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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phamarsenal: 8:36pm On Oct 05, 2016
I doubt even whether musa would start, I would like to see moses simon play in his place, with him and d likes of nacho and iwobi wwe HV pple DAT can take and mk quick descisons on what to do with d final ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:58pm On Oct 05, 2016
lakesidepapa:


With this Line up, then it shall be 4-2-3-1?

............Nacho
Simon. Iwobi. Ideye

I stand to be corrected


The forwards line may take this shape:

...........Iheanacho

Simon....Iwobi....Musa

(hmm..such a youthful forwards line with very pacey players)

Ideye may come in if we need to switch to 4-4-2.
He will partner with Iheanacho upfront.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:00pm On Oct 05, 2016
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/17252/super-eagles/2016/10/05/28184982/nff-dont-have-funds-to-prosecute-zambia-game-says-amaju?ICID=HP_HN_3
Then there's this. Author seemed to be in a lot of rush. BTW, isn't NFF meant to be 'autonomous'?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:14pm On Oct 05, 2016
Icon4s:


Is it the same Brown Aide Ideye or another?

Abegi, i am not always moved by all these flash in the pan players. We have tried for Ideye abeg. After several recycling? On that day now, he will not even have one shot at goal.

Iheanacho should lead the attack.

I agree but that is on the coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:15pm On Oct 05, 2016
lakesidepapa:


With this Line up, then it shall be 4-2-3-1?

............Nacho
Simon. Iwobi. Ideye

I stand to be corrected


I don't think this positioning is workable.

I will prefer Ideye replacing Nacho, Iwobi taking the position of Ideye and Nacho playing behind Ideye.

This pattern has been put to test against Luxembourg and it worked.

I hope they will not do try and error for dis game oooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:22pm On Oct 05, 2016
I think I am beginning to panic because of too much in experience young talents against an experienced African team.

Rohr should not use only small boys for dat game oooo.

He should look for better player at the right back and use experienced players in the midfield and attack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:59pm On Oct 05, 2016
forgiveness:
I think I am beginning to panic because of too much in experience young talents against an experienced African team.

Rohr should not use only small boys for dat game oooo.

He should look for better player at the right back and use experienced players in the midfield and attack.
which one is experience and inexperience?

How much experience did the likes of Onazi, V Moses, Mba, Musa, Oboabona and Omeruo have before they beat the likes of Keita of Mali and Toure them to AFCON?

Considering our inexperienced players are not more than 5; Nacho, Moses, Iwobi, Troost and Isaac, I doubt we'll have problems.

Besides, if we don't try the young ones at Qualifiers, is it at the mundial proper that we'll use them?

Now is as good a time as any to test our golden generation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:11pm On Oct 05, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Ideye has been carrying the Greek giants all year, i am sure he will be given the chance to lead the line.

Ideye can play up front, Yes but i doubt the german tactician will place him thr if he starts him, I'll prefer him at the flanks as he's capable to cut egde and has the energy like the isaac own.

This will give Iwobi the room to play at the center behind the up frontier as he's deadliest thr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:22pm On Oct 05, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I was only re-arranging your front four....

I don't see how Ideye will start in any other position than in the no.9 role.... (That's if he will start at all).

And I don't see Rohr playing Nacho from the flanks... Nacho is much deadlier through the middle... So that may shift Iwobi a bit out-wide...

But ofcos, iwobi and Nacho could always switch positions to confound the opponents depending on game situations... They are both capable of doing such as I witnessed some synergy and chemistry between them onfield when they took on luxembourg.


No one ask Nacho to play from the flank, he should shall play up front ahead of Iwobi, he might not score but it will be an asset there, yes it will be deadlier with the tricky interchange btw him and iwobi to the zambian defense at the that middle. None of them shall play from the flanks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:26pm On Oct 05, 2016
Icon4s:

The forwards line may take this shape:
...........Iheanacho
Simon....Iwobi....Musa
(hmm..such a youthful forwards line with very pacey players)
Ideye may come in if we need to switch to 4-4-2. He will partner with Iheanacho upfront.

Still good but I don't trust Musa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:34pm On Oct 05, 2016
forgiveness:


I don't think this positioning is workable.

I will prefer Ideye replacing Nacho, Iwobi taking the position of Ideye and Nacho playing behind Ideye.

This pattern has been put to test against Luxembourg and it worked.

I hope they will not do try and error for dis game oooo.


It's workable sir. Ideye is good up front but he can't do better. He can play very well front the flanks.

I'll also like to see Iwobi operating from the middle, flinging those passes left and right smiley inter-changing passes with nacho with tricky position to unlock the zambian defense, chai I smell penalty theresmiley Holy Ghost fire.!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:41pm On Oct 05, 2016
lakesidepapa:


Ideye can play up front, Yes but i doubt the german tactician will place him thr if he starts him, I'll prefer him at the flanks as he's capable to cut egde and has the energy like the isaac own.

This will give Iwobi the room to play at the center behind the up frontier as he's deadliest thr.

I doubt the coach starts him on the wings. He is a like 4 like sub for Ighalo. In between his last call he has scored 5 goals, i don't see anything wrong with starting him and benefiting from his scoring form that he is on. Why play him on the wing when we already have good wingers?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by robosky02(m): 10:49pm On Oct 05, 2016
safarigirl:
which one is experience and inexperience?

How much experience did the likes of Onazi, V Moses, Mba, Musa, Oboabona and Omeruo have before they beat the likes of Keita of Mali and Toure them to AFCON?

Considering our inexperienced players are not more than 5; Nacho, Moses, Iwobi, Troost and Isaac, I doubt we'll have problems.

Besides, if we don't try the young ones at Qualifiers, is it at the mundial proper that we'll use them?

Now is as good a time as any to test our golden generation


in Timayas voice I concur cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:51pm On Oct 05, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


I doubt the coach starts him on the wings. He is a like 4 like sub for Ighalo. In between his last call he has scored 5 goals, i don't see anything wrong with starting him and benefiting from his scoring form that he is on. Why play him on the wing when we already have good wingers?

Simon is decent but musa has no brain, pacy player with out brain. This is where Ideye comes in, he can do better and decent job from the flanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:08pm On Oct 05, 2016
lakesidepapa:


Simon is decent but musa has no brain, pacy player with out brain. This is where Ideye comes in, he can do better and decent job from the flanks

Musa is not a winger, not in Nigeria, Russia or England but his speed is something u can't teach. I am almost sure Simon starts becos the coach went out of his way to make sure he would make it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18pm On Oct 05, 2016
Icon4s:


Well, it looks more likely that City will go shopping to fill that space.

That space is difficult to fill. We will buy someone, Guardiola wants Gundogan to play a creative attack role, so he will not play much there. If we get Dahoud, he will come cheap. His Contract expires at the end of this season. He rejected a new contract.

Still, we will need another. It is not just about this season but a long-term plan.

Guardiola had to convert Lahm to help because of his stamina.

I still see a space for Nwakali. Guardiola had Alonso and Lahm at Bayern. Aleix Garcia already played there. So definitely, Nwakali can make it.

If Guardiola was all buy, he would secure Aubameyang but he stuck to Nacho. Also, the age factor. Guardiola wants a young team. How many U21 midfielders are up to Nwakali's class. Difficult to find.

From the signings and targets, you will get the age range. Sane, Moreno, Gabriel Jesus, Hector Bellerin, Dahoud, Christensen, Grimaldo all under 21. Only Thorgan Hazard that is U23.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 11:31pm On Oct 05, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Musa is not a winger, not in Nigeria, Russia or England but his speed is something u can't teach. I am almost sure Simon starts becos the coach went out of his way to make sure he would make it.

So who's ur preferable players at the wings/flanks?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:51pm On Oct 05, 2016
ChrisKels:


My dear oo...!!

By the way, what would be your line up in Ndola after injuries have forced us to reshuffle? I would want Nacho to be cutting in from the RW, and Moses Simon LW, I would rather Iwobi started behind Ideye as the AMF and Mikel as CMF, would have loved a double pivot ( Ndidi and Onazi) because the Zambians are full of PACE but but due to Mikel's experience and influence both on and off the field, I would play Onazi as the only DMF if he wouldn't be running "upandan" while Ndidi benches. Then Omeruo would partner Ekong while Mohammed and Echiejile start from the right and left respectively. Ikeme man's the post.

I chose Ideye because he is a hustler upfront and can help destabilize the defense of the Zambians, allowing Iwobi and Nacho to pounce. I would like him an unsung hero. While the striking burdens be left on Simon, Iwobi and Nacho. Ideye can do well aerially.

Don't forget Iwobi shoots well, and with precision. Moses shoots well too. I just need all our strikers playing because a win away in the tough turf of Ndola will be a good way to start. Chances might be few.








I don't even know the players left, which other striker do we even have in the team besides Ideye? So for sure, was Aminu Umar invited? I am having doubts about this game but what you brought forward for me should be ok for the Zambians, it has stability in the form of Mikel and Iwobi but pace? well maybe short paces will do, we have scorers too so I maintain that it should be okay for Zambia Alone, but are we even sure that Mikel will play? God#!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:01am On Oct 06, 2016
lakesidepapa:


With this Line up, then it shall be 4-2-3-1?

............Nacho
Simon. Iwobi. Ideye

I stand to be corrected


this could work as a diamond formation, with Onazi as the base, Iwobi and Simon at the flanks.and Mikel behind the two strikers, this is what I feel we are going to play with Nacho dropping into midfield when we lose position to make it a 4-5-1. not sure but worth a thought
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:13am On Oct 06, 2016
lakesidepapa:


So who's ur preferable players at the wings/flanks?

Easy! Iwobi and Simon, they both can play either side it doesn't even matter they can also switch during the match and cause more problems. They can score but wat is more important is they can create and keep the pace of the game going.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:39am On Oct 06, 2016
Ndola will be hard.. It is not easy to play African teams away. The antics will begin immediately you arrive.

We have the quality to get a win though.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:32am On Oct 06, 2016
lakesidepapa:



Still good but I don't trust Musa.


So who else would you trust to play from that wing?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:42am On Oct 06, 2016
Mickael2:


this could work as a diamond formation, with Onazi as the base, Iwobi and Simon at the flanks.and Mikel behind the two strikers, this is what I feel we are going to play with Nacho dropping into midfield when we lose position to make it a 4-5-1. not sure but worth a thought

U mean some thing like this:

.............Ideye

Iwobi.....Mikel...Iheanacho.

I know Mikel can deliver from that position. But who takes over the CMF position.

And secondly Ideye to me is not good enough to spare head that attack.

I have a fear: The Ndola pitch! Iwobi plays sleek passes and does not run much. That may not often work on a bumpy pitch. So we will also need a running winger like Ahmed Musa for us to still get balls across to our striker(s). Simon is also a running winger.

I stick to my proposed formation:

.........Iheanacho

Simon...Iwobi...Musa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justiz5(m): 5:49am On Oct 06, 2016
I did love Ideye to play the No.9 role. That does not mean Kelechi is not good at that position. Rather,
Ideye's runs will take off the pressure from the shoulders of Nacho and may be A. Iwobi to express themselves. It will also create mores spaces at the opponent goal area for the duo to exploit.

Brown Ideye is strong, hard working and never gets tired. He contributes a lot to the team. So it's left for the Coach to decide any way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:05am On Oct 06, 2016
justiz5:
I did love Ideye to play the No.9 role. That does not mean Kelechi is not good at that position. Rather,
Ideye's runs will take off the pressure from the shoulders of Nacho and may be A. Iwobi to express themselves. It will also create mores spaces at the opponent goal area for the duo to exploit.

Brown Ideye is strong, hard working and never gets tired. He contributes a lot to the team. So it's left for the Coach to decide any way.

Well, I love the angle from which you look at it.
But we also need a very clinical finisher. Chances may be very few in the game. Ideye has a very woeful goals scoring record in the national team for a striker.
Well, thank God Salisu Yusuf is in the coaching crew. He knows those players better than Rohr.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 6:57am On Oct 06, 2016
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Nigeria's World Cup group worse than 'Group of Death' laments Pinnick
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Nigeria’s World Cup qualifying group is worse than ‘Group of Death’ according to the president of the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF).


The three-time African champions will have to go past Algeria, Cameroon and Zambia to qualify for a sixth World Cup.


“Nigeria have been drawn in a group beyond ‘Group of Death’,” said NFF boss Amaju Pinnick.


“Algeria are Africa’s leading team, Cameroon have won the African Cup of Nations four times and have featured at the World Cup seven times, and Zambia have also proved themselves.”


The Eagles, under a broke NFF, will begin the final stage of the 2018 World Cup qualifiers away in Zambia on Sunday.


Both teams last clashed at AFCON 2013 hosted by South Africa and it ended in a 1-1 draw.


In November, they will welcome Algeria to Uyo in continuation of the series.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 7:01am On Oct 06, 2016
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Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) Amaju Pinnick has revealed that barely days to Sunday’s World Cup qualifier against Zambia they are yet to pay for a chartered flight and hotel in Ndola.


Pinnick made this sensational disclosure to the senate sports committee on Tuesday.


He said NFF sponsors have not been forthcoming and this has forced them to apply for a government intervention but they are yet to get a response.


“We have a sound technical crew and our players are doing well, but the missing link is a financial incapacitation,” Pinnick disclosed.


“We have made arrangements for a chartered flight with Arik and have reserved 60 rooms in a new hotel which is just 10 minutes from the stadium in Ndola, but we have not paid for them.”


It has already been understood that the NFF travel agency has negotiated a $300,000 chartered flight to Zambia.


The NFF boss also confirmed that the country’s Europe-based stars were ordered to buy their flight tickets and fly economy to be join the training camp in Abuja for Sunday’s World Cup qualifier.


“We requested the players to fly economy and about 80% of them complied with this,” he said.


“We could not buy their tickets because we are already owing the travel agent about 300 million Naira.”
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 7:27am On Oct 06, 2016
Mickael2:


this could work as a diamond formation, with Onazi as the base, Iwobi and Simon at the flanks.and Mikel behind the two strikers, this is what I feel we are going to play with Nacho dropping into midfield when we lose position to make it a 4-5-1. not sure but worth a thought

With this ur preferable formation and selection, the pace up fronts will be limited, we need flanks who are capable to run and deliver the ball
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 7:29am On Oct 06, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Easy! Iwobi and Simon, they both can play either side it doesn't even matter they can also switch during the match and cause more problems. They can score but wat is more important is they can create and keep the pace of the game going.

I still don't like Iwobi playing from the flanks, Haha. But still good
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2016
tbaba1234:
Ndola will be hard.. It is not easy to play African teams away. The antics will begin immediately you arrive.

We have the quality to get a win though.

It will be good, Kenya played dram with the Zambian team at the same Ndola
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:34am On Oct 06, 2016
forgiveness:
I think I am beginning to panic because of too much in experience young talents against an experienced African team.

Rohr should not use only small boys for dat game oooo.

He should look for better player at the right back and use experienced players in the midfield and attack.

I don't think inexperience is a problem here.
The only player i might tag "not experienced enough for the position in a game of this magnitude" is if Musa Mohammed is started at the RB.

For the players you may tag as inexperience: 1.Troost Ekong is not a new comer to the national team. He played under Keshi and also Oliseh, though he was not a first choice. Rio Olympics has really given his confidence level a great boost. I think he will cope well in Ndola.

2. Iwobi. My major cause for worry here is the Ndola pitch may not allow for much of those his sleek passes. However, the positive is he is a very intelligent player and very skillful on the ball.Where he cannot get a through pass to his team mate, he can dribble his way to his team mate cheesy.
Alex has played a couple of games for the Super Eagles and never disappointed for once. I trust he won't disappoint in Ndola.

2. Iheanacho has settled down fast for his international career. Iheanacho is as bold as Lion on the pitch. No defender nor crowd can stop his ambitiousness. His style of play can also survive a bumpy pitch.

3.Simon has had a couple of games under Oliseh and Siasia. He has never disappointed. He is well suited for the Ndola battle. We need his kind of dribbling pace to destabilise the Zambian defense. The Zambians may have more eyes on Iheanacho, Iwobi and Musa while relatively unknown but deadly Simon would do the damage. wink

4. Shehu Abdulahi. He is my preferred RB choice.He is more matured and experienced than Musa Mohammed. He was at the 2014 CHAN under Keshi, though as a DMF. He featured in some friendlies under Keshi and Oliseh as RB and he played the Egypt double header of which he had a descent showing. We also saw him at Rio. Shehu can cope well in Ndola.

5. Musa Mohammed. This is my fear. I can't defend a decesion to start him. Some may say he has dazzling runs on the wings. His defensive capabilities, rather than dazzling runs, are more important for a game of this magnitude. Let the wingers do the runnings.

Other youngies like Esiti and Ndidi are not likely to start.

But i must point it out that for attacking positions talent beats experience. For instannce, I would chose Iheanacho's talents over Ideye's experience. I would chose Iwobi's and Simon's talents over Musa's experience.

Where experience is needed more in the game are in the defense and Midfield.

With Onazi and Mikel in the midfield we are good to go.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:31am On Oct 06, 2016
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Nigeria’s Super Eagles defeated Plateau United 3-0 in a test game preparatory to Sunday’s World Cup qualifier in Zambia with Arsenal star Alex Iwobi again catching the eye with a brace.

Iwobi crowned a superb individual display when in the 54th minute he combined well with Manchester City forward Kelechi Iheanacho to double the Eagles lead.

He fired his second goal on the stroke of full time off a rebound.

His father, Chuka, in the stands could not have been prouder.

Gent of Belgium defensive midfielder Anderson Esiti opened scoring in the 36th minute following a fine solo run.

Esiti’s fellow holding midfield colleague Shehu Abdullahi was solid for the Eagles.

After a cautious start by both sides, Rangers forward Chisom Egbuchulam spurned the first clear-cut chance after nine minutes.

Plateau United, who finished 11th this past season, played more as a team than the Eagles with winger Bright Silas and overlapping defender Kelechi John outstanding for the Jos club.

The Eagles struggled to impose themselves on the match up to the first half an hour, before they upped their game.

In the second, what looked like the starting XI for Sunday’s match were introduced wholesale with right-back Musa Mohammed the only survivor from the first half.

It was a better contest after the interval with a lot more intensity.

However, Olympiacos striker Brown Ideye was wasteful in front of the Plateau goal, while Joshua Obaje and Kabiru Umar posted a more assured performance at the other end of the pitch.

There were a few slips between Eagles central defenders Kenneth Omeruo and William Troost-Ekong.

Eagles start list (4-2-3-1): Ikechukwu Ezenwa (Carl Ikeme 46) – Kingsley Madu (Elderson Echiejile 46), Musa Mohammed, Uche Agbo (Kenneth Omeruo 46), Jamiu Alimi (William Troost-Ekong 46) – Shehu Abdullahi (Ogenyi Onazi 46), Anderson Esiti (Mikel Obi 46) - Ahmed Musa (Alex Iwobi 46), Chisom Egbuchulam (Moses Simon 46), Nosa Igiebor (Kelechi Iheanacho 46) – Godwin Obaje (Brown Ideye 46)

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