however, I see all Christians who obey the essential priniples of the bible eg acccept christ, be baptised, love thy neighbours as Christians.

234 The [b]mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith" .56 The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself those who turn away from sin". [/b] Annunaki doesn't believe this hence he is not a Christian, is he?

The mystery of the trinity is fundamental. If anybody including my good friend here on nairaland rejects that jesus is part of that mystery and rejects him as the son of God.. ie denying the father and the son as john stated then essential he is not christian.. i do hope this is not the case.

I will be replying this later..

I dont care.. we know the bloody history of shia sunni rivalry. .

Truthmans2012 said you are an idol worshipper, why don't you direct your question to him

He would be right if indeed i worship idols..

Why are you then scared of critisizing annunaki' or truthman2012's believe?

I am not here to critic christians.. i am here to expose and educate people on islam.. besides i regylarly state the criteria for being a chriatian, anyone who seeks christ wholeheartedly will find him no matter his theological understanding or background in Christianity.


Are u done, more questions.. no more going in circles..

Drinkwater06:
@Parisbookaddict

I got banned by antispambot while I was trying to reply your post. I tried in other sections too, I got the same thing. So I decided to screenshot my reply and attached it to this post. I will be addressing the rest.

U got banned because you were copying and pasting (spamming), this is regular with muslims who keep copying and pasting mindlessly on nairaland.. its used to remove unoriginal ideas, frequently pasted stuff and ads..


By the way i didnt read the screenshots of your copy and paste..Be original. .

Drinkwater06:


You need to start reading your Bible instead of wasting your time on this anti Islam sites..

Luke 7:34
34 But I eat my food and drink my wine, and you say, ‘What a glu tton Jesus is! And he drinks! And has the lowest sort of friends!’
Just like annunaki2, he was said to be eating and drinking around. Lol

He was said to be homeless and jobless, let me ask, where was he getting all those money he used in buying wine and foods?

Demola, I see you peeping.. Hehehe.. Good morning sire

Wow u are truly ignorant about christ.

Jesus was loved by people not feared
He was regularly invited to homes to eat and drink.. so what is ur idea about buying food and wine.. jesus fed thousands of people during the sermon on the mount..

He filled a disciple's net with fish to the point of breaking the net. .

By the way as a christian i have zero issues with drinking wine.. like every good thing on earth, in moderation..

I see how u butchered and modified the verse.. read below..

Abridged

Luke 7:33-35 GNBDK

John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, ‘Look at this man! He is a glutton and a drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it.”

Fuller context
Luke 7:31-35 GNBDK

Jesus continued, “Now to what can I compare the people of this day? What are they like? They are like children sitting in the market place. One group shouts to the other, ‘We played wedding music for you, but you wouldn't dance! We sang funeral songs, but you wouldn't cry!’ John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, ‘Look at this man! He is a glutton and a drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it.”


If u honestly want a serious robust understanding of this issue , dont edit or misrepresent biblical text.

Until you have something new to ask and learn i will not be replying to your comments. i detest going in circles on an issue.

parisbookaddict:


Apparently u think the catechism is the rule book to heaven.. its a documentation of teachings, elaborated from centuries of theological understanding.

Deny! Deny!! Deny!!! Deny your books when you are stranded. To Catholics: " The Catechism of the Catholic Church is intended primarily to the bishops of the world and the people who assist them in teaching the Catholic religion. Its purpose is our spiritual renewal through a clear, systematic, and comprehensive presentation of the essentials of the Christian faith . http://www.aboutcatholics.com/beliefs/the-role-of-the-catechism-of-the-catholic-church/

Is the catechism' derived from the Bible or not?

.however, I see all Christians who obey the essential priniples of the bible eg acccept christ, be baptised, love thy neighbours as Christians.

You see? That's your own opinion, as far as Catholics is concerned, their faith rests of the doctrine of Trinity, are you going to deny this as well?

The mystery of the trinity is fundamental. If anybody including my good friend here on nairaland rejects that jesus is part of that mystery and rejects him as the son of God..

Stop confusing yourself, is Jesus the son of God or God the son you can't have it 2 ways. Does annunaki2 even accept the mystery of the Trinity?

He would be right if indeed i worship idols..

Then the onus is on you to prove him wrong by opening a thread and telling us how you are not worshipping idol. I will certainly come with my input as well..

I am not here to critic christians..

So you would prefer your fellow brethrens to go to hell?

i am here to expose and educate people on islam..

Are you an Islamic scholar? What do you know about islam? Where are you deriving' your knowledge of Islam from? Is this how you are spreading the gospel of jesus?

besides i regylarly state the criteria for being a chriatian,

Can you please outline them in full as the Catholic belief? (please add your source to it)

anyone who seeks christ wholeheartedly will find him no matter his theological understanding or background in Christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Are u done, more questions.. no more going in circles..

To me denying the Catholic catechism' makes you a fraud, what are you going to achieve by remaining a fraud?

parisbookaddict:


U got banned because you were copying and pasting (spamming), this is regular with muslims who keep copying and pasting mindlessly on nairaland.. its used to remove unoriginal ideas, frequently pasted stuff and ads..

If adding reference to my facts is what you term copy and paste, then I have no option to to Smh for you

By the way i didnt read the screenshots of your copy and paste..Be original. .

Probably because you are scared of seeing the truth.

parisbookaddict:


Wow u are truly ignorant about christ.

Jesus was loved by people not feared
He was regularly invited to homes to eat and drink.. so what is ur idea about buying food and wine.. jesus fed thousands of people during the sermon on the mount..

He filled a disciple's net with fish to the point of breaking the net. .

By the way as a christian i have zero issues with drinking wine.. like every good thing on earth, in moderation..

I see how u butchered and modified the verse.. read below..

Abridged

Luke 7:33-35 GNBDK

John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, ‘Look at this man! He is a glutton and a drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it.”

Fuller context
Luke 7:31-35 GNBDK

Jesus continued, “Now to what can I compare the people of this day? What are they like? They are like children sitting in the market place. One group shouts to the other, ‘We played wedding music for you, but you wouldn't dance! We sang funeral songs, but you wouldn't cry!’ John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, ‘Look at this man! He is a glutton and a drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it.”


If u honestly want a serious robust understanding of this issue , dont edit or misrepresent biblical text.

Until you have something new to ask and learn i will not be replying to your comments. i detest going in circles on an issue.

Does that make him not a drinker and a glutton?

parisbookaddict:

Trying to get me upset with my good friends a.nnunaki and truthman.
I respect their rights to have their opinions.

By the way U dont need to call me her royal Majesty. Parisbookaddict or ifeann is fine..apparently u are not a regular in the religion section, people who follow my comments here know i am a catholic. I am of the view all christians are one as long as ur follow biblical requirements set by christ our lord.


2. The devil/allah is working hard sowing discord amongst christians. I dont care if annuki or other christians believe the trinity or not. If u deny that jesus is the christ, son of God and God and deny the father and the son then u are the anti thesis of a christian. If u dont follow the teachings of christ, accept him in ur life, get baptised and love ur neighbour as ur self etc then u have a long way to go before calling ur self a christian.

3. I have read that paragraph of the catechism and it is very at first disturbing . until i saw a commentary given by a catholic scholar. Now lets breakdown that statement.
The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

Yes we have a creator, one being , a diety whom has a plan of salvation for all mankind be them jew, muslim, buddist, hindu

in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;

This is the place i have an issue with this statement.. the frist place amongst them is the jews who believe in one absolute God, the christian who believe in one God comprising of the father, son and spirit.
Then believe it or not, the muslims who believe in one god living above the kabab in mecca..

The problem again with this statement is that muslims believe in an old pagan diety who had 3 daughters now known as allah..

Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt know islam well .

these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

Yes all these faiths profess to hold the faith of abraham.. but muslims do not worship the God of Abraham..

Jehova is not allah..



In no text in judaism is it taught that;
1. You need to pray so demons dont get u in the toilet
2. Shaytan climbs in to ur nostrils in the night
3. U can clean ur butt with stones and
4. U can beat women
5. U should colect jizyah from non believers
6. U can rape women
7. U can marry your sons wife like mohammed did
8. U can rob people
9. U can perform nitah mutah
10. That jinns /invisible people exists to torment u.
Etc the list goes on and on


Yes i am catholic a proud one.. proud of the crusades that saved europe and liberated Jerusalem and spain,

proud of the countless catholic missionary schools,

proud of the countless catholic hospitals and charity organisations which take care of even muslims.

proud of the countless souls they brought to christ ..

Like my favorite protestant christian preacher rick warren said, "some christians forget that Christianity didnt start with Luther, for hundreds of years after st. Peter, the catholic church spread and defended christianity"

1000 likes.

zeyney:
lol.funny set of people with wack reasoning

Really? How funny?

analice107:

Really? How funny?

Why do Protestant denominations not consider Catholics to be Christians?

Why do Catholics not consider those who don't believe in Trinity as non Christian?

How come unitarians' like Annunaki don't believe in Trinity? Could it be that it's indeed false?

analice107:
Really? How funny?

if u don't find it funny then pls don't quote me

Applause, DrinkWater, applause.



I would like to also include JW people but unfortunately, that will probably be a thread for another day.



The silent tug of war between protestants and Orthodox is quite funny.......and both of them think they are right





Meanwhile, I'll just be watching from the sidelines.

analice107:
1000 likes.

1000 likes? So small!!!
1 trillion likes!!!!!

Let he/she who follow a religion that has no division caSt the stone!
If you feel your religion does not have the same issues you are accusing others of having, then you are free to Comment.

some would only want to hammer on the differences, they like such discussions. They don't want to go further!

dolphinheart:
Let he/she who follow a religion that has no division caSt the stone!
If you feel your religion does not have the same issues you are accusing others of having, then you are free to Comment.

some would only want to hammer on the differences, they like such discussions. They don't want to go further!

But it's good to label Muslims hell-bound when your fellow Christians sees you (jw) as hell-bound?

Doesn't charity begins at home?

zeyney:
if u don't find it funny then pls don't quote me

Why the uprightness girl? Is that what Islam does to people? Calm down.

zeyney:
if u don't find it funny then pls don't quote me

Why the uptightness girl? Is that what Islam does to people? Calm down.

analice107:

Why the uptightness girl? Is that what Islam does to people? Calm down.

you are entitled to your opinion

Drinkwater06:


Why do Protestant denominations not consider Catholics to be Christians?

Why do Catholics not consider those who don't believe in Trinity as non Christian?

How come unitarians' like Annunaki don't believe in Trinity? Could it be that it's indeed false?

I believe in Trinity, so ask someone else