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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:49pm On Oct 03, 2016
@bolded.... Big Amen to that!!! smiley

zicky:
I remember sometime back either in kickoff or Completesport ask fans to vote Nigeria greatest player of all time and I remember very well Kanu came top.



Happy birthday Nacho greater height, a legend in the making surpassing Kanu, jayjay n yakini record combine

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:49pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
You asked for an African striker in the 20th century or even 21st... And I gave you Hossam Hassan and Abou treika. Didn't Mido play in England?

The Glory of the latter just have to outshine the former. There are no excuses.

Things may look easier now to you but it's the same hardwork and effort a player must put in to be counted among the best.

After all, Finidi was in Yekini's 94 Eagles Golden Era and he won the UCL with Ajax.

This excuse of Yekini didn't feature for a big side na wa ooo..... He left his mark at Setubal... Yes, a modest side but that was his path.



Finidi started playing for Nigeria in 1991
Yekini started playing in 1985

Two different generations. In 1994, Yekini was already in his 30s. Finidi was a young player and the tide was changing for Africa players.

Not a good comparison.

How many Egyptians play in Europe?? Mido is an outlier not the norm.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:52pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
This is rhetorical..... I have indirectly answered this sef.

Nigeria's greatest striker of all time is NOT EQUAL TO Nigeria's Finest and most successful player of all time. Tu comprends? smiley

Are you switching the argument to finest and successful now? I thought the argument was on legendary status? Why shifting the goal post?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:03pm On Oct 03, 2016
Tide was changing but Finidi still needed to work his socks off. Till today, it's not a walk in the park for African players to reach global heights in the game. Wasn't comparing them by the way.... I know Yekini was before Finidi by six years in the national side.

Mido is an outlier but is an Egyptian all the same. Even Amr Zaki starred at Wigan.

El-sharawy is Egyptian but of italian citizenship.

Hossam Hassan and Abou Treika chose their paths. They were big guns but yet never starred for a Big european side.

Besides, you ask how many Egyptians play in Europe? I ask this, "How many big sides came for them?" Did Arsenal or Manchester Utd make concrete enquiries about Hassan and Treika??

What happened to the changing tide with respect to these guys?

Hossam and Abou Treika are larger-than-life Figureheads in Egyptian football folklore and came after Yekini in the "era of changing tide". They achieved records that beat many on the African continent but never got the attention of the "massive clubs". And you say, "if a player/striker had done what yekini did, they would make it to a massive club in this era"

Well, Abou treika and Hassan belonged to "this era" and never made it to a massive club.

Mido did. Amr Zaki made it to Europe. A certain Ramadan Sobhy (scorer of that goal in alexandria that knocked us out of afcon 2017) is now in Europe. Salah is in europe at Roma. So what are we saying then?

tbaba1234:


Finidi started playing for Nigeria in 1991
Yekini started playing in 1985

Two different generations. In 1994, Yekini was already in his 30s. Finidi was a young player and the tide was changing for Africa players.

Not a good comparison.

How many Egyptians play in Europe?? Mido is an outlier not the norm.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:04pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
because of goals? So Finidi wasn't feeding him eh?? Finidi didn't stand out eh? Amuneke nko? Amokachi that was his foil nko??

Yekini wasn't even our stand-out performer at USA 1994. Or u wanna say the contrary?



Was Finidi there when he was the 2nd highest goal scorer in 1990?

Was Amokachi there when he became the highest goal scorer in 1992 AFCON?

Was Amuneke there when he scored all the goals to become highest goal scorer in 1994 AFCON? grin

Was Amuneke, Amokachi and Finidi there when he became highest goal scorer in the Portuguese league(top 3 league in world as at that time)? grin

No be fluke, na talent. Peak, it is in him. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:11pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Tide was changing but Finidi still needed to work his socks off. Till today, it's not a walk in the park for African players to reach global heights in the game. Wasn't comparing them by the way.... I know Yekini was before Finidi by six years in the national side.

Mido is an outlier but is an Egyptian all the same. Even Amr Zaki starred at Wigan.

El-sharawy is Egyptian but of italian citizenship.

Hossam Hassan and Abou Treika chose their paths. They were big guns but yet never starred for a Big european side.

Besides, you ask how many Egyptians play in Europe? I ask this, "How many big sides came for them?" Did Arsenal or Manchester Utd make concrete enquiries about Hassan and Treika??

What happened to the changing tide with respect to these guys?

Hossam and Abou Treika are larger-than-life Figureheads in Egyptian football folklore and came after Yekini in the "era of changing tide". They achieved records that beat many on the African continent but never got the attention of the "massive clubs". And you say, "if a player/striker had done what yekini did, they would make it to a massive club in this era"

Well, Abou treika and Hassan belonged to "this era" and never made it to a massive club.

Mido did. Amr Zaki made it to Europe. A certain Ramadan Sobhy (scorer of that goal in alexandria that knocked us out of afcon 2017) is now in Europe. Salah is in europe at Roma. So what are we saying then?


I think the idea of putting European titles side by side is not a fair assessment. Yekini scored 90 goals in 114 games for Setubal. That is close to messi/ronaldo standard. He was obviously better than the league but none of the big teams in Europe came for him. Kanu was never that prolific.

I believe the he is among the top three Nigerian players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12pm On Oct 03, 2016
LOL.

TheSuperNerd needs to shout Yekini is a Super Legend 500 times for some to get it. He agrees Yekini is one of Africa's greatest but Kanu is a bigger one. So telling him Yekini is great justifies TheSuperNerd's stand.

He respects and adores Yekini. He just points out Kanu is greater.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:15pm On Oct 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


I think the idea of putting European titles side by side is not a fair assessment. Yekini scored 90 goals in 114 games for Setubal. That is close to messi/ronaldo standard. He was obviously better than the league but none of the big teams in Europe came for him. Kanu was never that prolific.

I believe the he is the top three of Nigerian players.


Kanu did not play top nine. At Ajax, there was Kluivert. At Inter, there was Ronaldo De Lima and Ivan Zamorano at Arsenal, there was Wiltord, Henry and Bergkamp.

He was more of an architect of the brilliant attacking plays of the teams he played for.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:17pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Kanu did not play top nine. At Ajax, there was Kluivert. At Inter, there was Ronaldo De Lima and Ivan Zamorano at Arsenal, there was Wiltord, Henry and Bergkamp.

He was more of an architect of the brilliant attacking plays of the teams he played for.

I am not even comparing the two players but i believe Yekini is easily in Nigeria's top 3.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:20pm On Oct 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


I am not even comparing the two players but i believe Yekini is easily in Nigeria's top 3.

You believe if given the opportunity, Yekini would perform up to the level of the top three. Not that he is easily in top three. We are talking of players playing at the highest level and recognised by many all over the world.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:22pm On Oct 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


I am not even comparing the two players but i believe Yekini is easily in Nigeria's top 3.

When we talk of Finidi George, he was the best winger in the World. Undisputed. During his reign, no winger in the World came close.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:28pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You are talking Prata de Bola, Kanu is talking winning multiple trophies, including FA Cup with Portmouth.


And who told you Yekini did not win FA Cups, leagues in Africa and played in Africa Champions final in the 80s? Then add it to Prata de Bola. grin

We are not talking about laurels won by attachment but laurels won by individual impact. grin

The difference is clear.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:33pm On Oct 03, 2016
zicky:
I remember sometime back either in kickoff or Completesport ask fans to vote Nigeria greatest player of all time and I remember very well Kanu came top.



Happy birthday Nacho greater height, a legend in the making surpassing Kanu, jayjay n yakini record combine


Of course, we know some people voted randomly to... grin

I was there but didn't vote. It was inconsequential.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:37pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
LOL.

TheSuperNerd needs to shout Yekini is a Super Legend 500 times for some to get it. He agrees Yekini is one of Africa's greatest but Kanu is a bigger one. So telling him Yekini is great justifies TheSuperNerd's stand.

He respects and adores Yekini. He just points out Kanu is greater.

Kanu is not even in top 3.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:44pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Kanu did not play top nine. At Ajax, there was Kluivert. At Inter, there was Ronaldo De Lima and Ivan Zamorano at Arsenal, there was Wiltord, Henry and Bergkamp.

He was more of an architect of the brilliant attacking plays of the teams he played for.

Oga. Kanu played as a top nine. He sometimes came from the bench to replace Kluivert.

At Inter Milan, he was just a ball boy because of his heart disease. He added nothing to that team..

At Arsenal, he was just part time player nothing more. He holds the record of 115 substitution from the bench. The 3rd in EPL history.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:27pm On Oct 03, 2016
Nigeria's Greatest and finest of all time is based on all parameters which encompasses most successful, most decorated and more.....

So is it I who is shifting or you who asks for Nigeria's greatest striker?? What sort of question is that sef??

We are talking Nigeria's finest legends of all time and you select just "striker"... Who's the post shifter then?? Loolll

You guys just love to drag a dead argument. Kanu is no.1 so live with it!!! smiley

goldfish80:

Are you switching the argument to finest and successful now? I thought the argument was on legendary status? Why shifting the goal post?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:41pm On Oct 03, 2016
Do you read at all? Do you understand me at all? Have I been saying Yekini isn't a super legend. Chaiiii.... Stop the "garrulousness"... wink

I could ask similar questions as to where Yekini was when Finidi and Amuneke were hitting big heights themselves but that would mean I am putting down a legend. I refuse to do that.... smiley

I don't wanna talk too much. The records and accolades and achievements in both "Green&White" and "Club football" are there for all to see.... KANU IS TRULY NIGERIA'S NO.1... MIKEL IS EASILY NIGERIA'S NO.2 AND FINIDI IS NO.3..... YEKINI, OKOCHA, KESHI, ENYEAMA, AND THREE OUT OF THE MANY SUPER LEGENDS WE HAVE MAKE UP THE REMAINDER OF THE TOP 10.

I do this by combining all known parameters. The records put together do not lie... smiley


forgiveness:


Was Finidi there when he was the 2nd highest goal scorer in 1990?

Was Amokachi there when he became the highest goal scorer in 1992 AFCON?

Was Amuneke there when he scored all the goals to become highest goal scorer in 1994 AFCON? grin

Was Amuneke, Amokachi and Finidi there when he became highest goal scorer in the Portuguese league(top 3 league in world as at that time)? grin

No be fluke, na talent. Peak, it is in him. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 9:57pm On Oct 03, 2016
forgiveness:


Kanu is not even in top 3.
This is the part where I have to laugh,ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaAaaaaaa
The only thing left 4 u now is to say Messi is not in top 3,I'm sure u will it very soon, I'm so sure

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:04pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Nigeria's Greatest and finest of all time is based on all parameters which encompasses most successful, most decorated and more.....

So is it I who is shifting or you who asks for Nigeria's greatest striker?? What sort of question is that sef??

We are talking Nigeria's finest legends of all time and you select just "striker"... Who's the post shifter then?? Loolll

You guys just love to drag a dead argument. Kanu is no.1 so live with it!!! smiley


Kanu Nwankwo has never been number 1. Sorry. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:09pm On Oct 03, 2016
Napoleon55:
This is the part where I have to laugh,ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaAaaaaaa
The only thing left 4 u now is to say Messi is not in top 3,I'm sure u will it very soon, I'm so sure
I need to join you laughing at his dry joke,Kanu not in top 3 hahahahahahahhahkwikwikwiwkwiwkwi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:11pm On Oct 03, 2016
forgiveness:


Kanu is not even in top 3.
who r ur top 3 greatest players of all time? Mine is -

1-Messi
2-Pele
3-Zidan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:18pm On Oct 03, 2016
forgiveness:


Kanu Nwankwo has never been number 1. Sorry. grin
whatever make you sleep at night, hahahahaha. You said you refuse to vote, why, cause you knew the overwhelming favorite but still find it hard to accept. Bruv just keep saying it to yourself "Yekini is the greatest" hahahahaah

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:56pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Do you read at all? Do you understand me at all? Have I been saying Yekini isn't a super legend. Chaiiii.... Stop the "garrulousness"... wink

I could ask similar questions as to where Yekini was when Finidi and Amuneke were hitting big heights themselves but that would mean I am putting down a legend. I refuse to do that.... smiley

I don't wanna talk too much. The records and accolades and achievements in both "Green&White" and "Club football" are there for all to see.... KANU IS TRULY NIGERIA'S NO.1... MIKEL IS EASILY NIGERIA'S NO.2 AND FINIDI IS NO.3..... YEKINI, OKOCHA, KESHI, ENYEAMA, AND THREE OUT OF THE MANY SUPER LEGENDS WE HAVE MAKE UP THE REMAINDER OF THE TOP 10.

I do this by combining all known parameters. The records put together do not lie... smiley





I thought you claimed without those players he could not had scored. grin Chai! I exposed am.

I hope you agreed they contributed nothing during those era. Sorry. grin

Well, it is only indomie noodles generation that will ask 'where Yekini was when Finidi and Amunike where hitting big heights'. In Europe? grin

Sorry! We no dey watch European football leagues in the 70s/80s because African football league was great and that was where African footballer of the year emerged then. Even Pele can testify to it. Sorry. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:18pm On Oct 03, 2016
Uhmmm.... I hope you're aware you made no sense.... Looollllll... You're just one talkative funny clown honestly.... Skipping facts and quoting other facts and then twisting others... Look... Anyone is free is talk okay but know this:

"When it comes to Records and The Truth in the beautiful Game, You can't run from it.... All you can do is deny it like it doesn't exist... But the truth remains" smiley


Nonsense remains Nonsense no matter who says it... Live with the "whole" facts... And not "some"


forgiveness:



I thought you claimed without those players he could not had scored. grin Chai! I exposed am.

I hope you agreed they contributed nothing during those era. Sorry. grin

Well, it is only indomie noodles generation that will ask 'where Yekini was when Finidi and Amunike where hitting big heights'. In Europe? grin

Sorry! We no dey watch European football leagues in the 70s/80s because African was great even Pele can testify to it. Sorry.








Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:33pm On Oct 03, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmm.... I hope you're aware you made no sense.... Looollllll... You're just one talkative funny clown honestly.... Skipping facts and quoting other facts and then twisting others... Look... Anyone is free is talk okay but know this:

"When it comes to Records and The Truth in the beautiful Game, You can't run from it.... All you can do is deny it like it doesn't exist... But the truth remains" smiley


Nonsense remains Nonsense no matter who says it... Live with the "whole" facts... And not "some"



E pain am! grin Record pass records.

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won AFCON best player of the tournament? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won highest goal scorer in League? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won the highest goal scorer in a competition? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever made AFCON team of the tournament?


Did Kanu Nwankwo qualify Nigeria to BIGGEST FIFA ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD which happens to be the WORLD CUP? grin

Did Kanu Nwankwo ever scored in FIFA BIGGEST ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD(not Europe or unrecognised Olympics for U23 TATAS)? grin
Now, this is making sense. grin

Are these not records and truths in the beautiful game of football?

Indomie noodles generations will never rewrite the history of Nigerian football. Sorry. grin

No, 1 Rashidi Yekini, no 2, grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:01am On Oct 04, 2016
Napoleon55:
This is the part where I have to laugh,ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaAaaaaaa
The only thing left 4 u now is to say Messi is not in top 3,I'm sure u will it very soon, I'm so sure

When I began to show you profile, you coolu down nau. Wait! I will soon prove it. Soon! grin

Messi is still not in the class of Pele and Maradona.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:08am On Oct 04, 2016
Napoleon55:
who r ur top 3 greatest players of all time? Mine is -

1-Messi
2-Pele
3-Zidan


Pele, Maradona and.... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:20am On Oct 04, 2016
forgiveness:


When I began to show you profile, you coolu down nau. Wait! I will soon prove it. Soon! grin

Messi is still not in the class of Pele and Maradona.
I knew it,
Another bombshell loading............
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:23am On Oct 04, 2016
forgiveness:



Pele, Maradona and.... grin
no,u have to complete the list. Pls Make it to top 10
.
My best players of all time are as follows in a particular order.-

1-Messi
2-Pele
3-Zidan
4-Maradona
5-Ronaldinho
6-C.Ronaldo
7-Ronaldo delima
8-Franz Beckenbauer
9-Michel Platini
10- Johan Cruyff
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:26am On Oct 04, 2016
Napoleon55:

I knew it,
Another bombshell loading............

It is a known bombshell. Pele is the greatest footballer ever while Maradona follows. Messi. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:27am On Oct 04, 2016
Napoleon55:
Rashidi,Ajagun,Solanke

Na you sabi. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:42am On Oct 04, 2016
**yawns** Unlike you... I don't argue blindly and endlessly. smiley

Believe what you wanna believe.... Na you get your mouth... Lolll... Adios wink



forgiveness:


E pain am! grin Record pass records.

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won AFCON best player of the tournament? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won highest goal scorer in League? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever won the highest goal scorer in a competition? grin

Has Kanu Nwankwo ever made AFCON team of the tournament?


Did Kanu Nwankwo qualify Nigeria to BIGGEST FIFA ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD which happens to be the WORLD CUP? grin

Did Kanu Nwankwo ever scored in FIFA BIGGEST ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD(not Europe or unrecognised Olympics for U23 TATAS)? grin
Now, this is making sense. grin

Are these not records and truths in the beautiful game of football?

Indomie noodles generations will never rewrite the history of Nigerian football. Sorry. grin

No, 1 Rashidi Yekini, no 2, grin

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