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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:16pm On Sep 15, 2016
tbaba1234:


Adepoju, Amokachi, Okechukwu, Iroha were introduced in 1990.

We also had key players like Elaho that didn't make the team.

Yes, I highlighted that in one of my earlier posts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:19pm On Sep 15, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Best players, not stability. A stable team of wack players will produce wack results. A team made of the best players, even though they are not long together will perform wonders.

Are the current pool of Super Eagles whack players?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:24pm On Sep 15, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


We are not far from each other.

What I am saying is, as long as we keep searching for the best in each position, we will have a steady pool of the best.

Inviting Adi to camp for instance does not make him a starter or make the team unsteady. If Adi fails in camp, the team is still steady. The pool is still steady and we know this pool is the best.

If he does better, someone has to drop for Adi and we know we have the best.

That was what happened and we maintained a steady pool of the best players. We were one of the best team in the world.

It went bad when Aiyegbeni missed four clean chances in a match and he was sure of his next starting place. While Martins was on bench. Until the famous Aiyegbeni miss before it dawned on Nigerians that he was passed it.

I thought you were against using the word "steady".

My point remains clear. We have a pool of 14-15 regulars and 2-3 new additions (if need be)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:50pm On Sep 15, 2016
chrisooblog:
it was yekini go look it up



http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.coupe.jamaique.nigeria.29016.en.html

We are both correct, Yekini and Siasia scored. Well, at that time, Siasia was better but we went with the weaker choice and paid for it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:51pm On Sep 15, 2016
Icon4s:


I thought you were against using the word "steady".

My point remains clear. We have a pool of 14-15 regulars and 2-3 new additions (if need be)

I was showing you how we are not far from our points but maintained that we need to keep searching for the best talents. That is how we find a steady team. Not having a steady team and shutting out the best.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:52pm On Sep 15, 2016
Icon4s:


I thought you were against using the word "steady".

My point remains clear. We have a pool of 14-15 regulars and 2-3 new additions (if need be)

The need be is because a better talent propped up. No guaranteed shirt if there is a better player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
Icon4s:


Are the current pool of Super Eagles whack players?

LOL. I was giving an extreme scenario to make a point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:56pm On Sep 15, 2016
Do we have a pool of regular 14 - 15 regulars? grin

This is were the confusion started from obviously.

If there is, please kindly list them. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:58pm On Sep 15, 2016
chrisooblog:
you forget that the 96 team also improved on the 94 set. kanu, babayaro, oruma, taribo west grin, garba lawal, dosu joseph, mobi oparaku, karibe ojigwe, teslim fatusi etc these were young guys added to the likes of oliseh, amokachi, okocha, akpoborie, amunike, finidi, t. babangida
so where is the lack of competition?

siasia could be dropped because he was nowhere near the team during qualifiers for france 98. i can understand yekini because he's our all time leading scorer and we could give him the benefit of the doubt. besides i remember in the build up to france 98 we played a friendly against jamaica in which yekini scored.

i'm happy you used the spanish example. the core of the team between 2007-2012 cassilas, puyol, xavi, alonso, ineista, fabregas, busquets, ramos etc no suprises they won 1 world cup and 2 euros in that period

the key word you should note is POOL OF TALENTED PLAYERS. any other unknown player who merits being called should be added to the pool but we don't have time to do open camp and be saying ''oya come show yourself'' we have passed that stage


So I take it we are of the same page. If we get better players, we improve the team with them. No steady shirt for an underperforming player when there is a better choice.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:00pm On Sep 15, 2016
forgiveness:
Do we have a pool of regular 14 - 15 regulars? grin

This is were the confusion started from obviously.

Is there is, please kindly list them. grin

I doubt we really know our strongest eleven. We just know our regular eleven. I think the multiple changing of coaches caused this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:23pm On Sep 15, 2016
Icon4s:


Yes, I highlighted that in one of my earlier posts.

Almost every year from 1990 -1994, you had several players that played for the eagles. Remember Ekoku too.

1990 had the biggest additions for obvious reasons but we had several more through the years. Not everyone was good enough to replace the players there.

Oliseh are Tunisia 94 was just 19 officially, Okocha was about 20.. Amuneke was also young..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:25pm On Sep 15, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I doubt we really know our strongest eleven. We just know our regular eleven. I think the multiple changing of coaches caused this.

That is what I am talking about. We do not have or know our strongest 11 and that's why there must be substitution by elimination. The players invited for Tanzania match was obviously from Yusuf and some local coaches.

Rohr no no much about most of our players. Fact!

They are still Yusuf and Co boys. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 7:48pm On Sep 15, 2016
How Super Eagles first team should look like at the moment.

I- Ikeme

2 Musa Muhamed

3 Echejile/Amuzie

4 Mikel/Onazi/Ndidi

5 L. Balogun

6 Ekon

7 Simon/Musa

8 Etebo

9 Iheanacho/Ighalo

10 Iwobi/Mikel

11 Moses/Simon

If Iheanacho can lead Man City's attack as a lone striker, I don't see reason why he can't do the same for us.
Ighalo is good but Iheanacho is better.

I also believe Etebo can do well for us as a supporting striker since we have better options in midfield -Iwobi,Mikel.
If I'm SE coach,I will play Nacho upfront n Etebo behind him.
And see what happens.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 7:52pm On Sep 15, 2016
How Super Eagles first team should look like at the moment.

I- Ikeme

2 Musa Muhamed

3 Echejile/Amuzie

4 Mikel/Onazi/Ndidi

5 L. Balogun

6 Ekon

7 Simon/Musa

8 Etebo

9 Iheanacho/Ighalo

10 Iwobi/Mikel

11 Moses/Simon

If Iheanacho can lead Man City's attack as a lone striker, I don't see reason why he can't do the same for us.
That derby game was really a statement especially for nigerian coaches.
Ighalo is good but Iheanacho is better.

I also believe Etebo can do well for us as a supporting striker since we have better options in midfield -Iwobi,Mikel.
If I'm SE coach,I will play Nacho upfront n Etebo behind him n see what happens.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:15pm On Sep 15, 2016
chrisooblog:
my argument and that of icon is that at present we have a group of players (of which i even included fanendo adi o!) bar one or two good enough to qualify nigeria for the world cup in russia but the goodjoe's argument and others is to invite everyone wether romania based, iraq based, afghanistan based, benin based etc to come to camp so we can then determine who's the best even though we have no time and qualifiers are upon us.


No my idea is simple, if a player makes waves we need to investigate. If a Nigerian is voted player of the yr or wins the league in Iraq then that player deserves a look. We had some guys scoring hattricks in champions league and we didn't give them a shout. Adi won the mls and we gave him lip service. Isaac Success was the best young player in Spain and i still dn't knw who the boy has offended. These players are showing themselves but it seems we are looking in the other direction.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:45pm On Sep 15, 2016
I don't credit coaching, I credit form and luck. Go a couple years back these same players were on somebodies bench or injured. People say teams are no longer scared of Nigeria but hw do u get scared of a player u hv never actually watched on tv? We were no different than Congo because their players played in Europe also just not in top leagues. Now that our players mainly r n good leagues doing well i can guarantee that that fear is back. Also our core as of now(Iheanacho, Ighalo, Mikel, Moses, Musa, Iwobi) are in one league, that has never happened with any past coach to have his best players playing in the same top European league. So I will expect good results but i wouldn't always credit good coaching sometime its just good fortune.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:58pm On Sep 15, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


No my idea is simple, if a player makes waves we need to investigate. If a Nigerian is voted player of the yr or wins the league in Iraq then that player deserves a look. We had some guys scoring hattricks in champions league and we didn't give them a shout. Adi won the mls and we gave him lip service. Isaac Success was the best young player in Spain and i still dn't knw who the boy has offended. These players are showing themselves but it seems we are looking in the other direction.

Iraq Lol.. The quality of football in some leagues is not worth the trouble.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:14pm On Sep 15, 2016
tbaba1234:


Iraq Lol.. The quality of football in some leagues is not worth the trouble.

I am still with BascoVanVeli on this too. It is worth the trouble. That was how some wrote off Aaron Samuel because they thought China was not worth the trouble.

If the player is making waves, test.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:38pm On Sep 15, 2016
Napoleon55:
How Super Eagles first team should look like at the moment.

I- Ikeme

2 Shehu(the olympic guy)

3 Echejile/Amuzie

4 Mikel/Onazi/Ndidi

5 L. Balogun

6 Ekon

7 Simon/Musa

8 Etebo

9 Iheanacho/Ighalo

10 Iwobi/Mikel

11 Moses/Simon

If Iheanacho can lead Man City's attack as a lone striker, I don't see reason why he can't do the same for us.
That derby game was really a statement especially for nigerian coaches.
Ighalo is good but Iheanacho is better.

I also believe Etebo can do well for us as a supporting striker since we have better options in midfield -Iwobi,Mikel.
If I'm SE coach,I will play Nacho upfront n Etebo behind him n see what happens.

I can't stop laughing at this.

Which formation is this? When did Iwobi start playing as a number 10?! There is a big difference between an Amf and a Cmf, a 10 is always a Cmf, an Amf is not called a 10, rather you can even call him a number 8, so Iwobi CANNOT play as a 10 but as a number 8.

If Enyeama comes back, Ikeme should go straight to the stands, sorry I mean bench. Although both will be thesame because Enyeama won't be rested.

So you honestly watched that Man City game and you believe Iheanacho can play as a lone striker? The only two Nigerians now who can play as a lone striker are Ighalo and Ideye, Adi might be able to do it. Iheanacho was literally playing up front with De Bruyne, he never had to play without the ball, there are many types of lone strikers, the lone striker in a 4-3-3 formation is different from that of a 4-5-1 and being able to play one does not equate to being able to play the other. If Nigeria plays a 4-5-1 then Ighalo/Ideye/Adi has to start, Iheanacho can't play that at all, Iheanacho always pulls out to bring his teammates into the game but if he is the only person forward, who is he pulling out for?

Anyways u adopted a 4-4-2 formation which does not require a lone striker or maybe you meant Iheanacho can lead the line, then ofcourse, the only headache is who we are going to play behind him, Iwobi or Etebo. If only Mikel could still play as our Dmf, then we can play both at thesame time with a modified 4-1-3-2, infact we can't play both, so it's a question of who amongs them will play. Iheanacho is a sure goalscoring machine, so if he plays then scoring shouldn't be the problem so what you need is to maintain balance, Iwobi maintains balance more than Etebo but if we want to hammer Zambia for example, then Etebo is the right man.

Besides these, I kinda agree with everything else you said EXCEPT shehu, granted that Musa Mohammed wasn't the best but Shehu? While you are at it why not just bring back Efe Ambrose? For me o, I would shift Leon to that spot and play either Omeruo/Ndidi/Awaziem there. Not to mention that for me, Azubuike already has that Dmf spot reserved for him, so Onazi and Ndidi should look for other positions. Ndidi can play as our backup CB,Onazi can go to RB and be the back-up I don't care

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:47am On Sep 16, 2016
Mickael2:


I can't stop laughing at this.

Which formation is this? When did Iwobi start playing as a number 10?! There is a big difference between an Amf and a Cmf, a 10 is always a Cmf, an Amf is not called a 10, rather you can even call him a number 8, so Iwobi CANNOT play as a 10 but as a number 8.

If Enyeama comes back, Ikeme should go straight to the stands, sorry I mean bench. Although both will be thesame because Enyeama won't be rested.

So you honestly watched that Man City game and you believe Iheanacho can play as a lone striker? The only two Nigerians now who can play as a lone striker are Ighalo and Ideye, Adi might be able to do it. Iheanacho was literally playing up front with De Bruyne, he never had to play without the ball, there are many types of lone strikers, the lone striker in a 4-3-3 formation is different from that of a 4-5-1 and being able to play one does not equate to being able to play the other. If Nigeria plays a 4-5-1 then Ighalo/Ideye/Adi has to start, Iheanacho can't play that at all, Iheanacho always pulls out to bring his teammates into the game but if he is the only person forward, who is he pulling out for?

Anyways u adopted a 4-4-2 formation which does not require a lone striker or maybe you meant Iheanacho can lead the line, then ofcourse, the only headache is who we are going to play behind him, Iwobi or Etebo. If only Mikel could still play as our Dmf, then we can play both at thesame time with a modified 4-1-3-2, infact we can't play both, so it's a question of who amongs them will play. Iheanacho is a sure goalscoring machine, so if he plays then scoring shouldn't be the problem so what you need is to maintain balance, Iwobi maintains balance more than Etebo but if we want to hammer Zambia for example, then Etebo is the right man.

Besides these, I kinda agree with everything else you said EXCEPT shehu, granted that Musa Mohammed wasn't the best but Shehu? While you are at it why not just bring back Efe Ambrose? For me o, I would shift Leon to that spot and play either Omeruo/Ndidi/Awaziem there. Not to mention that for me, Azubuike already has that Dmf spot reserved for him, so Onazi and Ndidi should look for other positions. Ndidi can play as our backup CB,Onazi can go to RB and be the back-up I don't care
Pls don't stop laughing.
Anyways, I just listed 15 players which I think r our best for now, Musa Muhamed was the only exclusion from my list ,it was a mistake,so Musa takes the place of Shehu in my list. Musa Muhamed just happens to skip my mind.
No formation, I did not adapt any formations,the coach will sort it out. The list above is just my best players on each positions,nothing else.

And u think u knows football,that an attacking midfielder cannot play the 10 role,and Iwobi cannot play as a number 10? U r wrong.
And Iheanacho cannot lead our attack,watch out 4 our next match.
U believe Ighalo and Ideye is the only lone strikers we have,haw far have they fared?
Of course If Enyeama agrees to come back,he is undisputed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:37am On Sep 16, 2016
Mickael2:


I can't stop laughing at this.

Which formation is this? When did Iwobi start playing as a number 10?! There is a big difference between an Amf and a Cmf, a 10 is always a Cmf, an Amf is not called a 10, rather you can even call him a number 8, so Iwobi CANNOT play as a 10 but as a number 8.

If Enyeama comes back, Ikeme should go straight to the stands, sorry I mean bench. Although both will be thesame because Enyeama won't be rested.

So you honestly watched that Man City game and you believe Iheanacho can play as a lone striker? The only two Nigerians now who can play as a lone striker are Ighalo and Ideye, Adi might be able to do it. Iheanacho was literally playing up front with De Bruyne, he never had to play without the ball, there are many types of lone strikers, the lone striker in a 4-3-3 formation is different from that of a 4-5-1 and being able to play one does not equate to being able to play the other. If Nigeria plays a 4-5-1 then Ighalo/Ideye/Adi has to start, Iheanacho can't play that at all, Iheanacho always pulls out to bring his teammates into the game but if he is the only person forward, who is he pulling out for?

Anyways u adopted a 4-4-2 formation which does not require a lone striker or maybe you meant Iheanacho can lead the line, then ofcourse, the only headache is who we are going to play behind him, Iwobi or Etebo. If only Mikel could still play as our Dmf, then we can play both at thesame time with a modified 4-1-3-2, infact we can't play both, so it's a question of who amongs them will play. Iheanacho is a sure goalscoring machine, so if he plays then scoring shouldn't be the problem so what you need is to maintain balance, Iwobi maintains balance more than Etebo but if we want to hammer Zambia for example, then Etebo is the right man.

Besides these, I kinda agree with everything else you said EXCEPT shehu, granted that Musa Mohammed wasn't the best but Shehu? While you are at it why not just bring back Efe Ambrose? For me o, I would shift Leon to that spot and play either Omeruo/Ndidi/Awaziem there. Not to mention that for me, Azubuike already has that Dmf spot reserved for him, so Onazi and Ndidi should look for other positions. Ndidi can play as our backup CB,Onazi can go to RB and be the back-up I don't care

The number 8 role, is a Support Striking Role. It is different from a ten role. Also, the ten role is not a CMF role but an attack midfield role.

I disagree with you and agree with Napoleon55. Iwobi can play the ten role. He played there against Egypt in Alexandria.

Iheanacho played as a lone striker also. He was not paired with De Bruyne. De Bruyne made his moves from the midfield to attack.

Iheanacho played as a lone striker many times last season and he was the lone striker against Manchester United in the derby.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:46am On Sep 16, 2016
Europa League Wrap : Ideye Notches Helper; Umar Strikes; Balogun Not Utilized; Friday Starts; LK8 Overcomes Groin Complaint; Simon Shines
Published: September 16, 2016


Catch up on how players of Nigerian descent fared in the Europa League on Thursday, September 15.

Super Eagles midfielder Wilfred Ndidi
played 90 minutes of Racing Genk’s 3-2 loss to Rapid Vienna at Allianz Stadion (Wien).

Nura Mohammed was not in the Roma squad that registered a 1-1 draw with Viktoria Plzeň in the Czech Republic. The defender is not in the Giallorossi roster for the Europa League.

Olarenwaju Kayode played the last eight minutes of Austria Vienna’s 3-2 win at Astra Giurgiu after overcoming a groin complaint.

Fred Friday started and played 55 minutes of AZ’s 1-1 draw against Dundalk at AFAS Stadion (Alkmaar).

Zenit St. Petersburg bested Maccabi Tel Aviv in a seven -goal thriller. The Yellows number 40 Nosa Igiebor put in a ninety-minute shift in midfield.

On his return to Switzerland, former Neuchâtel Xamax star[b] Brown Ideye[/b] fired blanks as Olympiakos defeated Young Boys 1-0 at STADE DE SUISSE Wankdorf Bern (Bern) . The Nigeria international notched an assist in the 42nd minute, then got replaced with eight minutes remaining.

Emmanuel Emenike appeared off the bench in the 73rd minute as Fenerbahce were held to a 1-1 draw at Zorya.

Defender Leon Balogun was not utilized as Mainz 05 settled for a 1-1 draw with Saint-étienne at Opel Arena, with 20275 spectators watching.

On his debut for Standard Liege, Elderson Echiejile started and was in action for 86 minutes as the Belgian team shared the spoils with Celta Vigo (1-1).

Nigeria internationals Raheem Lawal and Umar Aminu started as Osmanlıspor beat Steaua Bucharest 2-0 at Osmanlı Stadı (Ankara). The Dream Team VI star registered his name on the scorecard in the 74th minute before he was replaced a minute later.

John Ogu and Anthony Nwakaeme starred for Hapoel Beer Sheva in their surprise 2-0 win at Inter Milan . The two players played the full game.

Gent winger Moses Simon gave Sporting Braga a lot of headache before he was replaced in the 40th minute after a rash challenge by Lazar Rosic. The Nigeria international will have to undergo further tests to determine the severity of his injury.

Teammate Anderson Esiti played the full game while Rabiu Ibrahim was a non-playing sub. It finished 1-1 at the Estádio Municipal de Braga.

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=20456

I saw John Ogu and Anthony's Israeli club dominated Inter Milan of seria a and both players performaned wella. Anthony dey play ball and John Ogu was the oga who comfortably controlled the midfield.

Fred Friday played as a lone striker but I wasn't impressed with his performance yesterday. Although, his goal was misjudged by the referee for an offside but he didn't impress hence he was rightly substituted.

Since, I was shuffling btw the matches that involved Fred and John Ogu, I didn't see much of Elderson Echiejile's game.

Ndidi's club was trashed by an Austrian club. Guess who plays in an Austrian league? Kayode Olanrewaju of course. grin His club also trashed one Romania club. He came some few minutes before the end of the match because he complained about a groin pain prior to the match else he would for sure started the match.


Raheem Lawal and Umar as usual started the match. While Umar was substituted after he scored, Raheem Lawal lasted the distance.


This is what I am talking about. Those players mentioned can easily displace some players in the National team if given the chance.

I believe with Raheem Lawal and John Ogu in the National team, Ndidi, Onazi, Iwobi, Azubuike and Etebor Ogehnekaro might be relegated to the bench or the stance. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:27am On Sep 16, 2016
Mickael2:


I can't stop laughing at this.

Which formation is this? When did Iwobi start playing as a number 10?! There is a big difference between an Amf and a Cmf, a 10 is always a Cmf, an Amf is not called a 10, rather you can even call him a number 8, so Iwobi CANNOT play as a 10 but as a number 8.

If Enyeama comes back, Ikeme should go straight to the stands, sorry I mean bench. Although both will be thesame because Enyeama won't be rested.

So you honestly watched that Man City game and you believe Iheanacho can play as a lone striker? The only two Nigerians now who can play as a lone striker are Ighalo and Ideye, Adi might be able to do it. Iheanacho was literally playing up front with De Bruyne, he never had to play without the ball, there are many types of lone strikers, the lone striker in a 4-3-3 formation is different from that of a 4-5-1 and being able to play one does not equate to being able to play the other. If Nigeria plays a 4-5-1 then Ighalo/Ideye/Adi has to start, Iheanacho can't play that at all, Iheanacho always pulls out to bring his teammates into the game but if he is the only person forward, who is he pulling out for?

Anyways u adopted a 4-4-2 formation which does not require a lone striker or maybe you meant Iheanacho can lead the line, then ofcourse, the only headache is who we are going to play behind him, Iwobi or Etebo. If only Mikel could still play as our Dmf, then we can play both at thesame time with a modified 4-1-3-2, infact we can't play both, so it's a question of who amongs them will play. Iheanacho is a sure goalscoring machine, so if he plays then scoring shouldn't be the problem so what you need is to maintain balance, Iwobi maintains balance more than Etebo but if we want to hammer Zambia for example, then Etebo is the right man.

Besides these, I kinda agree with everything else you said EXCEPT shehu, granted that Musa Mohammed wasn't the best but Shehu? While you are at it why not just bring back Efe Ambrose? For me o, I would shift Leon to that spot and play either Omeruo/Ndidi/Awaziem there. Not to mention that for me, Azubuike already has that Dmf spot reserved for him, so Onazi and Ndidi should look for other positions. Ndidi can play as our backup CB,Onazi can go to RB and be the back-up I don't care
bro, I'll have to disagree with you on 2 counts

1 Iwobi can play as a 10, in fact he's supposed to be Mikel's replacement at his retirement...he's the most stable 10 we can come up with for now. He's great at penetrating passes

2 Kelechi can play as a lone striker, albeit not as effective as the normal lone striker, but he'll certainly do better than Ighalo and Ideye, we've tried with them, it doesn't work. At least Kelechi can track back for the ball if the service is poor, but Ighalo just stands around and waits for it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:23am On Sep 16, 2016
i haven't seen much of iwobi in the CMF role but if push comes to shove i reckon he could do a decent job in that position. however i agree he looks very effective playing from the left side of midfield.

iheanacho for me works best with a strike partner like an ideye or etebo.

against zambia being an away match i feel we should go conservative. a double pivot of ndidi/onazi or azubuike to shield the defence with mikel playing an advanced attacking role joining the likes of iwobi and victor moses to assist iheanacho in the forward role. mikel, iwobi and victor moses can then rotate from time to time to join iheanacho in our attacking forays.

my preliminary line-up for the zambia match

ikeme

m. mohammed l. balogun t. ekong e.echejiele


onazi w. ndidi


victor moses mikel iwobi


iheanacho



we will have to be extra cautious on the left side of defence because when i watched bits of zambia's home match against kenya in the AFCON qualifiers i noticed they usually attacked down the left channel. they don't concede much so we will have to be patient to break them down. plus if we see a chance to put them to the sword we should do it because those zambians never give up they will keep coming even if we are a goal ahead.


Mickael2:


I can't stop laughing at this.

Which formation is this? When did Iwobi start playing as a number 10?! There is a big difference between an Amf and a Cmf, a 10 is always a Cmf, an Amf is not called a 10, rather you can even call him a number 8, so Iwobi CANNOT play as a 10 but as a number 8.

If Enyeama comes back, Ikeme should go straight to the stands, sorry I mean bench. Although both will be thesame because Enyeama won't be rested.

So you honestly watched that Man City game and you believe Iheanacho can play as a lone striker? The only two Nigerians now who can play as a lone striker are Ighalo and Ideye, Adi might be able to do it. Iheanacho was literally playing up front with De Bruyne, he never had to play without the ball, there are many types of lone strikers, the lone striker in a 4-3-3 formation is different from that of a 4-5-1 and being able to play one does not equate to being able to play the other. If Nigeria plays a 4-5-1 then Ighalo/Ideye/Adi has to start, Iheanacho can't play that at all, Iheanacho always pulls out to bring his teammates into the game but if he is the only person forward, who is he pulling out for?

Anyways u adopted a 4-4-2 formation which does not require a lone striker or maybe you meant Iheanacho can lead the line, then ofcourse, the only headache is who we are going to play behind him, Iwobi or Etebo. If only Mikel could still play as our Dmf, then we can play both at thesame time with a modified 4-1-3-2, infact we can't play both, so it's a question of who amongs them will play. Iheanacho is a sure goalscoring machine, so if he plays then scoring shouldn't be the problem so what you need is to maintain balance, Iwobi maintains balance more than Etebo but if we want to hammer Zambia for example, then Etebo is the right man.

Besides these, I kinda agree with everything else you said EXCEPT shehu, granted that Musa Mohammed wasn't the best but Shehu? While you are at it why not just bring back Efe Ambrose? For me o, I would shift Leon to that spot and play either Omeruo/Ndidi/Awaziem there. Not to mention that for me, Azubuike already has that Dmf spot reserved for him, so Onazi and Ndidi should look for other positions. Ndidi can play as our backup CB,Onazi can go to RB and be the back-up I don't care
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:54am On Sep 16, 2016
As for me i'd like Iheanacho to continue from the middle. In African football it is very hard for the striker to make a diffrence on his own. There is more space afforded in the middle, Iheanacho had like 4 shots on goal last match. Ighalo n Ideye are big parts of their clubs and i don't think now is the time to lose faith in them. We can play Iheanacho as an SS to one of them but I think leaving him up front will be kind of a waste.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 12:57pm On Sep 16, 2016
How come nobody is talking about Sone Aluko. That guy will be a better addition. And why not invite him to give us another dimension upfront rather than having multiple defensive midfielders like Shehu, Ndidi, Onazi, Awaziem & Mikel. Also,Etebo & Moses Simon are injured, i think Success Isaac deserves a look in.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:12pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Emenike's Fenerbache grab dramatic draw in Europa League
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Emmanuel Emenike in action Fenerbac

Emmanuel Emenike’s Fenerbache pulled off a dramatic 1-1 draw at Zorya of Ukraine when they scored an equaliser five minutes into stoppage time.


Home team Zorya went in front after 52 minutes, but it was not until deep into stoppage that Turkish giants Fenerbache clawed back into the encounter.

Emenike, wearing a new dyed hair, was a 73rd minute substitute.


Also in the Europa League, compatriot Brown Ideye started, but was later replaced as Olympiacos won 1-0 at Swiss side Young Boys, while Nosa Igiebor started and finished as his Israeli club Maccabi Tel Aviv lost 4-3 at home to Russia’s Zenit.


Another Nigeria star, Olanrewaju Kayode, was an 82nd minute sub as Austrian Wien won 3-2 at Astra of Romania in another Europa League group game.

http://africanfootball.com/news/647620/Emenike-s-Fenerbache-grab-dramatic-draw-in-Europa-League
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:12pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Aminu fires Turkish club to big Europa League win
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Umar Aminu (right)

Nigeria forward Umar Aminu was on target as Turkish club Osmanlispor beat Steaua Bucuresti of Romania 2-0 in Europa League group stage clash Thursday night.


Aminu scored after 74 minutes for his team’s second goal.

Steaua Bucaresti were reduced to ten men after 45 minutes after Gabriel Enache received his second booking on the night.


In another Europa League game, defensive midfielder John Ogu posted a five-star performance as his Israeli champions Hapoel Be’er Sheva shocked home team Inter Milan 2-0 at the San Siro.


The giant Ogu and fellow Nigeria forward Anthony Nwakeme played from start to finish for the Israeli champions, who netted their two goals after the interval.
http://africanfootball.com/news/647623/Aminu-fires-Turkish-club-to-big-Europa-League-win
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:12pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Salisu Yusuf says he will seal Eagles contract next week
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Coach Salisu Yusuf

Super Eagles chief coach Salisu Yusuf has said he hopes to finally sign a contract with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) next week.


“I hope by next week I will seal my contract,” he told reporters in Abuja today.

“The NFF lawyer who will arrange the contract is not around now.”

He has severally tried to sign his contract after Gernot Rohr was engaged for two-years by the NFF.


The 54-year-old coach restated the belief Nigeria will qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

“With the right commitment and conviction, we will qualify for the World Cup with the group of young players we now have,” he said.

By Kola Daniel
http://africanfootball.com/news/647590/Salisu-Yusuf-says-he-will-seal-Eagles-contract-next-week

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:13pm On Sep 16, 2016
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FIFA Rankings: Nigeria move up, World Cup rivals drop
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Victor Moses of Nigeria (left) against Tanzania during a 2017 AFCON Qualifier

Nigeria moved three spots in the latest FIFA rankings released today, while 2018 World Cup rivals Algeria, Cameroon and Zambia slipped in the ratings.


Nigeria are now 64th in the world after they were 67th the previous month.

They are also 14th in Africa.

The slim 1-0 at home against Tanzania earlier this month will account for this upward climb.


Zambia, who will host Nigeria next month in final round of the qualifying series for the World Cup, are now 92nd in the world after they occupied 91st position in August.


Cameroon, who are also drawn against Nigeria in the World Cup qualifiers, dropped five places to 59th in the world.

Algeria slipped to 35th in the world and lost top spot in Africa to Cote d’Ivoire.

http://africanfootball.com/news/647522/FIFA-Rankings-Nigeria-move-up-World-Cup-rivals-drop

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:25pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Manchester City's Iheanacho to buy closest pal £2 million mansion
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Iheanacho (right) flanked by Kingsley Ogbodo (middle) and Eagles star Leon Balogun recently

Generous Manchester City ace Kelechi Iheanacho will celebrate his new bumper contract, which now pays him 85,000 pounds a week, by buying his closest friend a £ two million mansion in a choice neigbourhood of Manchester.


Nineteen-year-old Iheanacho, who earned between 10,000 and 18,000 pounds a week before his new deal at The Etihad, is now in the big time and now wishes to splash on Kingsley Ogbodo, who has helped him to settle down in Manchester.

Ogbodo from Enugu State was himself a footballer and even tried his luck in Hungary before he came down to England “to hustle”.


He first hooked up with Chidiebere Nwakali, who is also on the books of City but currently on loan at Norwegian club IK Start, after a chance meeting at a Manchester night club.


And it was Nwakali who introduced him to Iheanacho, and ever since Nwakali left Manchester to first start out on loan in Spain, Iheanacho and Ogbodo have been inseparable.

“They are like twins, they are everywhere together and often wearing the same designer clothes and accessories,” revealed a top source.


“He is Kelechi’s trusted travel companion, he accompanied him back to Nigeria on holidays at the end of last season. He was also by his side for the recent international duty against Tanzania in Uyo.


“Ogbodo is Kelechi’s righthand man, his closest confidant, after he dedicated the last few years to make sure the football star is very much at home in Manchester.


“He is street-smart, a man about town and totally committed to Kelechi.”

It is that dedication that Iheanacho now wishes to repay with the gift of a mansion in Greater Manchester.


http://africanfootball.com/news/647643/Manchester-City-s-Iheanacho-to-buy-closest-pal-2-million-mansion
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 1:31pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Egyptian refs for Nigeria World Cup clash, KO time fixed
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Referee Ghead Grisha (Egypt)

Egyptian referees led by Ghead Grisha will handle World Cup qualifier between Zambia and Nigeria with kick-off time fixed for 1.30pm on Sunday, October 9, in Ndola.


Grisha, incidentally, was in charge of the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations group phase clash between the Super Eagles and the Chipolopolo, at the Mbombela Stadium in Nelspruit, which ended 1-1.

The Super Eagles went ahead to eventually win that Cup of Nations tournament.


Grisha, 40, has been a FIFA referee since 2008 and he will be assisted by fellow Egyptians Tahssen Abo El Sadat Bedyer (assistant referee 1), Ahmed Hossameldin Taha (assistant referee 2) and Ibrahim Noureldin (fourth official).


Also appointed is former FIFA referee Zeli Sinko (from Cote d’Ivoire), who will serve as referee assessor, while former Ghana FA president Mahamadu Nuru Deen Jawula will be match commissioner.

http://africanfootball.com/news/647718/Egyptian-refs-for-Nigeria-World-Cup-clash-KO-time-fixed
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