mustymatic:
I'll take you serious as soon as you can explain to us which of these verses abrogated which...
If not, you are a hypocrite

mustymatic:
I'll take you serious as soon as you can explain to us which of these verses abrogated which...
If not, you are a hypocrite

EyeHateGod:

Common it's no news that Christians Are Hypocrites na

malvisguy212:
There are big difference between made and form, The term
"made" is translated from Hebrew word #
6212, which basically means "to PREPERE,"and the word "formed" is translated from Hebrew word #3335, which means "to form, FASHION, frame." Example :

Isaiah 45:18,
"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that FORMED the earth AND MADE it;"

In other words, God "prepared" every living thing in Genesis 1, but did not actually bring it into physical form until Genesis 2!

Genesis 2:4-5,
"This is the book of the generation of heaven and earth, when they were MADE, in the day in which the LORD God MADE the heaven and
the earth, and every herb of the field BEFORE it was in the earth [before it was formed], and all the grass of the field BEFORE IT SPRANG UP [before it was formed], for God had not rained
on the earth, AND THEIR WAS NOT A MAN TO CULTIVATE IT [why was there not a man to cultivate it? Because no man was yet formed!]. "

"Not a man to cultivate it" this imply the herb and animal were MADE before man, But when we come to the "forming" of them, we see that,
at Genesis 2:7, Adam was "formed" before
the animals, then, at Genesis 2:19, the animals were "formed." Then, at Genesis 2:20, Adam named the animals. And lastly, at Genesis 1:22, Eve was "formed" from Adam's rib.

Now, back to topic, if you cannot answer my question, why are you a muslim ?

mustymatic:

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The new testament as the christians claim is the perfect example of abrogation of the old

Scholar8200:
Prove this.

mustymatic:

Abrogation may refer to:

The abolition or repeal of a law, institution, custom etc. Cf. Obrogation
abrogatio, the Latin term for legal annulment under Roman law
Abrogation of Old Covenant laws, the ending or setting aside of Old Testament stipulations for the New Testament
Denunciation (international law) of a treaty
Canceling of effects, To nullify; make void
Abrogation doctrine, a doctrine in United States constitutional law
Naskh (tafsir) (Arabic for abrogation), a genre of Islamic exegesis dealing with conflicting material in Islamic law

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrogation
I hope that this is sufficient

Scholar8200:
But the NT fulfills the Old! And when a prophecy has been fulfilled, we move on from that point of fulfillment.

mustymatic:

And it's called abrogation

mustymatic:

All this your form and prepare is utter nonsense
When your mother prepares food it means she makes it
I'll make it snappy
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Abrogation (Arabic Naskh) is a topic that is dealt with in the Sciences of the Qur’an. Abrogation is defined as the lifting of a shari`ah ruling because of the evidence of a later shari`ah ruling. Abrogation plays an essential role in the history of religion in the sense that the shari`ah brought by our Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and grant him peace) abrogated all previous shari`ahs. But there is also abrogation within Islam as well, when previous rulings are nullified by rulings that come later. A noteworthy example of this is the gradual prohibition of wine. It was first revealed in the Qur’an the prohibition of preforming the prayer while intoxicated: “O you who have believed! Do not approach the prayer while you are intoxicated…” (al-Nisa’, 43). Later, the ruling of this verse was abrogated by a complete prohibition of wine altogether: “O you who have believed! Wine and gambling . . . are of Satan’s handwork, so shun them so that you may be successful. Satan wants but to place between you enmity and hatred with wine and gambling and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from the prayer. Will you not then abstain?” (al-Ma’ida, 90-91)

Among the wisdoms of abrogation was bringing ease by introducing rulings that were appropriate for the different states of the Muslims during the times of revelation. When the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) first brought the religion, it was not easy for people to leave their previous beliefs and traditions. Allah sent the guidance and the rulings step-by-step, with His divine care and concern, gradually purifying and raising the ummah until the religion was complete
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The new testament as the christians claim is the perfect example of abrogation of the old

mustymatic:

And it's called abrogation

Scholar8200:
a prophecy fulfilled cannot be said to have been abrogated (repealed).

malvisguy212:
are you not the one that gave the dictionary meaning of abrogation ? A prophecy fulfilled is not a abrogation.

malvisguy212:
Surah 16:101: “And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, – and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth – they say: Lo! thou art but INVENTING Most of them know not.” (Pickthall)

This Qur’anic verse shows that a number of
people living during the time of Muhammad
were troubled at this concept of abrogation. In
response to the claim that new revelations
superseded the older ones, they said to
Muhammad, “Thou art but inventing most of them "And they are absolutely right.

Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass away
and establishes what He pleases, and
with Him is the basis of the Book.” (Shakir)

If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself as the
arbitrary god who acts as he pleases without
even honoring his own sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every instance of abrogation is a problem for the doctrine of an unchanging God.

Malachi 3:6
“For I am the Lord, I do not change..."

mustymatic:

All this your form and prepare is utter nonsense
When your mother prepares food it means she makes it
I'll make it snappy
[b]
Abrogation (Arabic Naskh) is a topic that is dealt with in the Sciences of the Qur’an. Abrogation is defined as the lifting of a shari`ah ruling because of the evidence of a later shari`ah ruling. Abrogation plays an essential role in the history of religion in the sense that the shari`ah brought by our Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and grant him peace) abrogated all previous shari`ahs. But there is also abrogation within Islam as well, when previous rulings are nullified by rulings that come later. A noteworthy example of this is the gradual prohibition of wine. It was first revealed in the Qur’an the prohibition of preforming the prayer while intoxicated: “O you who have believed! Do not approach the prayer while you are intoxicated…” (al-Nisa’, 43). Later, the ruling of this verse was abrogated by a complete prohibition of wine altogether: “O you who have believed! Wine and gambling . . . are of Satan’s handwork, so shun them so that you may be successful. Satan wants but to place between you enmity and hatred with wine and gambling and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from the prayer. Will you not then abstain?” (al-Ma’ida, 90-91)

Among the wisdoms of abrogation was bringing ease by introducing rulings that were appropriate for the different states of the Muslims during the times of revelation. When the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) first brought the religion, it was not easy for people to leave their previous beliefs and traditions. Allah sent the guidance and the rulings step-by-step, with His divine care and concern, gradually purifying and raising the ummah until the religion was complete
[/b]
The new testament as the christians claim is the perfect example of abrogation of the old

mustymatic:

All this your form and prepare is utter nonsense
When your mother prepares food it means she makes it
I'll make it snappy
[b]
Abrogation (Arabic Naskh) is a topic that is dealt with in the Sciences of the Qur’an. Abrogation is defined as the lifting of a shari`ah ruling because of the evidence of a later shari`ah ruling. Abrogation plays an essential role in the history of religion in the sense that the shari`ah brought by our Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and grant him peace) abrogated all previous shari`ahs. But there is also abrogation within Islam as well, when previous rulings are nullified by rulings that come later. A noteworthy example of this is the gradual prohibition of wine. It was first revealed in the Qur’an the prohibition of preforming the prayer while intoxicated: “O you who have believed! Do not approach the prayer while you are intoxicated…” (al-Nisa’, 43). Later, the ruling of this verse was abrogated by a complete prohibition of wine altogether: “O you who have believed! Wine and gambling . . . are of Satan’s handwork, so shun them so that you may be successful. Satan wants but to place between you enmity and hatred with wine and gambling and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from the prayer. Will you not then abstain?” (al-Ma’ida, 90-91)

Among the wisdoms of abrogation was bringing ease by introducing rulings that were appropriate for the different states of the Muslims during the times of revelation. When the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) first brought the religion, it was not easy for people to leave their previous beliefs and traditions. Allah sent the guidance and the rulings step-by-step, with His divine care and concern, gradually purifying and raising the ummah until the religion was complete
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The new testament as the christians claim is the perfect example of abrogation of the old

oyatz:
If you are arguing like this as a professional, you will hardly win any case.
1) The topic for debate is about NASKH, an Islamic concept of 'Allah revealing a verse of the Quran which abrogate an earlier verse of the same holy Quran'
2) The NASKH has nothing to do with the Bible or Christianity.
3)Argue your case, solely on the evidence provided, not based on extraneous topic/ issue.
4) It is wrong to assume that any critique of the Qur'an must be a 'Christianity vs Islam' comparison/ contest