Wingback:
Where are the gays svcking baillys dìck before?

I maintain my stance, Mourinho signing Bailliy was an unnecessary waste of money.

Keep quiet, bailly only found out yesterday the deficiencies of his partner. He can play the ball out of the defence but can he really defend. Dude was practically playing 5 and 6. Smalling will still make a better partner to this guy. We will see with games to come when and if they both get paired. Bailly is a beast and he showed his class in the second half. So keep quiet and stop talking like we lost 10-1

dopeJemi:


I love exposing ignorant niggas

Lol...and like leeches they come back to spew more ignorant nonsense. Anyway using ones free time to expose dolts whose only usefulness is to come here and drop rubbish is not bad. Enjoy

elampiro:
Funlord

If set plays and crossing from the wings are used as part of possession lost calculation, then Ozil and Silva would have the highest possession lost for their teams.

If you want to calculate possession lost, look at:

1. Dispossessed
2. Pass accuracy stat


Rooney had 80% pass accuracy which was the 3rd highest in the team, and 2nd among the players that ended the game. Only Valencia had higher pass accuracy among the players that finished the game.

Rooney had only 3 disposesion in the whole 90 minutes. He had zero unsuccessful touch. But Mkhitaryan had 3 dispossession and another 3 unsuccessful touch in just 45 minutes despite playing in the wing.

Elamps there is a reason we have a saying in politics called "damned lies and statistics"....those your stats are under the bridge stats!



Stop trying to use semantics to try and bring other non essential factors or players into this small point! We all watched the match, friends and foes alike!



HE LOST POSSESSION 23 TIMES YESTERDAY? That is a fact! If I even go into how many times he has lost possession this season then na cry go get you! I know you love rooney but don't be blinded by your love for him be objective! Sarah winterburn is a well known. Highly respected premier soccer analyst and editor, why na you we wan come dey listen to na?





You nor know rooney!

eph12:

If they put in their best they would make it work. They only need to take every match serious. This is one reason why I admire Pep teams. Football starts from the kick off. Not strolling around and waiting for nothing. When I was talking about style all play some of us were not getting me. I meant imposing style from the get go and not second half. That way we can win matches before half time therefore introducing fringe players and resting key players for the next match

you still need the right personnel to play this style.or whatever style the coach wants.
seeing the game now,
am happy Jose took the blame for the loss,because he cost us yesterday's game,
and I may have underestimated this city squad a little,taking nothing away from Pep,he coached his team well.
even the 2nd half you guys said was an improvement on our performance falls below what we should expect.

anyhow make my ninja,Depay see minutes for the Europa.

joeace2020:


Let's be real, there are not many teams in today's football that can play imposing style against a pep team from the get go. Look at in Spain barca could tap till forever while Madrid players kept fighting to keep up, collecting needless yellow cards n red cards, same in Germany with bayern n now he's turning this team to another tiki taka unit. Let's be honest the man can coach and tiki taka works anywhere. LVG tried it allbeit with average players and a too conservative style. The best anyone can do against his teams is come physical and play agressively. He's never liked his teams physical as is obvious from his transfers compared to ours. He likes smallish passes of the ball. The game yesterday needed physical guys as well as dribblers and martial and rashford are more physical than that annoying lingard and mikitaryan. The game plan was fine...the players on the pitch weren't. Did u notice he threw in fernadinho when he noticed how the match was tilting towards us. He was just lucky we started with the wrong people. In this league the most agressive team wins the league and Pep would learn that hard.

Wasn't talking about yesterday match. We haven't been imposing enough against other teams until the second half. Check our previous 3 matches. We need to learn to start a match on the front foot

joeace2020:


Lol...and like leeches they come back to spew more ignorant nonsense. Anyway using ones free time to expose dolts whose only usefulness is to come here and drop rubbish is not bad. Enjoy

You right, it's not The first time he's coming up with idiotic statements like that and it won't be the last, i'll always be here to correct his ignorance

Lmao.. You no know Ball and You no know Rooney.
Inasmuch as i like Rooney, he should never play behind Ibra again..
And to think he's the reason most of the guys are played out of their natural position.

dopeJemi:


Our first appearance in the first season was against?

You are the most ignorant niggaa on the board, answer the question I asked you

Mumu u are not even happy I dashed u Europa league for the first season, u are even proud to publicize the fact ur sorry ass club didn't make it to Europe in the 2014/2015 season, great club indeed

Upcoming fixtures. .

kokaneprodigy:

Their third appearance in three seasons, Europa is gradually becoming a natural habitat for scummies
No amount of money can redeem them and I won't be surprised if their Pogba finally dumps them for Real Madrid next season.

Third appearance in three seasons?? Aní sé u are irredeemably daft. U'll think am insulting u but am just stating mere facts.

U dont need to talk about another club's natural habitat when FAILURE and TROPHYLESSNESS is a natural phenomenon of that ur stupíd club

To be fair to Mourinho, he got some of his tactic spot on. For example, stifling David Silva's play because I don't want to think of what could have happened if Silva hadn't been man-marked by Fellaini, it would have be brutal. Even then, he still looked class and was several miles better than Pogba.

However, this allowed Debruyne a lot of space to operate because he remained unchecked apart from the few times he tussled with Felliani and despite Silva's play being stifled, he carved out lot of space for Debruyne to exploit unchecked. I don't know if Mourinho put Pogba on Debruyne but he failed to do that.

Our plan was to sit back, stifle their play and hit them on the counter but our play were so poor in the midfield because Fellaini could only concentrate on D. Silva while his partner, Pogba looked clueless and Rooney couldn't operate under City's pressure whenever he got the ball in the final third..

The shift to a 3-man midfield made us a lot compact in the middle and brought us closer to our attackers who were mostly isolated in the 1st half and had no option other than dropping deep which invited more pressure and lot of possession lost in the 1st half..

But our change in the 2nd half didn't last long because City regained their foothold in the middle once again by intensifying the pressure in the midfield with the addition Fernando to help out Silva and Fernandinho in their pressing game while pushing up Debruyne who contributed little defensive work in the midfield. This reduced the workload of Silva and gave him lot of freedom to move around to escape any man-marking and City looked strong once again..

Once we lost our foothold in the midfield again, we had no option than to resort to hoofing the ball into their box to force out error from Stones and Bravo in the last 25 minutes of the game...

All these point to one thing, the battle was lost in the midfield and it was due to a certain little magician, Silva in there while our own Pogba was ambling around looking clueless.

It also shows that Pep is a master tactician, miles better than Mourinho.. He was lucky to have find a kindred soul in Silva at City, even though he was the one that revamped Silva's game.

kokaneprodigy:

Mumu u are not even happy I dashed u Europa league for the first season, u are even proud to publicize the fact ur sorry ass club didn't make it to Europe in the 2014/2015 season, great club indeed

You must be a cretin and a very foolish troglodyte to spew such balderdash in the first place, i've told you to give your brain up for experiments cause it's never in use

You are known for saying the most ignorant shi.t up in here and also a known stark illiterate, please desist from being stoopid here, this is a no stupid zone

elampiro:


Plenty.

From Thursday we will have an opportunity of acessing more players. Smalling, Jones, Young, Darmian, Mensah, Schneiderlin, Mephis will have a chance to start.

You and Diademk07 should read the full editorial I dropped below. It reaffirmed my earlier opinion that Mourinho is wasting Pogba's ability playing him alongside Fellani in the DM position.


But the particular point I want you two to
note is the quoted part. When I typed yesterday that Rooney was occupying the position of Mhiki, Mata and Co, it looked like I was hating. It turns out I was not only right, but even Pogba is another victim of Rooney's must-play syndrome. Thank God say no be me write the article. Read. . . The article is talking about Pogba.

In that position - roughly the one Rooney is occupying for United for comparison’s sake - he was full of goals, he created chances and he could express himself with the ball at his feet.
That role is unavailable to him now. Rooney has it while Juan Mata and Mkhitaryan, if he gets his act together, are probably ahead of him in the queue. Mourinho fought hard to get Pogba but wants him as a central midfielder - a €110 million Nemanja Matic.

http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/14302/comment/2016/09/11/27391872/mourinho-role-not-letting-pogba-reach-his-potential

Like I said, how Mourinho handles Rooney's conundrum will determine if he'll be successful or not, or if he'll get sacked.

Lol @ you no know Rooney. Lwkmd.
Clowns full this thread.

Diademk07:
To be fair to Mourinho, he got some of his tactic spot on.

It also shows that Pep is a master tactician, miles better than Mourinho.. He was lucky to have find a kindred soul in Silva at City, even though he was the one that revamped Silva's game.

Silva has always been good though. About Pep being miles better is arguable.

Highlight of silva performance:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XAeVqwwrY

In comparism to Pogba




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy6F4_WnwxE&itct=CAwQpDAYAyITCIWJ2Krbh88CFYuDHAod7-sAATIHcmVsYXRlZEiLq8rW8I2i23Q%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=NL

Keep Note of the afro man, Felliani chasing D. Silva around yet he was still class both on the ball and off the ball with his pressing...

dopeJemi:


You must be a cretin and a very foolish troglodyte to spew such balderdash in the first place, i've told you to give your brain up for experiments cause it's never in use

You are known for saying the most ignorant shi.t up in here and also a known stark illiterate, please desist from being stoopid here, this is a no stupid zone

I can C the epic fail u call a club has frustrated the hell outta u. Sha don't commit suicide.

.... ..... When a defender wins man of the match more than twice in as many games.. You know you have a lot to do as a coach.....
.... Mourinho has a lot to do....... Man United are far from the finished product and I quake in fear in what a Liverpool will do to his team...Those guys are faster than Man City.....
....#Arsenalfan....

kokaneprodigy:

I can C the epic fail u call a club has frustrated the hell outta u. Sha don't commit suicide.

Mr Pot to Mr Kettle : "you are black"


As if Arsenal is better than Man. United.
It's a known fact that Assnal fans are the most frustrated fans in the Premier league top 6.

solomonbrown64:

.... ..... When a defender wins man of the match more than twice in as many games.. You know you have a lot to do as a coach.....
.... Mourinho has a lot to do....... Man United are far from the finished product and I quake in fear in what a Liverpool will do to his team...Those guys are faster than Man City.....
....#Arsenalfan....

we know we still have work to do. The coach knows that, so also do the players. And I believe we are working on that.

Funlordjnr:




Elamps there is a reason we have a saying in politics called "damned lies and statistics"....those your stats are under the bridge stats!



Stop trying to use semantics to try and bring other non essential factors or players into this small point! We all watched the match, friends and foes alike!



HE LOST POSSESSION 23 TIMES YESTERDAY? That is a fact! If I even go into how many times he has lost possession this season then na cry go get you! I know you love rooney but don't be blinded by your love for him be objective! Sarah winterburn is a well known. Highly respected premier soccer analyst and editor, why na you we wan come dey listen to na?





You nor know rooney!

Stop telling lies. I am looking at stats tight now. I will like to tell me how Rooney lost possession 23 times other than the crosses, free kicks and corners that didn't connect.

Rooney only misplaced 6 passes and was Dispossessed 3 times. He didn't attempt any dribble.



You no know ball.

eph12:

Silva has always been good though. About Pep being miles better is arguable.

Pep got the best out of him putting him in the Central midfield. That's exactly the place that suits him.

His movement, spatial awareness, one-two touch play, vision and technical skills makes his playmaking look effortless and the midfield his home unlike a certain Pogba who hogs the ball, lack spatial awareness, amble around and positionally less disciplined.

As for Pep, many could have looked clueless as soon as Mourinho ringed those changes in the second half but he countered it immediately with his own master class.

Diademk07:


Pep got the best out of him putting him in the Central midfield. That's exactly the place that suits him.

His movement, spatial awareness, one-two touch play, vision and technical skills makes his playmaking look effortless and the midfield his home unlike a certain Pogba who hogs the ball, lack spatial awareness, amble around and positionally less disciplined.

As for Pep, many could have looked clueless as soon as Mourinho ringed those changes in the second half but he countered it immediately with his own master class.

Bringing in someone to tighten the defence and/or midfield to protect a lead? Oh puhlease! That is what Mou is known for. Coaches do that all the time unless they have exhausted all their options.

sinizia:


You and Diademk07 should read the full editorial I dropped below. It reaffirmed my earlier opinion that Mourinho is wasting Pogba's ability playing him alongside Fellani in the DM position.


But the particular point I want you two to
note is the quoted part. When I typed yesterday that Rooney was occupying the position of Mhiki, Mata and Co, it looked like I was hating. It turns out I was not only right, but even Pogba is another victim of Rooney's must-play syndrome. Thank God say no be me write the article. Read. . . The article is talking about Pogba.


http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/14302/comment/2016/09/11/27391872/mourinho-role-not-letting-pogba-reach-his-potential

Like I said, how Mourinho handles Rooney's conundrum will determine if he'll be successful or not, or if he'll get sacked.

So Rooney is now the one preventing Pogba from playing number 10? When I said in the summer that Rooney was adapting well into a central midfielder, you people attacked me that we needed a world class central midfielder like Pogba. Now we have Pogba in central midfield, you want him in the number 10.

Pogba is first a CM before an AM. He even played DM for France.

Una too dey get sleepless nights over Rooney. If Rooney is on the bench, you people will still blame him for losing us games from the bench.


Ukwu!!!

sinizia:


You and Diademk07 should read the full editorial I dropped below. It reaffirmed my earlier opinion that Mourinho is wasting Pogba's ability playing him alongside Fellani in the DM position.


But the particular point I want you two to
note is the quoted part. When I typed yesterday that Rooney was occupying the position of Mhiki, Mata and Co, it looked like I was hating. It turns out I was not only right, but even Pogba is another victim of Rooney's must-play syndrome. Thank God say no be me write the article. Read. . . The article is talking about Pogba.


http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/14302/comment/2016/09/11/27391872/mourinho-role-not-letting-pogba-reach-his-potential

Like I said, how Mourinho handles Rooney's conundrum will determine if he'll be successful or not, or if he'll get sacked.

It was the other way round though..

Pogba cluelessness in the midfield and too much hugging of the ball stifled Rooney's performance.

Look at a certain D. Silva who constantly freed up Debruyne with his fluid passing move in spite of a certain Felliani chasing him around.. Silva's movement and positioning also got him a lot on the ball..

No doubt, Debruyne is miles better than Rooney in the same role but he wouldn't have looked as good if David Silva played like Pogba yesterday because Debryune is a player who needs a lot of space to operate, just like Rooney. The more reason why Pep said he's better suited to the wing which is likely going to happen once Gundogan becomes fit.

Don't forget Pogba still looked clueless in the midfield after Rooney was shifted to the wing in the second half.

eph12:

Bringing in someone to tighten the defence and/or midfield to protect a lead? Oh puhlease! That is what Mou is known for. Coaches do that all the time unless they have exhausted all their options.

Debruyne isn't a CM but a no 10 to begin with.. The fact that he played him there shows that Pep is no negative coach..

However, Silva suffered a lot from this because he had to be positionally disciplined and offer more defensively until Fernando came on to replace Fernandinho in the holding role while Fernandinho got pushed up to play alongside Silva and this helped to reduce the workload of Silva .

After our first 15-20mins pressure in the second half., City still settled back to look as good as they were in first half. They could have even scored more in the second half with the likes of Debruyne, Silva etc wasting some good chances

Hence, I disagree that they were defending a lead.

sinizia:


You and Diademk07 should read the full editorial I dropped below. It reaffirmed my earlier opinion that Mourinho is wasting Pogba's ability playing him alongside Fellani in the DM position.


But the particular point I want you two to
note is the quoted part. When I typed yesterday that Rooney was occupying the position of Mhiki, Mata and Co, it looked like I was hating. It turns out I was not only right, but even Pogba is another victim of Rooney's must-play syndrome. Thank God say no be me write the article. Read. . . The article is talking about Pogba.


http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/14302/comment/2016/09/11/27391872/mourinho-role-not-letting-pogba-reach-his-potential

Like I said, how Mourinho handles Rooney's conundrum will determine if he'll be successful or not, or if he'll get sacked.

am asking you all This question


can't pogba play like yaya toure in his prime?

Only a madman, a stark madman would say Rooney had a good performance yesterday. Only a man sick in the head.

SIRcumalot:

am asking you all This question


can't pogba play like yaya toure in his prime?

seems dis pogba of a guy isn't that good after all, really disappointed with his performance yesterday, hope he proves me wrong though.

Diademk07:


Debruyne isn't a CM but a no 10 to begin with.. The fact that he played him there shows that Pep is no negative coach..

However, Silva suffered a lot from this because he had to be positionally disciplined and offer more defensively until Fernando came on to replace Fernandinho in the holding role while Fernandinho got pushed up to play alongside Silva and this helped to reduce the workload of Silva .

After our first 15-20mins pressure in the second half., City still settled back to look as good as they were in first half. They could have even scored more in the second half with the likes of Debruyne, Silva etc wasting some good chances

Hence, I disagree that they were defending a lead.

City were very disciplined and that was a major plus for them. United were frustrated already after that 15-20 minutes. Most players were playing far from our goal in search of an equaliser and were required to track back. That could be exhausting. See Pep is a brilliant coach I mentioned that already. Same is Jose. I am not going to continue this back and forth with you. I don't need you to agree with me that they are both good.

SIRcumalot:

am asking you all This question


can't pogba play like yaya toure in his prime?

Who did Yaya play like? Who?

weedtaker:
seems dis pogba of a guy isn't that good after all, really disappointed with his performance yesterday, hope he proves me wrong though.

his alright.
way better than what we saw yesterday.