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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 12:00pm On Oct 09, 2016
tdayof:
The economic recession is keeping Nigerians busy as focus shifts to daily survival to the extent that we carry on, unaware of threat greater than hunger and deprivation. The Islamic Republic of Iran! There it is. The threat greater than the prospect of starvation. Yet, those Nigerians who do not identify this country as a threat to the future of our fatherland can be forgiven.
The last consciousness we have of Iran was when President Muhammadu Buhari went on an official trip to Tehran, the Iranian capital to attend the third edition of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum. That visit was widely construed by members of the public that we enjoy excellent diplomatic relations with the Islamic Republic. The layman can be pardoned for holding such view but it would be suicidal for Nigeria if those in government, particularly those in our diplomatic and security circle live with such delusion.
There are instances that would justify being so deluded but we must never fall for that trap for once. Of course there was that picture of Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr Mohammad Javad Zarif and the Ambsaddor to Nigeria, Morteza Rahimi Zarchi in a photo op with President Buhari in Abuja and that was as recently as July this year. One can only hope that our diplomats see to it that such events do not go beyond the phot ops that they are. Iran may be cosying up to the Nigerian government with all the touchy-feely diplomacy that would only deliver a poisoned kiss in the final episode.
The Islamic Republic may be posing as Nigeria’s ally but the reality is that it is using our country as the launch-pad for its ambitious goal of spreading Shiism across the world having failed in the Middle East where several of its attempts ended in fiasco. So far, it has found a non-resistant host for the virus of state sponsored terrorism it is peddling in Nigeria.
In 2013, the military intelligence discovered a large cache of arms and ammunitions in a warehouse in the Bompai area of Kano, the Kano State capital. Memory of that discovery should continue to send the jitters down the spine of any patriotic Nigerian. The weapons uncovered included “anti-tank weapons, RPGs and RPG launchers, submachine guns, handguns, and a large quantity of ammunition and explosives,” according to reports. The cache was later tied to Hezbollah and the sponsor of that terror group is well known as Iran, which pulls the strings and dictates the group’s actions, practically.
We must not forget that prior to the discovery of the cache of arms in Kano, the Department of State Services had uncovered an Iranian terror network in Lagos on February 20, 2013. Members of the network answered to a Shiite cleric who had trained in Iran. Their briefs included spying on nationals and interest of other nations that are Nigeria’s allies.
Further down memory lane, a vessel, the M/V Everest arrived in Nigeria on October 26, 2010 with cargo that was inimical to us as a nation – 13 container load of weapons, make that several tons of weapons that originated from Iran. While the destination of the weapons was said to be the Gambia, nothing puts it beyond those behind the shipment to have quietly offloaded and slipped some into circulation in Nigeria. The two operatives of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards behind the shipment had posed as businessmen in the business of building material so claiming the destination was the Gambia could have as well been a front.
It appears Iran got fed up with having to use fronts and alibis to get the dirty job done and simply decided to outsource to a proxy. The Islamic Movement in Nigeria thus became the willing franchisee in Nigeria to do the Islamic Republic’s dirty work. What better way to infiltrate another country other than through its citizens that have been brainwashed to the point of radicalism?
Whatever Iran got into IMN members must have been some sort of hallucinogen-on-steroid. Leaders of the group, hand-picked and trained in Iran have spent years, quietly building cells and networks while the Nigerian state continues to think there is now no much to worry about since they were interacting with a supposedly friendly nation. Recent events have however exposed the flaw in that perception. IMN is nothing like a religious or sectarian movement it packages itself to be. It is an Iranian terror group that is apparently intended to metamorphose into the Nigerian equivalent of Hezbollah at some point.
Iran’s inability to ship weapons or embed spies in Nigeria without detection possibly forced it to activate the side of IMN prematurely. This perhaps explains the rapid rate at which the group became belligerent. It had maintained a reign of terror over Zaria, Kaduna state, which it used like a test case, without brazenly confronting security operatives or attempting to assassinate military leaders. The decision of its leaders and members to engage the army in an open war in December 2015 must have been driven by directions and assurances from outside Nigeria and only one country is known to have such capacity, interest and incentive.
Two things stood out in the wake of the fall out from the folly of IMN in fighting the army.
One, the cache of weapons surfaced from the IMN stronghold in Zaria echoes the several attempts by Iran to ship weapons to or through Nigeria. In both cases authorities need to investigate to find out the extent to which Iran succeeded in handing arms to IMN members in instances that were not discovered by security agencies. That probe should also extend to finding out what trainings IMN members received from Iran in the light of the videos showing members of the group performing military drills.
Secondly, we must establish how much logistics and funding support IMN got from Iran, especially under its former ambassador, Saeed Koozechi, who was openly anti-Nigeria while championing the right of IMN militants to kill Nigerian troops and get away with it. That investigation too should shed light on what has changed under the incumbent Ambassador Zarchi who replaced Koozechi. The IMN extremists had slowed down their invectives against the Nigerian state upon Koozechi’s recall but have again started returning to aggressive behaviours.
Their aggression in recent weeks included threats to shut down Abuja with protests if IMN head, Sheikh Ibraheem Al-Zakyzaky is not released from detention even when the offence for which he is being held, borders on terrorism. It remains unclear at this point if the members genuinely want to see their leader freed or that Iran has become fed up with him and only wants him released to newly anointed replacements who will likely kill him to have something against the Nigerian government while paving way for a leadership that will be more aggressive than el-Zakyzaky.
Whatever the case may be, if the previous government did not do it, it must be because they repeatedly ignored the facts, but the federal government must review our relationship with the Islamic Republic of Iran. Its current Ambassador should be sent back home while relations with the country should be put on ice until it can give a strong commitment that it would cut off support to IMN, stop shipping arms to or through Nigeria and stop stop its attempt of creating a Hezbollah equivalent in Nigeria.
. Onoja writes from the Centre Against Terrorism and Extremism, Jos, Plateau State.
next tomorrow it will b Russia after dat den China.

pls enough wit all dis Western propaganda.
shia as far am concern is not a threat.
threat we face in Nigeria is radicalized Muslims sponsored by Saudi Arabia.

so our biggest threat is d Sunnis

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:12pm On Oct 09, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:29pm On Oct 09, 2016
Nigerian navy SBS commandos

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:35pm On Oct 09, 2016
Nigeria Random



On the Gulma drone and general UAV development in Nigeria, it could not have come at a more perfect time. There is a huge market for UAV and UAS systems in Nigeria both for security purposes and leisure. Nigerians have already taken to the drone culture. The Nigerian Air Force can make lots of money.



However, i do not think it is the place of the Nigerian Air Force to build and market Drones, neither is it the place for the Navy to build Ships and Army building APCs. These agencies can assist with research but it should be the Private sector who should lead in the further development and sale of assets.

Proforce Defence has the Proforce Remoeye which is a license build of the Remoeye UAV from South-Korea, there are also smaller companies who build at different levels.


The Karaduwa is a beautiful vessel, same as the Ugwu and Andoni. These are primary navy builds but we can sea each vessel took 4years to build unlike the quick delivery of 90 small boats to the Nigerian navy using local private sector companies. It is clear Government bureaucracy just doesn't work it is slow and near hopeless. Apart from Ethiopia, all other government agencies move at a snail pace, government shouldn't be involved in building or marketing anything. In-fact Government shouldn't even be allowed to run Government.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:07pm On Oct 09, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by peterphd(m): 1:12pm On Oct 09, 2016
Hey Henry240, this is a photo of the men of thee supposed 'yet to be commissioned' Nigerian Marines. Thought you might have more information. Thanks

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:31pm On Oct 09, 2016
peterphd:
Hey Henry240, this is a photo of the men of thee supposed 'yet to be commissioned' Nigerian Marines. Thought you might have more information. Thanks

Marines under what arm, Navy? I'm "hearing" about this for the first time. What about the Army amphibious guys?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by peterphd(m): 2:42pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henry240:


Marines under what arm, Navy? I'm "hearing" about this for the first time. What about the Army amphibious guys?

I'm guessing they're under the army but definitely not the amphibious guys. The amphibious men get recruited at the same time as regular recruit combatants, don't they?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:53pm On Oct 09, 2016
peterphd:


I'm guessing they're under the army but definitely not the amphibious guys. The amphibious men get recruited at the same time as regular recruit combatants, don't they?

I'm just as confused as you. How would the army field Marines and Amphibious units at the same time. Although i can spot a Naval officers uniform there.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:16pm On Oct 09, 2016
Mali MIG-21 jet

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by onumaegbuikenna: 3:22pm On Oct 09, 2016
guys if you join the NA through DSSC will you get to see combat?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:24pm On Oct 09, 2016
Sudan Mig-29 jet

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:39pm On Oct 09, 2016
Air Force of Zimbabwe

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:42pm On Oct 09, 2016
Off topic:yesterday saudi jets targeted a funeral inyemen capital sanaa,killing more than 200 hundred people.if this is not the time for countries to arm themselves,i dont know what most of us in africa are waiting for !the kinds of images i saw ,bodies burned mutilated bodies e.t.c if saudi can do this with america bombs,wiping out more than 200 people and never giving a f@ck .because they are untouchable.most of us rely on the UN,to offer us protection(it time we seriously rearm with latest weaponry).those days are long gone.the utter disregard of innocent civilians has reached unprecedented level

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raGbTmKVQzo

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 3:48pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
Off topic:yesterday saudi jets targeted a funeral inyemen capital sanaa,killing more than 200 hundred people.if this is not the time for countries to arm themselves,i dont know what most of us in africa are waiting for !the kinds of images i saw ,bodies burned mutilated bodies e.t.c if saudi can do this with america bombs,wiping out more than 200 people and never giving a f@ck .because they are untouchable.most of us rely on the UN,to offer us protection(it time we seriously rearm with latest weaponry).those days are long gone.the utter disregard of innocent civilians has reached unprecedented level

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raGbTmKVQzo
Against what threat? grin grin grin


Anyway! It is always the civilians who suffer the most in conflicts.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 3:51pm On Oct 09, 2016
Posidonius:


It's the Malaysian flag
oh yeah! You're right. The sub-theme is kind of misleading me into thinking the ship was anchored in Sri lanka.....and their flag is something different from what i saw THEN on Unity.
Just a bit different from the Yank's flag though. Been awhile.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by peterphd(m): 4:00pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henry240:


I'm just as confused as you. How would the army field Marines and Amphibious units at the same time. Although i can spot a Naval officers uniform there.
I don't think that's a Naval officer's leg in the background. It's what they wear when not in fatigues. I'll post more pics as I get them.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 4:38pm On Oct 09, 2016
@ tdayof, there are salient points in the article you posted but, the Sunni's is a greater threat just like their Shia/Shiite's counterpart.
We all know the 'sect' that engaged more in this kinda 'business'. Even the one we are fighting in-country, we all know the sect they belong to.
Going by the OP assertion(s), if he claimed that Iran is their sponsor(which is half true) then we can conveniently say Saudi Arabia is the Mastermind behind every Sunni Jihadist Group(terrorists) the world over. Again, if the Iranian amb. Should be sent home, then the same fate should befall his Saudi counterpart because, practically, both are terrorist/de-stabilisers sponsoring nations.
Prior to BH insurgence, the audio release of Bin Laden then still rings in my ear, where he says and i quote: "Nigeria is ripe for Jihad", End of quote. We know where Laden comes from.
So, the issue of Shiite and Sunni is more a religious rivalry aimed at 'topling'(by violence)each other and not minding if other neutral groups/citizen/religious organization is caught in the crossfire.

If Iran should 'start' its destabilization program in Nigeria(through the shiite), their target will be at the sunni-led government and the sunni-majority-moslems(though everyone will be affected in the crisis), it won't be directly toward the State.
So, both sects are threat to humanity... Simple.

*Sorry for the long post.*

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 4:47pm On Oct 09, 2016
Vikkie14:
@ tdayof, there are salient points in the article you posted but, the Sunni's is a greater threat just like their Shia/Shiite's counterpart.
We all know the 'sect' that engaged more in this kinda 'business'. Even the one we are fighting in-country, we all know the sect they belong to.
Going by the OP assertion(s), if he claimed that Iran is their sponsor(which is half true) then we can conveniently say Saudi Arabia is the Mastermind behind every Sunni Jihadist Group(terrorists) the world over. Again, if the Iranian amb. Should be sent home, then the same fate should befall his Saudi counterpart because, practically, both are terrorist/de-stabilisers sponsoring nations.
Prior to BH insurgence, the audio release of Bin Laden then still rings in my ear, where he says and i quote: "Nigeria is ripe for Jihad", End of quote. We know where Laden comes from.

If Iran should 'start' its destabilization program in Nigeria(through the shiite), their target will be at the sunni-led government and the sunni-majority-moslems(though everyone will be affected in the crisis), it won't be directly toward the State.
So, both sects are threat to humanity... Simple.

*Sorry for the long post.*

Nice reading your reply. You have got some points.

At the post, the issue of huge weapons being discovered makes me believe there are alot that have been successfully smuggled into the country.

If we have great evidence about these people especially with the IRGC caught, Is it that we're scared to prosecute them as they're citizens of countries with nuclear capabilities?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 5:36pm On Oct 09, 2016
tdayof:

If we have great evidence about these people especially with the IRGC caught, Is it that we're scared to prosecute them as they're citizens of countries with nuclear capabilities?
There are loads and loads of 'evidences/reports/leaks' pointing to Saudi as the finger behind 911, yet they aint being prosecuted. The yanks have stockpiles of nuclear triad than the two 'religious rival' States could muster, yet they look the other way. Nigeria should not be bias on the issue bordering Shiite and Sunni. The moslem north of the country is Sunni majority and that's why i have this reserve about the new law in Kaduna state because, it won't be funny at all having another religious fanatics(who will take advantage of the law to cause chaos) running amok in the country, giving the military another dose of war to engage in.
The other day, i was having a chat with a sunni-moslem-military-enthusiast and he was trying to tell me that
the world would be better off without America and Saudi Arabia(world greatest Confusionists/Chaos theorists and De-stabilisers),
i can't but agree with him.

Henry, hope am still within the ambient of the rule of the thread?
Pics: 1 n 2 NDA cadets

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 5:59pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
Off topic:yesterday saudi jets targeted a funeral inyemen capital sanaa,killing more than 200 hundred people.if this is not the time for countries to arm themselves,i dont know what most of us in africa are waiting for !the kinds of images i saw ,bodies burned mutilated bodies e.t.c if saudi can do this with america bombs,wiping out more than 200 people and never giving a f@ck .because they are untouchable.most of us rely on the UN,to offer us protection(it time we seriously rearm with latest weaponry).those days are long gone.the utter disregard of innocent civilians has reached unprecedented level

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raGbTmKVQzo

Guns vs. butter. Better to spend money on free education, sewers , water, irrigation...... Than building the occident's economies with the little money Africa has.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:31pm On Oct 09, 2016




The UAE boat hit by the missile
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:12pm On Oct 09, 2016
MikeCZA:
Against what threat? grin grin grin


Anyway! It is always the civilians who suffer the most in conflicts.
can't solve insurgencies and terrorism from groups poorly funded in our continent (just imagine an african country facing well funded insurgent groups like assad is facing.how long would it take before such a state collapses.we can't even maintain simple airframes like MIG-21,most air force in this continent have air crafts rusting on backyards of their air bases

africa is not poor but stupid,incompetent,subservient,non progressive e.t.c problems that can be solved a high school graduate can't be solved even by a university graduate.the rest of the world have transformed their agriculture sector,but we are still starving to death.in the past for every 5 peace keepers in africa only 1 was african. with help from foreign countries now its for 5 peace keepers 2 are from africa. border security is non existence in most of our countries.we can't protect our coastal waters from illegal fishing,let along piracy. proliferation of small arms is serious problem due to porous borders,failed states,civil wars e.t.c
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:12pm On Oct 09, 2016
Is there a published specification detail of NAF GULMA?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 8:20pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
can't solve insurgencies and terrorism from groups poorly funded in our continent (just imagine an african country facing well funded insurgent groups like assad is facing.how long would it take before such a state collapses.we can't even maintain simple airframes like MIG-21,most air force in this continent have air crafts rusting on backyards of their air bases

africa is not poor but stupid,incompetent,subservient,non progressive e.t.c problems that can be solved a high school graduate can't be solved even by a university graduate.the rest of the world have transformed their agriculture sector,but we are still starving to death.in the past for every 5 peace keepers in africa only 1 was african. with help from foreign countries now its for 5 peace keepers 2 are from africa. border security is non existence in most of our countries.we can't protect our coastal waters from illegal fishing,let along piracy. proliferation of small arms is serious problem due to porous borders,failed states,civil wars e.t.c

Those are all political problems, cant be solved by force. Wars are not fought with the aim of killing the "enemy." Better results are gained from negotiation, diplomacy, blackmail, and most importantly subterfuge
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:35pm On Oct 09, 2016
Tinfoil:


Those are all political problems, cant be solved by force. Wars are not fought with the aim of killing the "enemy." Better results are gained from negotiation, diplomacy, blackmail, and most importantly subterfuge
not being able to maintain a MIG-21 is now a political problem or a poorly protected border or coastline ! we simply dont know how to run a country let alone an army

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:41pm On Oct 09, 2016
Vikkie14:

Henry, hope am still within the ambient of the rule of the thread? Pics: 1 n 2 NDA cadets
Yes, as long as photos accompany your comments, like you just did.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:52pm On Oct 09, 2016
mali MIG-21 jets left to rust in the open

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:56pm On Oct 09, 2016
off topic :north korea MIG-21 jet ,isn't this the same jet as the Malians

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:03pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
can't solve insurgencies and terrorism from groups poorly funded in our continent (just imagine an african country facing well funded insurgent groups like assad is facing.how long would it take before such a state collapses.we can't even maintain simple airframes like MIG-21,most air force in this continent have air crafts rusting on backyards of their air bases

africa is not poor but stupid,incompetent,subservient,non progressive e.t.c problems that can be solved a high school graduate can't be solved even by a university graduate.the rest of the world have transformed their agriculture sector,but we are still starving to death.in the past for every 5 peace keepers in africa only 1 was african. with help from foreign countries now its for 5 peace keepers 2 are from africa. border security is non existence in most of our countries.we can't protect our coastal waters from illegal fishing,let along piracy. proliferation of small arms is serious problem due to porous borders,failed states,civil wars e.t.c

You seem to under-estimate African militaries. We would deal with the same sort of terrorists, our militaries would simply evolve. Before the revolution, only Egypt in Africa had a better military than Syria. The Syria military interms of men and equipment eclipsed any in Africa.


African countries do not require a big over-bloated military. We require militaries which combine modernity and quantity in the right amount to ensure security.


Africa is poor, we have resources, yes....... however countries on the continent lack the technology to harness the resources. Investing more bombs
would not extract the resources from the earth.

African countries aren't the only ones with border security issue. Israel was only able to ensure security when the Israeli government built a wall.


UNPKO killed African militaries. UNPKO turned armies on the continent to common police units. I don't see how UNPKO helped us.


The only security guarantees we have a high HDI for Africans. Bombs don't bring peace, if it did America won't have spent 15 years in Afghanistan.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:11pm On Oct 09, 2016
Nigerian Defence Academy 62nd Graduation Ceremony.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by M14A1: 9:18pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
can't solve insurgencies and terrorism from groups poorly funded in our continent (just imagine an african country facing well funded insurgent groups like assad is facing.how long would it take before such a state collapses.we can't even maintain simple airframes like MIG-21,most air force in this continent have air crafts rusting on backyards of their air bases

africa is not poor but stupid,incompetent,subservient,non progressive e.t.c problems that can be solved a high school graduate can't be solved even by a university graduate.the rest of the world have transformed their agriculture sector,but we are still starving to death.in the past for every 5 peace keepers in africa only 1 was african. with help from foreign countries now its for 5 peace keepers 2 are from africa. border security is non existence in most of our countries.we can't protect our coastal waters from illegal fishing,let along piracy. proliferation of small arms is serious problem due to porous borders,failed states,civil wars e.t.c
The most sensible thing I've seen all day. Nice one.

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