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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 9:19am On Sep 17, 2016 |
@TheGoodjoe. To create is different from converting. Ronaldo, Mahrez, Sallah, Messi & co, operates from the wings and scored lots of goals. What counts is the finishing of our wingers. Our wingers are wasteful and yes, we don't play to the strengths of our strikers, we play to the strengths our wingers, that's how SE operates. They get the opportunities to create & score more than any player on the pitch. Infact, Our national teams rely mostly on wingers because that is how we play. we are Eagles & our wings count a lot. We dont rely on free kicks nor corner kicks. because we hardly convert them. Check our Olympics stats, we wasted so many. To me, although iheanacho has the poacher's instincts & good at tap in, he will struggle a lot as a top 9 for Nigeria. Judging by our wingers will to do it alone rather than play with the striker, his skill set when facing a player is low, poor first touch, weak stamina against tall & rough African defenders. These are reasons why ighalo & co always struggle to perform. Iheanacho should be given the freedom to move around, to receive & to pass, & shoot or tap in when necessary. That's where he would strive for the eagles. And if he is to top strike, then he needs a skillful bully to play with it in attack. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:47am On Sep 17, 2016 |
@Zoboizee...... I see you lay lots of subtle emphasis on "tap--ins" as regards Nacho. Issorait.... I see even among Nigerian fans, Nacho still has "haters". So tap-ins is that easy abi? And you make sound like it's "just tap-ins" he's good at ba?? I think you were in A non-existent pluto when he scored that goal in uyo that won him CNN's best international goal of the week ba? Or in many other instances ba?? Kontinu... @TheGoodJoe..... I am with You. Nacho can indeed strive as a Top 9 also (he's also capable of playing the false 9, the SS, the AMF-no.10, and a roaming AMF that can come from both wings and centrally also). I don't see what the argument is about again. Nacho has already shown that he can execute the TOP 9 role times without number so pls ignore the arguments coz stats and games don't lie.... 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 10:24am On Sep 17, 2016 |
Dont quote me out of context. I have nvr hated anybody. it's unfortunate you could end up with such premise. Mind you, am not fanatic about football. Am only emphasizing what he would do when the wingers play with him. Look at ighalo, he is always running ahead of his marker in the box unlike iheanacho who is always a bit behind on his marker's blind side & mostly on-side. So it would be easier for him to score & be on-side. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:51am On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:All the chances we create fall to the Strikers? If the eagles rely only on one man to get the goals, I dont think we will smell even second in this group. I expect goals from the wings, midfield and the odd goals from the defenders durring set pieces. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:53am On Sep 17, 2016 |
@Zoboizee...... Everything you have written about Ighalo and Nacho, I am well aware of. You don't have to be a football fanatic to have good knowledge about the game.... And tap-ins is not the only way for a no.9 to score when playing with his in-form wingers!!!!! So stop stressing on tap-ins... Haba!!! As if Tap-ins are even that easy..... 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:08am On Sep 17, 2016 |
zoboizee:Top post @zoboizee.. I raised this issue about our wingers conversion rate. I remember the last world cup, Keshi played Musa on the left and he cut Argentina to pieces. Our strength lies on the wings. Afcon 2013, Emenike used to attack from the right while Ideye played in the middle, guess who scored more goals? Emenike! Against Bosnia, he tore into Spahic so much I felt sorry for the Bosnian, all from the right . Iheanacho will score a hat full of goals if he bounces off a striker, especially cutting in from the right. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 11:34am On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: If I were guadiola, I'll train and develop him as one of the best attacking mid fielders and supporting S in the world. Finishing is not the problem of Mancity, they have the likes of Aguero, Kevin and Gabriel is also coming. All in all, I agreed with you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:07pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: This is what some of us is talking about. Pulisic and Kljesten were overlooked for the regular players but when they were given the chance, they did better than the so called regular players. This is a great lesson our coaches must accept if they want to see the best players in green white green. Bring Raheem Lawal, John Ogu, Nosa Igbeibor, Esiti, Kayode Olanrewaju, Anthony Ujah, Brain Idowu, Kenneth Otigba, and Alampasu to the camp for the next world Cup qualifiers and we go see ballers. Etebor Ogehnekaro and Simon Moses are out of the qualifiers due to injury. Raheem Lawal can take his place. We need to see Esiti fight with Ndidi for the defensive midfield position. These are the players invited for the last qualifier against Zambia and opposite them are the players doing very well in their various clubs. GK Ikechukwu Ezenwa vs Alampasu GK Carl Ikeme GK Emmanuel Daniel DF Elderson Echiéjilé DF Shehu Abdullahi vs Tyrone Ebuechi DF Leon Balogun DF William Troost-Ekong DF Jamiu Alimi vs Kenneth Otigba DF Kingsley Madu DF Musa Muhammed vs Daniel Adejo DF Chidozie Awaziem vs Brian Idowu MF John Obi Mikel (Captain) vs Ramon Azeez MF Ogenyi Onazi Vs John Ogu MF Nosa Igiebor vs Raheem Lawal MF Wilfred Ndidi Vs Anderson Esiti FW Ahmed Musa FW Brown Ideye vs Kayode Olanrewaju FW Victor Moses vs Sone Aluko FW Moses Simon vs Isaac Success FW Odion Ighalo vs Anthony Ujah FW Alex Iwobi vs Rabiu Ibrahim vs Abdul Ajagun FW Kelechi Iheanacho FW Imoh Ezekiel vs Seyi Ojo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:32pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Nacho's Speedy conversion rate is what stands him out in Europe. Finishing wasn't Barca's problem either when Messi came on the scene. They had SAMUEL ETO'O FILS AND RONALDINHO..... So Nacho's is a similar rise to Messi's at Barca... Him playing as a 9 won't limit his Vision or passing abilities. It won't also limit his ability to play and cut in from the wings (especially the right wing). It won't limit his ability to operate in the hole behind a top striker or as a Support Striker... Look at Messi.... Does he not still maintain his creativity despite playing "false 9" for the Guardiola Era at Barca? Nacho has natural Vision. That can't ever be lost.... He's still a striker/AMF super-hybrid to me.... We shouldn't limit him. lakesidepapa: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:56pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
forgiveness: Now, after putting them side by side, I want to reshuffle the team to choose my own starting eleven and substitutes. .............................. Carl Ikeme (if Vincent returns, he is sure banker) .......... Musa........ Balogun........ Ekong......... Echiejile .......................... Mikel Obi ................................................ Raheem Lawal Victor.................. Iheanacho...................... Imoh .................................................... Ighalo 4-2-3-1 Sub; Daniel, Alampasu, Defence; Kenneth Otigba, Brain Idowu, Kingsley Madu, DM; Ndidi, CM; John Ogu, Ogenyi-onazi Attacking midfielder: Alex Iwobi, Abdul Ajagun Striker; Anthony Ujah, Ahmed Musa, These are my own best players for now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:19pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
goldfish80: As much as not all the chances fall to the striker, the conversion rate of the strikers is poor. If you count our missed chances in recent games, you will find out that from Emenike, Ideye, Ighalo, we have wasted a lot up front. With Iheanacho, we have the striker with the best conversion rate in the EPL. Why waste that because we want to create more chances when we already create enough? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:20pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
forgiveness: Remove one in your formation. You have 11 outfield players. It is ten outfield plus a goal keeper to make eleven. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:27pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Chai! Another mistake again. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:29pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: A lot of them underrate the natural instinct to get to the right position to score. They see it as tap-in. They do not see the work and brilliant play of Nacho. Imagine a player who drops deep a lot to build-up play, which suits Guardiola's possession-heavy philosophy. Then he still finds his way to the box to tap-in. If that is not genius, The Super Genius, TheSuperNerd, please tell me what is. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:35pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
zoboizee: Where did you get that I equated Conversion to creating? I said, the Super Eagles have no problem creating chances. Since the time of Big Boss Keshi until today. Our problem is conversion. Iheanacho has the best conversion rate in the EPL. So playing him there will help reduce it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 2:10pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
zicky:I wonder oooooo. FIFA self.... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 2:42pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: We are saying the same thing and No one is limiting him. The point im trying to prove is that, his best can be seen as an AMF and he will still score goals. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:07pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Iheanacho 1 goal 1 assist and counting. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:01pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Alex Iwobi... 1 goal and 1 "super" assist.. Iwobi is a creative monster... Chaiiii... Kelechi "Alien kid" just can't stop scoring and assisting.... 3 goals and 3 assists in less than 200mins of football... Nacho na goals beast Slimani scored a brace for Leicester today and Mahrez was at his devastating best.... WE ARE NOT AFRAID!!!! LOLLL Whatever the Algerians bring our way, we got answers to them from various directions.... Hehehehe.... Bring it on!!! Beginning with The Zambians.... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:02pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
The counter for both the 2nd and 3rd goals were simply beautiful Sterling, KDB and Kelechi were brilliant today, looked quite as good as MSN...they destroyed Bournemouth's defence PS: It was Ibe's misplaced pass that fell at Kelechi's feet and started the counter for the second goal ....even in Bournemouth, nigga still sucks 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:09pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
@bolded... Chaiiii... Take am easy naa Safari... Lolll... And yeah, you're right The Sterling Double K is an awesome trident. Man City just have fantastic attacking combos they can utilise anytime. safarigirl: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:11pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
**extracted from twitter** @OptaJoe 10 - Kelechi Iheanacho has now scored 10 goals in the Premier League, despite only attempting 14 shots on target in the competition. Prodigy.. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:12pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
**extracted from twitter** @OptaJoe "10 - Kelechi Iheanacho has now scored 10 goals in the Premier League, despite only attempting 14 shots on target in the competition. Prodigy".. His strike against Bournemouth was the clinical Nigerian’s 10th Premier League goal for the citizens – from just 14 shots on target. Compare that with Olivier Giroud, who in the last two seasons has converted 16 of 42 on-target efforts, and Christian Eriksen, who has scored a paltry six out of 41. Talk about making your chances count. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:35pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: The first goal wasn't his, it was credited to Sanchez. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:24pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd:i think alexis sanchez score the first goal for arsenal today |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:31pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
enomakos: It was Iwobi's shot but it went off Sanchez foot. Almost like Yaya's shot going off Iheanacho's back last year. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:32pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:45pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Don't mind that "bloody" deflection.... Lolll... All Join shaa... Iwobi involved in 3goals today sef... BascoVanVeli: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:49pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Big Shout out to Iheanacho today. That was one hell of a marathon he ran today. He pressed, tracked back, built play and participated in counters. He was a Machine today. Maybe, TheSuperNerd will get a Noble prize for discovering the first Alien On Earth. I was too impressed with his play. His pass to Sterling for the goal was brilliant. Iheanacho is now congratulating his team-mates for assists to him. Nice growth in character. Good display and I think Guardiola left the pitch, impressed with Nacho's contribution. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:54pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
What a game by Iwobi and I think Arsene Wenger found the best way to use the young man. He was also prolific. What is interesting about Iwobi's play is how he drifts from the wings to the creative midfield position. I think Arsene Wenger is watching some tapes of Guardiola and adding similar invention to the game. Free Wingers That is what I call Iwobi's role and it is brilliant. Dynamic and creative. Iwobi got the chance to show his shooting strength. His passes were also sharp. Most impressive was his back heel pass to Walcott. Boy that goes into the Arsenal best goal tapes. Looking more like Kanu than Jay Jay. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:14pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd:Ok let me say it like it is, Sanchez stole his goal but it's still an assist making 2 for the match. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:18pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
Not to get outdone Karl Ikeme kept a clean sheet in a 2-0 win over the hottest team in the championship Newcastle. 2 Likes |
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