Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by happney65: 3:43pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:
Against their own son in 99? Is olu falae hausa then? Aside the corenorth, everyone voted massively for Johnathan And who did Yoruba's vote for in 2011?Chuba Okadigbo i guess? |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by vani86: 3:46pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
OmoAjowa7:
What betrayal are you talking about? Who follow una sign document?
Na shukuokikedaberu go puni... you and "southerners".
Dem born us join una? Do we have to vote who y'all vote? Who dey follow una do tag team?
I bought ice cream with my money, you bought kunu. You dey tell me say why I no buy kunu
Gtfoh!
Nigger you make Zero point/sense. You cant even make a contructive argument, the person you are arguing with give glaring points while yours is ice cream buhahhahahaha. The earlier you hide the better 8 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by guiddoti: 3:52pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
SharkTank:
Yoruba hadn't betrayed the ss when Ezeoke and Okadigbo were running mates. Now there is a new and emerging power bloc - the se/ss. And Yoruba will rip the consequence of their betrayal. All we need to do is get a part of middle belt that has a natural affiliation to the South eg Kogi, Benue, plateau, nasarawa and the Yoruba vote wouldn't matter because it is naturally worthless - always split half like how APC and PDP shared it 60 - 40 in the last election power bloc- SS/SE? You think SS will not betray SE? Another joke. |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by bbjummy: 3:55pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
APC!! ON THE MARCH AGAIN!!! My people from the west are now on crossroads!!! E go beta |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Mufasa27(m): 3:56pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
anigbajumo: [b]
Those who are never a progressive for once now coming out as part of progressive demonstrating a fake sympathy.
It is a shame that most people fall for FFK speculation where he pointed out 3cabals,that is where people are getting it wrong.Going by the body language nd Tinubu's speech yesterday, am still yet to see any chaos between him nd PMB.A lot of decision has been going on in the party that Mr President don't play the vital role as expected just like selection of the NASS leader. Oyegun took decision independently without the notice of PMB or BAT.
Ever since FFK published a junk speculation about the state of APC/Tinubu a lot of writers nd media are just yearning gibberish here and there.
Buch of joker's,they were expecting Tinubu to romance with them or float a new party, keep on dreaming. No reasonable politician will dismantle the institution that took his wealth, time,influence nd life to built b4 it succeed.
Let wait nd see what will happen next but PMB will ever dare to fight Tinubu at this early moment.
[/b] Oga never trust an aboki, those guys are insane and that's one lesson Mr. Tinubu never learnt!! 2 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by SharkTank(m): 3:57pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
guiddoti: power bloc- SS/SE? You think SS will not betray SE? Another joke. Betrayal is a an Afonja trait. You guys are born traitors 7 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by wellmax(m): 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
OreMI22: Again Tinubu has been used, once more Tinubu has been dumped. ...and guess what, Tinubu is still their nemesis. He is still the greatest in Nigeria politics as at today. |
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Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by OrlandoOwoh(m): 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
izombie: @seun. I read this piece with open mind. I admire tinubu alot but i was very surprised that tinubu aligned with buhari in the first instance. I know he's trying to expand his influence beyond south west but aligning himself with the north without taking thinking about how awolowo was used and dumped by the north. Tinubu and the yorubas as a whole should apologise to the rest of south for joining the north. I stand for biafra but i would also stand for a nigeria where the south south,south east and the south west would stand together and fight this scourge called north. My only issue is whether the yorubas can be trusted. Give me one example of where Awolowo was used and dumped by the North. 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by guiddoti: 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
SharkTank:
Betrayal is a an Afonja trait. You guys are born traitors haha SS can't trust SE. Ijaws, Itsekiris, Kalabaris, Opobos, Ogonis, Okrikas, Efiks etc don't trust Kembas |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by SharkTank(m): 4:08pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
guiddoti: haha SS can't trust SE. Ijaws, Itsekiris, Kalabaris, Opobos, Ogonis, Okrikas, Efiks etc don't trust Kembas My enemy's enemy is my friend. Yoruba people don't understand loyalty, as in the place in people's brain that contain loyalty isn't in a typical Afonja brain, thats why if you tell em about it, they dont understand. 4 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by kjhova(m): 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
plaetton: Everyone is busy speculating about the political calculus of 2019, but few are speculating about the economic conditions of 2019. What will be the price of garri , bread, milk and rice by 2019? Will people start eating rats and lizards for protein ? These are the important questions that should occupy our minds.
It's really ironic how the ordinary folks bicker and fight among themselves about which BIGMAN should occupy ASO Rock and enjoy a N2b feeding budget while they, the ordinary folks are condemned to feed on rats and lizards.
As it was in the 1960s, so it is today. Same politics. In another 100 yrs, it will remain the same politics. All politics, no progress.
Unless power is devolved at the center, and we have regional autonomy, we will continue to go in circles for another 1000 years. You hit bull's eye with this your post, man. The mass is always caught up in the fascination of the power games while totally forgeting their own needs and even desperation. However, I have heard a lot about this devolution of power at the centre thing but I still don't know how exactly the proponents propose to make it work. Are we to devolve current exclusion list to the existing 36 states or are we to abolish the 36 states and create fewer regions in their place? Who will do this? |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by andre82(m): 4:11pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
izombie: @seun. I read this piece with open mind. I admire tinubu alot but i was very surprised that tinubu aligned with buhari in the first instance. I know he's trying to expand his influence beyond south west but aligning himself with the north without taking thinking about how awolowo was used and dumped by the north. Tinubu and the yorubas as a whole should apologise to the rest of south for joining the north. I stand for biafra but i would also stand for a nigeria where the south south,south east and the south west would stand together and fight this scourge called north. My only issue is whether the yorubas can be trusted. Apologise to the rest of the south, which south? For what? Didn't you people have your anointed candidate in the name of GEJ, that you people gave full support? Why does everything have to be about you? What's your own in this one now? |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by emmasege: 4:16pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
seunmsg: All Tinubu needs to do is to start making plans to form another alliance that links truly progressive Northerners with those of the South-West, South-East and South-South. The possibility of that happening should give him a new fillip. At the very least, it would put him back into reckoning, ensuring he can only be ignored at great cost.
Femi Aribisala and his PDP principals can't even wait for Tinubu to declare that he's leaving APC before they start dangling the carrot of realignment to him. Like I once said before, those who intend to oppose Buhari in 2019 are already salivating at the prospect of an alignment with Tinubu. The rate at which former opponents and critics of Tinubu are falling over each other to support him shows clearly that they all admire and crave for his support from afar. The current crisis has opened the door for a possible realignment and it is left for the handlers of the President to handle the current rift in the party with care else, he may have himself to blame. And You think such alliance or re-alliance can happen in this autocratic regime? Such democratic freedom lapsed on 29 May 2015. 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by guiddoti: 4:16pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
SharkTank:
My enemy's enemy is my friend. Yoruba people don't understand loyalty, as in the place in people's brain that contain loyalty isn't in a typical Afonja brain, thats why if you tell em about it, they dont understand. There is no permanent friend and foe in politics. 1999 Yorubas supported Olu falaye over Obj. 2011 Yorubas supported Jonathan over Buhari. 2015 yorubas supported Buhari over Jonathan. Politics is a game of interest, so what is betrayal all about? |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by StarPlayer: 4:17pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
EasternActivist:
I know you got my point so stop trying to shift my point to get it weak where there is none...
When buhari choose those Igbo men, we have a southern president who are more competent. Igbo voted for competence against tribalism (obasanjo comes to mind) against hatred, partisanship and overall where first patriotic. This is not about love for Gej but the competency of Gej based on merit as against buhari (2011 elections)
Fast forward to 2015, the Yoruba's brought into our politics what they called sophistication which is founded on hatred, betrayal, partisan, tribalism all before patriotism.
We all know that Most of all this happening is not because of whether buhari is performing or not but selfishness and tribalism. If buhari and north should kick out tinubus fking ideas should that form the basis why the Yoruba's should term his administration a failure? That's bullcrap
Meanwhile Sw didn't vote out Gej as their votes where even divided as not all southwesterners (including those residing) are tinubu zombies or apc zombies.
Having said all this, if the sw won't continue staying loyal to buhari and his cohort and they (buhari and co) should turn eastwards for vp slot leaving osibanjo behind, the easterners will glady welcome them and apply the same politics as shun out by the Yoruba's in the last election and he shall win...
Go and ask the ottah farmer.
Foolish use and dumb hypocrites.
Mind you i'm from the NC but for you to openly bow before the north just to spite your southern neighbor is to say the least shameful and pathetic. I think you should go back and re read your post. This is the reason igbos are always being outsmarted in nigerian politics. You people work with sentiments instead of wisdom. Smh 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by SharkTank(m): 4:23pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
guiddoti: There is no permanent friend and foe in politics. 1999 Yorubas supported Olu falaye over Obj. 2011 Yorubas supported Jonathan over Buhari. 2015 yorubas supported Buhari over Jonathan. Politics is a game of interest, so what is betrayal all about? There are no permanent friends in politics you say. Hausa - Fulani bond nko? Or you think they are the same tribe? The North west - North east bond nko? That "no permanent friend in politics" mantra Yoruba are always chanting is just an excuse to be sleezy green snakes under green grass. You guys took it too far this time 5 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Hope15: 4:26pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
It's apparent PMB is not interested in 2nd term going by his stubborness and this open treachery against BAT. The SW is, of course, currently painfully licking its wounds.............it would soon be 2019. kalokalo: I don't see Buhari winning the election in 2019. He definitely won't get the SE and SS votes. Those on ground in the SW will tell you that there is growing widespread disillusionment with Buhari in the region akin to how Jonathan lost their good will. He better retrace his steps as he doesn't have anyone with the clout of Tinubu that can sell him in the SW. He was a bad product that was transformed by the media into a sellable candidate. A media controlled by the SW.
His abysmal handling of the fulani herdsmen recurring saga has cost him goodwill in the NC which will cost him votes there in 2019.
So the question is how does he hope to win in 2019 without the SW or Tinubu? If history is anything to go by, the SW will betray Buhari in 2019. I expect Tinubu to foresee this going by the political pulse on the ground.
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Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by MONITZ: 4:27pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
Forwetinnah: That one concern una...this isnt the time to rally around a man who puts his personal interest first before the collective interest of his people. This isn't the first time Tinubu's greed has backfired on him..i have more interesting people to think of rallying 'around'. Everybody hansa ya papa name...SS and SE make una face front o let the SW handle their mess Funny u, u be real area, bt for real it's not good to trample on a man who is already down esp wen u know that the person is capable of bouncing back. N. B: methinks the result of the last elections brought about the synergy and political marriage between the South -south and the South -east being experienced presently. 2 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by emmasege: 4:28pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
seunmsg:
Okadigbo and Ume-Ezeoke were his running mate in the 2003 and 2007 elections, we know the outcome. yoruba's supported GEJ in 2011 because we believed he would be a departure from the past. He failed to deliver and we voted him out. Again in 2015, we supported Buhari because he presented himself as a change agent and someone who will fight and stop the mindless corruption that took place under GEJ. So far so good, we are still observing his government. If we find any reason not to support him in 2019, we will definitely withdraw our support and vote for another candidate that appeals to us. It has nothing to do with hatred, tribalism or partisanship. You Ibos can vote base on hatred, tribalism and partisanship but not we Yoruba's. We are guided strictly by patriotism and national interest. Can You speak for yourself, man? I'm Yoruba, didn't vote for him in 2015 because I couldn't see him as a better alternative to GEJ. He only succeeded in 2015 because this time around, opposition was able to gain upper hand in the rigging process and control of the electoral body, thanks to GEJ's goodwill and Asiwaju's scheming abilities. There was never an election in 2015 just as there hadn't been in the previous. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by guiddoti: 4:29pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
SharkTank:
There are no permanent friends in politics you say. Hausa - Fulani bond nko? Or you think they are the same tribe? The North west - North east bond nko? That "no permanent friend in politics" mantra Yoruba are always chanting is just an excuse to be sleezy green snakes under green grass. You guys took it too far this time how? for not supporting Jonathan? why didn't Igbo's supported Okadigbo campaign in 2003 elections? you guys are pathetic. |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by dunkem21(m): 4:35pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
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Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by SharkTank(m): 4:35pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
guiddoti: how? for not supporting Jonathan? Yes. Exactly. Oui. Power is obsessive, Ask the North. You don't let someone test power only to snatch power out of their hands like that 2 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by seguno2: 4:36pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
happney65: And who did Yoruba's vote for in 2011?Chuba Okadigbo i guess? Which notable Yoruba person was on the 2011 ballot? 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by MrCEO69(m): 4:37pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
seunmsg:
See, how Ibos will vote in 2019 is not my business. All i know is that Yoruba's will always vote based on merit, patriotism, national interest and the dictates of the time. We voted against Buhari in 2011 despite the fact that Tunde Bakare was his running mate so, spare me the crap about tribal voting. If you guys want to do tribal voting in 2019, please go ahead but stop trying desperately to use the Yoruba's as an excuse for your voting pattern. remember that obj and pdp where still much at play then! So dis ur statement dnt hold water in dis case. 2 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by guiddoti: 4:37pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
SharkTank:
Yes. Exactly. Oui. Power is obsessive, Ask the North. You don't let someone test power only to snatch power out of their hands like that When I don't share your ideology, I should support you, right? |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Syogbe(m): 4:39pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
There was nothing bad to realign with the north at that time. If Buhari is not good as a leader with what he passed through, his experience, age, we can hardly trust any person from the north. Morally, it was the turn of the North, that was why the majority of the West support the north against Jonathan who was too laisser-faire. Maybe Atiku or Kwankwanso could have been better, I do not know. Point of correction, Awolowo was never used and dumped, read your history very well. It is those who were benefiting from the large scale corruption supervised by Jonathan that wanted him to be there for life. SE, SS and SW will never align because you cannot align with somebody who hate you. SE & SS do not like Yoruba. When Awolowo formed alliance with Mike Okpara, majority of the Igbo went with the North. SE & SS have always aligned with the north at our own expense. During the First coup, Agu Ironsi framed Colonel Banjo as part of the coupists even when it was glaring that he was not part of them , he failed to release him and Ojukwu finally killed him despite the fact that he begged this man to stay behind to help him prosecute the war. Ademoyegun managed to escape to Ibadan. The Yoruba are very trust worthy arguably the most trustworthy ethnic group in Nigeria but can easily read between the lines and know when to retreat or move forward. 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Syogbe(m): 4:42pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
emmasege: Can You speak for yourself, man? I'm Yoruba, didn't vote for him in 2015 because I couldn't see him as a better alternative to GEJ. He only succeeded in 2015 because this time around, opposition was able to gain upper hand in the rigging process and control of the electoral body, thanks to GEJ's goodwill and Asiwaju's scheming abilities. There was never an election in 2015 just as there hadn't been in the previous. 2 Likes |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Royals1st: 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
omofunaab: It's like femi aribisala and femi fani kayode are both related.
Anyway to the topic, i agree with femi aribisala on certain points. The reason why yorubas must support tinubu is because tinubu will protect the interest of south west more than buhari or anybody from the north. This is a man that has been holding the south west together since 2011 or thereabout. Now some elements are seeking to cut him into size.
People think tinubu is a wicked man, but i think he is the victim here.
I hear amosun is part of the gang up, if that's true then amosun is an ingrate.
In 2011, prior to the governorship election in ogun state, former governor osoba almost frustrated amosun out of the then ACN, because osoba was still nursing old wounds about his 2003 election loss to gbenga Daniel in which amosun played a major role in his defeat
But tinubu ensured amosun picked the ticket as against opposition from many people in the party, because they believed amosun was a newcomer. But tinubu believed in amosun that he was the right man for the job.
2015 again, osoba struck again, both amosun and osoba fought for the control of Apc in the state. With tinubu's backing , amosun was able to control the party structure in the state. Osoba eventually left the party for amosun. Despite the fact that osoba was tinubu longtime ally.
So, if amosun is part of the gang up, then he is an ingrate.
I stand with Asiwaju on this
Amosun is a mothefurker and very local with that is local cap |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by BIDOO(m): 4:48pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
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Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Royals1st: 4:50pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
seunmsg:
Okadigbo and Ume-Ezeoke were his running mate in the 2003 and 2007 elections, we know the outcome. yoruba's supported GEJ in 2011 because we believed he would be a departure from the past. He failed to deliver and we voted him out. Again in 2015, we supported Buhari because he presented himself as a change agent and someone who will fight and stop the mindless corruption that took place under GEJ. So far so good, we are still observing his government. If we find any reason not to support him in 2019, we will definitely withdraw our support and vote for another candidate that appeals to us. It has nothing to do with hatred, tribalism or partisanship. You Ibos can vote base on hatred, tribalism and partisanship but not we Yoruba's. We are guided strictly by patriotism and national interest. My brother no body need ur vote come 2019 u can see that INEC is bleeped they are control by PMB so no need for u to stress ur self voting 2019 we already know what will happen no one can win as long as the same set of INEC who handle edo elct is still active 1 Like |
Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by Charly68: 4:56pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
Ok now,it is now Tiwa ni Tiwa battle affairs.. Yoruba! Yoruba!! Here comes the age long unity forum that we have been clamouring for. 2019 battle has started already & may God see us through. 1 Like |