KingEbukasBlog:


Uruguay shifted to a democratic system in 2009 before Jose was elected in 2010 . Jose Mujica is not a communist leader but a democratic one but the communist leaders who killed did so because of atheism .

Ebukas you are a simple minded individual. What's your argument now? So you're saying if José mujica was a communist leader he would have killed, but since he's a Democratic leader, NO killing. But with this your argument shouldn't communism be blamed rather than atheism.
The worst type of fool is an educated one. For he sees but rejects reason.

KingEbukasBlog:


Because all written has been countered before , you are simply obdurate about your weak arguments that's all

One good example is this thread proving that atheists indeed killed because of atheism , and your responses on this thread have been off topic ==>https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because/


Here are other examples , this time on morality

Some atheists here agreed that bestiality is right and those who said it was wrong could not give a reasonable reason -> https://www.nairaland.com/3246878/nairaland-atheists-bestiality-right-wrong

Same thing with incest -> https://www.nairaland.com/3202859/nairaland-atheists-incest-right-wrong

Here is a thread proving that numerous atheists have murderous tendencies ->https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

Like I always tell you , you cant claim you have morality when you agree there is no good or evil . And if you say something is good or evil you have no cogent reason to support your stance .

This is patently false @ the bolded. Morality predates religion. You don't need to believe in a god to be moral. Even species like bonobos shows are certain degree of altruism among themselves.

Bandeco:

This is patently false @ the bolded. Morality predates religion. You don't need to believe in a god to be moral. Even species like bonobos shows are certain degree of altruism among themselves.

Pls try and follow him up Notice him that sentence u marked @bolded? kingebukasblog will still make that assumption on another thread! no matter how much u correct him!

Nice thread

oneolajire:
Funny thread.

If there is no God, then no Satan, then no supernatural or spiritual powers.

Atheist believe in metaphysics, so disgusting that they believe so.

They are silent about the native cohorts of Ogun, Osun, Ifa, Amadioha, etc.

Their major aim is to fight the GOD OF THE CHRISTIAN. To make people live without Jesus as their saviour and later plunge them into occultism.

We have all seen your tricks.

There is no difference between the gods of ogun and the christian gods. What did you think the Ark of Covenant of the ancient Israelis was? The same box you are not allowed to touch,otherwise it will shock you to death....same as the you not being allowed to enter and touch the c=shrine of ogun. The Israelis Ark of Covenant was guarded by priests who were trained by the gods to manipulate the Ark of Covenant,same as the Ogun priest knows what to touch and not to touch. Same tools they all use for the same ritual. Only that the Africans are still doing thiers.

The god of the Christians? Or you mean the "many" gods of the Christians.

Metaphysics is about understanding how thought energy works and how the ancient manipulated energy make their lives easy. Nothing to do with a god or gods. The ancient actually called them gods due to advanced technology.

Besides Jesus isn't your savior.. you can only enhance your mindset and then you have been saved.

KingEbukasBlog:


Uruguay shifted to a democratic system in 2009 before Jose was elected in 2010 . Jose Mujica is not a communist leader but a democratic one but the communist leaders who killed did so because of atheism .

What is this one saying? Are you not now confirming that the problem is communism and not atheism?

JackBizzle:



What is this one saying? Are you not now confirming that the problem is communism and not atheism?

I have been watching that guy, he always contradicts himself.

JackBizzle:

What is this one saying? Are you not now confirming that the problem is communism and not atheism?

Hahahahahahahahaha

It is finished

winner01:
This is a nice thread full of repititions, I wish I could reply the whole thing but ill probably edit this post later.

[size=15pt]As for government imposed atheism, seems to me like what most atheists would do in their quest to see religion vanish forever, should they get to power.[/size]

I gave a list of 97% of the atheist presidents who have ever existed, when you debunk that, then we may see this point as valid.

https://www.nairaland.com/3232176/atheist-presidents-heads-state-quick

Just look at the ridiculous nonsense you wrote in bold. How do you know that most atheist would impose state-forced atheism if they became leaders?

Just looking at your list of atheist presidents, you have enough lies there- some of the presidents there were not atheist. You can lie


1) Plutarco Elías Calles was not an atheist, he just hated the catholic church

2) Manuel Azana was not an atheist

I dont have time to go through your list. In summary, please correct your notion that most atheists have the tendency to be genocidal tyrants.

I noticed how you dodged the issue of Jose Mujica

CeoMYN:

I have been watching that guy, he always contradicts himself.

Don't mind the guy. He thinks he is smart with all the big words he normally blows.

hopefulLandlord:


Hahahahahahahahaha

It is finished

I swear. I wish more people tackle him hard like I do.

JackBizzle:


I swear. I wish more people tackle him hard like I do.

He would think deep, google and google then find new ways to wiggle out of this

Trust me


Anyways, any of f these "Christians" can tell me any "Christian" thesist President as humble, incorrupt, easy going and simple as Mujica

I'm sure they wish he were Christian right now

hopefulLandlord:


He would think deep, google and google then find new ways to wiggle out of this

Trust me


Anyways, any of f these "Christians" can tell me any "Christian" thesist President as humble, incorrupt, easy going and simple as Mujica

I'm sure they wish he were Christian right now

I can understand ignorant christians who attack atheism out of ignorance
I can understand intelligent christians who follow their religion and don't bother others with it.


However, i cannot understand intelligent christians like KingEbukasblog who lie and twist for the religion. KingEbuka knows that he is lying and so I wonder how his mind works. He understands that his religion is mythical but yet, he must stick it to the atheists. Why defend something that you know is dubious? why?

JackBizzle:



What is this one saying? Are you not now confirming that the problem is communism and not atheism?

You mentioned President Jose in a bid to extricate yourself out of this . President Jose didn't rule under a communist government so his belief as an atheist is irrelevant since he was a democratic President .

But the communist governments and their atheist leaders who have pledged allegiance to the Marxist-Leninist ideology , kill because atheism is its animus . There is no communism without atheism . The unbelief in God -atheism - instigated the whole ideology , it is its animus . Why do you think being an atheist is a prerequisite of becoming a member a communist party ?E.g In China . That disbelief in God is the drive that keeps them going so they can achieve their 'socialist paradise' , so if anyone contravenes , they are killed or jailed .

The 'socialist paradise' cannot be achieved if the belief in God exists , that's why atheism is imposed - more like 'reject God or die , we have a vision and you as God believers are encumbrances ' .

Bro , I don tire abeg .

If you can't understand this thread , I don't know how to help oo : https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Its now obvious you are being disingenuous , as simple as that .

I didn't even add how evolution was also used to brainwash citizens into thinking their leaders we doing the right thing killing their religious friends .

KingEbukasBlog:


You mentioned President Jose in a bid to extricate yourself out of this . President Jose didn't rule under a communist government so his belief as an atheist is irrelevant since he was a democratic President .

But the communist governments and their atheist leaders who have pledged allegiance to the Marxist-Leninist ideology , kill because atheism is its animus . There is no communism without atheism . The unbelief in God -atheism - instigated the whole ideology , it is its animus . Why do you think being an atheist is a prerequisite of becoming a member a communist party ?E.g In China . That disbelief in God is the drive that keeps them going so they can achieve their 'socialist paradise' , so if anyone contravenes , they are killed or jailed .

The 'socialist paradise' cannot be achieved if the belief in God exists , that's why atheism is imposed - more like 'reject God or die , we have a vision and you as God believers are encumbrances ' .

Bro , I don tire abeg .

If you can't understand this thread , I don't know how to help oo : https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Its now obvious you are being disingenuous , as simple as that .

I didn't even add how evolution was also used to brainwash citizens into thinking their leaders we doing the right thing killing their religious friends .

Atheism existed thousands of years before communism. Let that sink into your head.


But then again, you are either too dull or too dubious to admit that you are talking nonsense. How can you say that there is no communism without atheism? Apparently, you have never heard of christian communism and islamic socialism.


I can't take you seriously.

JackBizzle:


Don't mind the guy. He thinks he is smart with all the big words he normally blows.

JackBizzle:



Atheism existed thousands of years before communism. Let that sink into your head.


But then again, you are either too dull or too dubious to admit that you are talking nonsense. How can you say that there is no communism without atheism? Apparently, you have never heard of christian communism and islamic socialism.


I can't take you seriously.

Your ignorance on the subject is pathetic bro . Christian communism is a misnomer , its actually called communualism . They reject some parts of Marxism and only agree to the economic benefits of communism , the same with Islamic communism . Can't you see they attached the religion's name ? . They are simply rejecting the foundation which is atheism and attaching a theological root . Plus is there any such thing atheistic communism ? When will you ever have sense bro?

JackBizzle:


I can understand ignorant christians who attack atheism out of ignorance
I can understand intelligent christians who follow their religion and don't bother others with it.


However, i cannot understand intelligent christians like KingEbukasblog who lie and twist for the religion. KingEbuka knows that he is lying and so I wonder how his mind works. He understands that his religion is mythical but yet, he must stick it to the atheists. Why defend something that you know is dubious? why?

Oh bro ,

You have problems with religion not God

JackBizzle:



Hmmm........that's an interesting thought. Do you have any specific examples of atheist cults?

LaVeyan Satanism

KingEbukasBlog:


Your ignorance on the subject is pathetic bro . Christian communism is a misnomer , its actually called communualism . They reject some parts of Marxism and only agree to the economic benefits of communism , the same with Islamic communism . Can't you see they attached the religion's name ? . They are simply rejecting the foundation which is atheism and attaching a theological root . Plus is there any such thing atheistic communism ? When will you ever have sense bro?

You said that there was no communism without atheism. That is a lie. All I'm seeing you do is twist and turn. There are christian communists and they call themselves communists.


See how you fall with all your lies?

This is how you catch Kingebuka! Always hold your trump card till the last moment.

KingEbukasBlog:


Oh bro ,

You have problems with religion not God

I don't have such problems. You on the other hand, are a liar for Jesus.

Swerve, bro!

WORLDPEACE:

Reasons Why Atheism Looks Like A Religion
1. The fact that many Atheists are puzzled that the other side does not share their beliefs when the 'fact' is supposed to be obvious to all. That is subjectivity. This is exactly how the minds of religious people work.

I personally wouldn't say "supposed to be". Certain thought processes have to happen for a person to go from religiosity to atheism, and I recognize that those can happen at different times for different people (or not happen at all) based on their experiences (like exposure to ideas that contradict those of their religion) and emotional tendencies (like whether curiosity or aversive anxiety prevails when faced with said ideas), which differ from my own.

So I certainly don't expect it to be obvious for many people; especially those in societies where 1.) religion is all they hear & see, or 2.) where questioning could result in dire consequences (like social ostracization, death, or "hell" ) which discourages them from doing so.

2. The obsessive need to proselytize by some atheist can begin to look like they were given the commission to do so by a higher power. This is what the very religious do.

This is based on the premise that talking about a topic frequently/with intensity is something only religiously motivated people do. Which I think is kind of nonsensical given the literal millions of topics & ideas that people discuss solely because they see value in them, and find them beneficial or necessary to share.

Also, in the case that atheism were correct and religion was indeed just the result of generations upon generations of mind-control, it wouldn't make any sense for atheists to be silent on the matter. Religion has obviously had an enormous impact on humanity and our collective consciousness. If more and more people started to come to new conclusions about it (like, "maybe this isn't an accurate framework from which to view our lives & the nature of the universe" ), that would inevitably mean a huge change in the way we think and behave as human beings. It's an important conversation to have because the implications are huge.

3. The self-righteousness of some. The "we are not like them who have done this and that" expressions. It's like watching christians and Muslims go at one another.

When I see an atheist that behaves in a belittling way towards theists (& I've been both the reciever, back when I was Christian, and the giver as an atheist), I don't think it's motivated by self-righteousness, but rather frustration, annoyance, or anger at repeatedly running into the same bad arguments and ignorant comments.

This differs from religious people who might be more likely to belittle from a place of legitimate self-riteousness, because religious books literally tell them they are better and more valuable than people of other religions or no religion.

As for the atheists who do feel they're better than other people because they're atheist, I think they're just not seeing the bigger picture. Like I said earlier, there are a lot of factors that play into maintaining or dissolving a person's religiosity. It's not a matter of someone being better than someone else, just differing thinking processes & psychological/emotional barriers.

4. The "Scientists say" prefix every time Atheists want to make an important point often reminds one of "My Pastor says" or the "Qur'an says" which basically means that that "greater mind's" views overrules yours and everybody else's. This too is the stuff religion is made of.

This would be a valid equivelence if science were like religion in that way - a solid body of ideas that were decided upon in the past and claim to contain the ultimate, unchangeable truth. Religion is all about preserving a certain set of beliefs that someone 2,000 or so years ago created/wrote down/prophecied/etc. What makes religious/dogmatic thinking bad is simply that it's resistant to change in the face of new evidence, and therefore more prone to error.

Science by it's very nature is the complete opposite though. Science welcomes change as long as it gets us closer to a good answer. It's a body of consistently transforming knowledge - not a rigid dogma. There is no "ultimate entity that decide's what's true and no one can question him/her/it". Scientists who hold steadfast to their theories despite evidence to the contrary quickly get left behind. Scientists who get some things right but others wrong are praised for their good ideas (those that stood the test of time with consistent supporting evidence), while their incorrect ideas are left behind.

An easy illustration of the necessarily self-correcting nature of science is computers. The scientific theories that enabled the creation of the very first computer (& the successive improved variations thereafter) differed in many ways from those that were held as true, say, 500 years prior to the invention (theories of physics, chemistry, electricity, etc that were unheard of 500 years ago, or, ironically enough, attributed to supernatural forces that could never be explained by humans). If science was like religion (dogmatic, rigid, and unchanging), computers could have never have been invented, because the ideas that enabled us to create things like circuit boards & LCD monitors, would not have been discovered if scientists were committed to maintaining the old theories despite new evidence. In science, ideas must be open to change to stay relevent and useful.

Religions on the other hand tend to stay more or less the same regardless of what new knowledge is obtained, because religious people are invested in keeping it so (often for emotional, psychological, societal, reasons -- which have little if anything to do with the actual validity of the ideas expressed in the religion).

I acknowledge that there are some people who might rigidly & dogmatically adhere to a scientific view - no one is immune from bias. But anyone can look up research for themselves (or even do their own experiment) that validates or invalidates a certain claim. From a truly scientific perspective no one has to believe a idea just because someone else said so (or because they'll go to hell if they don't).

JackBizzle:


Oh....we have an atheist whisperer here!
This christian can sniff out atheism!
BEWARE!!!!

What exactly is this one talking about??
You just sounded as if you were insane!!

Bandeco:

This is patently false @ the bolded. Morality predates religion. You don't need to believe in a god to be moral. Even species like bonobos shows are certain degree of altruism among themselves.

Please, I don't really know what you are arguing about. But, I know it won't be atheism.

Where morality predates religion or not is never the case.

Atheism is a DISBELIEF in the existence of God or gods. Not religion!

Besides, can you tell me how one can have good morals when he doesn't believe that good or evil exists?? Tell me more!

Am zambia in zambia.how do i meet satanists or how do i join?becoz i hav tried n tried,i cnt meet any.

promise101:


Besides, can you tell me how one can have good morals when he doesn't believe that good or evil exists?? Tell me more!

Tank me later https://www.nairaland.com/3290033/being-good-without-god

promise101:

Please, I don't really know what you are arguing about. But, I know it won't be atheism.

Where morality predates religion or not is never the case.

Atheism is a DISBELIEF in the existence of God or gods. Not religion!

Besides, can you tell me how one can have good morals when he doesn't believe that good or evil exists?? Tell me more!

Who told you that atheists don't believe in good or evil?

EyeHateGod:

Tank me later https://www.nairaland.com/3290033/being-good-without-god

did the nigga even read it?

JackBizzle:


did the nigga even read it?

it's my thread!

CAPSLOCKED:

stop being ignorant,am an agnostic but some this meme you guys pose doesn't make sense,there tens of thousands of war in history that are not about religion,ww1 &ww2 are examples

EyeHateGod:

it's my thread!

I know

cloudgoddess

I personally wouldn't say "supposed to be".

It's good you spoke for yourself here. You don't have to leave nairaland to see what I am saying. Religious people often defend their faith by painting a picture of the ideal as opposed to what is prevalent.

This is based on the premise that talking about a topic frequently/with intensity is something only religiously motivated people do.

Religious, obsessive and insane people do. When a person goes on and on about something every single day, chirping like a bird, it can be sickening, repulsive and counterproductive. A little knowledge of psychology should tell us that you don't necessarily get a point across by repeating it every single day. Sometimes just showing people that you are a well rounded person having other interests could make a person want to listen to you when you talk. But if it's a divine command you are heeding you've got to do it like the lord says, right?

Science by it's very nature is the complete opposite though. Science welcomes change as long as it gets us closer to a good answer. It's a body of consistently transforming knowledge - not a rigid dogma.

Science can't be wrong. Scientists can be wrong. Whenever science was wrong there was something unscientific done by a "scientist". Because he is a human being he is prone to what everyone of us is prone to; bias, prejudice, glory seeking, groupthink and so on. Giving too much weight to what scientists say is like conferring on them infallibility like people do the Vatican and pope.