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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nicholas007: 7:54pm On Aug 10, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 8:51pm On Aug 10, 2016
n3xt:
More pic and video update on NextHomeBuilds.

Boss this is really fantastic.weldone
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:45pm On Aug 10, 2016
msogunro:


Nice. Very nice.

Rebar included? Yes

Any strength test conducted? No

How were they lifted into place? They're manually lifted being a lightweight concrete casting. 11.53cm thick

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 10:12pm On Aug 10, 2016
grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:18pm On Aug 10, 2016
I just saw a thread and was just flabbergasted by the finishing. I made no comment but just observed and moved on.

It's downright shocking what is being passed by builders and accepted by owners as acceptable. I have mine, no doubt because I'll be mostly redoing the roof on my apartment garage when I get home shortly. Some things are just unacceptable regardless of the cost.

Instead of harping on the bad jobs, my perception, I'll just share pictures of what I think are downright gorgeous and awe-inspiring efforts by artisans right there in Nigeria. So slack jawed yokels should just stop already before they start with the yankee jangdon silly stuff.

I think folks need to start taking pride in their work, don't accept work if you can't deliver good quality work. A house to me, is a conversation piece of sorts. Something to be proud of and something to proudly say that XYZ built it and JYH did this or that.

So the following examples are exhibits of what I consider EXCELLENT work from various builder threads on here.

Quality Part 1

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:20pm On Aug 10, 2016
Quality Part 2

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:22pm On Aug 10, 2016
Quality Part 3

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abike12(f): 10:32pm On Aug 10, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I just saw a thread and was just flabbergasted by the finishing. I made no comment but just observed and moved on.

It's downright shocking what is being passed by builders and accepted by owners as acceptable. I have mine, no doubt because I'll be mostly redoing the roof on my apartment garage when I get home shortly. Some things are just unacceptable regardless of the cost.

Instead of harping on the bad jobs, my perception, I'll just share pictures of what I think are downright gorgeous and awe-inspiring efforts by artisans right there in Nigeria. So slack jawed yokels should just stop already before they start with the yankee jangdon silly stuff.

I think folks need to start taking pride in their work, don't accept work if you can't deliver good quality work. A house to me, is a conversation piece of sorts. Something to be proud of and something to proudly say that XYZ built it and JYH did this or that.

So the following examples are exhibits of what I consider EXCELLENT work from various builder threads on here.

Quality Part 1

My number 1 pet peeve is when they have uneven/unequal stairs and doors that scrape the ground/tiles when you open them. It's like, were you people sleeping when you did the work ni? undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 11:00pm On Aug 10, 2016
@egunmojagi this one is different from the church building I used to know . Wait all these your houses . You don spend reach 322,000 naira for all ?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:08am On Aug 11, 2016
abike12:


My number 1 pet peeve is when they have uneven/unequal stairs and doors that scrape the ground/tiles when you open them. It's like, were you people sleeping when you did the work ni? undecided

They can definitely do a better job.

Some get it and some just continues to repeat the same work that shows lack of dedication to duty year after year.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:42am On Aug 11, 2016
@EgunMogaji

Thank you for reminding us jare... We have some talents while the lazy ones spoiled the profession for them.
Also money good... all this nah money it dey take o... But very nice work o...

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 4:52am On Aug 11, 2016
@ EgunMogaji....a builder doesn't need to talk too much to get a client when he has a portfolio of past completed jobs. A house will forever get a job for a builder when it's well built but some builders want to squander your money and showcase how they spent your money on their personal project.
The builder of a completed house can only receive either a praise or a curse. The former always bring more jobs.

Babalose

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FreeWorld23: 4:59am On Aug 11, 2016
Good morning from desert grin.

No builder is yet to answer my questions. Well, the challenge is still open

Its high time I start taking building contracts from nlders too and Give them another style of building apart from our popular way of building in naija. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:25am On Aug 11, 2016
mufutau55:
@EgunMogaji

Thank you for reminding us jare... We have some talents while the lazy ones spoiled the profession for them.
Also money good... all this nah money it dey take o... But very nice work o...

Hajji M.

My Chief, here are my thoughts.

Of course it all boils down to money BUT..

It will best for a builder to say "hey, buddy, for n5k I'm going to fvck up your shyte, but for n7k I'll do a job that'll impress so much that you'll name your first born son after me".

Then I would say "thanks for your honesty, it seems I need to save n2k more so I can get that polished job that I require on this job".

And I'm not just picking on Nairalanders since I face some of this same halfassness on my site.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:34am On Aug 11, 2016
babalose:
@ EgunMogaji....a builder doesn't need to talk too much to get a client when he has a portfolio of past completed jobs. A house will forever get a job for a builder when it's well built but some builders want to squander your money and showcase how they spent your money on their personal project.
The builder of a completed house can only receive either praise or curse. The former always brings more jobs.

Babalose

Excellent points.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4nobody4every1: 6:46am On Aug 11, 2016
AZUH:
@egunmojagi this one is different from the church building I used to know . Wait all these your houses . You don spend reach 322,000 naira for all ?
EgunMogaji:
I just saw a thread and was just flabbergasted by the finishing. I made no comment but just observed and moved on.



So the following examples are exhibits of what I consider EXCELLENT work from various builder threads on here.

Quality Part 1
No, he is sharing quality work done by various builders on the property section, scroll through property section and you will see where he copied & lifted the various pictures to showcase what the builders & Engineers did. cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:41am On Aug 11, 2016
NLresidentQS:


Very well analysed.

You are right that many factors come to play in the farm business. But one point I softly stated is to start small, then expand...as expantiated by 44chux. You will not have to go through bearucracies.

A sustainable farm will start with market analysis:
What products are currently scarce in the consumer market?
What products will soon be scarce due to festivities, naija govt policies etc?
Out of the 41 import-banned products, is there anyone I can focus on?

In the absence of good sale, how do I preserve excess production? Do I even preserve or convert to alternative agro-allied product?

When there is no more request for my fish? Can I partner with baba hafusa pepersoup joint to supply him? Or can I have my wife open up afrozen fish business?

Can I dry the fishes? Blend and process them, and make another product?

Can I can them, and partner with private schools to supply?

By the time I create a sustainable circle of business in paper,
Upon implementation, I will be rest assured I've done my part. Naija factors will always set in...but people have scaled through...why won't our business?

"Mi o RI iru eleyi ri... A fin deruba oloro ni.... Toto, O she bi owe

Interestingly, Baba Hafusa peppersoup joint pays better than the market women.

Dry/stocked fish is also very good. I have a friend who left fish farming for this.

Also, selling directly to big eateries and hotels is good.

You just have to understand the market. Naija factor always set in when you choose to give up.
It's always there with every business but the successful ones looks past the challenges.

________
The person who introduced fishing business to me left it for fish feed production and he's also good for it.

Feed production is another good one with less stress because your target market will find you and not the other way round.


Good morning!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:53am On Aug 11, 2016
EgunMogaji:


My Chief, here are my thoughts.

Of course it all boils down to money BUT..

It will best for a builder to say "hey, buddy, for n5k I'm going to fvck up your shyte, but for n7k I'll do a job that'll impress so much that you'll name your first born son after me".

Then I would say "thanks for your honesty, it seems I need to save n2k more so I can get that polished job that I require on this job".

And I'm not just picking on Nairalanders since I face some of this same halfassness on my site.

You are 1000% right. I agreed with you completely.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 11:31am On Aug 11, 2016
What do you then do when your builder tells you that everything is going to be Ok and he's running things and then you look at the final output, its flawed with a lot of mistakes ? Should we say that you didnt warn me that my price was low or 2K short ?

Lets be real, which builder/quack will tell you that for N5k, I will do a bad job, for N7k, I will do a good job. I find that they may not say it like that, one thing they might likely say is that for 5K, I will use steptile, for 8K i will use stone coated, its difficult when it comes to labour work, easier with materials i think (various types/quality of materials has a different price tag). The likelihood is that if they are evil to the core, whether 5K or 7K, some will take it, do a really bad job and then piss on it. That is the mindset of some, forget whether they go to any religious institution any day of the week.

Why do you think that a worker can charge 5K for a piece of work, and another charge 3K for the same piece of work, yet the cheaper one does a better job ? Money is a motivational factor, but it doesn't always guarantee that a good job will be done.


mufutau55:


You are 1000% right. I agreed with you completely.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:58am On Aug 11, 2016
mavverick:
What do you then do when your builder tells you that everything is going to be Ok and he's running things and then you look at the final output, its flawed with a lot of mistakes ? Should we say that you didnt warn me that my price was low or 2K short ?

Lets be real, which builder/quack will tell you that for N5k, I will do a bad job, for N7k, I will do a good job. I find that they may not say it like that, one thing they might likely say is that for 5K, I will use steptile, for 8K i will use stone coated, its difficult when it comes to labour work, easier with materials i think (various types/quality of materials has a different price tag). The likelihood is that if they are evil to the core, whether 5K or 7K, some will take it, do a really bad job and then piss on it. That is the mindset of some, forget whether they go to any religious institution any day of the week.

Why do you think that a worker can charge 5K for a piece of work, and another charge 3K for the same piece of work, yet the cheaper one does a better job ? Money is a motivational factor, but it doesn't always guarantee that a good job will be done.



Spot on

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:32pm On Aug 11, 2016
mavverick:
What do you then do when your builder tells you that everything is going to be Ok and he's running things and then you look at the final output, its flawed with a lot of mistakes ? Should we say that you didnt warn me that my price was low or 2K short ?

Lets be real, which builder/quack will tell you that for N5k, I will do a bad job, for N7k, I will do a good job. I find that they may not say it like that, one thing they might likely say is that for 5K, I will use steptile, for 8K i will use stone coated, its difficult when it comes to labour work, easier with materials i think (various types/quality of materials has a different price tag). The likelihood is that if they are evil to the core, whether 5K or 7K, some will take it, do a really bad job and then piss on it. That is the mindset of some, forget whether they go to any religious institution any day of the week.

Why do you think that a worker can charge 5K for a piece of work, and another charge 3K for the same piece of work, yet the cheaper one does a better job ? Money is a motivational factor, but it doesn't always guarantee that a good job will be done.



I agree that no one would say what I wrote.

But one can infer.

I'm working with a Nairalander in my roof right now. One that has impeccable workmanship. My opinion.

My local baba lati that screwed up my other roof gave me an estimate that was hundreds of thousands less the Nairalander.

I'm prepared to pay the Nairalanders price but it will be sacrilegious if at the end the quality is the same as baba lati.

Reason why I even brought this up was my total dissatisfaction about a job I saw on here. I can't even believe that the builder would let the job be seen in daylight.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:26pm On Aug 11, 2016
EgunMogaji:

Reason why I even brought this up was my total dissatisfaction about a job I saw on here. I can't even believe that the builder would let the job be seen in daylight.

That tiling work and the building as a whole is too good... and for the price too... I can give my project to that Builder and go to sleep.
I can't find the thread link in my "Following Thread" setup... can you repost the thread link here... Thanks.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:46pm On Aug 11, 2016
mufutau55:


That tiling work and the building as a whole is too good... and for the price too... I can give my project to that Builder and go to sleep.
I can't find the thread link in my "Following Thread" setup... can you repost the thread link here... Thanks.

Hajji M.

Here you go Sir.

https://www.nairaland.com/3121761/step-step-construction-5-bedroom

This is how to do tile. Any other way is just hackery.

The whole job is just eye poppingly good.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:53pm On Aug 11, 2016
EgunMogaji:

Here you go Sir.
https://www.nairaland.com/3121761/step-step-construction-5-bedroom
This is how to do tile. Any other way is just hackery.
The whole job is just eye poppingly good.

You are surely right. Thank you very much... look at that round hole on the tiles... you hardly see perfect cut like this.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 8:53pm On Aug 11, 2016
With things like roof, from my experience what I did was that I got the following people involved.

Roofing company (I got them to install as I dont want to hear story and thier project manager oversaw the job at no extra cost)
Carpenter - Verified roof wood and did the wood work under supervision and according to roof plan.
Architect - Roof plan and supervision
Site foreman\Site Engineer - I need someone to report to me independently.

Egun, which nairalander is doing your roof ? you mind sharing as I may need an engineer for a house in Ibadan.

All the people mentioned above had a role or two to play, from drawing roof plan, to going to buy solegnum + oil, to bending roofing sheet, correct carpenter mistakes, correct roofing company mistakes. Roof is not one thing that one wants to joke with, and its one we all hope not to revisit again, especially with these dollar situation the roofing sheets i used has gone up by over 50%. God help Nigeria, Amen.







EgunMogaji:


I agree that no one would say what I wrote.

But one can infer.

I'm working with a Nairalander in my roof right now. One that has impeccable workmanship. My opinion.

My local baba lati that screwed up my other roof gave me an estimate that was hundreds of thousands less the Nairalander.

I'm prepared to pay the Nairalanders price but it will be sacrilegious if at the end the quality is the same as baba lati.

Reason why I even brought this up was my total dissatisfaction about a job I saw on here. I can't even believe that the builder would let the job be seen in daylight.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:00pm On Aug 11, 2016
mavverick:
With things like roof, from my experience what I did was that I got the following people involved.

Roofing company (I got them to install as I dont want to hear story and thier project manager oversaw the job at no extra cost)
Carpenter - Verified roof wood and did the wood work under supervision and according to roof plan.
Architect - Roof plan and supervision
Site foreman\Site Engineer - I need someone to report to me independently.

Egun, which nairalander is doing your roof ? you mind sharing as I may need an engineer for a house in Ibadan.

All the people mentioned above had a role or two to play, from drawing roof plan, to going to buy solegnum + oil, to bending roofing sheet, correct carpenter mistakes, correct roofing company mistakes. Roof is not one thing that one wants to joke with, and its one we all hope not to revisit again, especially with these dollar situation the roofing sheets i used has gone up by over 50%. God help Nigeria, Amen.


I'll email you with the info Sir. Still at the quote level though.

It's a shame that one has to be careful with sharing info/details now due to disgruntled multi username asshats scurrying around to tarnish their fathers name on here angry

* I won't have time to run around to get wood and factory visits so will like to just give it to one entity for a turnkey job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:14pm On Aug 11, 2016
Perfectly understand.
Those troublemakers/scammers, make una behave unaself o.

EgunMogaji:


I'll email you with the info Sir. Still at the quote level though.

It's a shame that one has to be careful with sharing info/details now due to disgruntled multi username asshats scurrying around to tarnish their fathers name on here angry

* I won't have time to run around to get wood and factory visits so will like to just give it to one entity for a turnkey job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 9:46pm On Aug 11, 2016
Make una help me thank Engineer AbdulwasteCX for sending some God fearing workers to my rescue o regarding the yeye roof that Bosun Brabus /N3xt of Next home did for me. roof leaking from day one for almost one year now......we had to redesign and re-roof the thing. so far am confident the roof wont leak again unless bosun go climb am for night and make holes on it. grin grin grin grin grin. but i trust my abooki maiguard ....na bow and arrow he kuku dey use.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by itswell1: 10:35pm On Aug 11, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I agree that no one would say what I wrote.

But one can infer.

I'm working with a Nairalander in my roof right now. One that has impeccable workmanship. My opinion.

My local baba lati that screwed up my other roof gave me an estimate that was hundreds of thousands less the Nairalander.

I'm prepared to pay the Nairalanders price but it will be sacrilegious if at the end the quality is the same as baba lati.

Reason why I even brought this up was my total dissatisfaction about a job I saw on here. I can't even believe that the builder would let the job be seen in daylight.
We will soon hear another story that touches the heart. I am watching the work been done and i know the owner will come here and cry very soon. Tomorrow is another thank God its Friday.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 10:37pm On Aug 11, 2016
Craze full here !!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by itswell1: 10:42pm On Aug 11, 2016
mufutau55:


That tiling work and the building as a whole is too good... and for the price too... I can give my project to that Builder and go to sleep.
I can't find the thread link in my "Following Thread" setup... can you repost the thread link here... Thanks.

Hajji M.
Oga Hajji please i need your help with finding a thread in which spyder gave an estimated timeline for decking preparations. The time for the carpentar to do the platform, Iron bender coming to do his thing and the electrical amd plumber crew doing thier thing before the casting takes place. Hope you can still dig this out. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:20am On Aug 12, 2016
itswell1:

Oga Hajji please i need your help with finding a thread in which spyder gave an estimated timeline for decking preparations. The time for the carpentar to do the platform, Iron bender coming to do his thing and the electrical amd plumber crew doing thier thing before the casting takes place. Hope you can still dig this out. Thanks

Sorry, I didnt have it saved.. may be we can copy Spyder himself.

@Spyder880

Hajji M.

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