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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by nmreports: 7:39am On Oct 23, 2016
He meant I am naani.
He is the one true God.
In human form.
Because he and his father are one.
He knows the father and his father knows him.

It's sort of a spiritual declaration.
Our mental capacity may not be able to process a lot of the things of God.

Because, the spiritual works in different way than the natural. How you walk on the moon differs to how we walk on earth.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by cenaboy(m): 7:44am On Oct 23, 2016
I Am means present continuous tense, ie He is God and will continue to be

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Btruth: 7:53am On Oct 23, 2016
It will be surprisingly to the un-believers, because to them, it will be impossible for the son to be the same as the Father. Father & son are the same. So Jesus' claim was right that He is the Father & the Lord too.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Malakh: 7:55am On Oct 23, 2016
not meant for xtians to understand but i'll give a clue Matthew 21:28
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by ilynem(m): 7:57am On Oct 23, 2016
Brigham:
One funny observation about the major theme of Christianity is self defeating.

Why should an all power god have sacrifice himself to himself before men could be forgiven.

That's magnanimous
If it's too difficult for you to understand, why bother?

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by ilynem(m): 8:00am On Oct 23, 2016
Emusan:


It should have been, why does Qur'an called Isa Allah's Spirit and Word?

because I could still remember how Muslims have been going up and down to proof the prophecy of the coming of Muhammad from the same book of John.
Typical Muslims. They knit pick what agrees with the Quran and discard the rest that go against them. Just the same way they pick what makes their religion sound cool from the Hadiths and discard the ones that make them look like utter fools forgetting that these Hadiths where written by Muslim "scholars". And yet they call us the confused ones.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by petsey(m): 8:01am On Oct 23, 2016
I am DAT I am u r worthy.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 8:01am On Oct 23, 2016
Splinz:
Certainly yes, Jesus did declared Himself God, and indeed He is!

Here is the unmistakably prove of it: "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (Exodus 3:14). Also, this is another solid prove that Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament.
excuse me Mr christian....it was not Jesus that made that statement in exodus. It was Jehovah, the creator of Jesus.... Op my question to u is when did Jesus make that "I am" statement? U Dont just quote one phrase from a verse and hope to understand d phrase without looking at d concept where it Was used

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 8:04am On Oct 23, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?
Philipians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.

A big YES!!!

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Danmaiduguri(m): 8:05am On Oct 23, 2016
Emusan:


Yes it is since both The Spirit and Word of Allah are uncreated and only God is uncreated.



So you mean you were once in delusion of Muhammad in the Bible before but now you're free! grin grin grin

You know what start spreading the Gospel of Truth to your fellow Muslims that there was no single prophecy of Muhammad in the Holy Bible. You can begin here by open a thread to release your fellow Muslims who still hold to that delusion.

What you called question isn't a question because what I can infer from your post is a denial of truth with the word "Anonymous writer".

Isaiah 29:12 a book will be given to him saying "Read" He says "i cannot Read".
So can u tell me any prophet in the bible who was given a book and asked to read christians have tried to answer this question many times but could'nt.

Let me tell u who this prophesy refers to.

Quran ch,96:1 "Read in the name of your lord who created you". This is the first revelation sent by God through Archangel Gabriel to Muhammad (PBUH), and He replied with "I cannot Read". he was asked 2 times to read but he replied by "I cannot read" but with the Power of Allah He read it at d 3 try. Refference
(sahih Buhari Book of revelation, Hadith No:3)

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 8:05am On Oct 23, 2016
Rilwayne001:


Does that make him Allah?



Well well, i used to hold that view before, but not any longer. Could you now please answer my question?
bro I no understand for my fellow so called xtians ooo....they never seems to stop disappointing when it comes to misquoting bible....jesus isn't God, he himself said he is not God and he also show that there is someone higher than he who he is subjected to. And Jesus is one of God's creation. Just that according to d bible, my source of belief, he was/is the first creation of God before any other thing or being(including other spirit creaatures)

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by gentyolu(m): 8:06am On Oct 23, 2016
When did he say that....dnt let us be fooled by videos....there was no camera during his time...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by danderson(f): 8:06am On Oct 23, 2016
I remember the Koran warning Moslems to research the Bible if in doubt.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 8:07am On Oct 23, 2016
tintingz:
God in old testament said "I AM that I AM" to Moses while Jesus only said "I AM". How does that mean Jesus was referring to himself as God? There is misinterpretation somewhere.

Jesus said "Before Abraham I AM"
I AM what exactly? I am an angel, slave, spirit, wind? etc

Let's use old testament style: "Before Abraham I AM that I AM"
This make more sense because God has concluded He's I AM that I AM.

The writer of John must have use old testament to suit Jesus being God, unfortunately John writer didn't get it right because God said "I AM that I AM" = twice.
actually Jesus meant he was in existence before abraham...I.e before Abraham, I am(av been) tho as a spirit creature
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by lite15(m): 8:07am On Oct 23, 2016
Scholar8200:
Yes!!! smiley
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Foolish topic to cause confusion between Christians and muslim this sunday sunday morning.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Nobody: 8:09am On Oct 23, 2016
I am that I am meaning that he can never change, he is still the same yesterday, today and forever .
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by sarutobie(m): 8:12am On Oct 23, 2016
tintingz:
God in old testament said "I AM that I AM" to Moses while Jesus only said "I AM". How does that mean Jesus was referring to himself as God? There is misinterpretation somewhere.

Jesus said "Before Abraham I AM"
I AM what exactly? I am an angel, slave, spirit, wind? etc

Let's use old testament style: "Before Abraham I AM that I AM"
This make more sense because God has concluded He's I AM that I AM.

The writer of John must have use old testament to suit Jesus being God, unfortunately John writer didn't get it right because God said "I AM that I AM" = twice.
this right here..Jesus was saying that before Abraham he was and is and is to come..he didn't say he was Jehovah.. I don't know why this topic keeps popping up, Jesus clearly stated this himself a dozen times...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by NovusHomo(m): 8:13am On Oct 23, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?

Jesus ain't sh*t. Fake. Never existed.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Splinz(m): 8:13am On Oct 23, 2016
atoleybaba:
excuse me Mr christian....it was not Jesus that made that statement in exodus. It was Jehovah, the creator of Jesus.... Op my question to u is when did Jesus make that "I am" statement?
I can see that you're crawling on all four scripturally. Such needless show of ignorance.

Anyways, if by any chance you want your darkness enlightened, you can as well humble yourself and ask for it.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by madjnr: 8:13am On Oct 23, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


You need to understand the nature and attributes of God to begin with. cool
GOD Almighty in Exodus 3 Spoke to Moses in Hebrew, while Jesus in John 8:58, spoke it in Aramaic, and the original Aramaic is lost. All what he have today is a Greek translation for the original.
The "I AM" in John 8:58 is a desperate mistranslation, because even if we take it to be right, it still doesn't say "I am what I am" .
If Jesus truly wanted to say "I AM" in reference to Exodus 3, then he should've said before Adam or humanity I AM WHAT I AM ; not Abraham.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Kingkamal(m): 8:14am On Oct 23, 2016
Splinz:
Certainly yes, Jesus did declared Himself God, and indeed He is!

Here is the unmistakably prove of it: "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (Exodus 3:14). Also, this is another solid prove that Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament.
who sent him? Is God that sent him.. please jesus is not God.. stop contradicting your self.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 8:15am On Oct 23, 2016
Scholar8200:

And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

Exodus 3:14
please take note and stop being deluded "I am" is not a name...I am that I am in modern English is I cause to become or I choose to become what ever....the 2Nd part where he said I am hath sent u was just a simple direction like.....when u send a kid somewhere and u say if dy ask u who sent u tell them I am d one....does that mean I am is ur name?....if u keep reading to verse 15 God mentioned his name....he said u are to tell them "jehovah" the God of....
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by gj22(m): 8:16am On Oct 23, 2016
Brigham:
One funny observation about the major theme of Christianity is that it's self defeating.

Why should an all power god have to sacrifice himself to himself before men could be forgiven.

That's magnanimous

That's the thing about being supreme. Our archaic logic does not apply to him because he is almighty and we r mere mortals

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by godunia(m): 8:18am On Oct 23, 2016
2 Corinthians 4:4 among whom the god of this system (Satan) of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, (chrstaindom) so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, (not God) might not shine through.Jesus is not God Almighty (Jehovah') and he never claimed he is. He was created Col 1:15 like every thing else. Even as a perfect creature with prehuman existence, he never considered himself to be equal to God (Jehovah) Matt 12:29 ,he said there's only one God why is Satan causing wahala with this simple truth. Jesus said he is a son, Satan world insist he is Jehovah, can God be born, can God die, can anyone see God and yet live, who did Jesus prayed to, who resurrected Jesus? Make I stop.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by LUV1: 8:19am On Oct 23, 2016
EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by madjnr: 8:20am On Oct 23, 2016
nmreports:
He meant I am naani.
He is the one true God.
In human form.
Because he and his father are one.
He knows the father and his father knows him.

It's sort of a spiritual declaration.
Our mental capacity may not be able to process a lot of the things of God.

Because, the spiritual works in different way than the natural. How you walk on the moon differs to how we walk on earth.
GOD Almighty in Exodus 3 Spoke to Moses in Hebrew, while Jesus in John 8:58, spoke it in Aramaic, and the original Aramaic is lost. All what he have today is a Greek translation for the original.
The "I AM" in John 8:58 is a desperate mistranslation, because even if we take it to be right, it still doesn't say "I am what I am" .
If Jesus truly wanted to say "I AM" in reference to Exodus 3, then he should've said before Adam or humanity I AM WHAT I AM ; not Abraham.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Lovelynature(m): 8:20am On Oct 23, 2016
Yes

Glory be to God
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by collinsfhk(m): 8:20am On Oct 23, 2016
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory


John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Kingkamal(m): 8:20am On Oct 23, 2016
tintingz:
.

The writer of John must have use old testament to suit Jesus being God, unfortunately John writer didn't get it right because God said "I AM that I AM" = twice.
And you still call Bible HOLY? With the discovery of an error shocked smh

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Nobody: 8:20am On Oct 23, 2016
gj22:


That's the thing about being supreme. Our archaic logic does not apply to him because he is almighty and we r mere mortals
The logic is not archaic,if god created me, he must be happy that I'm using my mental faculty which he sew into my being.

Why does an almighty god requires sacrifice to forgive,god must really love meat.

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by George2016(m): 8:22am On Oct 23, 2016
tintingz:
God in old testament said "I AM that I AM" to Moses while Jesus only said "I AM". How does that mean Jesus was referring to himself as God? There is misinterpretation somewhere.

Jesus said "Before Abraham I AM"
I AM what exactly? I am an angel, slave, spirit, wind? etc

Let's use old testament style: "Before Abraham I AM that I AM"
This make more sense because God has concluded He's I AM that I AM.

The writer of John must have use old testament to suit Jesus being God, unfortunately John writer didn't get it right because God said "I AM that I AM" = twice.

May God forgive you and have mercy on you.

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