I am tired of you guys blowing things out of proportion

Lana1:

To be honest, wen ve u ever seen Mourinho go out and play attacking, entertaining football against a major rival?? Everything he knows na just boring Park the bus type of football.

Mourinho is a useless and boring manager!!

real madrid 2 vs 1 bayern 2012 UCL semi final

possession

madrid 53%--47% bayern

shots (on target)

madrid 12(7)--17(9) bayern

corners

madrid 5--5 bayen

fouls

madrid 10--24 bayern

madrid 1 vs 1 man utd UCL 2013 round of 16

possession

madrid 54--46 manu

shots (on target)

madrid 29(14)--11(6) manu

corners

madrid 12--8 manu

fouls

madrid 14--10 manu

bayern 0--2 inter UCL final 2010

possession

bayen 59--41 inter

shots (on target)

bayern 17(10)--9(7) inter


corners

bayern 7--2 inter

fouls

bayern 14--10 inter.

chelsea 1-0 manu fa cup final 2007

possession

chelsea 50%--50% manu

shots (on target)

chelsea 18(4)--12(4)

corners

chelsea 1-6 manu

fouls

Chelsea 18-18 manu

chelsea 2-1 arsenal carling cup final 2007

possession

chelsea 49%--51% arsenal

shots (on target)

chelsea 9(3)--10(6)

corners

chelsea 2--6 arsenal.

weedtaker:
how's jose different? dis ur opata yarns don de get out of hand, you mean win anyhow by winning the league with the highest point and least conceded goals abi with scoring the highest number of goals? fergie left us as champions and we finished 7th, na fergie abi moyes we go blame? you just keep disgracing yourself, well what do one expect from someone who thinks ali is on par [if not better] than pogba simply because they both post the same stats last season.

Actually Pogba is better. I made an error obviously. Everyone can see Ali is one of the worst passer in the epl right now. So pardon my error.
Fergie left us with a team that even the best coach in the world can't work with. If you believe otherwise na you sabi. I blame SAF for that. That he was able to get the results he got from that team says a lot. A legend.

Lana1:

I am not a Mourinho fan but you are wrong by saying we parked-the-bus against Watford and Feyenoord.

These are stats to put everything in proper perspective.

Away to Watford

40% possession 60%

10. Shots 15

5 On target 2

5 Corners 7

Away to Feyenoord

43 Possession 57

8 Shots 18

3 On Target 4

4 Corners 4

Now tell me how we're parking the bus.
If we are losing or drawing matches because we are not being clinical enough olin front of goal or making defensive mistake, it is quite different.

eph12:

Actually Pogba is better. I made an error obviously. Everyone can see Ali is one of the worst passer in the epl right now. So pardon my error.

Sarcasm?

dopeJemi:


And how exactly did we park the bus against those teams? I thought we lost those games 3-1, 2-1 and 1-0? I thought parking the bus prevents your opponents from scoring plenty goals?

Not necessarily....



Now lemme give you 2 examples of bus parking

Barca vs chelsea 2012

Bayern vs Atletico 2016

In which of those games did we park the bus like chelsea and Atletico against barca and bayern?

I still dunno why you are always too quick to defend Mourihno untop this Bus-parking tactic when it's a Strategy that would always be synonymous with him.

Instead of the Examples you gave, i'd rather go with these Chelsea Games under Mourihno (during his second spell at the club)....

Vs Man Utd (at Oldtrafford that ended 0-0 in the 2013/14 season under Moyes). I remember Chelsea started that game with no recognized Striker yet Costa or Eto (cant really remember) were on the bench.

Vs Liverpool at Anfield (the Match wey Gerard's mistake cost him a PL title).

Mourihno made a defensive sub against 10 man Psg and Chelsea were still knocked out of the CL in that match

dopeJemi:


And how exactly did we park the bus against those teams? I thought we lost those games 3-1, 2-1 and 1-0? I thought parking the bus prevents your opponents from scoring plenty goals?

Now lemme give you 2 examples of bus parking

Barca vs chelsea 2012

Bayern vs Atletico 2016

In which of those games did we park the bus like chelsea and Atletico against barca and bayern?

Is it not funny that we lost the games you claimed we parked the bus in?

I don't think I have ever criticised Jose about parking the bus. I just want to correct that your last sentence. It is very possible to park the bus and still lose.
That said I was among those that cheered Chelsea when they eliminated Barcelona that year by parking the bus so I am a fan of bus parking when that's your best only option.

SIRcumalot:

Sarcasm?

Abeg no cause another quarrel o

José's pack de bus porto 2-1 fergies attacking man-united UCL Ro16 first leg


shots (on goal)

porto 18(11)--4(3) man-u

corners

porto 5--1 man u

fouls

porto 19--21 man-u

offside

porto 0---8 man u.


fergies attacking united 1-1 José's park de bus porto

shots (on target)

man u 3(2)--9(5) porto

corners

man u 5--0 porto

fouls

man u 21--17 porto

offside

man u 3--7 porto.

parked de bus against Watford and feyernoord ? Smh. at least we're getting to know people who don't watch our games.

dopeJemi:


And how exactly did we park the bus against those teams? I thought we lost those games 3-1, 2-1 and 1-0? I thought parking the bus prevents your opponents from scoring plenty goals?

Now lemme give you 2 examples of bus parking

Barca vs chelsea 2012

Bayern vs Atletico 2016

In which of those games did we park the bus like chelsea and Atletico against barca and bayern?

Is it not funny that we lost the games you claimed we parked the bus in?

Lol. In what Universe is it a stated rule that whoever parks the bus still cant lose?? Parking the bus prevents ur opponents from scoring plenty goals. But it doesn't guarantee that u'll win.

Mourinho parked the bus against 10 man Psg and still lost.
Hull City parked against us and still lost.



Against Feyenoord, early in the 2nd half,we were camped in our half and Rashford was isolated up front on so many occassions. Even when the ball was in their half, our midfielders didn't cross the half way line. And we didn't come out to attack until Zlatan came in and we were searching for the equalizer.

I dont need to analyse how the first against City went coz i'm sure u still remember vividly how the half went. And to buttress my point, we were losing at half time despite all our parking during the first half.

Against Watford, we were parking as usual in the 2nd half until a lucky break led to our equalizer. Despite the equalizer and at a time we were supposed to be pushing to win the win the match, go check how many of our players were behind the ball when Watford scored their second. We parked to the extent that Pogba was passing ball to ref


At least Chelsea back then and Atletico used to park bus with purpose. Them go park, counter and still go on to win. A very good example na Chelsea vs Barca 2012.
But for us, we just dey park to avoid defeat. Park Bus and hope for the best.

U people go on and on about how Pep is a fraud. Well me i say Mourinho is a very useless manager with rubbish one-way tactics!!

AdisaOwala:


I still dunno why you are always too quick to defend Mourihno untop this Bus-parking tactic when it's a Strategy that would always be synonymous with him.

Instead of the Examples you gave, i'd rather go with these Chelsea Games under Mourihno (during his second spell at the club)....

Vs Man Utd (at Oldtrafford that ended 0-0 in the 2013/14 season under Moyes). I remember Chelsea started that game with no recognized Striker yet Costa or Eto (cant really remember) were on the bench.

Vs Liverpool at Anfield (the Match wey Gerard's mistake cost him a PL title).

Mourihno made a defensive sub against 10 man Psg and Chelsea were still knocked out of the CL in that match

I am not defending Jose's park the bus tactic, we all know him for that but saying we've been parking the bus under Jose this season is a very big lie

Which team parks the bus and still record this amazing stats?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/man-united-been-premier-leagues-8933300

eph12:

I don't think I have ever criticised Jose about parking the bus. I just want to correct that your last sentence. It is very possible to park the bus and still lose.
That said I was among those that cheered Chelsea when they eliminated Barcelona that year by parking the bus so I am a fan of bus parking when that's your best only option.

yes oh....

Bus Parking dey sweet atimes

My favorite Bus-Parking game (and one of my favorite matches in recent times) na that Barca vs Inter Game (2nd leg CL Semi final) wey Busquets act film and Thiago Motta was sent off very early in the game. Mehn - Inter Milan players fought like Gallant Soldiers till the end - Special shout outs to the likes of Walter Samuel, Lucio, Chivu, Julio Caesar (he pulled off an unbelievable save that night) & Cambiasso (i'd say that his performance that night was the best in his career)

I Still remember Mourihno running upandan the pitch like a madman when the final whistle sounded

Lana1:
Lol. In what Universe is it a stated rule that whoever parks the bus still cant lose?? Parking the bus prevents ur opponents from scoring plenty goals. But it doesn't guarantee that u'll win.

Mourinho parked the bus against 10 man Psg and still lost.
Hull City parked against us and still lost.



Against Feyenoord, early in the 2nd half,we were camped in our half and Rashford was isolated up front on so many occassions. Even when the ball was in their half, our midfielders didn't cross the half way line. And we didn't come out to attack until Zlatan came in and we were searching for the equalizer.

I dont need to analyse how the first against City went coz i'm sure u still remember vividly how the half went. And to buttress my point, we were losing at half time despite all our parking during the first half.

Against Watford, we were parking as usual in the 2nd half until a lucky break led to our equalizer. Despite the equalizer and at a time we were supposed to be pushing to win the win the match, go check how many of our players were behind the ball when Watford scored their second. We parked to the extent that Pogba was passing ball to ref


At least Chelsea back then and Atletico used to park bus with purpose. Them go park, counter and still go on to win. A very good example na Chelsea vs Barca 2012.
But for us, we just dey park to avoid defeat. Park Bus and hope for the best.

U people go on and on about how Pep is a fraud. Well me i say Mourinho is a very useless manager with rubbish one-way tactics!!

Really? When a team parks the bus, they are supposed to have less possession/ see less of the ball but in those games against Feyenoord and watford we had more possession, more passes completion, more shots, more corners

How is that? How can a team park the bus and still beat its opponent In every positive statistics? I'm finding it difficult to understand

Can you also explain how boring mourinho's team has created more chances per possession than any other team in the top flight? How can a park the bus team achieve such?

weedtaker:

real madrid 2 vs 1 bayern 2012 UCL semi final

possession

madrid 53%--47% bayern

shots (on target)

madrid 12(7)--17(9) bayern

corners

madrid 5--5 bayen

fouls

madrid 10--24 bayern

madrid 1 vs 1 man utd UCL 2013 round of 16

possession

madrid 54--46 manu

shots (on target)

madrid 29(14)--11(6) manu

corners

madrid 12--8 manu

fouls

madrid 14--10 manu

bayern 0--2 inter UCL final 2010

possession

bayen 59--41 inter

shots (on target)

bayern 17(10)--9(7) inter


corners

bayern 7--2 inter

fouls

bayern 14--10 inter.

chelsea 1-0 manu fa cup final 2007

possession

chelsea 50%--50% manu

shots (on target)

chelsea 18(4)--12(4)

corners

chelsea 1-6 manu

fouls

Chelsea 18-18 manu

chelsea 2-1 arsenal carling cup final 2007

possession

chelsea 49%--51% arsenal

shots (on target)

chelsea 9(3)--10(6)

corners

chelsea 2--6 arsenal.

Lol!! I no get time now to go dey verify all dis stats wey u post for here. But isn't it funny that in all the games u listed it was only one(madrid vs United) in which Mourinho's team was clearly the better team with more possession and more chances created??

eph12:

I don't think I have ever criticised Jose about parking the bus. I just want to correct that your last sentence. It is very possible to park the bus and still lose.
That said I was among those that cheered Chelsea when they eliminated Barcelona that year by parking the bus so I am a fan of bus parking when that's your best only option.

There is no correction to be made, I never said you can't lose when you park the bus

That statement was based on our lackadaisical performance against those teams, reminiscent of LVG's days at the club, how can man united park the bus against lower teams like watford and Feyenoord and still get beaten 3-1, 2-1?

It's very funny

weedtaker:
parked de bus against Watford and feyernoord ? Smh. at least we're getting to know people who don't watch our games.

Lol. Na so.

I sure say i dey watch United games pass u. And for all we know, e fit be Livescores u dey refresh every matchday sef.

I missed the bus!

AdisaOwala:


I still dunno why you are always too quick to defend Mourihno untop this Bus-parking tactic when it's a Strategy that would always be synonymous with him.

Instead of the Examples you gave, i'd rather go with these Chelsea Games under Mourihno (during his second spell at the club)....

Vs Man Utd (at Oldtrafford that ended 0-0 in the 2013/14 season under Moyes). I remember Chelsea started that game with no recognized Striker yet Costa or Eto (cant really remember) were on the bench.

Vs Liverpool at Anfield (the Match wey Gerard's mistake cost him a PL title).

Mourihno made a defensive sub against 10 man Psg and Chelsea were still knocked out of the CL in that match

He didn't have any of the two in his team then. He bought Etoo close to the shut of the transfer window while Costa was bought the following season.

However, he had Lukaku and Torres whom he brought on in 60mins. I don't think you can say he parked the bus in that game.

dopeJemi:


There is no correction to be made, I never said you can't lose when you park the bus

That statement was based on our lackadaisical performance against those teams, reminiscent of LVG's days at the club, how can man united park the bus against lower teams like watford and Feyenoord and still get beaten 3-1, 2-1?

It's very funny

It that lackadaisical or disjointed performance that's causing me to worry. I don't understand how people analyse matches here. Sometimes I am just surprised that people are comfortable with how we play. We could have just left LVG if this was what we wanted. And nobody should tell me anything about new manager. We can't spend that much and still be praying for the player to adjust or fit in. Am just wondering what would have been our reactions if that Can or Coutinho ball went in. As in I don't understand when LFC became Barcelona or bayern o. That means if we wan play arsenal we go hmmm

eph12:

It that lackadaisical or disjointed performance that's causing me to worry. I don't understand how people analyse matches here. Sometimes I am just surprised that people are comfortable with how we play. We could have just left LVG if this was what we wanted. And nobody should tell me anything about new manager. We can't spend that much and still be praying for the player to adjust or fit in. Am just wondering what would have been our reactions if that Can or Coutinho ball went in. As in I don't understand when LFC became Barcelona or bayern o. That means if we wan play arsenal we go hmmm

Nobody is saying we shouldn't be worried about all the mistakes we're making. We still have to give the manager a chance or do you want him to be sacked right now?

eph12:

It that lackadaisical or disjointed performance that's causing me to worry. I don't understand how people analyse matches here. Sometimes I am just surprised that people are comfortable with how we play. We could have just left LVG if this was what we wanted. And nobody should tell me anything about new manager. We can't spend that much and still be praying for the player to adjust or fit in. Am just wondering what would have been our reactions if that Can or Coutinho ball went in. As in I don't understand when LFC became Barcelona or bayern o. That means if we wan play arsenal we go hmmm

I can say we have improved a lot compared to last season and two seasons ago, the percentage of our fluid and attacking football is higher than the percentage of our drab football which wasn't the case under van gaal

The amount spent on a player doesn't necessarily mean he'll fit in like a condom on a peni.s, (bale in his first season) comes to mind, we've been mostly boring to watch in the past under van gaal, you don't expect us to just revert completely to our default attacking mode because we signed a player for 90m and brought in a new coach, it's very easy to destroy but building takes process

Man city under pellegrini played good attacking football, that hasn't changed under pep, we on the other hand didn't and you can see improvement under Jose, we are creating more chances, the most chances actually, having more shots on goal coupled with some breath taking football

tess1:


Nobody is saying we shouldn't be worried about all the mistakes we're making. We still have to give the manager a chance or do you want him to be sacked right now?

Sacked ke. Who will come in? Of course he is not going anywhere for now. I really wish to see him succeed at United if not for anything but for the glory of United.

tess1:


He didn't have any of the two in his team then. He bought Etoo close to the shut of the transfer window while Costa was bought the following season.

However, he had Lukaku and Torres whom he brought on in 60mins. I don't think you can say he parked the bus in that game.

Aha....

Mourihno had two centre-fowards on the bench and i think Demba Ba was a chelsea player at the time, yet he decided to start the game "Strikerless"

Torres came on...same way Azpilicueta & Mikel came on for Hazard and Schurlle respectively and you say he no park bus?

dopeJemi:


I can say we have improved a lot compared to last season and two seasons ago, the percentage of our fluid and attacking football is higher than the percentage of our drab football which wasn't the case under van gaal

The amount spent on a player doesn't necessarily mean he'll fit in like a condom on a peni.s, (bale in his first season) comes to mind, we've been mostly boring to watch in the past under van gaal, you don't expect us to just revert completely to our default attacking mode because we signed a player for 90m and brought in a new coach, it's very easy to destroy but building takes process

Man city under pellegrini played good attacking football, that hasn't changed under pep, we on the other hand didn't and you can see improvement under Jose, we are creating more chances, the most chances actually, having more shots on goal coupled with some breath taking football

Gareth Bale's 1st season at Madrid was blighted with injuries yet he managed to score 15 goals in 27 league games & 6 goals in 12 CL Matches . He helped his team win the Copa Del Rey and CL by scoring in both finals (his Breathtaking goal vs Barca in the CDR final readily comes to mind)

parrotibaba:
we just need a win today, the squad will be heavily rotated so I don't expect us to run over fenerbache.

Say rashford grabs a brace against this fenerbache side.
Would you be comfortable starting him ahead of Zlatan for that Sunday game ?

AdisaOwala:


Gareth Bale's 1st season at Madrid was blighted with injuries yet he managed to score 15 goals in 27 league games & 6 goals in 12 CL Matches . He helped his team win the Copa Del Rey and CL by scoring in both finals (his Breathtaking goal vs Barca in the CDR final readily comes to mind)

My bad, I meant Di maria

eph12:

Sacked ke. Who will come in? Of course he is not going anywhere for now. I really wish to see him succeed at United if not for anything but for the glory of United.

Exactly why we need to be patient and give him a chance for at least a season.

Lana1:
Lol. Better dont let the spirit of ollah1 possess u this afternoon. Pep is good. But the moment Pep gets Knighted by the Queen and he wins up to 13 league titles(in a single league) and over 40 titles across all league competitions and cup competitions, then we can start to put Pep in the same sentence as SAF!! That being said, Pep is better than Mourinho. And their head-to-head speaks for itself


That was then. And, imo, sitting back and waiting for counter is much different from Park the bus system like we played in the 2nd half on monday where we had like 8 bodies at the edge of our box.


You are right. SAF used to sit back and wait for counter against teams he thought were better, like Arsenal. And we've also seen him go all out against the same Arsenal and destroy them 8-2. That's a manager who has a plan A and B.

The only tactic he knows is Park the bus. That's his plan A. He has no plan B. I've seen us Park this season against City, Liverpool and even against small teams like Feyenoord and Watford. The few times dis season we ve left our own half and dominated the game and created few chances was against small teams and that was bcoz those teams sat back and allowed us time on the ball.

To be honest, wen ve u ever seen Mourinho go out and play attacking, entertaining football against a major rival?? Everything he knows na just boring Park the bus type of football.

Mourinho is a useless and boring manager!!

Cc nateevs donjazet.

Rooney and Mata with Lingard while Rashford and Memphis is on the bench... lol

I don't even know where to start!! But the fact that the guy doesn't even know the meaning/interpretation of the park-the-bus mantra simply means he is ranting unnecessarily or his understanding of the game is weak.

No Mkhitaryan again. Mourinho what's wrong with you? He needs game time before introducing him to Chelsea.