TV01:


...a dimwit with gender dysphoria

More evidence that you are not only an abuser but also a bully.

TV01:


What you are on about? What your point is. Is divorce permitted scripturally - for any reason? What is the scriptural response to "abuse" - of any kind?

Answer the question and move on. Is abuse scriptural?

TV01:


...oh dearie me...I'm going to have to get the pictures out

Better do.

TV01:


...it is you who has trivialised marriage - which is till death do part - according to the bible. By seeming to suggest that divorce should be allowed for abuse - playing to the gallery of the "worship ma feelins" crowd .

Knowing what the bible says, and being unable to refute or respond affirming your implicit suggestion, in the face of the sound exegesis you have been hose-piped with , you are now trying to claim "trivialisation". It's the old "has God truly said" ruse. It will not work here .

TV01:


The bible does not permit dissolution of a consummated marital union for any reason. True Christians will not abuse their spouses - in the event of "problems", they will seek, forgiveness, healing and restoration, not divorce.

I've heard you that the bible does not permit dissolution of a consummated marriage but are you a true Christian? Do you abuse your spouse?

TV01:


You know full well the bible does not permit divorce, but you pivoted your OP on divorce. Not the basis of solid marriages at foundation, how to ensure unions are robust, or remedies for abuse, incipient or aggravated.

There's nothing stopping you from showing how unions can be made robust.

TV01:


That's why you got lots of applause from assorted "feelins chasers" and twice divorced husband snatchers - which is presumably what you were after . You have craftily questioned the holy writ, debased true marriage, pushed divorce and valorised abuse. Shame on you .

See pot calling kettle black.

TV01:


You entertain me? You are for my amusement. I'm toying with you - although fast tiring of that .


TV

Keep playing to the gallery.

orunto27:


Yes, you're right. That's the reason for the case in the first instance. Reporting is Prayer. Request for Return to Status quo.

You mean reporting the matter to Baba God?

Mindfulness:


I feel perfectly healthy so I will stay away.

Marriage was instituted by God, are you saying you're staying away?

Mindfulness:


To each their own.

I only hope Christians are true to their profession and not only when it comes to not divorcing.

missjo:


Thought so too.

I can only hope that he is not as bad as he is portraying himself here.

That's Prayer. Reporting to Aba Father is confirming Him as "The Only Reason for doing What we do all the Time".

OLAADEGBU:


Apologies accepted, don't do that again.

Yes, uncle.

As for TV he's got no leg to stand on.

You and TV have the same beliefs from what I know of you both, at least as regards divorce, and your comments on this thread.
Referring to him as an abuser because he approaches the topic dispassionately is womanly. Is there anything he has said that you do not believe in? If so, please it/them out.

Timbuktou:
You and TV have the same beliefs from what I know of you both, at least as regards divorce, and your comments on this thread. Referring to him as an abuser because he approaches the topic dispassionately is womanly. Is there anything he has said that you do not believe in? If so, please it/them out.

On the face of it maybe, but in action Olaadegbu is neither fish nor fowl. He knows the truth of Gods word. No divorce, but he ardently desires the approval of the unrepentant serial divorcees and fornicators who have swarmed this thread, hence him not making that assertion ab initio.

Instead making it sound like divorce is a solution to the nebulously framed "abuse" he presented. Wolf in sheeps clothing . What Ola should have done - if not for his love of applause & validation from men - is too have made the biblical position clear, and presented biblically based criteria to avoid abuse foundationally, or remedy it should it occur post nuptials.

Now he's stuck, so he's making it personal - don't they all - trying to paint me as an abuser . After I clearly stated that abuse has no place in a Christian marriage, and should not actually be found in any well-constituted union. Let me go and bring pictures

TV01:
You are still flailing about trying to make sense of this. Firstly, a Christian marriage built on the right foundations will not have such serious issues. Non-Christian marriages sef.

TV01:
...and following, is there any Chriistian writ to marry or conduct marriage with abuse as a subtext ?

TV01:
Are you irretrievably dull ? What you wrote up there is akin to saying "my bank doesn't allow overdrafts, therefore it's ok to steal" . Let me ask you - does the bible permit or condone abuse?

TV01:
If abuse - as opposed to low level conflict - occurs in a marriage, spouses should seek immediate resolution. Even low level conflict should not be a feature of a healthy marriage, let alone a christian one. Love & submission. How hard is that ?

OLAADEGBU:
More evidence that you are not only an abuser but also a bully. Answer the question and move on. Is abuse scriptural?

I've heard you that the bible does not permit dissolution of a consummated marriage but are you a true Christian? Do you abuse your spouse?

Querying my marriage - The serial divorcee and husband rustler he smooches with, and embraces the ignorant fornicator. Ask missjo for the spade when she's done!


TV

TV01:

On the face of it maybe, but in action Olaadegbu is neither fish nor fowl. He knows the truth of Gods word. No divorce, but he ardently desires the approval of the unrepentant serial divorcees and fornicators who have swarmed this thread, hence him not making that assertion ab initio.

Instead making it sound like divorce is a solution to the nebulously framed "abuse" he presented. Wolf in sheeps clothing . What Ola should have done - if not for his love of applause & validation from men - is too have made the biblical position clear, and presented biblically based criteria to avoid abuse foundationally, or remedy it should it occur post nuptials.

Now he's stuck, so he's making it personal - don't they all - trying to paint me as an abuser . After I clearly stated that abuse has no place in a Christian marriage, and should not actually be found in any well-constituted union. Let me go and bring pictures




Querying my marriage - The serial divorcee and husband rustler he smooches with, and embraces the ignorant fornicator. Ask missjo for the spade when she's done!


TV

Baba, which one be husband-rustler again? .

Per Adegbulu, he did seem biased toward women, which is why I'd assumed he actually is in support of divorce. I just gave him the benefit of the doubt of trying to pass the message indirectly. Sort of him playing devil's advocate, no pun intended.

OLAADEGBU, I ask again, what makes TV an abuser? Or does he have to argue the Bible apologetically like you seem to be doing. Seeming to not have confidence in what you espouse?

Timbuktou:
Baba, which one be husband-rustler again? .

Back in the wild west, the sentence for rustling - horses or cattle - was capital. Even if we no longer stone them, they shouldn't be allowed in polite company - not to mention casually taking the scriptures into their "chop and clean" mouths

Timbuktou:
Per Adegbulu, he did seem biased toward women, which is why I'd assumed he actually is in support of divorce. I just gave him the benefit of the doubt of trying to pass the message indirectly. Sort of him playing devil's advocate, no pun intended.

You shouldn't have retracted - he subtly hinted at it - or made it ambiguous - 5 time on the first page alone. Like I said, wolf. Pickabeau1 put it best, Christianity and feminism are like oil and water. He best choose who he wants to serve and do it wholeheartedly.

Timbuktou:
OLAADEGBU, I ask again, what makes TV an abuser? Or does he have to argue the Bible apologetically like you seem to be doing. Seeming to not have confidence in what you espouse?

I'm an abuser because I make no bones about presenting the bible as I truly believe it - even if wrong, I am happy to be challenged. Note how he has not made one reference to scripture. Baba nla feel good preacher .


TV

TV01:
Back in the wild west, the sentence for rustling - horses or cattle - was capital. Even if we no longer stone them, they shouldn't be allowed in polite company - not to mention casually taking the scriptures into their "chop and clean" mouths

Fully agree with the bolded. But what is "polite conversation" these days. Isn't it a sign of progressive wisdom to accept these rustlers as just people going after what they want? Isn't that the problem with this section? The sharp divergence of marital values? Isn't that why you're a "misogynist"?

You shouldn't have retracted - he subtly hinted at it - or made it ambiguous - 5 time on the first page alone. Like I said, wolf. Pickabeau1 put it best, Christianity and feminism are like oil and water. He best choose who he wants to serve and do it wholeheartedly.

I could have pressed, but I was frankly in ni mood to argue, haven't been in a while. And as he has shown, he'll just go the Mindfulness route, which I have no patience for.

I'm an abuser because I make no bones about presenting the bible as I truly believe it - even if wrong, I am happy to be challenged. Note how he has not made one reference to scripture. Baba nla feel good preacher .


TV

Maybe he's trying to solicit offerings? . You can't upset the people's feelz too much.

Timbuktou:
Maybe he's trying to solicit offerings? . You can't upset the people's feelz too much.

Maybe offerings = "Likes"; sadder than I imagined .

On another note, my man started school this past September. He's doing so well I'm made up. Chip off the old block


TV

TV01:

Maybe offerings = "Likes"; sadder than I imagined .

On another note, my man started school this past September. He's doing so well I'm made up. Chip off the old block


TV

You know how it is with them Francesca types na. . The hunt for the ever fickle female validation will run him mad eventually.

Great news, bruv. I pray he excels beyond your hopes. It's always comforting to see the next generation of soldiers being groomed. With the rise of foolishness, too many effete men running around these days. Send regards from me, and the Queen and Princess, of course.

Timbuktou:
Great news, bruv. I pray he excels beyond your hopes. It's always comforting to see the next generation of soldiers being groomed. With the rise of foolishness, too many effete men running around these days. Send regards from me, and the Queen and Princess, of course.

Graciás - may the Lord bless us in our generations - even those yet unseen - and give us the grace to raise our sons to "quit themselves like men" and raise accomplished daughters to become the choice and cherish of such men".

TV

TV01:

Graciás - may the Lord bless us in our generations - even those yet unseen - and give us the grace to raise our sons to "quit themselves like men" and raise accomplished daughters to become the choice and cherish of such men".

TV

Amen. Adura nla. So shall it be.

TV01:

Querying my marriage - The serial divorcee and husband rustler he smooches with, and embraces the ignorant fornicator. Ask missjo for the spade when she's done!


TV

I'm very sorry to have quoted you earlier trying to relate your Christian values with the way you insult,talkdown,and bully people here. I was genuinely curious,but it's obvious your ego got a hit and now you can't get over it even after I wished you a lovely week.

Do have a lovely week once more.

OLAADEGBU:


I can only hope that he is not as bad as he is portraying himself here.

He may not be,however he does have insecurities.

missjo:

I'm very sorry to have quoted you earlier trying to relate your Christian values with the way you insult,talkdown,and bully people here. I was genuinely curious,but it's obvious your ego got a hit and now you can't get over it even after I wished you a lovely week.

Do have a lovely week once more.

missjo:

He may not be,however he does have insecurities.

You are a plain-faced, brown-nosing dullard, who offers little more than nuisance value!

Do have a pleasant evening


TV

^{...I learn fast and l like this game}

Why not if not...

TV01:

Because;
1. Physical abuse could be mild
2. it could be a one-off, situationally driven event
3. It could be dealt with effectively - healing and reconciliation should always be the first recourse
4. It's not given as grounds for divorce
5. There are no grounds for divorce in a consummated marriage

Further, even if you separate (you cannot remarry) unless your spouse dies - I am not counselling murder 0! - even if you call that separation "divorce". That's Christianity - I didn't write the rules


TV

Some pastors divorce for lesser reasons, are you saying they are going to hell? Even someone like Pastor Chris Oyakhilome whose wife divorced him for irreconcilable differences?

OLAADEGBU:
Does an abused wife have to stay with her husband?

There is no ground for divorce in Christianity, that's why in some denomination, they stress on praying before u choose ur partner so that when fault comes you can go back to God and say, "see the husband/wife you have given me o, dp something about it"

Stay but not when your stay become dangerous. Wisdom is profitable to direct though. I wish you well.

Yes it a very good reason.. Too many animals out there...Men&women inclusive

OLAADEGBU:
Does an abused wife have to stay with her husband?

NO. Physical Abuse, Financial Abuse, Verbal Abuse, in short all forms of abuse are not acceptable...........

What a deeply dumb question from a secular POV. If abuse isn't a good reason for divorce, then what the Bleep is a good reason for divorce?

To a christian.NO.unlest death do u part.To a muslim.No.unless d husband see the fourth wife and u a gone.to a pagan.YES

Don't be fast to judge. What does op mean by abuse? Also, what ignited the abuse? Again, we must understand we are human beings, desperate times call for desperate measures. A partner could lead the other to abuse him/her, to have an excuse to destroy the home. Look who told you that Husband and Wife no de do wrestling? Why should a Woman not be slapped, beaten or corrected. As u Marry am is she not as good as your younger Brothers and sisters you beat. Abeg for this Naija if your partner mess up collect am well if not u will die of Blood pressure

crackhaus:

My dear, trust me...I don't know how to deceive myself, which is why I'm not a regular church goer so I can't really qualify as an effective believer.

Which is why I stand by this:


[size=16pt]It isn't by force to have a Christian (church) marriage when you believe in divorce.[/size]

I've said my own.

You are not answering the question. If you say you made a vow to be with the person till death, they also made a vow to love, cherish and respect you and anyone who abuses his partner is obviously breaking that vow as well, so what stops you from breaking your own vow, remember it takes 2 to make it work. Besides, if you are being abused seriously and you stick there and get killed eventually, i believe you have committed sucide cos you knowingly allowed yourself to be killed, God frowns at suicide you know.

Until she's beaten to death abi?
Any man that physically abuses a woman is a coward!

BLACKPANTHER:
Don't be fast to judge. What does op mean by abuse? Also, what ignited the abuse? Again, we must understand we are human beings, desperate times call for desperate measures. A partner could lead the other to abuse him/her, to have an excuse to destroy the home. Look who told you that Husband and Wife no de do wrestling? Why should a Woman not be slapped, beaten or corrected. As u Marry am is she not as good as your younger Brothers and sisters you beat. Abeg for this Naija if your partner mess up collect am well if not u will die of Blood pressure

If i call you an idiot will the mods ban me?

OLAADEGBU:
Does an abused wife have to stay with her husband?

In Nigeria yes. In normal countries, No.

TV01:

A Christian can by all means separate if they feels they are in real danger, but it is not grounds for divorce. Not to mention that "abuse" covers an almost interminable spectrum these days.


TV

Are you high? I bet you won't be saying this if you were a woman.