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Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Jay542(m): 1:49pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Kids of nowadays are just being kids. That's why most of them will end up getting married real late. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:53pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Victorakats: The only religion that I know encourages the beating of their wives is Islam, no? ![]() Victorakats: Can you show us from Scriptures how divorce is biblical? ![]() Victorakats: How is divorce reversible? Victorakats: It rather commands husbands to lay down their lives for their wives, can you? ![]() |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:54pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
emerged01: It should not be tolerated it should rather be reported to the necessary authorities. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by TV01(m): 2:00pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Are you irretrievably dull ![]() ![]() OLAADEGBU:You persist. If you desist, you remain happy to be separated - their is no divorce, and separation (and even if you forcefully claim divorce), does not grant one leave to re-marry. Else both the remarrying spouse and the person they enter into a sham union with are committing adultery ![]() ![]() OLAADEGBU:Refer to your BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (and while one is still on it) ![]() ![]() ![]() OLAADEGBU:Not only are you campaigning for Christian divorce, you are also blaspheming and adding/subtracting from the scriptures. You are arguing that divorce is scripturally permmisable. If divorce is permmisable, then serial divorce is permmisable. If divorce is allowed then the scripture is broken 1 Corinthians 7:39 - A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes... Romans 7 - 1 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man. Your audience are the cohort of divorcees and people with "bend down and pick spouses". They are here talking about how the bible can be interpreted in "different ways" - as if covetousness, theft, lies and adultery are ambiguous ![]() OLAADEGBU:You have categorised 4+ types of abuse - at what degree of abuse is divorce scriptural for each (and any other you care to mention) category. Who decides how much? Is it subjective, or is there some objective rule? We are not in deep waters yet and you already appear to be panicking ![]() ![]() TV 3 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Juzzybabe(f): 2:00pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Any woman managing a physically abusive relationship, simply has nothing to live for. 5 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:00pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Muafrika2: Who knows whether it was the wife's emotional abuse that pushed him into being inebriated. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:01pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:02pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
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Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by TV01(m): 2:05pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 2:12pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Possible. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: But you do for physical abuse. I mean, we do know emotional abuse could well lead to HBP and ultimately. So, you're against violent deaths but not quieter ones? After all, HBP has been referred to as the silent killer. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Juzzybabe: Interesting thought. What would you say about men who manage an emotionally and verbally abusive one, though? 3 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by TV01(m): 4:38pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU: Timbuktou: OLAADEGBU: Timbuktou: See logic fail – Emotional abuse (usually by women) is as bad as physical abuse (usually by men), but women are allowed to divorce for physical abuse(contrary to scripture), but men are not. See policy fail – divorce is permissable for abuse (of which there are numerous types), but at what level of abuse (for individual categories or universally) is not clear? Is it subjective, or is there an objective measure? Olaadegbu are you a feminist - your shoddy logic & ill-formulated policy would suggest so ![]() TV 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by jnrbayano(m): 5:23pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
This thread should be captioned OLAADEGBU vs TV01... TV01 is winning convincingly at the moment. *following 3 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
TV01: Me, I don't undertand all this o. I'd like Olaadegbu to explain why it's ok for one set of people to flee abuse and it's not ok for others. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 6:25pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Exactly! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 6:26pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Juzzybabe: Profound. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Fixed. ![]() |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by thesicilian: 8:07pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Marital infidelity is sexual immorality/unfaithfulness in marriage. And I think its the only ground for divorce recognized by Jesus Christ while he was physically on earth. But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery. - Matthew 5:32 (New Living Translation) |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by TV01(m): 9:38pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
thesicilian: This may appear to be the case at first glance, but look at parallel scriptures; Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. If these verses in Mark & Luke are to be believed - and they are - divorcing a woman and remarrying makes one an adulterer. Along with the divorced spouse if they should marry another. Luke and Mark seemingly contradict Matthew 5:32 & 19:9, or at least says that even if you divorce your wife for infidelity, you cannot remarry, and neither can she. So again; Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. Matthew 1:18-19 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. The seeming exception in Matthew was due to what we see in chapter 1. Joseph was espoused (betrothed to Mary), it was not a consummated marriage, even though he was called her husband - "before they came together" - it's why paternity was not in question - for ordinary Joe anyway ![]() He was putting away a fiancee, not a wife. Both parts of the transaction were considered binding, but voiding could occur at the betrothal stage (prior to consummation) if "fornication", note it was not "adultery", was proven. They were considered husband and wife at both stages. In todays terms we say better a broken engagement. There was no concept of dating or loosely engaged. Biblically, after consummation, marriage is until death do part - hence this saying by the disciples; Matthew 19:10 - His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. That's bible, it can be hard,, so take it or leave it. But please stop trying to interject worldly morés to make it more palatable to those who cannot receive it ![]() TV ...Olaadegbu, please stop prating about divorce for abuse - it's not there. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by soonest(f): 10:25pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Consistent physical abuse is a ground for divorce in my dictionary any time any day. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 5:29am On Sep 30, 2016 |
soonest: Anyone who respects himself/herself thinks so. “Have the courage to use your own reason- That is the motto of enlightenment. "Foundations of the Metaphysics of Morals" (1785)” |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Juzzybabe(f): 10:21am On Sep 30, 2016 |
Timbuktou: My point of view, (either men or women) you can easily live with verbal abuse and get over emotional abuse but one might not Survive physical abuse. People who manages physical abuse in marriages/relationships just to break the record, always leave us with their tale to serve as a lesson while they are either gone,or damaged beyond repairs. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by joseph1832(m): 12:04pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
soonest:Consistent abuse you say? Wow! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
Juzzybabe: So, what you're saying is emotional abuse causes or leaves no harm on the victim? It's just water off a duck's back. Got it. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by Nobody: 1:24pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
soonest: So, a headbutt or drop kick once every few years is cool? ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by RiloKiley: 2:26pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
TV01: He's a very confused fellow. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by missjo(f): 2:33pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
soonest:Any kind of abuse physical or otherwise should be a ground for divorce if we are been fair. 1 Like |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by missjo(f): 2:39pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
thesicilian:Hello,if you read the entire chapter of Mathew 5 you will understand that almost everyone of us will go to hell one way or the other. ![]() There are no TRUE Christians anymore as far as am concerned and if there are,its too few. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by missjo(f): 3:16pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
TV01:You quote the Bible a lot for someone who likes to bully, insult, and talk down on women,is this the Christian way? 6 Likes |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by RiloKiley: 4:19pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: In your child-like fantasy, couples will never argue nor fight. The day they do they are no longer in love. Childish thinking. We are all imperfect human beings and times will come when we can't stand one another. It is at times like that that a mature love will take you through the rough patches. Love does not love because the other loves back. Love loves unconditionally I won't be surprised if u don't understand this. |
Re: Is Abuse An Acceptable Reason For Divorce? by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
OP When your wife is a bad cook that is also some form of abuse When your husband snores that is also one form of abuse When your wife spends lavishly that is one for of abuse When your husband doesnt make enough money that is also some form of abuse When sexx with your wife/husband is no longer good or frequent, that is also abuse When they partner press toothpaste from the middle thats also an abusive behavior All these and more are grounds for divorce |
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