Boybrano:
My brother, the bible says; he that has ears let him hear. I am not saying that you are deaf, because even the deaf have ears but the ears don't function. Please don't understand the bible upside down. Stop twisting the verses of the bible to aprove your claims. Those things are in the bible and i agree with you but did you read further on, didn't you see that jesus was eighter making a parable or he was teaching his deciples about certain topics as the case may be when he said those things?

Boybrano:
My brother, the bible says; he that has ears let him hear. I am not saying that you are deaf, because even the deaf have ears but the ears don't function. Please don't understand the bible upside down. Stop twisting the verses of the bible to aprove your claims. Those things are in the bible and i agree with you but did you read further on, didn't you see that jesus was eighter making a parable or he was teaching his deciples about certain topics as the case may be when he said those things?

hopefulLandlord:


suddenly, it turns "parable" "allegory" "carnal mind can't understand"

but when it says something that's easy to follow it suddenly stops being an allegory

Boybrano:
My brother, the bible says; he that has ears let him hear. I am not saying that you are deaf, because even the deaf have ears but the ears don't function. Please don't understand the bible upside down. Stop twisting the verses of the bible to aprove your claims. Those things are in the bible and i agree with you but did you read further on, didn't you see that jesus was eighter making a parable or he was teaching his deciples about certain topics as the case may be when he said those things?

winner01:
Dont bother bruh, for how long
Those of us that read the Bible get the message despite relentless efforts by those who want it to be wrong.
We love the bible, we love Jesus, and thats what matters.
Spend your time elsewhere instead.

winner01:
Dont bother bruh, for how long
Those of us that read the Bible get the message despite relentless efforts by those who want it to be wrong.
We love the bible, we love Jesus, and thats what matters.
Spend your time elsewhere instead.

Lennycool:

You love Jesus but do you follow all his teachings?

winner01:
And because i may not, God does not exist .

I dont really have the time, have a goodd day.

EyeHateGod:
[size=20pt]Give away every thing u own:[/size]

- Luk 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
- Luk 18:22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
- Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go [and] sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come [and] follow me.
- Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

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[size=20pt] Give anything You have to anyone Who ask: [/size]

- Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

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[size=20pt] Women - dont dress up, Fix ur hair or wear jewelry: [/size]

- 1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

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[size=20pt] Women should shut up while in church! this one is for my dear anas01 that loves arguing with me! [/size]

- 1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

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[size=20pt] Do not marry a divorced woman: [/size]

- Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

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[size=20pt] Dont marry!: [/size]

- 1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

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[size=20pt] Cut off Your hands!: [/size]

- Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell. anas01 na sharia law be this o! 4evergod1

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[size=20pt] Gouge out your eyes!: [/size]

- Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

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[size=20pt] Return runaway slaves: [/size]

- Phm 1:12 Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels:

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[size=20pt] Never swear an oath: [/size]

- Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's Throne...winner01 u have a problem with this? u and jw?

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[size=20pt] Do not defend yourself: [/size]

- Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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[size=20pt] Do not pray in public: [/size]

- Mat 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, [size=18pt][b]that they may be seen of men[/size]. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
- Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
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[size=20pt] Dont plan for the future: [/size]

- Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day [is] the evil thereof.

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[size=20pt] Dont wear Nice clothes!: [/size]

- Mat 6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin
- Mat 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

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[size=20pt] The wealthy will be condemned!: [/size]

- Jam 5:1 Go to now, [ye] rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon [you].
- Jam 5:2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
- Jam 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
- Jam 5:4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
- Jam 5:5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

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[size=20pt] Hate your Family: [/size]

- Luk 14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

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Christ like indeed. Abeg who still day buy that stupid lie??

EyeHateGod:

Lol can u imagine? parable ke parable ni it seams everything Jesus said in the NT na parable

Lennycool:

You love Jesus but do you follow all his teachings?

Lennycool:

Nobody is talking about the existence of God, you believe in him and I don't. I don't believe in Jesus so I don't follow his teachings, you believe in Christ but still don't follow all his teachings. You only pick the ones you can follow, and ignore the rest.

Amberon:
Lol... Christianity must be giving you sleepless nights.

Your God obsession is waxing stronger. I can only wish you speedy recovery.

Scholar8200:
spoken to a rich, young ruler who was not yet a disciple but apparently had problem with trust in properties.Does it apply to all Christians? YES. Is that on the same terms? NO. See:

Matthew 19:29
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

TAKE CAREFUL NOTE OF THE WORD 'OR'. Meaning you must be willing to give up any of these as the need arises. Now here is where your post reeks of fallacy of hasty generalisation in that you speak as one who knows ALL christians all around the world inside out!

Indeed, and you can only give what is yours; also balancing with the fact that you can only love your neighbour as yourself, not more than yourself. Neither is this a license to serve the covetousness or greed of others but only where a true need exists.

The passage speaks of the need to avoid extravagance.

Yes, but they are allowed to prophesy in the Church:
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1 Corinth 11:5
This was written concerning public worship.

Correct! Now that some do it does not mean all approves of it. It is therefore mischievous to generalize.

Just a step further: But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.1 Corinth 7:28a

It simply means to mortify. Just show us one report from the Gospels or the Early Church where this was misinterpreted and misapplied like you are advocating.

Indeed. Have you heard of affirming to the truth instead of swearing at the court?

This speaks of non-retaliation. Simple.

you missed the whole point as per the highlighted. Hannah prayed in public minus that intention and she was answered.

Taking thought here speaks of worry and anxiety, not planning and preparing.

That highlighted part is the source of their condemnation and not all wealthy men are guilty of that. Besides:

17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

1 Timothy 6:17,18

There were rich disciples too!

you dont understand this else why did Jesus go into the house of Peter and heal his mother-in-law? Or why would Jesus care for Mary's welfare while on the cross? A better understanding is what you get when He would not interrupt The Father's Work when they came. Love your family, but let your love for God be higher.

Who? Millions all over the world!!!

Amberon:
Lol... Christianity must be giving you sleepless nights.

Your God obsession is waxing stronger. I can only wish you speedy recovery.

Amberon:
How is that your business sire? Spread atheism if you're an atheist. I see you can't you can't do without christianity.

EyeHateGod:

They claim to be "Christ Like" No i need my Freedom From Religion!

EyeHateGod:

What do they call this Tatic this days?

EyeHateGod:

Scholar8200:
spoken to a rich, young ruler who was not yet a disciple but apparently had problem with trust in properties.Does it apply to all Christians? YES. Is that on the same terms? NO. See:

EYE:
So they are Now Terms And Condition to Follow Jesus teachings? Doesn't that sound like Cherry picking to u and Personal view on Things?

Sch:
Matthew 19:29
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

TAKE CAREFUL NOTE OF THE WORD 'OR'. Meaning you must be willing to give up any of these as the need arises. Now here is where your post reeks of fallacy of hasty generalisation in that you speak as one who knows ALL christians all around the world inside out!

Eye:
Common Everyone knows that "Or" has noting to do with what u are implicating it to mean!

Can u gimme some examples of Christians u know that Comply to That?

Sch:
Indeed, and you can only give what is yours; also balancing with the fact that you can only love your neighbour as yourself, not more than yourself. Neither is this a license to serve the covetousness or greed of others but only where a true need exists.

Eye:
What would Jesus do? This post is About Christian Who claim to be Christ like But are Noting Near it If Jesus Balanced It as in Not Loving His Neighbors than he love himself He Wouldn't had Died for Anyone sins! like the Bible made u believe So what point are u trying to drive that they is a limit to be Christ like? or it's just Cherry pick again?

Sch:
The passage speaks of the need to avoid extravagance.
Eye:
U mean like the Private Jet Pastors Fly? and mansions they live Or is that not Extravagant Enough?

Sch:
Yes, but they are allowed to prophesy in the Church:
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1 Corinth 11:5
This was written concerning public worship.


But not in Church! So why do we See Female Pastors?

Sch:
It simply means to mortify. Just show us one report from the Gospels or the Early Church where this was misinterpreted and misapplied like you are advocating.

Eye:
that verse Is kristal Clear Like Clean water! Mortify how?

Sch:
This speaks of non-retaliation. Simple.

Eye:
If i slap u will u turn the other cheek? How many Christian does that?

you missed the whole point as per the highlighted. Hannah prayed in public minus that intention and she was answered.


1Sa 1:12 And it came to pass, as she continued praying before the LORD, that Eli marked her mouth.
1Sa 1:13 Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken.

That highlighted part is the source of their condemnation and not all wealthy men are guilty of that. Besides:

17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

1 Timothy 6:17,18

There were rich disciples too!

Mention them

you dont understand this else why did Jesus go into the house of Peter and heal his mother-in-law? Or why would Jesus care for Mary's welfare while on the cross? A better understanding is what you get when He would not interrupt The Father's Work when they came. Love your family, but let your love for God be higher.


Matthew 19:29
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life

Who? Millions all over the world!!!

EyeHateGod:

What do they call this Tatic this days?

Amberon:
You mean your disorder? Its called bipolar.

Amberon:
who is holdind you captive sire?

Seems more like you want to be in the " bondage" called religion cuz no one is forcing you to be on these threads.

EyeHateGod:

Why don't u try and where An atheist T-shirt For One Week After that We'll talk!

This Is My Thread! so get the f**k out!

Amberon:
Atheism is not a religion so why is your thread in the religious section sir? You should get out cuz this is the religious section. This should be in the comic section.

What T-shirt? nigga you been smoking that blunt or nah?

Amberon:
Atheism is not a religion so why is your thread in the religious section sir? You should get out cuz this is the religious section. This should be in the comic section.

What T-shirt? nigga you been smoking that blunt or nah?

Scholar8200:
Did Jesus say the same thing to the demoniac that was healed? Did HE not say go back to your family and hometown and testify? Yes, we have the Gospels, but they do not declare a dead Person! He is Alive! What He demands I give up for Him may not be applicable to the other person! For example, Peter forsook his house, but the demoniac (Mark 5:19) was asked to return to his!

Everyone who? Or there differentiates it from AND. Implication? A disciple might be called upon to forsake OR the other for His sake! A may be asked to forsake what B is allowed to have.(strictly as it concerns the items outlined).

Many! We have missionaries that forsake their lands and families just to serve Jesus in hazardous climes. Eg, Jim Elliot, William Carey, C.T. Studd (find time to read of this man), and millions of believers home and abroad some who give up well paying jobs and a comfortable life just to serve God. I dont know everybody hence I can only state the ones I have read about. Personally, I have had to give up great prospects of working in a multinational simply because their object clause is incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus which I believe etc.

I believe the answer is clear enough. Besides, you are NOT in the position to adjudicate here since you have NO knowledge of all Christians. That you were once like that or you know some that are like that is no grounds for this fallacious generalisation!

There you go again. The passage speaks of dressing, shall we stay on that? Besides, not all Pastors fly a private jet hence here the fallacy of hasty generalisation mars your claims.

There have being myriads of excellent pastors who never flew a personal jet, what then?

Where is public worship conducted?

This is why we say leave these things alone: Read the Epistles you will get the meaning of what Jesus said.

Did Jesus do that when the soldier struck Him? He is the best explanation for the sermon on the mount. Reading the statement in its context clarifies the need to avoid retaliation in all forms.

So you see, she prayed in public but not to be seen of men.

Joseph of Arimathea Matthew 27:57, the other disciples mentioned in Luke 8:2-4

Lennycool:

Nobody is talking about the existence of God, you believe in him and I don't. I don't believe in Jesus so I don't follow his teachings, you believe in Christ but still don't follow all his teachings. You only pick the ones you can follow, and ignore the rest.

EyeHateGod:

Scholar8200:
Did Jesus say the same thing to the demoniac that was healed? Did HE not say go back to your family and hometown and testify? Yes, we have the Gospels, but they do not declare a dead Person! He is Alive! What He demands I give up for Him may not be applicable to the other person! For example, Peter forsook his house, but the demoniac (Mark 5:19) was asked to return to his!


Testify? do u know that they are two account of the gosple? one portraying Jesus As Being secretive of His Messianic mission and the Other like u just mentioned him being open about it?
Mar 1:44 And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
Mar 1:45 But he went out, and began to publish [it] much, and to blaze abroad the matter, insomuch that Jesus could no more openly enter into the city, but was without in desert places: and they came to him from every quarter.

2) Did the Demoniac wanted to be a deciple or followed of Jesus? like the Christians?

Everyone who? Or there differentiates it from AND. Implication? A disciple might be called upon to forsake OR the other for His sake! A may be asked to forsake what B is allowed to have.(strictly as it concerns the items outlined).

Are u still Kidding me?

I believe the answer is clear enough. Besides, you are NOT in the position to adjudicate here since you have NO knowledge of all Christians. That you were once like that or you know some that are like that is no grounds for this fallacious generalisation!

Should i Use Most?

There you go again. The passage speaks of dressing, shall we stay on that? Besides, not all Pastors fly a private jet hence here the fallacy of hasty generalisation mars your claims.
K let's keep it to dressing! and also keep it to "most" Christians I do watch Tv n church shows N i know what i see!

There have being myriads of excellent pastors who never flew a personal jet, what then?

Mention them p. s Nigeria only! After that U would then desire if the rest are fake or Not!

Where is public worship conducted?
1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Where is plubic worship mentioned here?

This is why we say leave these things alone: Read the Epistles you will get the meaning of what Jesus said.


Why don't U tell me?

Did Jesus do that when the soldier struck Him? He is the best explanation for the sermon on the mount. Reading the statement in its context clarifies the need to avoid retaliation in all forms.


i asked u A "Christian" a simple question if i slap will u turn the other cheek?

So you see, she prayed in public but not to be seen of men.


So men Don't Go to Church? huh So the Loud speakers Our Churches use in Nigeria to Disturb People Is What? The Ones that those Chosen members where doing acrobatic Display is what?