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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:29pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henry240:


You seem to under-estimate African militaries. We would deal with the same sort of terrorists, our militaries would simply evolve. Before the revolution, only Egypt in Africa had a better military than Syria. The Syria military interms of men and equipment eclipsed any in Africa.


African countries do not require a big over-bloated military. We require militaries which combine modernity and quantity in the right amount to ensure security.


Africa is poor, we have resources, yes....... however countries on the continent lack the technology to harness the resources.

African countries aren't the only ones with border security issue. Israel was only able to ensure security when the Israeli government built a wall.


UNPKO killed African militaries. UNPKO turned armies on the continent to common police units. I don't see how UNPKO helped us.
we are not poor ,compare pakistan a country with GDP of less than $ 300 billion can afford to have nuclear weapons,F-6 jets,ballistic missiles with range of more than 2,000KM ,Submarines e.t.c jordan with a GDP of $39 billion dollars is equiped with F-16,challenger tanks , Javelin anti tank weapon e.t.c and military industry that could rank among the top african military industries.dont forget jordan is the second water poor country in the world,90% of their wheat is donated by america(bread in jordan is subsidized by the government ,basically its like they are given for free)

we dont even have border security agencies or are too poorly equipped,funded and under manned to even secure our borders.most of our armies are poorly trained,equipped e.t.c to even participate in peace keeping

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:33pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henro please can you confirm the amount C-130's NAF has in storage.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:34pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henry240:


You seem to under-estimate African militaries. We would deal with the same sort of terrorists, our militaries would simply evolve. Before the revolution, only Egypt in Africa had a better military than Syria. The Syria military interms of men and equipment eclipsed any in Africa.


African countries do not require a big over-bloated military. We require militaries which combine modernity and quantity in the right amount to ensure security.


Africa is poor, we have resources, yes....... however countries on the continent lack the technology to harness the resources. Investing more bombs
would not extract the resources from the earth.

African countries aren't the only ones with border security issue. Israel was only able to ensure security when the Israeli government built a wall.


UNPKO killed African militaries. UNPKO turned armies on the continent to common police units. I don't see how UNPKO helped us.


The only security guarantees we have a high HDI for Africans. Bombs don't bring peace, if it did America won't have spent 15 years in Afghanistan.
@henry take time and read this article and then do your research on Jordanian armed force.then tell me who has real problems, us or them

Jordan struggles to keep economic fires burning


Following last week’s parliamentary elections, Jordan’s King Abdullah on Sunday made his priorities clear when he asked Hani al-Mulki, formerly the country’s caretaker prime minister, to form a new government with a focus on economic growth, introducing reforms and diversifying the economy.

The kingdom is one year into Jordan Vision 2025, a 10-year blueprint for economic and social development. The plan is based on two scenarios: that Jordan’s economy will grow by 4.8 percent or even 7.5 percent over the decade.

But both figures are a long way off for a country with a stagnating economy and few resources besides its strategic location. There’s no oil, and despite a wealth of sunshine, little solar energy. Jordan is the world’s second water-poorest nation, making agri-business challenging and expensive.

Exports centre around potash, phosphates and labour. Despite importing a third of its domestic labour force, Jordan exports 40 percent of its workers abroad. They bring in around $3.8bn worth of remittances into the country, which make up at least 20 percent of GDP and, according to analyst Fahed Fanek, provide a vital monthly income for around 350,000 families.

A vibrant private sector might make up for national financial shortcomings, but Jordan’s largest employer is the state. Excluding the military, Jordan’s large public sector employs 13 percent of the workforce to the cost of 37 percent of GDP. Although they are widely seen as a career-long ticket to security, state jobs pay poorly: the average public sector paycheque puts a single-income family of four below the poverty line.

With bare cupboards at home, Jordan has long relied on tourism, foreign direct investment and hefty US budgetary aid. But the flow of foreign money into Jordan is slowing.

According to government statistics, foreign direct investments dropped by 35 percent in 2015, while exports declined by 10 percent. Tourism has also crashed due to the wars in neighbouring Syria and Iraq. Revenue for Jordan’s most crucial industry sector dropped 12 percent in the first quarter of 2015, and has fallen since.
read more http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/analysis-lights-are-about-go-out-jordan-s-long-suffering-economy-2060454736
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:39pm On Oct 09, 2016
IED or just stuck in a ditch ?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:43pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:

we are not poor ,compare pakistan a country with GDP of less than $ 300 billion can afford to have nuclear weapons,F-6 jets,ballistic missiles with range of more than 2,000KM ,Submarines e.t.c jordan with a GDP of $39 billion dollars is equiped with F-16,challenger tanks , Javelin anti tank weapon e.t.c and military industry that could rank among the top african military industries.dont forget jordan is the second water poor country in the world,90% of their wheat is donated by america(bread in jordan is subsidized by the government ,basically its like they are given for free)

we dont even have border security agencies or are too poorly equipped,funded and under manned to even secure our borders.most of our armies are poorly trained,equipped e.t.c to even participate in peace keeping

Pakistan is a dirt poor country which has no business owning nuclear weapons, that huge amount of F-16s or that much equipment. Why don't you leave Kenya and go live in Pakistan.

Jordan a country with no natural resources has the best educated people in the middle-east, and a very high standard of leaving. They didn't get there by spending all their money on F-16s. Jordan receives considerable aid and security guarantees from the US. Jordan is no Yemen.


Southern Turkey is No safer than North-East Nigeria. Infact many areas of Southern Turkey are considerably worse than N.E Nigeria, despite massive defence spending.

For the so called big countries in Africa, Defence spending, a Defence cap of $4 billion is adequate for our security requirements.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:48pm On Oct 09, 2016
jakeporeshenko:
Henro please can you confirm the amount C-130's NAF has in storage.

We have 3 C-130s in storage bro, all sporting new Camo. Any good news coming in?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
@henry take time and read this article and then do your research on Jordanian armed force.then tell me who has real problems, us or them






Africans are in a worse state, and you think spending more money on defence remedies the situation. Like i said previously, $4 billion is more than adequate for the big countries in Africa, half of that for medium level.

Any military that cannot work around $3.5 billion - $4 billion a year would still fail even if $700 billion is provided for defence.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:56pm On Oct 09, 2016
SAAF Gripen D cockpit

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:02pm On Oct 09, 2016
Gabon MRAP in Mali

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 10:02pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
not being able to maintain a MIG-21 is now a political problem or a poorly protected border or coastline ! we simply dont know how to run a country let alone an army

Yes, absolutely. As with most African countries maybe those migs ended up that way because military appointments were made by tribal or perceived loyalty rather than merit. Or the money was misappropriated by officials who were appointed politically. Don't you think Africa would benefit more by not having any borders?

Don't be so pessimistic with good governance all this issues can be fixed and Africa can thrive. It would only take one generation to catch up with Europe.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:04pm On Oct 09, 2016
Senegalese Police, Mali

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:08pm On Oct 09, 2016
africaken254:
can't solve insurgencies and terrorism from groups poorly funded in our continent (just imagine an african country facing well funded insurgent groups like assad is facing.how long would it take before such a state collapses.we can't even maintain simple airframes like MIG-21,most air force in this continent have air crafts rusting on backyards of their air bases

africa is not poor but stupid,incompetent,subservient,non progressive e.t.c problems that can be solved a high school graduate can't be solved even by a university graduate.the rest of the world have transformed their agriculture sector,but we are still starving to death.in the past for every 5 peace keepers in africa only 1 was african. with help from foreign countries now its for 5 peace keepers 2 are from africa. border security is non existence in most of our countries.we can't protect our coastal waters from illegal fishing,let along piracy. proliferation of small arms is serious problem due to porous borders,failed states,civil wars e.t.c
I'll support this.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 10:08pm On Oct 09, 2016
Odunayaw:
cool pyromania 101

Criminals.

These boys are very tough when harassing civilians but flee in fear when in combat with Haram

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:11pm On Oct 09, 2016
Henry240:


Pakistan is a dirt poor country which has no business owning nuclear weapons, that huge amount of F-16s or that much equipment. Why don't you leave Kenya and go live in Pakistan.

Jordan a country with no natural resources has the best educated people in the middle-east, and a very high standard of leaving. They didn't get there by spending all their money on F-16s. Jordan receives considerable aid and security guarantees from the US. Jordan is no Yemen.


Southern Turkey is No safer than North-East Nigeria. Infact many areas of Southern Turkey are considerably worse than N.E Nigeria, despite massive defence spending.

For the so called big countries in Africa, Defence spending, a Defence cap of $4 billion is adequate for our security requirements.
a defence cap of $4 billion is enough !what if tomorrow you become the next ghadafi or ukraine,is it that time you would be looking for arms dealers !jordan is no yemen but the threat still exist ,jordanians aren't getting handouts and sitting on their a$$.they are doing a lot to improve their country.even if they receive military AID from america,jordan has done a lot to be self reliant .from manufacturing their helmets,boots,uniforms,drone,Meal, Ready-to-Eat (MRE) Pakistan is a dirt poor country but could be ranked as the fourth richest economy in africa
at least they envision progress in their countries,we on the other hand.just want to sell oil,minerals e.t.c just to buy weapons off late we are buying from this same countries.

John F. Kennedy said 'We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:29pm On Oct 09, 2016
Tinfoil:


Yes, absolutely. As with most African countries maybe those migs ended up that way because military appointments were made by tribal or perceived loyalty rather than merit. Or the money was misappropriated by officials who were appointed politically. Don't you think Africa would benefit more by not having any borders?

Don't be so pessimistic with good governance all this issues can be fixed and Africa can thrive. It would only take one generation to catch up with Europe.
i can conclude by saying we are the rich man living in a mansion,with a guard at his gate who he pays peanuts.during the libya crisis ,AU had no say even neighbouring countries on what was going on in libya but today those same countries are paying the price for a crisis started by outsiders

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 12:12am On Oct 10, 2016
jakeporeshenko:
IED or just stuck in a ditch ?

stuck in a ditch
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:41am On Oct 10, 2016
Tour of NNS Unity's bridge. Nice video




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_nAw6Ku9s

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 7:51am On Oct 10, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:23am On Oct 10, 2016
House Committee on Navy visits naval formation.


House Committee members pictured inside NNS Karaduwa's bridge.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:01am On Oct 10, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 10:28am On Oct 10, 2016
Fully kitted KDF Special Forces ready for orders

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:42am On Oct 10, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:56am On Oct 10, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:29am On Oct 10, 2016
bidexiii:


stuck in a ditch
thats an IED strike,some of them are not that powerful
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:35am On Oct 10, 2016
off topic:an american naval ship missed by two anti-ship missiles fired from the yemen coast,piracy is no longer the threat to shipping near this waters
-Egypt and Russia discussing the possibility of long-term lease for military base in Sidi Barrani, near Libya
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:18pm On Oct 10, 2016
KDF Special forces

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 1:50pm On Oct 10, 2016
jakeporeshenko:
KDF Special forces

Why no individual radios
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 1:59pm On Oct 10, 2016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:06pm On Oct 10, 2016
We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 2h2 hours ago
The two Helicopters are part of the 10 aircraft in Presidential Air Fleet. They were acquired on 20 Oct 2014
and 21 May 2015 respectively

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
This is 2nd handover of aircraft from Presidential Air Fleet to Nigerian Air Force. 1st handover was in 2015, shortly after PMB took over.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
The first handover of Pres Air Fleet aircraft involved two Helicopters, handed over to Air Force in 2015 to boost operations in Northeast

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Contracts for the 2 brand new PAF Helicopters being handed over today were awarded in 2014. Delivery on 20 Oct 2014 and 21 May 2015.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
The two aircraft being handed over today are AgustaWestland AW101 helicopters.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
The two aircraft being handed over today possess Ballistics defence capabilities, & are equipped against certain forms of missile attacks
Something keeps telling me they are the most advanced aircraft the NAF will be operating in terms of ECM.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff AVM Abubakar: "It is with a big sense of appreciation that I accept these helicopters into the Air Force."

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: One of the helicopters will be configured & deployed as an Air Ambulance, while 2nd will be deployed as a Troop Carrier


We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: The two Helicopters will be immediately reconfigured and deployed to the Northeast for the use of Nigerian troops.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: The Air Ambulance will carry a Trauma Unit,to ensure that injured troops get immediate medical assistance during airlift

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: These helicopters are some of the most sophisticated, most comfortable and most equipped in the world.


We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff AVM Abubakar: We can't wait to fly our new aircraft. That's why we're all dressed in combat gear

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:11pm On Oct 10, 2016
kenyan army Recruits undertaking Fire and Manoeuver training drill at Marigat Battle Training Field.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:30pm On Oct 10, 2016
tdayof:
‏This is 2nd handover of aircraft from Presidential Air Fleet to Nigerian Air Force. 1st handover was in 2015, shortly after PMB took over.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
The first handover of Pres Air Fleet aircraft involved two Helicopters, handed over to Air Force in 2015 to boost operations in Northeast

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Contracts for the 2 brand new PAF Helicopters being handed over today were awarded in 2014. Delivery on 20 Oct 2014 and 21 May 2015.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
The two aircraft being handed over today are AgustaWestland AW101 helicopters.


Something keeps telling me they are the most advanced aircraft the NAF will be operating in terms of ECM.

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff AVM Abubakar: "It is with a big sense of appreciation that I accept these helicopters into the Air Force."

We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: One of the helicopters will be configured & deployed as an Air Ambulance, while 2nd will be deployed as a Troop Carrier



We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff: These helicopters are some of the most sophisticated, most comfortable and most equipped in the world.


We ASOcial ‏@DigiCommsNG 1h1 hour ago
Chief of Air Staff AVM Abubakar: We can't wait to fly our new aircraft. That's why we're all dressed in combat gear


jakeporeshenko, i believe these series of tweets answers your question on counter-measures for Eagle One, NAF 001.


It also further confirms the comments made by Deathmachine on the deployment of AW-139 from the PAF to NAF.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:31pm On Oct 10, 2016
2 AW-101 being transferred from the presidential air wing to NAF.

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