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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 5:41pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro: Why didn't we win the league in the previous season then? The funny thing is we looked lethargy and sluggish with little creativity while Rvp consistently bailed us out on many occasion that season. The title was all on Rvp and Carrick that season. And I never said Rooney was always on the bench. I said he was fighting everyone and looked rubbish because he got benched by fergie. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:47pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
parrotibaba: I watched 2006 world cup. I am sure I saw all Italy's games, particularly from the knockout. That was a poor team but there were some players who made that team going. From the semi final when they were paired against the host, Italy became my favorite. I didn't like it Germany beat Argentina and I wasn't a supporter of France. But my real focus on him was in recent years, I can't know from when exactly. May be 2010 world cup. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:57pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Diademk07: We didn't win the league in 2011/2012 for some reasons: 1. City needed it desperately. They needed to fight to the last to prove a point for once. 2 . De Gea was new and making errors in his first season. 3. We had our worst injuries that year. 4. SAF'S decision to rest Scholes in Newcastle when we went 8 points clear in previous games. Earlier in the season in January, SAF punished Rooney against Blackburn by dropping him from the team. The fear factor was gone and Blackburn capitalised. In those two matches, these players should have at least been on the bench. At the end, it was on goals difference we lost it after Aguero's injury time winner on the final day. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:06pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Apparently miki is still recovering from the injury he suffered against city. The club is asking the Armenian national team to leave him in Manchester. Another international break don come, hopefully our main guys no go chop injury because this month of October is tight for us. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:32pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:I think ancelotti started playing him in the dmf position during his early days at Milan. Their 2005 champions League final against Liverpool, he was played there with gattuso and seedorf partnering him in midfield. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 6:40pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
parrotibaba: Your attempts to score invaluable points are laughable to say the least.... Before last season, Pogba's attacking instincts were already highlighted... This is from the Viera you compared him with...
i'm still at a loss as to why you have decided to clutch at straws though.... parrotibaba: This was from his former manager, Allegri....
After our loss to Watford......
During the Euros.....
During the same Euros, His Frustrated manager at the NT had this to say....
These are obvious facts that many wouldnt deny but ofcourse, your unflinching love for your darling Dabman Supercedes the truth parrotibaba: Pogba didnt sign a contract that was unfavourable to him - his agent (as an employee of his) only solicited on his behalf - it is within the player's Jurisdiction to accept or refuse what his employee (his agent) comes up with and he also has every right to dispense with his services if he feels that the agent isnt competent enough abi how is this obvious fact an issue again? The player doesnt only have a say - he has the ultimate say! i cant even believe that this is up for debate. P.S - This is the heatmap of "tactically/positionally disciplined" Pogba vs Watford 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:55pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:warris de meaning of dis mr PAWA? 4. SAF'S decision to rest Scholes in Newcastle when we went 8 points clear in previous games. Earlier in the season in January, SAF punished Rooney against Blackburn by dropping him from the team. The fear factor was gone and Blackburn capitalised. In those two matches, these players should have at least been on the benchbut we didn't loose the title cause of those games, we lost the title after failing to beat wigan everton and man city so ur claims are false. At the end, it was on goals difference we lost it after Aguero's injury time winner on the final day.imagine! so after the 89scored goals we still lost the title on goal difference, meaning unlike RVP nd co those goals scored by rooney and co were not sufficient enough to give us the required points we need in beating city to the title, 8 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:13pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Elampiro in "dust" mode.... engage at ya own peril!!! I think it was in this sorta discourse that baba labelled RVP a Dracula abi na Hyena! !!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 7:25pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Most Expensive Squad In The World 1. Manchester United 2. Real Madrid 3. Manchester City 4. Barcelona 5. Chelsea Funny that money can't give you UCL football. This Life? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:00pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
@adisaowala it is laughable that you think "charging forward is the same as being an attacking midfielder. Make we really assess that Viera comment “People compare us but, where I would win more tackles, Paul is more technically gifted than I ever was, and far more at ease on the ball,” said the former World Cup winner. “I’d busy myself with defensive duties, but he is only looking to charge forward. He can be one of the best in the world.” Oga Viera don accord Pogba his due praise and to the bolded, he simply meant that while he was more interested in defending than attack, Pogba will already be looking to charge forward with the ball which is obviously his style of play. See we are now choosing the matches that suits our arguments, here's what Jamie Redknap said about Pogba against Leicester. “Everyone jumps on the bandwagon when Paul Pogba isn’t quite at his best because of his £89m price tag. Against soton Thierry Henry "We can look at his stats but the one I like is 11.2km run from a guy who has been in training only for a week. What I got from talking to him was he couldn't wait. He couldn't wait to go out there. I think that's why Mourinho didn't sub him, he was enjoying it. Tonight I thought he was brilliant. I thought he had a man of the match performance - although obviously Zlatan got it by scoring two goals. Jamie Redknap "There would have been a lot of people tuning in today wondering what all the fuss was about with this guy. The dances, the dabs, the Instagram posts… But he showed he's the real deal today. His overall performance - after a week's training - was incredible. I was so impressed with his all-round game. This is buffon “Just after a few training sessions, we saw how good he was. So much for a luxury player whose only ability is to dab. To the agent/contract negotiations. Again and again, the agent is responsible for negotiating a contract with the club and not the player. The club deals with the agents who can make life difficult for the club if they choose to. Again the player have a say in proceedings but ultimately the thrashing of the deal is between the agents and the club. This is an extract from Sir Alex Ferguson's Autobiography concerning the reason Pogba left United in the first place. "He [Raiola] and I were like oil and water," he writes in the book. "From then on our goose was cooked because Raiola had been able to ingratiate himself with Paul and his family and the player signed with Juventus."This clearly stated that SAF dealt with Raiola and not with Pogba during the attempt to extend his contract. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:35pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Abeg adisaowala I no wan mk Pogba come be wahala between us, ultimately everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. Good night! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:40pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
weedtaker: You don't know what you are saying. We scored more goals without RVP. 2011/2012 points 89, GF 89, GA 33, GD +56 2012/2013 points 89, GF 86, GA 43, GD +43 You can see we did better without RVP. We scored more without him and had a better goals difference. City were just poor in 2012/2013 and we were lucky with injuries. You no know ball. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:49pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
^^^ In 2011/2012 we won 28 drew 5 lost 5 In 2012/2013 we won 28 drew 5 lost 5 We did better in scoring the previous season. If we had continued that way, with Welbeck having his second real season at senior level, Rooney +Welbeck + Chicharito would have given us 100 goals plus. But we changed pattern, that is that we suffer today. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:55pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro: LOL! The point you keep forgetting is that we already wrapped up the title early. I remembered the 3-3 draw against Westbrom for example after we had already won the title! With Rvp, we wrapped up our title chase early but with Rooney in the previous season, we looked clueless, more or less like a clown in every fucking match. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 9:34pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro: that's it... you wont/cant disappoint |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Diademk07: Common sense will tell you that without RVP, Rooney, Welbeck and Chicharito would have wrapped up the title by March 2013 considering what they did in previous season. Despite SAF's error of benching Rooney against Blackburn, and Scholes against Newcastle, coupled with the bad injuries that season, these guys were ruthless in goal scoring. They accumulated 89 points and +56 goals against all odds. Rooney actually did better than RVP in Goals per minutes played that season. SAF spoilt our style of play with the purchase of RVP and Kagawa. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 9:39pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
parrotibaba: Grasping at straws again.... It was never even the bone of contention but you kept on as if it was a blasphemous thing to say...all in a bid to prove a point that wasnt even the issue. i am only responsible for what i post - the comprehension aspect is entirely in the hands of the reader If you are still trying to pick holes in obvious statements, there is really nothing i can do parrotibaba: I have given you the views of his former and present managers that support my opinion - Mr Allegri has told us that Pogba is an unserious "Showboater" while Deschamps sees him as a Personal glory-thirsty SOB who craves the limelight so much abi wetin remain again? These are people that had/have direct authority over him oh.. parrotibaba: Nobody said that the player negotiates directly bros - stop trying so hard to create another argument. No agent can make life difficult for any club without the backing of the player he represents (his employer) abi how is this so difficult to understand? From your logic.... A player is willing to accept a particular salary + benefits and his agent (probably due to greed) feels that the salary is too small. If the interested club insists not to up their offer and the player really wants to join that club (against the wishes of the greedy agent), are you saying that the agent would have the final say and lord it over his employer? The same agent Pogba could have fired during negotiations? parrotibaba: As at that time, Pogba was an unknown 19 year old kid who was always gonna be pushed and shoved about. You really cannot compare that situation to what obtained during the last transfer window, would you? The lad was still at a very important stage of his development and its only natural for an agent to be domineering - i made this clear with the "Help me to Europe" analogy i stated previously (not literarily though..)
Again, this is the heatmap of our Positionally/ tactically disciplined http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/paul-pogbas-manchester-united-struggles-8868388 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 9:51pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
weedtaker:I respect your weed. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 9:52pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
parrotibaba: why Dabman go cause wahala between us tele? we are here to share our views and its only natural for peeps to have conflicting ideologies atimes. Goodnight Sir! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 10:16pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Why no one is talking about other giant Clubs across the Europe that either threw away 2 Points or all the 3 points?! Why is everyone so concerned about United?! 5 Likes
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 10:26pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Can someone identify the Kid in the below Picture?! He was a Captain at tender age - meaning he's talented since childhood!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 10:32pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Oasis007:Herrera |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 11:39pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Diademk07: I've proven this in the past where the importance of RVP won us the league. Rooney missed some games where RVP was key for us winning games. If not for the fact that we had RVP, we wouldn't have won that league. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:24am On Oct 04, 2016 |
Oasis007: It's Ander...Same face,that guy no dey old ni? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 1:19am On Oct 04, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:well done |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 1:23am On Oct 04, 2016 |
Oasis007:they are because the dabman and the lout of a coach couldn't save una. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:11am On Oct 04, 2016 |
elrony: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 04, 2016 |
Oasis007:You broke transfer record, you have the most expensive footballer and the most expensive squad in the world and shouldn't be playing a draw after going a goal up with a relegation battling Stoke at Old Trafford, coupled with the fact you being managed by the self acclaimed special one. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:18am On Oct 04, 2016 |
ander herrera gets first spain call up. at least something wey our under_de_canopy pundit no see, Spain manager don see am. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:30am On Oct 04, 2016 |
"He trains every day at his best, trying to get everyone at their highest level. He doesn’t lose one training session. "He is very, very aggressive and demanding but in a good way because every day he wants to win every training session and he wants everyone with him to win to keep working so we are very lucky to have Zlatan with us. "If you saw a game and you didn’t know Zlatan's age you could think he was only 28 or 29 and that is good for us. "He's an example for every one of us. I am not young, not old, I’m in the middle and he is an example for me as well. When you behave as a professional you can still be at a top club at 35. "You see the way Zlatan behaves. The way he trains even before the training session, he is always stretching, taking care of his body, so that is the way a professional player has to behave." - Ander Herrera 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:30am On Oct 04, 2016 |
“He is a great personality and a great guy as well. When you see how fit he is then you see what kind of a professional he is and I think he is an example for me and a lot of players." - Daley Blind |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 8:49am On Oct 04, 2016 |
weedtaker:at least certain people fit let us rest at the end of the day |
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