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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by sadieq: 12:25am On Aug 28, 2016
This is what Allah said in the Qur'an...23 verses 5-7 "
5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e.
private parts, from illegal sexual acts)
6. Except from their wives or (the captives and
slaves) that their right hands possess, for then,
they are free from blame;
7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those
are the transgressors;"

so if we can do justice to ourselves, masturbation is beyond what is stated in verse 6.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by aagon: 12:29am On Aug 28, 2016
the bible says in hebrews 12:1 that we should lay aside every weight and sin which easily beset us.looking at this verse very closely the term WEIGHT here means talkativeness,masturbation,coveteousness,hypocricy and the likes. this things re nt sin but they can weaken our spirituality.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Dpearlz: 12:30am On Aug 28, 2016
MisterKings:


You can only control it for so long. A day always comes when you will be so filled with the desire to just free ur self. Just like you control ur bladder when pressed in a bus and when you get home from work na to run enter bathroom to ease yourself. They work the same way bros unless one is d&#kless and or impotent.

Bross, I understand you well. If it were to be some months ago I would've totally agreed with you but now I know a bit better.

You sure can control it, I'm not saying it will be very easy or you can do it by your strength alone but it is not impossible. Trust me you will live a more joyful life if you can put it in check till you get married.
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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Felixtuta(m): 12:45am On Aug 28, 2016
Is better to have sex than to masturbate...reasons are because a man that masturbates usually Jek off faster during the main sex due to unnecessary pressure he puts himself during masturbating.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by TMANO: 12:52am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008:


You are now communicating so my questions are;

Is thinking about sex a sin?

How does masturbation becomes sexual immorality?

If I'm married and my wife travels, is it a sin if I masturbate thinking about sex with my wife?

As an unmarried person is it a sin if I ease off thinking about sex?

Please note that you are now discussing the matter from the scriptures so I would like you to back up your answers with scriptures.


SO, Pls explain, if the married is thinking of his wife and doing it, how do u think about sex {as a single} without an object in mind i.e ur partner}

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by paulbabu(m): 12:54am On Aug 28, 2016
Ops, I disagree with the basis of your points here
you said masturbation is a sin when it involves pornohraphy or sexual images cos human wil lust after them in masturbating,
that a person who self-services doesn't commit a sin cos he didn't lust after image, u claimed it could be thinking of sex with his spouse
but come to think of it, sex is a thing of d mind likewise masturbation, d body processes what u have nurtured in your mind, if that's right, can't a human lust in his mind, and in doing this , he has fornicated in his mind, for example , you think of having sex with someone who is not your wife, that's fornication...
I have read here before about someone who revealed he masturbated even at d sight of an image of Mary(mother of Jesus) in d church!

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Coolgent(m): 12:54am On Aug 28, 2016
Toks2008:
I have seen many threads on nairaland concerning self servicing and each time i read these threads i just shake my head in disbelief and i just marvel at the level of hypocrisy many people bring into the subject matter but today i want to present my candid take on self servicing using the very words of GOD as guide.

1.Is self servicing a sin?
: I have hoped that one day, someone will really quote a bible passage that condemns self servicing but so far what we have seen are human philosophies and personal conviction about the matter.I don't know what the Quran says about it but The truth is that the Bible is totally silent about this matter.Many scholars have sited the story of onan(Genesis 38) who spilled his fluid on the ground but a deep understanding of that story shows that GOD punished him for disobedience rather than the act.

Until we find a good scripture to point to self servicing as a sin i will urge people to stop using human ideology to deceive people about the subject matter."Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."Colossians 2:8

2.When does self servicing becomes a sin
:I always asked; when you masturbate how do you do it?what goes through your mind? I really don’t think a single man or woman will be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about sex and i don't understand why it becomes a sin for a human who GOD created with sexual urge to think about sex.

But when you watch porn or indulge in pornographic induced self servicing then you have actually committed fornication and i will back this up with the scriptures..."But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"Matthew 5:28
This means when you self service while "looking" at pornographic materials,it is only natural to lust after the men or women in the film or magazines and that makes it outright Adultery/fornication making it 100% sin and in-fact looking at the opposite sex lustfully even without masturbating is a sin.

3.When does self servicing becomes sinless?
:Now understand this fact,Sexual urge is natural,healthy and God created it in us. You can not pray and fast about not having a sexual urge because its as natural as wanting to defecate or urinate.

[b]GOD never intended for a full grown man or woman to be single but today, many factors are responsible for many unmarried adults which brings on them the pressure of sexual urge. If you are sexually active and you have the self control to stay without fornicating,watching pornography or self servicing i say GOD bless you but if you have a very strong libido i will advice you find a way to ease off without fornicating or watching pornography. As i wrote, it is perfectly normal to have sexual urge and it makes sense to ease off rather than burn with passion.

Conclusively,i would say self servicing should be stopped by those who see it as a sin regardless and just like every other habit that can become very addictive,people who indulge in it should know the limits.

However, the first step to stopping self servicing is to get married and if you still find yourself indulging in it with your wife or husband around then it becomes a matter of interest for you to address if it affects your sexual relationship with your wife.
[/b]

"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion"1 Corinthians 7:9

Even when we know that masturbation may not be a sure way of avoiding fornication, many people have successfully wade off fornication with the act but the simple fact is that as long as you are a sexually healthy man or woman,you are left with three options...To self service,to fornicate or to burn with passion.

So I ask anyone reading this to sincerely tell us the option he or she would settle for

Islam forbid it, u should have google it
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by xxxtedyxxx(m): 12:56am On Aug 28, 2016
lol....bunch of "masturbators" everwhere.

lol Op you mean a single guy can self-service w/o lustful thinking...?

How abeg?

How can a guy burst his nuts over thoughts of intimacy?.

I am off the opinion that you cant self-service without lusting over a girl/woman/pic you saw..etc.

What are the thoughts of intimacy you mentioned? How does it differ from lust?

Grabs...soap...and vaseline cheesy

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by gees02(m): 1:26am On Aug 28, 2016
munchi:
do your father allow u see were his fucking your mum?

Thank you so much for this. some people just say nonsense

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by AAinEqGuinea: 1:38am On Aug 28, 2016
Jesus saved me.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by tete7000(m): 1:53am On Aug 28, 2016
You must be perfect just as your heavenly father is perfect - Matthew 5:48.
Does God think about sex? I doubt. We are humans, we live in the flesh and do suffer imperfections of the flesh.So God understands as Christ himself lived in the flesh.
Does that stop us from seeking perfection? No. So what do we do? We do not use out human fraility to justify our imperfection, rather we everyday confess our sinfulness and look up to God to give us strength to live as Christ commanded us to - to be pure, spotless and blameless before God. Where sin abounds, grace abounds even more, Apostle Paul wrote. Let's take the advantage of this grace.
A food for thought.

Cc Toks2008

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by gj22(m): 2:00am On Aug 28, 2016
firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

Because you feel guilty after doing it doesn't mean everyone does.


And how is it defiling your body when all you are doing is playing with yourself?

Your points didn't even counter OP's points at all, it's still the same human ideology /philosophy AKA point of view he is talking about.


Also, you lost the right to make an argument or point since you didn't even read the post.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by gj22(m): 2:04am On Aug 28, 2016
firstking01:
Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.
re

Wtf is this upvoted?
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by gj22(m): 2:09am On Aug 28, 2016
Isaacmacdon:
This topic is misleading. There are weak people on the internet, pls don't give them the leverage to remain that way. Masturbation is a sin and contains huge spiritual implications. You telling them to ease their sexual desire in their imagination is satanic and not of God. Are you preaching new age techniques or the gospel of christ?, if this ever makes the frontpage, I strongly recommend that whatever the o.p means shouldn't be taken seriously. Wisdom is staring at us but we overlook it and go in search of foolishness, and then boast that its wisdom.

I honestly do not understand humans. Someone said something that you obviously disagree with but it never dawned on you to atleast counter his argument?

You are basically telling people not to listen to OP but to listen to you, yet you can't tell them y.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by dayspring24(m): 2:09am On Aug 28, 2016
You may look at it from any angle you want, but one sure thing is that you can't finish masturbating and go off immediately into a worship or prayer session. Masturbation is a work of the flesh and it fights against the Life in the spirit.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by gj22(m): 2:11am On Aug 28, 2016
Isaacmacdon:
1st corinthians 6 vs 13; someone else will say, "food is for the stomach, and the stomach is for food." Yes; but God will put an end to both. The body is not to be used for sexual immorality, but to serve the lord; and the lord provides for the body.

Vs 18; avoid immorality. Any other sin a man commits does not affect his body; but the man who is guity of sexual immorality sins against his own body.

Vs 19; don't you know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit, who lives in you and who was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourselves but to God


I suppose you're a spirit filled believer. Decipher that scripture slowing. I know you're not an illiterate spiritually.

How is masturbation sexual immorality?

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Leez(m): 2:31am On Aug 28, 2016
firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.
was agreeing with u till u got to the porb part
sex as u said is natural and all sex starts from the brain
there must be a stimulus/li for your urge to kick in
that is the reason when you see a lady u like your brain reacts gerrit
so whiplashing to porn is NO sin my broda.besides didnt u say married men whiplash thinking of their wives
by ur logic they are sinning too
masturbation is not a sin and will never be a sin
ffs animals masturbate
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by pweetyz(f): 2:32am On Aug 28, 2016
If during church programmes,people with self servicing problems are called out and prayed for then I think it's a sin

Besides I doubt if one can self service without having lustful thoughts so by that act they would have also sinned in their thoughts

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by funmercy1(f): 2:37am On Aug 28, 2016
SEX is between a man a woman ordinance by God, not between self, or the same SEX..... Anyway people like you are here to prove the Bible is ture.......... Running away before he called me am hypocrite.....
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Leez(m): 2:44am On Aug 28, 2016
MisterKings:
BENEFITS OF MASTURBATION

1. Eases your drive and desire so you dont have to commit the original sin of fornication.

2. Saves you from contacting STDs.

3. Eases your mind from stress. Acts as a health remedy.

.

also increases your timing during sex
i feel d main reason why ppl feel whiplash is a sin is dt in africa sex ed is mainly given to d females thus dy tend to b sexually mature and wiser compared to males
cuz even doctors will advise u to do it from time to time
as with all tinz in life too much of evrytin is bad
oh and all thse w/lash is a sin crew newsflash:we live in a sinful world that is God taught us how to pray and receive frgivness of sins ohhhhh

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Leez(m): 2:45am On Aug 28, 2016
funmercy1:
SEX is between a man a woman ordinance by God, not between self, or the same SEX..... Anyway people like you are here to prove the Bible is ture.......... Running away before he called me am hypocrite.....
i hope u knw women have higher sex drive compared to men
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by clitah: 3:05am On Aug 28, 2016
@ Toks 2008,

Your write-up is a highly contradictory and your responses far from polite and I plead with you to have a re-think of your journey to heaven.A holy spirit filled ,heaven bound believer ought to be peaceful in his/her responses.

You seem to justify masturbation.

What if you get to heaven on the last day to discover that masturbation is a sin and that nothing impure enters there?

What will you do my brother/sister?

Why not burn with a little passion now (according to your write-up) than that of hell because the truth is certain.






Toks2008:


Ogbeni sit your ass down and get this straight.

I am a holy spirit filled,heaven bound believer in Christ and I have led many people to Christ not by preaching heresy but the truth from the bible so sit your ass down and learn right now.

Our body is the temple of God so smoking and "drunkenness" is a sin cos they destroy your body.

Nicotine and alcohol are substances that damage your organs.

Self servicing is a different ball game but the mistake you keep making is mixing up addiction with the subject matter.

Is eating food a sin? hell no but gluttony is a sin and its even in the bible.Any act whether good or bad if done in excess can be detrimental to us so stop mixing things up.

People like you make it difficult for people to make heaven by enslaving yourself in man made philosophy'.People like you go about condemning trouser wearing, weaveons and so on making people to see salvation as bondage.

Please read this thread of mine to have your inner mind open.

https://www.nairaland.com/2579060/8-false-teachings-churches-biblical

I have been a believer since 1987 and I know my stands.

Watching porn is fornication,self servicing while watching porn is fornication but when you are so filled with sexual passion and you are not married you are free to ease off with your imagination if you can but if you have the grace to control yourself good for you.

But if your heart condemns you if you do it then stop it..PERIOD
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by egojiokwu(m): 3:16am On Aug 28, 2016
Abusers of themselves shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1corintians 6:9. Correct me if abusers of themselves are not those that masturbate

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by benjibabs(m): 3:53am On Aug 28, 2016
John 16:13
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.

For any controversial topic in the bible, our best bet is to consult the author - Holy Spirit. He is in us to guide us into all truth.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by TradeAssistPOS: 4:01am On Aug 28, 2016
I hear when doctors require semen for artificial insemination they ask the man to masturbate.

If you look at sperm as a human fluid which it is anyway. It may just be as simple as releasing fluids that trigger hormonal reactions.

For example when a child doesn't suck breast as much as the breast priduces, mother can extract the milk out of her body without the child necessarily sucking it out.

The fact that a knife can be used to kill doesn't make it bad.

I understand when God specifically instructs a person to desist from the act that one should adhere out of obedience cos it's just like a child being stopped from playing video games because of tendencies.

I stop my first son from playing video games outright because he doesn't even know when to stop but my daughter and second son treat video games like another toys so I hardly stop them.

Now there is a main issue here.

That u dont masturbate doesn't make you more righteous before God because the concept of righteousness is not what you do or don't do.It is a gift from God.

So I will conclude with this if you are truly a child of God.He doesn't leave us without a guide. The Holy Spirit instructs us on matters like this through our conscience so follow his guidance.

But if you're not Born Again you won't go to hell not because you masturbate. But you will go to hell because you reject God gift of righteousness through his son.Jesus Christ.

And if you as a born again he has instructed you not too strive against maturbation with every blood in your body for there is a reward.

The destruction comes to that one who has confessed Jesus as Lord with or without maturbation.

If you want to give your heart to Christ.

Just say these words after me.

Lord Jesus I believe you came to the world to die for my sins, and on the third day to were raised up for my justification.

I confess you as the Lord of my life from this day on.

Thank God I am a child of God now. I have the life of God in my Spirit now.

Amen

You have a miracle of salvation to anyone who can mean those words.

God bless you. I will like to read your Testimonies.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by horrmorr(m): 4:02am On Aug 28, 2016
Isaacmacdon:
Just look at the piece of trash you spilled up there. You calling me a hypocrite when there's no evidence of that in my comment really shows how ridiculous and false you are. You are a wolf in sheep clothing. You claim to be a true believer and you go about condemning people with different opinion to hell.
I thought u said good night
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by TradeAssistPOS: 4:04am On Aug 28, 2016
I hear when doctors require semen for artificial insemination they ask the man to masturbate.

If you look at sperm as a human fluid which it is anyway. It may just be as simple as releasing fluids that trigger hormonal reactions.

For example when a child doesn't suck breast as much as the breast produces, mother can extract the milk out of her body without the child necessarily sucking it out.

The fact that a knife can be used to kill doesn't make it bad.

I understand when God specifically instructs a person to desist from the act that one should adhere out of obedience cos it's just like a child being stopped from playing video games because of tendencies.

I stop my first son from playing video games outright because he doesn't even know when to stop but my daughter and second son treat video games like another toys so I hardly stop them.

Now there is a main issue here.

That u dont masturbate doesn't make you more righteous before God because the concept of righteousness is not what you do or don't do.It is a gift from God.

So I will conclude with this if you are truly a child of God.He doesn't leave us without a guide. The Holy Spirit instructs us on matters like this through our conscience so follow his guidance.

But if you're not Born Again you won't go to hell not because you masturbate. But you will go to hell because you reject God gift of righteousness through his son.Jesus Christ.

And if you as a born again he has instructed you not too strive against maturbation with every blood in your body for there is a reward.

The destruction comes to that one who has not confessed Jesus as Lord with or without maturbation.

If you want to give your heart to Christ.

Just say these words after me.

Lord Jesus I believe you came to the world to die for my sins, and on the third day to were raised up for my justification.

I confess you as the Lord of my life from this day on.

Thank God I am a child of God now. I have the life of God in my Spirit now.

Amen

You have a miracle of salvation to anyone who can mean those words.

God bless you. I will like to read your Testimonies.

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Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by safetyInspector(m): 4:37am On Aug 28, 2016
Even if everybody is doing it doesn't make it no sin. It is an unfortunate situation we found ourselves in this dying generation. My brother there is no way a single person can masturbate without having a picture in mind. The mind picture is what makes masturbation a sin. That of married couple thinking of each other is no sin, but lusting after someone other than your husband or wife is sin.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by tanning(m): 4:39am On Aug 28, 2016
My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless. Then u must an antichrist.
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by cheezy4real(m): 4:39am On Aug 28, 2016
Bro stop heresy. No one masturbates without lusting ist. Some images play in ur mind ist and you gratify ur lust Which is sin already. Am glad u agreed that looking at women lustfully is seen already. Bible said we flee youthful lust. I agree gave us sexual urge but should be used as he made legal provisions in marriage. It is normal u have urge like u are hungry for meat-pie but its never an option to break MR BIGGS show glass to take one instead u pay to get one. This same way God wants us to follow due process by getting married and get as many sex we want. Its a major tool in marriage weather for fellowship, reproduction, peaceful home. Pls desist from self opinion to avoid taking many to hell. God bless u
Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Toks2008(m): 4:49am On Aug 28, 2016
clitah:
@ Toks 2008,

Your write-up is a highly contradictory and your responses far from polite and I plead with you to have a re-think of your journey to heaven.A holy spirit filled ,heaven bound believer ought to be peaceful in his/her responses.

You seem to justify masturbation.

What if you get to heaven on the last day to discover that masturbation is a sin and that nothing impure enters there?

What will you do my brother/sister?

Why not burn with a little passion now (according to your write-up) than that of hell because the truth is certain.







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