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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:40am On Sep 15, 2016
tempem:


Haha!! Jokes all around...

Jehovah's witnesses teach what's not in the Bible?! shocked

Was just thinking how you do observe your sabbath day. cheesy

Tell me jare. tongue

The Sabbath day is holy to GOD. It is a day of worship.

I avoid all secular work on that day, just to commune with my Maker and Redeemer, according to Exod. 20:8-11. I go to church and fellowship with the Brethren.

It's a very sweet experience, really.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jessicha(f): 8:45am On Sep 15, 2016
goodnews201668:

Where have you been my sister?
All is well bro , how you doing ?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:50am On Sep 15, 2016
felvick:
Pls i have a question for everyone here: Human beings are made up or consists of what? I think we are made up of a body, soul and spirit. What do you guys think?

Hello friend!

Man is a soul or a living being made up of a body and the breath of life. (Gen. 2:7)

Note however that the words "soul" and "spirit" are used to mean things other than they primarily connote in the Bible.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 8:58am On Sep 15, 2016
indigene:

Only the blood of Jesus saves life.
Surgeon General agreed that blood is Poison. (Receive at your own risk)
The Bible clearly directed through God's holy spirit stated that, Christians should abstain from blood. Acts 15 vss 29
. For example if your physician strongly adviced that you should abstain from alcohol, and you call a nurse to transfuse a tot of brandy through your vein will you admit that you're respecting the order or authority of your physician?
It is still a strong medical code, that a patient has right to refuse or reject any medical treatment he or she considered questionable and faulted with risk.
I am proud of Jehovah witnesses who pioneered bloodless surgery, accepted in all advanced countries medical facilities
Any surgeon who demands blood is medically antiquity
It is medically proven that simple blood expanders like what is known as drip, or EPO is all that is needed to increase blood volume, same as non matured coconut water.
It Not only Jehovah's witnesses that are refusing blood transfusion.
Human Blood is Poison.
It's on record that what impacted negatively to Pope John Paul (ie 1 or 11) who was shot by Mehmet Agca was as a result of blood he received, the complications slowly retarded his health, which lead to his death.
There several scientists, world renowned physicians who are Jehovah's witnesses, many Nigerian non Jehovah witnesses doctors had received quality training on bloodless surgery in their Nigeria branch office in Igieduma Edo state

you lied blood was transfused in me as far back as '97 I'm not dead and I'm sound. you guys are maniac. I couldn't date a girl I love because of you idiotic doctrine.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 8:59am On Sep 15, 2016
goody1shoe73:
How can the lifeless body of his son be in heaven when He is a spirit?

You should have asked your organization (that believed ALL SPIRIT BEINGS including JEHOVAH have a BODY) that question not me.

A spirit do not possess our type of body.

But your organization said spirit beings possess BODY( NOTE: I'm not saying their body is like ours), why are you contradicting your organization

His LIFE was simply transferred to the womb of the virgin Mary,and he came to be born as a human.

And this LIFE was removed from a body, isn't it Is the LIFE another personality of the Son? Because the Bible says God sent His Son not LIFE. The Son is a person and LIFE is just force according to JWs.

Yes, he had prehuman existence but not dual existence.

Now, you're coming! In the Son prehumen existence, is the Son a person or inanimate like LIFE?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 9:05am On Sep 15, 2016
goody1shoe73:
Jehovah transferred the life of His son Jesus to the womb of Mary by the operation of His Holy Spirit or Active FORCE

And I asked, where is the body where the LIFE was removed or the TRANSFERED LIFE is another personality of the Son

You people keep saying TRANSFERED LIFE, isn't the LIFE housed by a body or does this LIFE is the whole nature in which the Son exist
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by SOPIGO: 9:16am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:
JMAN05,

"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" Isa. 45:5

"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isa. 43:11.

Who is speaking in these two verses? GOD The Father or Jesus Christ?

Cc: BIBLESPEAKS, truthislight et al.

Pls, take ur time to read d account of 1 Corinth 15: 27,28For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 9:17am On Sep 15, 2016
truthislight:
If The Bible teaches torment in hell fire, then it would not have been a threat.

Preaching what the Bible says is teaching the Truth.

Now it's because Bible doesn't teach not that a loving God can't throw His son into fire as you people always say. Hypocrite!

I don't need to argue with you whether Bible teaches Hell fire because I know you'll never see it in corrupt NWT which is your God. But I'm only want to point out how irrational it is to accuse those who believe according the scripture that Hell fire exists as a wickedness to portrait a LOVING God whereas this same LOVING God who does not wicked can destroy over 6Billions people.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Funkybabee(f): 9:31am On Sep 15, 2016
JMAN05:


1. Read go this: http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102002085

2. The wages of sin is death. ROM 6:23, Adam returned to the grave after death. Gen 3:19. People translate Gehenna (the Greek word that appeared in the original) as hell fire. This is contrary to other parts of the scriptures.


so be laughing about how you are twisting answer in other to look true in the eyes of others,you too know in your heart that what you are referring is not contradict in what he asked, you said there is no hell fire so are you now trying to say Revelation Bible is rubbish when it's said anybody that we didn't find his name in the book of life we will put him into the lake of fire(hell fire) come and try to convince me with these words please
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Anas09: 9:34am On Sep 15, 2016
s4short:


Please from the creation of man God's law has been present though it wasn't in written form but was passed from generation to generation, it was not merely conscience acting in those scenarios because if there was no law there wouldn't have been sin because sin is transgression of God's law and people won't have received punishments for their sins. Also Abraham and lot's lineage can be traced back to Noah which explains why they knew more abi were the inhabitants of sodom and Gomorrah devoid of conscience?
Thats my point. The law was written in their heaets. Conscience acted as an Umpire in man.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by tempem: 9:34am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:


The Sabbath day is holy to GOD. It is a day of worship.

I avoid all secular work on that day, just to commune with my Maker and Redeemer, according to Exod. 20:8-11. I go to church and fellowship with the Brethren.

It's a very sweet experience, really.
I knew it was a joke..


Verse 10 says: "But the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do *any work*, you nor your son nor your daughter, your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your alien resident who is inside your gates."
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:36am On Sep 15, 2016
SOPIGO:


Pls, take ur time to read d account of 1 Corinth 15: 27,28For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone

Bro, who was speaking in the two verses you quoted?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:46am On Sep 15, 2016
When you read some of the things that JW teach.

They even teach that there is a vacant body in Heaven and that GOD just took the LIFE FORCE and put it into Mary.

Please, from where did they these fairytales? From the Bible? NO!

Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:49am On Sep 15, 2016
tempem:

I knew it was a joke..


Verse 10 says: "But the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do *any work*, you nor your son nor your daughter, your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your alien resident who is inside your gates."


That does not mean you wouldn't render help to a soul in need of it on the Sabbath day; things like saving a life. Jesus healed and did good to people on the Sabbath

However, GOD forbids secular labour/working for money on the Sabbath day.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 9:58am On Sep 15, 2016
2cor4:3-6:the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the christ who is the image of God might not shine through. These unbelievers are clearly not students of the bible. Also satan the devil is blocking their minds so as not to accept the truth. Satan knows he has a short period of time so he wants many people to be destroyed alongside him. Guys be careful. My fellow brothers no need wasting time here. Many honesthearted ones are out there thirsting for the truth. Please leave these ones.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 10:01am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:
When you read some of the things that JW teach.

They even teach that there is a vacant body in Heaven and that GOD just took the LIFE FORCE and put it into Mary.

Please, from where did they these fairytales? From the Bible? NO!
guy you get problems o where did you get your twisted and crooked information from. Clearly not from my brothers.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by goodnewscliff(m): 10:06am On Sep 15, 2016
Mrbllymer:

Read this with an open mind

1. Matthew 3:16

“After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him.”

2. Matthew 12:28

“But if I [Jesus] cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”

3. Matthew 28:19

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit . . .”

4. Luke 3:22

“And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”

5. John 14:26

1. Matthew 3:16

“After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him.”

2. Matthew 12:28

“But if I [Jesus] cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”

3. Matthew 28:19

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit . . .”

4. Luke 3:22

“And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”

5. John 14:26

“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My [Jesus’] name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”

6. John 15:26

“When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”

7. Acts 1:4

“Gathering them together, He [Jesus] commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me . . .”

8. Acts 2:33

“Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He [Jesus] has poured forth this which you both see and hear.”

9. Acts 10:38

“You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.”

10. Romans 1:4

“Who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord . . .”

11. Romans 8:9

“However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”

12. 1 Corinthians 6:11

Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

13. 2 Corinthians 13:14

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

14. Galatians 4:6

Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

15. Ephesians 1:17

That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.

16. Ephesians 2:18

For through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.

17. Ephesians 2:22

In whom [Jesus] you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

18. Titus 3:6

Whom [the Holy Spirit] He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior.

19. Hebrews 9:14

How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

20. 1 Peter 1:2

According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: may grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
u jst quoting without understanding whats clearly stated....let me hit u with this..... The Bible’s answer
The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. (Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35 ) God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will.— Psalm 104:30; 139:7 .
In the Bible, the word “spirit” is translated from the Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek word pneuʹma. Most often, those words refer to God’s active force, or holy spirit. (Genesis 1:2 ) However, the Bible also uses those words in other senses:
Breath.— Habakkuk 2:19; Revelation 13:15 .
Wind.— Genesis 8:1; John 3:8 .
The vital, or animating, force in living creatures.— Job 34:14, 15 .
A person’s disposition or attitude.—
Numbers 14:24 .
Spirit persons, including God and the angels.— 1 Kings 22:21; John 4:24 .
These meanings all share the sense of something invisible to humans that produces visible effects. Similarly, the spirit of God, “like the wind, is invisible, immaterial and powerful.”— An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W. E. Vine.
The Bible also refers to God’s holy spirit as his “hands” or “fingers.” (Psalm 8:3; 19:1; Luke 11:20 ; compare Matthew 12:28 .) Just as a craftsman uses his hands and fingers to do his work, God has used his spirit to produce such results as the following:
The universe.— Psalm 33:6; Isaiah 66:
1, 2 .
The Bible.— 2 Peter 1:20, 21 .
The miracles performed by his ancient servants and their zealous preaching.—
Luke 4:18; Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 12:
4-11 .
The fine qualities displayed by people who obey him.— Galatians 5:22, 23 .
The holy spirit is not a person
By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. (Exodus 15:
8, 10 ) A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. ( Luke 11:13 ) The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.— Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6 .
The Bible gives the names of Jehovah God and of his Son, Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. (Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31 ) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55 ) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision.
Misconceptions about the holy spirit
Misconception: The “Holy Ghost,” or holy spirit, is a person and is part of the Trinity , as stated at 1 John 5:7, 8 in the King James version of the Bible.
Fact: The King James version of the Bible includes at 1 John 5:7, 8 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” However, researchers have found that those words were not written by the apostle John and so do not belong in the Bible. Professor Bruce M. Metzger wrote: “That these words are spurious and have no right to stand in the New Testament is certain.”— A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament.
Misconception: The Bible personifies the holy spirit, and this proves that it is a person.
Fact: The Scriptures do at times personify the holy spirit, but this does not prove that the holy spirit is a person. The Bible also personifies wisdom, death, and sin. (Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21 ) For example, wisdom is said to have “works” and “children,” and sin is depicted as seducing, killing, and working out covetousness.— Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:
35; Romans 7:8, 11 .
Similarly, when the apostle John quoted Jesus, he personified the holy spirit as a “helper” (paraclete) that would give evidence, guide, speak, hear, declare, glorify, and receive. He used masculine personal pronouns such as “he” or “him” when referring to that “helper.” (John 16:
7-15 ) However, he did so because the Greek word for “helper” (pa·raʹkle·tos ) is a masculine noun and requires a masculine pronoun according to the rules of Greek grammar. When John referred to the holy spirit using the neuter noun pneuʹma, he used the genderless pronoun “it.”— John 14:16, 17 .
Misconception: Baptism in the name of the holy spirit proves that it is a person.
Fact: The Bible sometimes uses “name” to stand for power or authority. (Deuteronomy 18:5, 19-22; Esther 8:10 ) This is similar to its use in the English expression “in the name of the law,” which does not mean that the law is a person. A person who is baptized “in the name of ” the holy spirit recognizes the power and role of the holy spirit in accomplishing God’s will.— Matthew 28:19 .
Misconception: Jesus’ apostles and other early disciples believed that the holy spirit was a person.
Fact: The Bible does not say that, nor does history. The Encyclopædia Britannica
states: “The definition that the Holy Spirit was a distinct divine Person . . . came at the Council of Constantinople in ad 381.” This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:08am On Sep 15, 2016
JW's deny Jesus Christ, just as the Bible predicted.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." 2 Pet. 2:1

They say Jesus has no power to do anything. They say He is not GOD. They reduce the Holy Spirit to a force.

Is this not satanic?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by goodnewscliff(m): 10:10am On Sep 15, 2016
rottennaija:


So I heard. But I came to one conclusion... Which is, that those we have been claiming not to know the Bible, that they have been preaching falsehood...thqt they have been more right on so many issues than us. I repeat, I came to discover that they have been more right in their doctrines than us.

True! They do not quote vine expository dictionary or other archaic books to support their point, but they have been more right than us. I also came to realise why watchtower hardly quote modern scholars or scientists. Rather, they will quote those that have died 100s of yes ago
ehhhennnn....seriously were are all these coming from? lol
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by goodnewscliff(m): 10:11am On Sep 15, 2016
WinningSun:


you lied blood was transfused in me as far back as '97 I'm not dead and I'm sound. you guys are maniac. I couldn't date a girl I love because of you idiotic doctrine.
am sorry dude....God word first B4 relationships.....lol....

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 10:12am On Sep 15, 2016
even these unbelievers here know it that we are the true religion. The only one that follows Biblical injunctions. They don't just want to admit it. But when false religion (babylon the great) is destroyed they would be forced to admit it that we are truely God's people. Remember it was only at the end of Jesus earthly life that people finally admitted that he was truely the son of God.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:13am On Sep 15, 2016
goodnewscliff,

The Bible says we should not grieve the Holy Spirit by which we are sealed. Eph. 4:30

Can anything other than a person be grieved?

Can a force be grieved?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by SOPIGO: 10:14am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Bro, who was speaking in the two verses you quoted?
The writer(Apostle Paul) of that Account quoted Ps 8:6 'You gave him dominion over the works of your hands; You have put everything under his feet'.
Or do u think of otherwise?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 10:15am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:
JW's deny Jesus Christ, just as the Bible predicted.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." 2 Pet. 2:1

They say Jesus has no power to do anything. They say He is not GOD. They reduce the Holy Spirit to a force.

Is this not satanic?
guy you are obviously confused and misguided. Who told you that we deny Jesus Christ. The christendom today are the ones referred to in the scripture you quoted. False teachings such as immortality of the soul, trinity etc.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by goodnewscliff(m): 10:16am On Sep 15, 2016
Emusan:


And I asked, where is the body where the LIFE was removed or the TRANSFERED LIFE is another personality of the Son

You people keep saying TRANSFERED LIFE, isn't the LIFE housed by a body or does this LIFE is the whole nature in which the Son exist
wow...u funny...u think jesus is a human? spiritual form of life is way different from ours...theres nothing God cant do?? how do u xplain it jesus who was leaving in heaven jumped into mary womb?? how would u xplain it??were u d one who slept with mary to concieve jesus....maybe what would u say abt dis??
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:18am On Sep 15, 2016
SOPIGO:
The writer(Apostle Paul) of that Account quoted Ps 8:6 'You gave him dominion over the works of your hands; You have put everything under his feet'.
Or do u think of otherwise?

Well, Psa. 8:6 is talking about man.

I only asked you to tell me Who was talking in Isa 43:11 and Isa 45:5.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 10:20am On Sep 15, 2016
These unbelievers here are clearly misguided by satan the devil. Jesus was a spirit creature in heaven before coming down to this earth. He was alongside his father as a master worker. That is he helped in creation. We all have seen the atrocities commited by babylon the great(christendom). They will soon be completely humiliated and destroyed.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:22am On Sep 15, 2016
dave1614:
guy you are obviously confused and misguided. Who told you that we deny Jesus Christ. The christendom today are the ones referred to in the scripture you quoted. False teachings such as immortality of the soul, trinity etc.

We know that a soul is not immortal.

Prove from the Scriptures that there is no three-in-one GOD.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by drewxx88(m): 10:22am On Sep 15, 2016
JMAN05:


National anthem is a religious song to the nation just like Nebuchadnezzar's song to his image. It is idolatry.
you are so funny ... The text your quoting or drawing reference from is old testament ,while Jesus came and nearly abolished all that and even says give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar so how can a national anthem be idolatry ,even the Israelis don't joke with their national anthem and that's the birthplace of Christianity...
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dave1614: 10:23am On Sep 15, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Well, Psa. 8:6 is talking about man.

I only asked you to tell me Who was talking in Isa 43:11 and Isa 45:5.
guy what are you even saying. What is your point? We all clearly know that this place refers to Jehovah the almighty.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:24am On Sep 15, 2016
dave1614:
These unbelievers here are clearly misguided by satan the devil. Jesus was a spirit creature in heaven before coming down to this earth. He was alongside his father as a master worker. That is he helped in creation. We all have seen the atrocities commited by babylon the great(christendom). They will soon be completely humiliated and destroyed.

So Jesus is only a worker in Heaven? sad

The Great GOD of the whole Universe has been reduced to a worker?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 10:25am On Sep 15, 2016

The Holy Ghost Is Deity


The JW's believe that the Holy Ghost is only "God's active force." They deny the scriptural teaching that the Holy Ghost is a Member of the Holy Trinity:

"The Scriptures themselves unite to show that God's holy spirit is not a person but is God's active force by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will"
(Aid to Bible Understanding, pg. 1543).

"The Holy Spirit is the invisible active force of Almighty God that moves his servants to do his will" (Let God Be True, pg. 108).

Not only do the JW's deny the DEITY of the Holy Spirit, they even deny that He is a person. So, in this sense, Satan has been exalted ABOVE the Holy Ghost by the JW's! The reason given by the JW's for the personality of Satan is that:

". . . the Bible calls Satan a manslayer, a liar, a father (in a spiritual sense) and a ruler. (John 8:44, 14:30) Only an intelligent person could fit all those descriptions." (See "Awake!", December 8, 1973)

We agree, but how can any honest person say that and then DENY the personality of the Holy Ghost? The Holy Ghost ALSO has attributes that only a PERSON can have. For example:

(1) Only a person could SPEAK, which the Holy Spirit does (Acts 2:11; 13:2; Rev. 2:7).

(2) Only a person could TEACH and COMFORT (Jhn. 16:7, 13).

(3) Only a person could have a MIND (Rom. 8:27).

(4) Only a person could possess the POWER that the Holy Spirit possesses (Rom. 15:19).

(5) Only a person could be INSULTED and GRIEVED (Heb. 10:29; Eph. 4:30).

So the Holy Ghost certainly IS a Person, but more than that, He is GOD, the Third Member of the Holy Trinity. There are several scriptural proofs for the Deity of the Holy Ghost:

(1) In Acts 15:3 Peter accuses Ananias of lying to the Holy Ghost, and then in verse four Peter tells him that he had lied unto GOD. The Holy Ghost is God.

(2) The Holy Ghost says in Acts 13:2, "Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them." GOD is the one who calls men to do His work (Rom. 8:28; Gal. 1:6; 1 Ths. 2:12; 4:7; 2 Ths. 2:13-14); so, the Holy Ghost is God.

(3) Only God could perform all the great wonders that the Holy Ghost performs (Psa. 104:30; Jhn. 14:16, 26; 16:8-14; Job 33:4; 1 Cor. 6:11; Eph. 1:13; 4:30).

(4) The Holy Ghost is God because blasphemy against Him shall not be forgiven (Mat. 12:31).

(5) The Holy Ghost is God because He is ETERNAL (Heb. 9:14).

(6) The Holy Ghost is God because He is OMNIPRESENT (Psa. 139:7-cool.

(7) The Holy Ghost is God because He has the power to give life (John 3:6; 6:63).

(9) The Scriptures are God's word, and 2 Peter 1:21 says that the Holy Ghost INSPIRED the Scriptures. Therefore the Holy Ghost is God.

The Bible clearly reveals to us that the Holy Ghost is a Member of the Holy Trinity. To deny this truth is to openly deny God's word.

The Trinity doctrine is a BIBLE doctrine. It is true that Satan has counterfeited the Trinity doctrine for many centuries in many pagan religions, but that doesn't change the truth. God's word declares that He is a Trinity, and it is our responsibility to BELIEVE it.



Did Jesus Christ Rise Physically From the Dead?

According to the JW's, He did not. The Bible speaks of a literal and physical resurrection, but the Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus only rose from the grave spiritually. Their literature speaks for itself:

". . . So the King Christ Jesus was put to death in the flesh and was resurrected an invisible spirit creature." (Let God Be True, pg. 138)

"Therefore the bodies in which Jesus manifested himself to his disciples after his return to life were not the body in which he was nailed to a tree. They were merely materialized for the occasion, resembling on one or two occasions the body in which he died..." (The Kingdom Is At Hand, pg. 259)

"Our Lord's human body . . . did not decay or corrupt . . . whether it was dissolved into gasses or whether it is still preserved somewhere . . . no one knows." (Studies In The Scriptures, Vol. 2, pg. 129)

According to the words of Jesus Christ Himself, He is NOT merely a spirit being. He is a literal and physical risen Savior. In Luke chapter twenty-four, beginning at verse thirty-six, the disciples see the risen Christ and they supposed they had seen a spirit (vs. 37); but Jesus cleared the matter up for everyone when He said, ". . . Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." (Luk. 24:38-39)

He then SHOWED them His hands and feet, and they believed. What did they believe? They believed that He was a literal and physical being in a literal and physical body.

When Jesus appeared to Thomas He said, ". . . Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing." (Jhn. 20:27) The risen Christ had the crucifixion scars in His body to PROVE that He had been physically resurrected from the dead.

If Jesus didn't rise physically then He lied in John 2:18-22 when He said that His "body" would rise in three days. He didn't say His spirit would rise. He said that His BODY would rise. When He arose His disciples actually REMEMBERED this prophecy and believed. Too bad the JW's can't do the same.

The JW's claim that Jesus appeared in different bodies after His so-called "spiritual resurrection." Their "proof" for this is the fact that the Emmaus disciples didn't recognize Him in His resurrection body, so it couldn't have been the same body. That's nonsense. Luke 24:16 tells us why they didn't recognize Him. It had nothing to do with a spiritual body. The problem was their EYESIGHT: "But their eyes were holden that they should not know him."

The bodily resurrection of Christ is a fundamental Bible doctrine. The salvation of a person's soul rests upon this doctrine, because if Jesus didn't physically rise from the dead AS HE SAID HE WOULD, then we're all lost and going to Hell according to 1 Corinthians 15:12-19 (JW's included).



Will There Be A Literal and Physical Second Coming?

If the Lord Jesus Christ was resurrected literally and physically from the dead, and if He appeared physically to His disciples, then His Second Coming must also be literal and physical.

Acts 1:11 tells us that Jesus will return "in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." Jesus ascended into Heaven literally, physically, and visibly, so He will return "in like manner."

The JW's deny this. They insist that the Second Coming of Christ will be SPIRITUAL, rather than literal and physical:

"Christ Jesus comes, not again as a human, but as a glorious spirit person." (Let God Be True, pg. 196)

"Since no earthly men have ever seen or can see the Father, they will be unable to see the glorified Son." (Let God Be True, pg. 197)

"It is a settled Scriptural truth, therefore, that human eyes will not see him at his second coming, neither will he come in a fleshy body." (The Truth Shall Make You Free, pg. 295)



The word of God says otherwise. Paul says in Titus 2:13 that we should be LOOKING for that blessed hope and the glorious APPEARING of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ. If the JW's are right in saying that we will not be able to see Christ, then why did Paul tell us to be LOOKING for His APPEARING?

The New World Translation has very conveniently removed the word "appearing" from Titus 2:13 and replaced it with "manifestation." The same has also been done in 1 Timothy 6:14, 2 Timothy 1:10, and 2 Timothy 4:8. (You can make the Bible teach ANYTHING if you just CHANGE THE WORDS!)

Now we know that the Second Coming of Christ will NOT be a spiritual and invisible return. Revelation 1:7 says, "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." In Matthew 24:30, Jesus Himself says, "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Zechariah 14:4 says, "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south." The literal and physical feet of Luke 24:39 will literally STAND upon the literal, physical, and very visible mount of Olives. That's perfectly clear to anyone with reading ability.

There's nothing spiritual or invisible about the Second Coming of Christ. The "clouds" will be literal (Rev. 1:7), as will the "fire" (2 Ths. 1:cool, the "saints" (1 Ths. 3:13), the "mountains and rocks" (Rev. 6:16), and, of course, the thousand-year reign (Rev. 20:1-7). A "spiritual" or "invisible" Second Coming is totally foreign to the written revelation of God.

Now, it is also noteworthy to point out that the JW's have quite a record when it comes to DATING the Second Coming. Listed below are five separate instances where the JW's have predicted the Second Coming and missed:

(1) In 1897, a book titled "The Battle of Armageddon" stated on page seventy-five that Jesus' Second Coming had ALREADY HAPPENED INVISIBLY in the year 1874, and the Watchtower publication re-stated this in the September 15th issue of 1922 and also in the January 1st issue of 1924.

(2) On January 15th, 1892, the Watchtower claimed that Armageddon began in 1874 and would end in 1914. This became quite an embarrassment for the JW's because 1914 was the beginning of World War I!

(3) The book Millions Now Living Will Never Die claimed that the year 1925 would actually bring about the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old. Page eighty-nine of this book claimed that "the earthly phase of the kingdom shall be recognized." However, when the January 1, 1925, issue of the Watchtower was published, it said, "This may be accomplished. It may not be."

(4) The December Watchtower for 1941 claimed that World War II would turn America and England into dictatorships, that the end of Nazi rule would mark the end of demon rule, and that God would rule when the Nazis were defeated.

(5) In 1942, the JW's were still talking about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob returning "any day now!" (Consolation, May 27, 1942, Pg. 13)

So the Watchtower Society will continue right along with it's foolish date setting--keeping it's members in constant fear and confusion. It is true that the Bible gives us many definite signs which indicate the Lord's return is getting very near, but no one knows the day nor the hour (Mat. 24:36).



Is Hell A Literal Fiery Place?

The JW's have traditionally believed and taught that there is no eternal punishment for the wicked:

". . . the Bible hell is mankind's common grave..." (Let God Be True, pg. 92. Page ninety-eight of this book refers to the doctrine of Hell as a "God defaming doctrine."wink

"The doctrine of a burning hell where the wicked are tortured eternally after death cannot be true . . . ." (Let God Be True, pg. 99)

We call it to the reader's attention that it was none other than the Lord Jesus Christ who first used the term "hell fire" (Mat. 5:22), and it was Jesus Christ who said in Matthew 25:41, ". . . Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." When the JW's attack the Hell doctrine they are attacking the very words of Christ.

A JW believes that Hell is only the grave that everyone goes to at death. He believes that the saved ones in the graves will be given eternal life on earth after the White Throne Judgment of Revelation 20:11-15, while the unsaved in the graves will be annihilated once and for all in the Lake of Fire. JW's refuse to believe that God will punish the wicked forever in the Lake of Fire. Of course, the Scriptures say something entirely different:

(1) There is no FIRE in the grave, but there certainly is fire in the "hell" of the Bible (Luk. 16:23; Deu. 32:22; Mat. 5:22; 18:9; Jas. 3:6).

(2) No one PRAYS from the grave, but they certainly do in Hell (Luk. 16:24; Jon. 2:2).

(3) Hell was originally made for the Devil and his angels (Mat. 25:41), but the grave was not.

(4) A Christian's SOUL does not go to the grave at death (Phi. 1:21-23; 2 Cor. 5:1-10; 1 Ths. 5:10). Only the BODY goes to the grave. An unsaved man's body also goes to the grave at death, but his SOUL goes to a place of TORMENT and FLAMES (Luk. 16:22-23).

(5) The grave cannot possibly be Hell because Jesus said it would be better to enter into life (eternal life) without a hand, a foot, or an eye, than to go to Hell (Mat. 18:8-9). How could it be "better" if Hell is only the grave where there is no suffering at all? According to Jesus Christ, Hell is a lot WORSE than losing a hand, a foot, or an eye forever.

(6) Annihilation cannot be true because the Bible uses such terms as "shame and everlasting contempt" (Dan. 12:2) and "torment . . . forever" (Rev. 14:11). Shame and torment are sufferings that are experienced by a LIVING BEING, not an annihilated corpse.

God is an ETERNAL Being; therefore, an eternal payment is required for sin (Mar. 9:44-48; Isa. 66:22-23). You can have a FAIR TRIAL, or you can have a FREE PARDON. In a fair trial before God, you will be eternally damned to Hell because you are a sinner against a Holy God. God will have no choice but to sentence you to Hell forever.

If you are wise you will receive God's FREE PARDON. Jesus Christ has ALREADY paid for your sins, but you must RECEIVE Him as Savior. John 1:12 says, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

Friend, have you ever turned from your sins and received the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior? The Bible says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (Jhn. 3:16)

Many have the idea that our good works can save us and get us into Heaven, but the Bible says this isn't so:

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" (Rom. 3:10)

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Rom. 3:23)

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)

We have no really "good" works, because we're all SINNERS by nature. We were born into this world as sinners (Psa. 51:5), and this is why Jesus said we must be "born again" (Jhn. 3:3).

This new birth is given to us freely, and was made possible when Christ died and shed His blood at Calvary for our sins. By receiving Jesus Christ as your Savior, trusting Him alone to save you, you can be born again. You can have eternal life TODAY by faith in Jesus Christ. Romans 10:13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:9-10 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Friend, why not turn from your sins right now and call upon the Lord to save your soul? Receive Jesus Christ as your Savior and serve Him faithfully until He returns.

If you've received Christ as your Savior, then we urge you to follow the Lord in baptism, and we also advise you to find a good Bible-believing church and join it. Don't allow such false teachers as the Jehovah's Witnesses to lead you astray!

If we can assist you in any way, please contact us. If you need more information about salvation, please write and ask for a copy of Understanding God's Salvation Plan.

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