I have seen many threads on nairaland concerning self servicing and each time i read these threads i just shake my head in disbelief and i just marvel at the level of hypocrisy many people bring into the subject matter but today i want to present my candid take on self servicing using the very words of GOD as guide.

1.Is self servicing a sin?: I have hoped that one day, someone will really quote a bible passage that condemns self servicing but so far what we have seen are human philosophies and personal conviction about the matter.I don't know what the Quran says about it but The truth is that the Bible is totally silent about this matter.Many scholars have sited the story of onan(Genesis 38) who spilled his fluid on the ground but a deep understanding of that story shows that GOD punished him for disobedience rather than the act.

Until we find a good scripture to point to self servicing as a sin i will urge people to stop using human ideology to deceive people about the subject matter."Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."Colossians 2:8

2.When does self servicing becomes a sin:I always asked; when you masturbate how do you do it?what goes through your mind? I really don’t think a single man or woman will be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about sex and i don't understand why it becomes a sin for a human who GOD created with sexual urge to think about sex.

But when you watch porn or indulge in pornographic induced self servicing then you have actually committed fornication and i will back this up with the scriptures..."But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"Matthew 5:28
This means when you self service while "looking" at pornographic materials,it is only natural to lust after the men or women in the film or magazines and that makes it outright Adultery/fornication making it 100% sin and in-fact looking at the opposite sex lustfully even without masturbating is a sin.

3.When does self servicing becomes sinless?:Now understand this fact,Sexual urge is natural,healthy and God created it in us. You can not pray and fast about not having a sexual urge because its as natural as wanting to defecate or urinate.

[b]GOD never intended for a full grown man or woman to be single but today, many factors are responsible for many unmarried adults which brings on them the pressure of sexual urge. If you are sexually active and you have the self control to stay without fornicating,watching pornography or self servicing i say GOD bless you but if you have a very strong libido i will advice you find a way to ease off without fornicating or watching pornography. As i wrote, it is perfectly normal to have sexual urge and it makes sense to ease off rather than burn with passion.

Conclusively,i would say self servicing should be stopped by those who see it as a sin regardless and just like every other habit that can become very addictive,people who indulge in it should know the limits.

However, the first step to stopping self servicing is to get married and if you still find yourself indulging in it with your wife or husband around then it becomes a matter of interest for you to address if it affects your sexual relationship with your wife.[/b]

"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion"1 Corinthians 7:9

Even when we know that masturbation may not be a sure way of avoiding fornication, many people have successfully wade off fornication with the act but the simple fact is that as long as you are a sexually healthy man or woman,you are left with three options...To self service,to fornicate or to burn with passion.

So I ask anyone reading this to sincerely tell us the option he or she would settle for

prefer masturbation over sex

None of the mentioned, I prefer Christ instead.

Wingback:

Everyone Masturbates and it's healthy now can we stop flogging dead horses?

Who is flogging dead horses and wer is d horse

Wingback:

Everyone Masturbates and it's healthy now can we stop flogging dead horses?

not true

Toks2008:
I have seen many threads on nairaland concerning self servicing and each time i read these threads i just shake my head in disbelief and i just marvel at the level of hypocrisy many people bring into the subject matter but today i want to present my candid take on self servicing using the very words of GOD as guide.

1.Is self servicing a sin?: I have hoped that one day, someone will really quote a bible passage that condemns self servicing but so far what we have seen are human philosophies and personal conviction about the matter.I don't know what the Quran says about it but The truth is that the Bible is totally silent about this matter.Many scholars have sited the story of onan(Genesis 38) who spilled his fluid on the ground but a deep understanding of that story shows that GOD punished him for disobedience rather than the act.

Until we find a good scripture to point to self servicing as a sin i will urge people to stop using human ideology to deceive people about the subject matter."Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."Colossians 2:8

2.When does self servicing becomes a sin:I always asked; when you masturbate how do you do it?what goes through your mind? I really don’t think a single man or woman will be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about sex and i don't understand why it becomes a sin for a human who GOD created with sexual urge to think about sex.

But when you indulge in pornographic induced self servicing then you have actually committed fornication and i will back this up with the scriptures..."But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"Matthew 5:28
This means when you self service while looking at pornographic materials,it is only natural to lust after the men or women in the film or magazines and that makes it outright Adultery/fornication making it 100% sin and in-fact looking at the opposite sex lustfully even without masturbating is a sin.

3.When does self servicing becomes sinless?:Now understand this fact,Sexual urge is natural,healthy and God created it in us. You can not pray and fast about not having a sexual urge because its as natural as wanting to defecate or urinate.

[b]GOD never intended for a full grown man or woman to be single but today, many factors are responsible for many unmarried adults which brings on them the pressure of sexual urge. If you are sexually active and you have the self control to stay without fornicating,watching pornography or self servicing i say GOD bless you but if you have a very strong libido i will advice you find a way to ease off without fornicating or watching pornography. As i wrote, it is perfectly normal to have sexual urge and it makes sense to ease off rather than burn with passion.

Conclusively,i would say self servicing should be stopped by those who see it as a sin regardless and just like every other habit that can become very addictive,people who indulge in it should know the limits.

However, the first step to stopping self servicing is to get married and if you still find yourself indulging in it with your wife or husband around then it becomes a matter of interest for you to address if it affects your sexual relationship with your wife.[/b]

"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion"1 Corinthians 7:9

Even when we know that masturbation may not be a sure way of avoiding fornication, many people have successfully wade off fornication with the act but the simple fact is that as long as you are a sexually healthy man or woman,you are left with three options...To self service,to fornicate or to burn with passion.

So I ask anyone reading this to sincerely tell us the option he or she would settle for

I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

I prefer to travel to Californicate.

I don't think it's possible for someone to self service without a drive, it's either cos of pornography or fornication, take away these two things and no one will indulge in self servicing.

firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

Please go back and read everything then come back to comment.

Richie0974:
I don't think it's possible for someone to self service without a drive, it's either cos of pornography or fornication, take away these two things and no one will indulge in self servicing.

I'm not here to support or go against the act.The facts about it has been spelt out.

Watching porn is a sin cos you will surely lust after the characters and self servicing watching porn is also a sin.

I know married guys who self service thinking about their wives and some single guys and ladies self service thinking about intimacy. which is a different ball game to watching porn.

Many believers make it so difficult for themselves with vague and baseless human ideology.

If you are matured enough to have sex and you are not impotent then one of the three options must be your choice..leave hypocrisy outta it.

lalasticlala I don't know if this makes sense.

Toks2008:

Please go back and read everything then come back to comment.

I 've already commented as i was led.

firstking01:
I 've already commented as i was led.

Ifahia led?

led by your own philosophy I guess.

If you read tru you will see where I stated clearly that if your heart condemns you when you do it without porn then stop it..Simple.

But no one should call it a sinful act because we can not start choosing what is sinful by human reasoning.

Call it addictive and I will agree, call it a bad habit and I will say it is for those who see it that way but call it a sin and I will ask you to back it up from the sriptures or keep mum.

I repeat, I'm not promoting the act and I don't even know how to whank as they call it but I'm always out to say things as they are without hypocrisy.

Toks2008:


Ifahia led?

led by your own philosophy I guess.

If you read tru you will see where I stated clearly that if your heart condemns you when you do it without porn then stop it..Simple.

But no one should call it a sinful act because we can not start choosing what is sinful by human reasoning.

Call it addictive and I will agree, call it a bad habit and I will say it is for those who see it that way but call it a sin and I will ask you to back it up from the sriptures or keep mum.

I repeat, I'm not promoting the act and I don't even know how to whank as they call it but I'm always out to say things as they arey without hypocrisy.

Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.

firstking01:
Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.

Ogbeni sit your ass down and get this straight.

I am a holy spirit filled,heaven bound believer in Christ and I have led many people to Christ not by preaching heresy but the truth from the bible so sit your ass down and learn right now.

Our body is the temple of God so smoking and "drunkenness" is a sin cos they destroy your body.

Nicotine and alcohol are substances that damage your organs.

Self servicing is a different ball game but the mistake you keep making is mixing up addiction with the subject matter.

Is eating food a sin? hell no but gluttony is a sin and its even in the bible.Any act whether good or bad if done in excess can be detrimental to us so stop mixing things up.

People like you make it difficult for people to make heaven by enslaving yourself in man made philosophy'.People like you go about condemning trouser wearing, weaveons and so on making people to see salvation as bondage.

Please read this thread of mine to have your inner mind open.

https://www.nairaland.com/2579060/8-false-teachings-churches-biblical

I have been a believer since 1987 and I know my stands.

Watching porn is fornication,self servicing while watching porn is fornication but when you are so filled with sexual passion and you are not married you are free to ease off with your imagination if you can but if you have the grace to control yourself good for you.

But if your heart condemns you if you do it then stop it..PERIOD

Toks2008:


Ogbeni sit your ass down and get this straight.

I am a holy spirit filled,heaven bound believer in Christ and I have led many people to Christ not by preaching heresy but the truth from the bible so sit your ass down and learn right now.

Our body is the temple of God so smoking and "drunkenness" is a sin cos they destroy your body.

Nicotine and alcohol are substances that damage your organs.

Self servicing is a different ball game but the mistake you keep making is mixing up addiction with the subject matter.

Is eating food a sin? hell no but gluttony is a sin and its even in the bible.Any act whether good or bad if done in excess can be detrimental to us so stop mixing things up.

People like you make it difficult for people to make heaven by enslaving yourself in man made philosophy'.People like you go about condemning trouser wearing, weaveons and so on making people to see salvation as bondage.

Please read this thread of mine to have your inner mind open.

https://www.nairaland.com/2579060/8-false-teachings-churches-biblical

I have been a believer since 1987 and I know my stands.

Watching porn is fornication,self servicing while watching porn is fornication but when you are so filled with sexual passion and you are not married you are free to ease off with your imagination if you can but if you have the grace to control yourself good for you.

But if your heart condemns you if you do it then stop it..PERIOD

Lol, be mature for once brother....who's competiting with you, and btw, spirituality has no age brackets...you dnt knw shit abt bible or God, stop decieving yourself nigga…what do you mean by "but when you are so filled with sexual passion yet you are not married you are free to ease off yourself with your imagination if you can"...do this and you have a straight ticket to hell...i 've been following and observing your threads for sometime nw, most of which are contradictory and controversial...my warning again to you, stop misleading people with this kind of mindset...if you wanna follow God, follow Him wholly...no put one leg for church one leg for the world cos that's the type of person i think you are...



Goodnight.

firstking01:
Lol, be mature for once brother....who's competiting with you, and btw, spirituality has no age brackets...you dnt knw shit abt bible or God, stop decieving yourself nigga…what do you mean by "but when you are so filled with sexual passion yet you are not married you are free to ease off yourself with your imagination if you can"...do this and you have a straight ticket to hell...i 've been following and observing your threads for sometime nw, most of which are contradictory and controversial...my warning again to you, stop misleading people with this kind of mindset...if you wanna follow God, follow Him wholly...no put one leg for church one leg for the world cos that's the type of person i think you are...



Goodnight.

I smell hypocrisy ...

Please next time dont come barging into matters such as this without concrete quotes from the bible to back your opinion.

I guess having wet dreams should be a sin too.

Enuff said

Good night.

I don't even knw hw I got here,crazy thread

Listen to music.

Isaacmacdon:
This topic is misleading. There are weak people on the internet, pls don't give them the leverage to remain that way. Masturbation is a sin and contains huge spiritual implications. You telling them to ease their sexual desire in their imagination is satanic and not of God. Are you preaching new age techniques or the gospel of christ?

If you have ever self serviced,fornicated or watched pornography or lust after a lady in the last 30days then you are the most hypocritical hell bound person in existence.

I am not passing judgment but im stating the fact.

Many people are in hell today because of people like you as you keep preaching one thing while practicing another.

Many ladies refuse to get born again because they cant imagine not wearing jewelries, trousers and putting on make up and weave ons. Amazingly, many guys have reneged their faith as believers because they can't stop taking alcohol and i really wonder if drunkenness is the same as taking a bottle of stout or a glass of wine.

Believe me, GOD in his infinite awesomeness will look down and laugh at the foolishness of men when it comes to some issues.

[b]Whatever you get addicted to becomes detrimental to your life and that does not make that thing a sin so please call a spade spade.

Addiction to food, water,Internet,normal drugs and so on can be harmful to you but does that make those things a sin?

It is so unfortunate that some of you coming to talk down on sound minded individuals who see self service as a potential bad habit if unchecked rather than call it sin goes to show how shallow minded you people are.

I am happy that i am on nairaland to point out the hypocrisy of many people and i really dont give a hute if lalasticlala does not put some topics of mine on front-page...for all i care,i have passed the message.

A married woman or man whose spouse is not around for a long time can masturbate with super relish just imagining making love to the spouse and in like manner an unmarried person can ease off by thinking about sex which is perfectly normal as human or is thinking about sex also a sin?

But when you watch porn to masturbate, you lust after the characters in the film or magazines and when you watch porn at all, you also commit fornication cos you lust after the characters as the bible says if you LOOK at a woman or man lustfully it becomes a sin.

My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless.

Many people are in hell today because after they gave their life to christ, they see themselves still self servicing and in their own mind because of the false doctrines from people like you and firstking01 gave up their salvation because they felt they cant make the kingdom of GOD. [/b]


If anyone comes online again to discredit what i wrote up there without vivid back up from the sriptures na e-slap sure pass for that person.HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.

This toks guy get mind sha.

Toks2008 i doubt any of the people agitating you read what you wrote up there.

5minsmadness:


This toks guy get mind sha.

Toks2008 i doubt any of the people agitating you read what you wrote up there.

My broda I get mind die and I can look anybody in the eyes and expose their hypocrisy.

I know many people don't read before commenting.

I can not fold my hands and see innocent people go to hell because they gave up their salvation due to false teachings of hypocrites.

Do you know that many people actually renounced their salvation because they masturbated after accepting Christ?

If people like me and others who know the truth just keep mum then many souls will end up in hell.

I have spelt it out clear and I leave it lalasticlala to push this out so that people can know the truth and maybe counter it from the bible so I will also learn and make corrections.

Masturbation is good and its always good ;Doya ask me why It saves you from heartbreak from partners and thinking about the several partners you had Anything you do is only you and you only

octopusfreaky:
Masturbation is good and its always good ;Doya ask me why It saves you from heartbreak from partners and thinking about the several partners you had Anything you do is only you and you only

Food is good and eating is sinless provided you eat reasonably but when you eat too much you become a glutton and gluttony is a sin.

Taking alcohol is never mentioned as a sin but when you allow drunkenness to set in then you have sinned but because many people usually cross the line, pastors preach against taking alcohol and I totally support that.

Even if masturbation was never mentioned as a sin, we should know that addiction to it just like any other addiction is not right but calling the act a sin is the issue I have.

Many people will still come here to call it a sin BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS...is that not foolishness?

Toks2008:


If you have ever self serviced,fornicated or watched pornography or lust after a lady in the last 30days then you are the most hypocritical hell bound person in existence.

I am not passing judgment but im stating the fact.

Many people are in hell today because of people like you as you keep preaching one thing while practicing another.

Many ladies refuse to get born again because they cant imagine not wearing jewelries, trousers and putting on make up and weave ons. Amazingly, many guys have reneged their faith as believers because they can't stop taking alcohol and i really wonder if drunkenness is the same as taking a bottle of stout or a glass of wine.

Believe me, GOD in his infinite awesomeness will look down and laugh at the foolishness of men when it comes to some issues.

[b]Whatever you get addicted to becomes detrimental to your life and that does not make that thing a sin so please call a spade spade.

Addiction to food, water,Internet,normal drugs and so on can be harmful to you but does that make those things a sin?

It is so unfortunate that some of you coming to talk down on sound minded individuals who see self service as a potential bad habit if unchecked rather than call it sin goes to show how shallow minded you people are.

I am happy that i am on nairaland to point out the hypocrisy of many people and i really dont give a hute if lalasticlala does not put some topics of mine on front-page...for all i care,i have passed the message.

A married woman or man whose spouse is not around for a long time can masturbate with super relish just imagining making love to the spouse and in like manner an unmarried person can ease off by thinking about sex which is perfectly normal as human or is thinking about sex also a sin?

But when you watch porn to masturbate, you lust after the characters in the film or magazines and when you watch porn at all, you also commit fornication cos you lust after the characters as the bible says if you LOOK at a woman or man lustfully it becomes a sin.

My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless.

Many people are in hell today because after they gave their life to christ, they see themselves still self servicing and in their own mind because of the false doctrines from people like you and firstking01 gave up their salvation because they felt they cant make the kingdom of GOD. [/b]


If anyone comes online again to discredit what i wrote up there without vivid back up from the sriptures na e-slap sure pass for that person.HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.

Just look at the piece of trash you spilled up there. You calling me a hypocrite when there's no evidence of that in my comment really shows how ridiculous and false you are. You are a wolf in sheep clothing. You claim to be a true believer and you go about condemning people with different opinion to hell.

Isaacmacdon:
Just look at the piece of trash you spilled up there. You calling me a hypocrite when there's no evidence of that in my comment really shows how ridiculous and false you are. You are a wolf in sheep clothing. You claim to be a true believer and you go about condemning people with different opinion to hell.

If I were you I will keep off this thread rather than come here to ridicule yourself

I'm happy the bible is still with us so if you cant make reasonable contribution with biblical reference just keep mum and sulk in your hypocrisy

I'm eager to learn and I can't wait to change my mindset but I'm not ready for town criers like you..Yes I'm hard on you and no apologies..I just detest hypocrites.

When you are ready to discuss with biblical reference I will gladly indulge you but until then I may have to ignore you.

firstking01:
Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.

see guy free that guy joor. His just doing the work of his father the devil.

Toks2008:


If I were you I will keep off this thread rather than come here to ridicule yourself

I'm happy the bible is still with us so if you cant make reasonable contribution with biblical reference just keep mum and sulk in your hypocrisy

I'm eager to learn and I can't wait to change my mindset but I'm not ready for town criers like you..Yes I'm hard on you and no apologies..I just detest hypocrites.

1st corinthians 6 vs 13; someone else will say, "food is for the stomach, and the stomach is for food." Yes; but God will put an end to both. The body is not to be used for sexual immorality, but to serve the lord; and the lord provides for the body.

Vs 18; avoid immorality. Any other sin a man commits does not affect his body; but the man who is guity of sexual immorality sins against his own body.

Vs 19; don't you know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit, who lives in you and who was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourselves but to God

I suppose you're a spirit filled believer. Decipher that scripture slowing. I know you're not an illiterate spiritually.

Isaacmacdon:
1st corinthians 6 vs 13; someone else will say, "food is for the stomach, and the stomach is for food." Yes; but God will put an end to both. The body is not to be used for sexual immorality, but to serve the lord; and the lord provides for the body.

You are now communicating so my questions are;

Is thinking about sex a sin?

How does masturbation becomes sexual immorality?

If I'm married and my wife travels, is it a sin if I masturbate thinking about sex with my wife?

As an unmarried person is it a sin if I ease off thinking about sex?

Please note that you are now discussing the matter from the scriptures so I would like you to back up your answers with scriptures.