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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Tkayhandsome(m): 11:40pm On Aug 27, 2016
You done mad. Masturbation is a sin just lie is a sin abi? All na the same. You are wired to be touched, so go ahead. Try it today. Its sweet.
mauriceju2:
Guy masturbation is sin, it will be difficult for you to understand because of many spiritual things that you don't know, a guy was deliver from witchcraft, he has been practising witch craft for yrs, he says that demons dont operate well and some time cannot operate at all where there is the spirit of God, if this happens what they then do is to chase the spirit of God away from that place so that they can operate, how they do this is by making that place unclean, he said that the spirit of God is too holy that he can not stand anything unclean, and masturbation is one of the things that make one unclean in the spiritual real. Guy there are many things going on in the spiritual world that u will never believe,
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by munchi(m): 11:41pm On Aug 27, 2016
Bluetooth2:


The kind of stuff guys come up with just to justify their inability to sustain a good relationship with the opposite s'e'x is not only childish but utterly hysteria.


Any act you engage in and you don't want anyone to see you while doing it, then it becomes a sin. That's common sense!
do your father allow u see were his fucking your mum?

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by tomakint: 11:43pm On Aug 27, 2016
Isaacmacdon:
see guy free that guy joor. His just doing the work of his father the devil.
Are you a born again christian?
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by mrphysics(m): 11:46pm On Aug 27, 2016
Toks2008:


Ifahia led?

led by your own philosophy I guess.

If you read tru you will see where I stated clearly that if your heart condemns you when you do it without porn then stop it..Simple.

But no one should call it a sinful act because we can not start choosing what is sinful by human reasoning.

Call it addictive and I will agree, call it a bad habit and I will say it is for those who see it that way but call it a sin and I will ask you to back it up from the sriptures or keep mum.

I repeat, I'm not promoting the act and I don't even know how to whank as they call it but I'm always out to say things as they are without hypocrisy.
it's becoming obvious that God is loosing u to the devil. I blame the Mods that push this to front page. Where did u see Exam Malpractice in the Bible, and where did u see smoking in the bible, yet there are all good to you. Am afraid, u r doomed. Repent
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Shemkaz09: 11:47pm On Aug 27, 2016
whosoever find fun in it should continue, Shebi na una get ur body. so let's leave judgemrnt till we reach Baba "G" side #AyafSpoken #issokayBye
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by OpinionCounts(m): 11:47pm On Aug 27, 2016
Toks2008:


I know married guys who self service thinking about their wives and some single guys and ladies self service thinking about intimacy. which is a different ball game to watching porn.

Please can u explain what you mean by "thinking about intimacy" and how dat is different from lustful thinking which the Bible condemns, thank you.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by MisterKings(m): 11:47pm On Aug 27, 2016
Pharisees and Hypocrites are those who will deny they have no sex drive
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by NDsaint4(m): 11:48pm On Aug 27, 2016
Masturbation is bad pls don't engage on it before you destroy your future....
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Yommy247(m): 11:52pm On Aug 27, 2016
petux:
prefer masturbation over sex
opunu

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by MisterKings(m): 11:52pm On Aug 27, 2016
Good piece OP.
No one should be ashamed to express his or her sexual desire. Its something that came with the whole package unless you are impotent as a guy or u are an alien as a woman.
God cannot send thunder to fire you for servicing yourself. So all you holy christians who commit more sins than the people of this world should stop blocking your minds with illegal scripture because the useless Roman catholic who are this religion's pioneers have made you think junk all these years in order to keep you in line.

These same people in rome who condemn sex and prevent themselves from sexual activities because they think God expects this of them. These same people indulge in pedophilia with young boys.

Why? Because they cannot hold it in. They cannot hold back the desire of sex, the body system cant, so it finds a way to sack out that desire.

Everybody dey assume wetin Jesus talk and wetin he mean. I believe its all about your conscience. For example I dont see anything wrong with putting tatoos and wearing on an earring as a man, all that matters is my faith in him. But if you see something wrong with it, thats u..... so simply work in alignment with what your conscience tells u. Dont tag it as a sin just because u aint cool with it.
For example,
There are times when i masturbate and i feel good about it and there are times when i masturbate and i find myself feeling guilty. The latter comes when i overdo it.

God lives in everyone whether Christian or not. He is that little voice in our conscience that tells us when we stepped across the line.

Na for here we dey carry nonsense laws put for head thats y oyinbo ppl beta pass us cos they always express every part of themselves to the fullest. No holds barred cos they understand the word nature. Here we still live in the stone age where if you dont marry its a sin and if u are single cos of Buhari period u are not allowed to either f**k or service ur self. Rubbish.

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Toks2008:
I have seen many threads on nairaland concerning self servicing and each time i read these threads i just shake my head in disbelief and i just marvel at the level of hypocrisy many people bring into the subject matter but today i want to present my candid take on self servicing using the very words of GOD as guide.

1.Is self servicing a sin?
: I have hoped that one day, someone will really quote a bible passage that condemns self servicing but so far what we have seen are human philosophies and personal conviction about the matter.I don't know what the Quran says about it but The truth is that the Bible is totally silent about this matter.Many scholars have sited the story of onan(Genesis 38) who spilled his fluid on the ground but a deep understanding of that story shows that GOD punished him for disobedience rather than the act.

Until we find a good scripture to point to self servicing as a sin i will urge people to stop using human ideology to deceive people about the subject matter."Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."Colossians 2:8

2.When does self servicing becomes a sin
:I always asked; when you masturbate how do you do it?what goes through your mind? I really don’t think a single man or woman will be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about sex and i don't understand why it becomes a sin for a human who GOD created with sexual urge to think about sex.

But when you watch porn or indulge in pornographic induced self servicing then you have actually committed fornication and i will back this up with the scriptures..."But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"Matthew 5:28
This means when you self service while "looking" at pornographic materials,it is only natural to lust after the men or women in the film or magazines and that makes it outright Adultery/fornication making it 100% sin and in-fact looking at the opposite sex lustfully even without masturbating is a sin.

3.When does self servicing becomes sinless?
:Now understand this fact,Sexual urge is natural,healthy and God created it in us. You can not pray and fast about not having a sexual urge because its as natural as wanting to defecate or urinate.

[b]GOD never intended for a full grown man or woman to be single but today, many factors are responsible for many unmarried adults which brings on them the pressure of sexual urge. If you are sexually active and you have the self control to stay without fornicating,watching pornography or self servicing i say GOD bless you but if you have a very strong libido i will advice you find a way to ease off without fornicating or watching pornography. As i wrote, it is perfectly normal to have sexual urge and it makes sense to ease off rather than burn with passion.

Conclusively,i would say self servicing should be stopped by those who see it as a sin regardless and just like every other habit that can become very addictive,people who indulge in it should know the limits.

However, the first step to stopping self servicing is to get married and if you still find yourself indulging in it with your wife or husband around then it becomes a matter of interest for you to address if it affects your sexual relationship with your wife.
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"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion"1 Corinthians 7:9

Even when we know that masturbation may not be a sure way of avoiding fornication, many people have successfully wade off fornication with the act but the simple fact is that as long as you are a sexually healthy man or woman,you are left with three options...To self service,to fornicate or to burn with passion.

So I ask anyone reading this to sincerely tell us the option he or she would settle for

Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Nobody: 11:54pm On Aug 27, 2016
munchi:
do your father allow u see were his fucking your mum?

Read what I wrote before quoting me and spewing gibberish.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by tomakint: 11:55pm On Aug 27, 2016
hankkk:
May God grant unto us sound understanding! Amen! I want to believe that if we had understanding about some things we wouldn't have to debate them before we desist. Masturbation is not just the physical thing you think you do by toying with your parts, it acually has a very deep spiritual angle. When you masturbate you are actually having intercourse with spirits (some people call them spirit spouses), I will just call them spirit partners. Now you may be tempted to say, what is the big deal in having sex with spirits? For those of you who have heard about spirit spouses, you'd know that when a person has been espoused to a spirit partner, the spirit partner prevents such a person from making significant progress in life- because it sees that person as it's partner it could prevent one from getting a human partner(husband/wife), if one is already married it could prevent one from child bearing, if one already has children it could bring about confusion in the family to cause separation, etc. In short what spirit partners do is, they cause delay in important areas of ones life. For people that masturbate, try to examine your lives honestly , are there not areas where you are really experiencing significant delays? The only way you can be free is to stop having intercourse with spirits by way of masturbation. With fervent prayer and by starving these spirits of sex you will start making progress in life, because these spirits will no more have power over you and your destiny. Give this a deep thought, please. Shalom!
This is absolutely the whole truth! I perceive you are a MAN OF GOD!
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by munchi(m): 12:01am On Aug 28, 2016
Bluetooth2:


Read what I wrote before quoting me and spewing gibberish.
then summaries it or rather teach me English
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Bishop0nyenmeme(m): 12:02am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008:


Ogbeni sit your ass down and get this straight.

I am a holy spirit filled,heaven bound believer in Christ and I have led many people to Christ not by preaching heresy but the truth from the bible so sit your ass down and learn right now.

Our body is the temple of God so smoking and "drunkenness" is a sin cos they destroy your body.

Nicotine and alcohol are substances that damage your organs.

Self servicing is a different ball game but the mistake you keep making is mixing up addiction with the subject matter.

Is eating food a sin? hell no but gluttony is a sin and its even in the bible.Any act whether good or bad if done in excess can be detrimental to us so stop mixing things up.

People like you make it difficult for people to make heaven by enslaving yourself in man made philosophy'.People like you go about condemning trouser wearing, weaveons and so on making people to see salvation as bondage.

Please read this thread of mine to have your inner mind open.

https://www.nairaland.com/2579060/8-false-teachings-churches-biblical

I have been a believer since 1987 and I know my stands.

Watching porn is fornication,self servicing while watching porn is fornication but when you are so filled with sexual passion and you are not married you are free to ease off with your imagination if you can but if you have the grace to control yourself good for you.

But if your heart condemns you if you do it then stop it..PERIOD
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Dpearlz: 12:03am On Aug 28, 2016
Brother, thank you for this very educative topic but here is what I think.

The word immorality means something that is wrong or is wrongly used. So sexual immorality simply means the wrong use of the tool called sex.

Now you may ask, what is the right use? It is a spiritual tool used to bind two individuals as explained by Jesus in Mathew 19:4-5

4. He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

And for reproduction purposes.

Anything outside these uses is considered as sexual immorality.

So masturbation doesn't have to be in the bible for it to be a big SIN.
Masturbation, as the guy above me have said, is a tool in which demonic spirits bind them selves to people here on earth. Most porn videos are channels of these spirits also. So brother run from it.

About the people that have dumped Christianity because they couldn't cope, the bible says by strength shall no man prevail, when you give your life to Jesus and genuinely ask for God's grace to overcome all these sins, the Lord will give you grace. But you have to study God's word daily, pray and attend a bible beliving church so that you can grow your spirit man.

Cheers my people.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Trudiee(f): 12:04am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008, i read everything n I'd like to comment. You see, the church preaches that it is a sin. I'm a catholic and honestly, I've actually thought about this before, why masturbation is considered a sin, cause a human being has urges, and fornication is not an option.

I hope you read everything tho

well it got me thinkin. the reason why its considered a sin is because, when you masturbate, you ease off pent up sexual urges, which should have been done with someone, and not something you should do alone.

now, a person can become comfortable doing this, easing off any day any time, but God's intention is for man to procreate. when everyone is comfortable easing off on their own, that intention is defeated.. and that is why the church condemns it.

i read ur write up tho. You made a lot of points. I mean, why create the urge in us when we should not satisfy it in any way.. till at least ure ready for marriage.

but we can't question God.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by donifez(m): 12:04am On Aug 28, 2016
I am not a strong Christian but one thing I noticed in our religion settings are hypocrites and fanatics. As for the subject masturbation... I don't really have a standing point on it,but the level of hypocrites on this thread is at its acme. Na Nigerians know the whole sin and all that. As an individual the greatest thing is "love" regardless of religion.

Most Nigerians act holy on Sunday.. some see others mistakes and castigate them. I raise hand for una.

As for the OP I understand your point. I thank God you are not a fanatic.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Nobody: 12:05am On Aug 28, 2016
munchi:
then summaries it or rather teach me English

You meant summarize ? Dude, bounce !
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Bishop0nyenmeme(m): 12:07am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008:


Ogbeni sit your ass down and get this straight.

I am a holy spirit filled,heaven bound believer in Christ and I have led many people to Christ not by preaching heresy but the truth from the bible so sit your ass down and learn right now.

Our body is the temple of God so smoking and "drunkenness" is a sin cos they destroy your body.

Nicotine and alcohol are substances that damage your organs.

Self servicing is a different ball game but the mistake you keep making is mixing up addiction with the subject matter.

Is eating food a sin? hell no but gluttony is a sin and its even in the bible.Any act whether good or bad if done in excess can be detrimental to us so stop mixing things up.

People like you make it difficult for people to make heaven by enslaving yourself in man made philosophy'.People like you go about condemning trouser wearing, weaveons and so on making people to see salvation as bondage.

Please read this thread of mine to have your inner mind open.

https://www.nairaland.com/2579060/8-false-teachings-churches-biblical

I have been a believer since 1987 and I know my stands.

Watching porn is fornication,self servicing while watching porn is fornication but when you are so filled with sexual passion and you are not married you are free to ease off with your imagination if you can but if you have the grace to control yourself good for you.

But if your heart condemns you if you do it then stop it..PERIOD




Sorry if i sound hash, but i must tell you the truth,
YOU DONT SOUND LIKE A BELIVER TO ME. PERIOD
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by girl4rmspace(f): 12:08am On Aug 28, 2016
petux:
prefer masturbation over sex
kidding right?
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Yommy247(m): 12:09am On Aug 28, 2016
octopusfreaky:
Masturbation is good and its always good grin grin grin grin grin ;Doya ask me why angry angry angry It saves you from heartbreak from partners and thinking about the several partners you had shocked shocked Anything you do is only you and you only
no need for that babe. can help you out anytime the thing dey scratch you. PM me

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Dpearlz: 12:10am On Aug 28, 2016
MisterKings:

Pharisees and Hypocrites are those who will deny they have no sex drive



Bross, everybody has sex drives but the ability to control your sex drive makes you a Man/woman. If control nor dey the number or rape cases go too plenty. You're the person in control and not your libido.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by ojinuocheibi(m): 12:11am On Aug 28, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
not true
you do...... yes you.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by munchi(m): 12:13am On Aug 28, 2016
Bluetooth2:


You meant summarize ? Dude, bounce !
auto prediction from my phone,u can bounce to hell
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by MisterKings(m): 12:15am On Aug 28, 2016
Dpearlz:


Bross, everybody has sex drives but the ability to control your sex drive makes you a Man/woman. If control nor dey the number or rape cases go too plenty. You're the person in control and not your libido.

You can only control it for so long. A day always comes when you will be so filled with the desire to just free ur self. Just like you control ur bladder when pressed in a bus and when you get home from work na to run enter bathroom to ease yourself. They work the same way bros unless one is d&#kless and or impotent.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Nobody: 12:19am On Aug 28, 2016
munchi:
auto prediction from my phone,u can bounce to hell

You can continue to polish your pole for all I care, it's your fuuckin problem. Go get yourself a life instead investing your precious time knocking yourself off. Like I said, piss off!
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by tomakint: 12:19am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008:


I have asked some questions but people shy away from it.

Marriage is the first step to stopping masturbation...

The problem is that we have become so hypocritical about some things in life.

Is sexual thought a sin?

Is it a sin to have wet dreams

is it a sin to touch your sexual organs?

Is it a sin to defecate and urinate?

Why does it become a sin to ease off sexual tension when your system yearns for fornication proper?

If after marriage you still find yourself doing it then its either your spouse is depriving you of regular sex or you have crossed the line.

I hate it when people use human ideology to suggest what is sinful and what is not...i t is heresy and a grave sin to add or subtract from Gods words.

Do you know that soldiers during war masturbates? intact I saw a documentary where they used a intimacy gadget and I was like this is fair enough.

Do you know that doctors recommend self service to some people?

In fact I don't know what to say.
I hardly comment on sensitive but necessary topics like this, however I have a clear understanding of your disposition to the "topic in question" especially how many Christians tend to use their human doctrinated principles to explain away "Masturbation" without convincing explanations to those who are willing to learn. The hypocritical angle in your debates is well noted and to a large extent very true.

However, I am of the firm belief that "Masturbation is a sin" because of the "silent guilt" that comes with the post actions. You may hink you are deriving pleasures with yourself but deep down its something strange coming from within which is, "I just made love to myself" shocked now go through the Bible from Genesis to Revelations you will agree with me that although "Masturbation" may not have occurred in the Bible as a word but think about you "making love to yourself" to derive pleasure and imagine how God (who created sex between husband and wife and even institutionalized marriage for procreation, love, unity and spiritual bond) will view MASTURBATION! Remember this God frowns seriously against same-sex inter course. God speed bro.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Nobody: 12:20am On Aug 28, 2016
Masturbation is a sin. A sane human knows what is immoral and what is not. No biblical verses are required for that; we all have a conscience.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by munchi(m): 12:22am On Aug 28, 2016
Bluetooth2:


You can continue to polish your pole for all I care, it's your fuuckin problem. Go get yourself a life instead investing your precious time knocking yourself off. Like I said, piss off!
then why quote me,wasted sperm
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by irunoko(m): 12:24am On Aug 28, 2016
P
MisterKings:


How does that speak of masturbation
1st thesalonans 4.3-5
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Nobody: 12:24am On Aug 28, 2016
munchi:
then why quote me,wasted sperm

Pfft
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by irunoko(m): 12:25am On Aug 28, 2016
MisterKings:


Is that so? Well then if we must keep everything the bible says and failure to do that makes it a sin. Then the part where paul says women should cover their hair and not speak in church should also be a sin.

I am a Christian but God i hate Christianity cos of how they pamper Bible to suit them and the part that is too difficult they waive it off with twisted interpretation.

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Colossians 3.5

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