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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:10pm On Aug 09, 2016
eph12:

Higuain cost Juve how much? What about Bale? Where they bought by English teams too?

Bale has registered 58 goals and 46 assists in 123 games for Madrid. That's 104 goals or assists in 123 games including UCL Final.

That's baba nla justification of his fee.

The Higuain move makes sense when you realise that Juve have dominated the Serie A so heavily that they don't need resale value on a player sef. Plus that move is predicated in part on Pogba's transfer. And players can regularly play till 38/39/40 in that league so Higuain could be at Juve for 10 years.

English teams are seriously over paying for talent nowadays. Imagine Stones going for 50m or Lukaku being quoted at 75m. That's just madness
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:13pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


You might need to take that tampon out of your cünt and use it to plug your gaping mouth instead. If you had bothered to use the two things in your eyesockets for once in your miserable existence, you would have noticed that I actually even criticised a Chelsea transfer in my post.

Look, my post was not for you. When I discuss football with Manyoo fans, I don't usually involve you...so I don't know why you want to use your head to jam trailer.

Higuan deal is as much about weakening the team that came 2nd in thr league last season as it is about signing a guy that just broke a league goalscoring record that has stood for almost a century...and it was enabled in part by this Pogba movement

Sanches deal is looking quite good already. 18 years old and a major part of a European title winning side.

Things are done differently and more sensibly on the continent. That's a fact.

Now that you've been duly educated, you can run along to go and play in the sand or whatever it is you do in your spare time. Miss me with the BS next time.
And u might need to use ur God given brain(if at all u ve any) to construct coherent statements from this moment henceforth.

Ur post was not for me. But it was posted on a United thread regardless. And any United fan can reference and criticize it anyhow they see fit.

Whether u criticized a Chelsea signing or not, it doesn't change d fact that u made that post to attack Pogba's signing.

18 yr old Sanches has barely made any appearances for Bayern but the deal is looking good bcoz he won Euros for his country.
But the deal for 23 yr old Pogba that is a 4 time Italian Champion and in both Uefa and Fifa best 11 presently doesn't make sense after only 15 hours of his signing??

Whether things are done more sensibly on the continent is nobody's concern. In football today, players go for exorbitant prices. And if u can match the asking price, then u simply pay up or go home. No need to start wailing over another man's poison.

So kindly do us a favour and quit whining like a little bîtch.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:15pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


Bale has registered 58 goals and 46 assists in 123 games for Madrid. That's 104 goals or assists in 123 games including UCL Final.

That's baba nla justification of his fee.

The Higuain move makes sense when you realise that Juve have dominated the Serie A so heavily that they don't need resale value on a player sef. Plus that move is predicated in part on Pogba's transfer. And players can regularly play till 38/39/40 in that league so Higuain could be at Juve for 10 years.

English teams are seriously over paying for talent nowadays. Imagine Stones going for 50m or Lukaku being quoted at 75m. That's just madness
And you're not going to allow Pogba justify his fee first before calling out the dogs? Or you saying only attackers are allowed to cost much? I guess you also expecting Pogba to score plenty goals for him to justify his fee. Hahahaha

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 5:17pm On Aug 09, 2016
dubylhover:


I have watched stones enough to know that I personally see him as a very fine footballer eho starts up play from the back like hummels nd when city announced pep signing I told someone that he wud sign stones and aubemayang...I personally dont like but one thing is that hes a visionary and sees football differently like having ball playing defenders..heck see how he improved boateng and mark my words come end of seadon you guys wud see a transformed stones

He's visionary but doesn't have the ball skill to match it and whenever he was able to pull off some good passes, people cream their pants whereas he made as many poor passes as well.

You all get what he was trying to archive with those poor passes which shows he's got a good vision but his ball skills are just average to consistently pull it off. He's caused many error with his poor passes, even when it was just simple passes and his composure under pressure na waya.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:18pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


Bale has registered 58 goals and 46 assists in 123 games for Madrid. That's 104 goals or assists in 123 games including UCL Final.


Bale "Has Registered"

He didn't register those numbers BEFORE he was signed and when he was signed, he proved his worth

So can you let pogba do the same thing please?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:18pm On Aug 09, 2016
I won't bother reading anything you type because you are trying to force yourself into a conversation that did not involve you.

Not like you have anything reasonable to say anyway. Much like a goat cannot be expected to give birth to a lion, I cannot expect anything sensible to fall out of the hole in your face that some mistake for a mouth.

Stick to making memes and gifs lad. Nihilist is here to chat with your superiors.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:19pm On Aug 09, 2016
SIRcumalot:

some guys here have forgotten he didn't impress in that position the fiset time around,
but playing a full season as a CB where he contested balls and marked bigger,faster striker may just have helped him out.
a few games as a DM again to see how far won't hurt.

I think our playing close to the goalkeeper (DDG) appears to be what has covered his weaknesses.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:23pm On Aug 09, 2016
I think what United have done so far is in the interest of the EPL @ large.
Not letting go of one of the world class goalkeeper in the league & now succeeded in adding another in his youth can only improve the league cuz let's face it, there's been a huge talent drain from the EPL over the past decade which has translated to the decline in quality & performance from reps in the UCL.

If this trend is not nipped, this isn't about the money now; in no time the league coefficient will be reduced.
Is it qualifies every year Arsenal & get out in second round that will uphold the numbers from EPL? or is it rookies like Spurs & Leicester?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:23pm On Aug 09, 2016
dopeJemi:


Bale "Has Registered"

He registered those numbers BEFORE he was signed and when he was signed, he proved his worth

So can you let pogba do the same thing please?

Pogba is not going to get anywhere near those numbers. That's just a fact. He's coming to play in a more withdrawn position than he usually played at Juve, in a far more competitive league. Anyway you slice and dice it, that is silly money.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:25pm On Aug 09, 2016
SailorXY:
I think what United have done so far is in the interest of the EPL @ large.
Not letting go of one of the world class goalkeeper in the league & now succeeded in adding another in his youth can only improve the league cuz let's face it, there's been a huge talent drain from the EPL over the past decade which has translated to the decline in quality & performance from reps in the UCL.

If this trend is not nipped, this isn't about the money now; in no time the league coefficient will be reduced.
Is it qualifies every year Arsenal & get out in second round that will uphold the numbers from EPL? or is it rookies like Spurs & Leicester?

If only we didn't allow Di Maria go.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:27pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:

[b]English teams are seriously over paying for talent [/b]nowadays. Imagine Stones going for 50m or Lukaku being quoted at 75m. That's just madness
This is very true and obvious to a blind man.
And even at that, how exactly is it only English teams that are overpaying for talent?
How much did Barca(a team on d continent) by Suarez??

At the time of Bale's move to Madrid, the only notable achievements he had were two time PFA player of the year and one PFA young player of the year. And yet Madrid(a team on the continent) still priced him away for £85 mill.

So how exactly is Pogba's fee not justified??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Pataki: 5:29pm On Aug 09, 2016
Manure on a groovy train to the EPL title. cool

If the EPL title can be won by the team that spends the most, we all know who the title is going to.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 5:31pm On Aug 09, 2016
elampiro:


If only we didn't allow Di Maria go.

A 6month wonder who bailed out as soon as he had an excuse (Burglary) to escape the EPL?

We all saw his level against City the other day when Psg faced City. He's an inconsistent player, who was no better than Nani prior to his 6months wonder of transitioning into a box-box CM while being cuddled by Alonso and Modric in the midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrDojo(m): 5:32pm On Aug 09, 2016
Pogba-89+M
Higuain-75+M
Stones-50M
Lukaku-75M?
Gomes-50M

shocked shocked shocked shocked

None of those guys derserve such huge transfer fees.......
The year 2020 players like Jones will cost
60M

Inflation will soon kill football.....

Question to united goons....how do we rate if pogba is a success? Goals? Assists? Amout of dabs? Etc...?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 5:33pm On Aug 09, 2016
Lana1:
This is very true and obvious to a blind man.
And even at that, how exactly is it only English teams that are overpaying for talent?
How much did Barca(a team on d continent) by Suarez??
At the time of Bale's move to Madrid, the only notable achievements he had were two time PFA player of the year and one PFA young player of the year. And yet Madrid(a team on the continent) still priced him away for £85 mill.
So how exactly is Pogba's fee not justified??

Bale had announced himself in Europe - he single handedly destroyed Inter Milan in the CL.

I think he also scored 21 goals in his last season in England (an excellent record for a winger)

It was perfectly okay to criticize Madrid for paying such a huge amount (before he justified his price tag ofcourse) but i dont think we should compare a 23year old forward who was in the form of his life (prior to his move to Madrid) to Pogba's case.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:34pm On Aug 09, 2016
Lmao. Its when people ve no more point to prove and nothing meaningful to say they start saying gibberish and claiming someone should stick to memes and gifs. Am i the only one who has ever made gifs on Nairaland??

Abeg get lost and feel free to come back anytime u want and come educate us on more of ur fôôlishness all wise one grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:34pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


Not like you have anything reasonable to say anyway. Much like a goat cannot be expected to give birth to a lion, I cannot expect anything sensible to fall out of the hole in your face that some mistake for a mouth.

Stick to making memes and gifs lad. Nihilist is here to chat with your superiors.

Lana1:
And u might need to use ur God given brain(if at all u ve any) to construct coherent statements from this moment henceforth.

So kindly do us a favour and quit whining like a little bîtch.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:38pm On Aug 09, 2016
elampiro:

If only we didn't allow Di Maria go.
Blame van Goat for that idiotic move.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrDojo(m): 5:39pm On Aug 09, 2016
Lana1:
This is very true and obvious to a blind man.
And even at that, how exactly is it only English teams that are overpaying for talent?
How much did Barca(a team on d continent) by Suarez??

At the time of Bale's move to Madrid, the only notable achievements he had were two time PFA player of the year and one PFA young player of the year. And yet Madrid(a team on the continent) still priced him away for £85 mill.

So how exactly is Pogba's fee not justified??

Bro, are u saying suarez is not worth the T.Fee barca paid for him shocked....

Bale had 2 PFA's and a young PFA award....is that not enough..mind you the guy was still 23/24 ( already the best player twice in EPL ) and an attack-minded player....from the above stats of 104 assists N goals....in 100+ app the guy merit the T.Fee IMO....

Madrid can ver fork out the 89m for pogba simple becuz it won't be a wise investment on their part.....

Kudos to manure tho...you have the money get the player....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:41pm On Aug 09, 2016
Dadehmola:


Bale had announced himself in Europe - he single handedly destroyed Inter Milan in the CL.

I think he also scored 21 goals in his last season in England (an excellent record for a winger)
Yes. Bale destroyed Inter. But did he help his team to the UCL final?? Even Walcott has also destroyed Milan in the UCL before. So that one no be valid point.

At the time of his big money move, Bale scored 21 goals but he wasn't the highest goalscorer. He wasn't the highest Assister either. He didn't make both Fifa and Uefa's team of the year in the same season.
But if he could go for £85 mill without any1 batting an eyelash, why then cant these same people Justify Pogba's transfer considering he's achieved way more now than when Bale made his own move to Madrid??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:42pm On Aug 09, 2016
elampiro:

If only we didn't allow Di Maria go.
Blame van Goat for that idiotic move.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:43pm On Aug 09, 2016
What is happening here?
Lana and Nihilist? Una get personal beef before?
Abeg make una kill the insults
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:44pm On Aug 09, 2016
Dadehmola:


Bale had announced himself in Europe - he single handedly destroyed Inter Milan in the CL.

I think he also scored 21 goals in his last season in England (an excellent record for a winger)

It was perfectly okay to criticize Madrid for paying such a huge amount (before he justified his price tag ofcourse) but i dont think we should compare a 23year old forward who was in the form of his life (prior to his move to Madrid) to Pogba's case.

I concur.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:46pm On Aug 09, 2016
Pataki:
Manure on a groovy train to the EPL title. cool

If the EPL title can be won by the team that spends the most, we all know who the title is going to.


You've no excuse, Mr. Pataki. Assnal spent less last year (or maybe even the least), by your analogy they should have won the league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:49pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


Pogba is not going to get anywhere near those numbers. That's just a fact. He's coming to play in a more withdrawn position than he usually played at Juve, in a far more competitive league. Anyway you slice and dice it, that is silly money.


Each footballer has a role to play on the pitch, bale is in a more advanced role so yes pogba is not going to reach those numbers

Why not look at the numbers a player in a position such as his should reach? Him coming to play in a more withdrawn position or in a far more competitive league does not negate the fact that he was one of serie A's best midfielder if not the best, this is a player that contributed to multiple serie A titles, made the CL final, made the Euro final, in fifa world 11

Yes the fee is big, no doubt but I can see the factors surrounding it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:50pm On Aug 09, 2016
There is no need for anyone to defend Pogba's fee, the deed has been done.
Only time will tell. If he ushers in a period of dominance and titles it would have been worth it but if we don't go back to the top of the EPL and be competitive in the UCL it would have been a waste.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:51pm On Aug 09, 2016
elampiro:


I think our playing close to the goalkeeper (DDG) appears to be what has covered his weaknesses.
he was still one of our best performer last season.
na big disservice we dey do our self if we no test am there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 5:53pm On Aug 09, 2016
Nihilist:


Bale has registered 58 goals and 46 assists in 123 games for Madrid. That's 104 goals or assists in 123 games including UCL Final.

That's baba nla justification of his fee.

The Higuain move makes sense when you realise that Juve have dominated the Serie A so heavily that they don't need resale value on a player sef. Plus that move is predicated in part on Pogba's transfer. And players can regularly play till 38/39/40 in that league so Higuain could be at Juve for 10 years.

English teams are seriously over paying for talent nowadays. Imagine Stones going for 50m or Lukaku being quoted at 75m. That's just madness

Your points are valid. But you might have to look at the Pogba deal from a commercial angle. He is a big draw for Adidas, the kit maker for United and his commercial appeal will increase further with his return to United.

I am fine with City paying 47.5 M quids to Everton and Westham paying 20M for Ayew that was acquired on a free transfer from Marsielle. This is because those fees were paid to a fellow EPL team.

What do you have to say about United paying about 26M pounds for Mkhitaryan who was the best player in the Bundesliga last season (even though he was in the last year of his contract)? No one is praising Mou and Woodward for the deal in a transfer window that a 1 season player such as Leroy Sane was acquired for 37M quids.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:54pm On Aug 09, 2016
MrDojo:


Bro, are u saying suarez is not worth the T.Fee barca paid for him shocked....
Suarez was obviously worth the fee but i listed that as an example of a team outside the EPL paying top dollar to acquire the services of a good player.


Bale had 2 PFA's and a young PFA award....is that not enough..mind you the guy was still 23/24 ( already the best player twice in EPL ) and an attack-minded player....from the above stats of 104 assists N goals....in 100+ app the guy merit the T.Fee IMO....
Cool story. Na network no allow me post all of Pogba's stats in the Serie A. But i've already listed some which already surpass what Bale achieved at the time. And mind u, i never said Bale's transfer wasn't justified. Just merely stating it as an example.


Madrid can ver fork out the 89m for pogba simple becuz it won't be a wise investment on their part.....
Another cool story. Madrid dint splash the cash bcoz,
1. It wasn't a wise investment as u clearly stated.
2. They already ve established world clasd midfielders in Kroos and Modric. Plus some other make sense midfielders.

But if Madrid had signed Pogba for 89 mill, i'm sure nobody would ve complained. Afterall transfers are always more sensible "on the continent". grin grin

But since its United, its ok to criticize the transfer and claim it doesn't make sense. angry Afterall, hating on United is the new cool. angry
Rubbish!! angry


Kudos to manure tho...you have the money get the player....
Thank u. cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:55pm On Aug 09, 2016
afrodoc2:

What is happening here?
Lana and Nihilist? Una get personal beef before?
Abeg make una kill the insults

Mehn that clown just started sending abuse from nowhere.

Probably looking for likes. Na him sabi. I nor kuku send am. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:56pm On Aug 09, 2016
dopeJemi:


Each footballer has a role to play on the pitch, bale is in a more advanced role so yes pogba is not going to reach those numbers

Why not look at the numbers a player in a position such as his should reach? Him coming to play in a more withdrawn position or in a far more competitive league does not negate the fact that he was one of serie A's best midfielder if not the best, this is a player that contributed to multiple serie A titles, made the CL final, made the Euro final, in fifa world 11

Yes the fee is big, no doubt but I can see the factors surrounding it

Exactly. Pogba will never score such huge goals like Bale, so judging him with that is unfair, but using midfield criteria like assists, interceptions, tackles or passes, will be a better benchmark.


But in all, we overpaid for that ninja.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:58pm On Aug 09, 2016
afrodoc2:

What is happening here?
Lana and Nihilist? Una get personal beef before?
Abeg make una kill the insults
I no get beef with anybody. But u know Baba Nihilist, always quick with the insults. Especially when it comes to Lana.

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