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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:42pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Boss i didn't create the name it is all over twitter. There's nothing derogatory about it so take a chill pill at least they gave hiim a name, that shows he is doing something right. Michael Jordan is called air jordan but he do everything on the court, he could have said "no i can do other things apart from dunk" but he didn't and now people die for air jordan sneakers. Like i said don't shy away from wat u are good at. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:09pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
Generals03: Would calling him that make him suddenly stop scoring those types of goals? There are 2 types of strikers, mercurial and tap in. U guys think tap in is like shooting in an open net but that is wrong. A tap in merchant is more of a team player who scores with the help of his team, while a mercurial goes off alone and makes things happen, sometimes they beat 4 peole and score but other times they get stopped. It has been a debate as to which type of striker is better for the team. Iheanacho is a bit of both but he can't hide how good he is in finishing those team created chances, those crosses into the box scoring with his head, left or right. Man city didn't change him to striker becos he could dribble, pass or kick shots, they saw this quality in him that is what puts him up there with there best. He should carry on becos this will give him time to work on other aspects without presure. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:08am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd:wanted Donnarumma to get it. Goalies deserve recognition as well, not everytime outfield players. Congrats to Sanches and our boys though |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:39am On Oct 25, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: I do not get why you persist with this talk. Some of you went as far as listing strikers considered Tap-in strikers and it is clear Nacho is far from that. Iheanacho is not a tap-in striker. It is as simple as that. No matter how you try to add glamour to the name, he is not a tap-in striker. So the name does not suit him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:30am On Oct 25, 2016 |
City striker Kelechi Iheanacho has the highest shot conversion rate in Europe since August, 2015. That puts him ahead of Diabete, Pizarro, Bacca and Agirretxe as Europe’s most resourceful marksman.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:14am On Oct 25, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: Truth is that for those who has never watched him in the colours of Nigeria, iheanacho will look a tap in merchant to them. For Nigerians who have seen him grow through the ranks, we know what he is capable of,no thanks to the position he plays for Man city which is different to how he is used by Nigeria. Iheanacho will always be confined as a striker, because naturally he is not one. However, if Man city starts playing him off a striker, he will unleash his playmaking abilities with that sweet left foot,the cynics will marvel at how good the guy is. If they continue playing him as a 9,he will get them the goals and points but am afraid that position will take away so much from his game and stifle his development on the long run . In my opinion of course. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:47am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80:I thought I'm d only one that harbours d same fear. Nacho brings more to d game than just staying up front and scoring goals. Though he helps in d buildup play(on and off d ball)-but that is not what he is all about. It's beauty watching nacho making use of his deft left leg in a full fledge. It could have been a diff story if he didn't show us a glimpse of what he is capable of @u17. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 8:02am On Oct 25, 2016 |
[b][size=14pt] 2018 WORLD CUP QUALIFIER: Algeria Plots Eagles’ Downfall, Contacts Wilmots, Courbis [/size] By Olawale Ajimotokan in Abuja The Algerian Football Federation (FAF) has placed former coach of Belgium, Marc Wilmots on top of its wish list for the 2018 World Cup showdown between Nigeria and Algeria in Uyo on November 12 . The other favourite is Rolland Courbis , who coached Niger in 2012 and was recently in charge of French club, Stade Rennaias. The former defender is also familiar with Algeria having coached local club USM Alger between 2012 and 2013. Algeria which is in a tough Africa qualifying Group B in the race to Russia 2018 along Zambia, Cameroun and Nigeria, has been left with an Mount Everest to climb, following Serbian Milovan Rajevac’s departure in the wake of the 1-1 home draw with Cameroun. Various media reports in Algeria last night said that FAF President, Mohamed Raouraoua, met Wilmots in Brussels on Thursday to sound him out on the prospect of the national team job, while he held further discussions in Paris the following day with Courbis. The board of FAF is expected to announce a new coach as soon as possible after studying the reports of the technical committee to galvanise the Fennecs preparations for the must-win clash against old adversaries, Nigeria. Wilmots, who was at the helms of Belgium Euro 2016 campaign in France where they were eliminated in the quarter final by Wales, is reported to have demanded a monthly salary of 100,000 Euros from FAF to take the plunge with Algeria. The two technicians have been presented with a mandate to qualify Algeria for the 2018 World Cup and at least a quarter final berth at next year’s Africa Cup of Nations in Gabon. But there are fears that Algeria may not be in position to afford a wage bill of 100,000 Euroes because of decline in government revenue arising from the sharp fall in the international prices of crude oil, the mainstay of Algeria’s economy. Apart from that Algeria is competing with German club Schalke 04 in the race to lure Wilmot and may match the Belgian’s monetary demands. www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/10/24/2018-world-cup-qualifier-algeria-plots-eagles-downfall-contacts-wilmots-courbis/ [/b] |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:04am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Given my explanation what type of striker has Iheanacho been this season for man city a or b? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:35am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: He played behind the strikers in the U17. The U 17 team had about 2 playmakers in Iheanacho and Musa Yahaya. I rated Musa Yahaya highly in that tournament. I wonder what is stunting his development. He is supposed to be top class by now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:41am On Oct 25, 2016 |
terzurum5: The Algerian federation are putting themselves in a tighter situation. The game is just 2 weeks away But on the other note, even without a coach the Algerian team remains deadly. Mahrez, Slimani, Brahimi, Feghouli, Ounas. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:54am On Oct 25, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: You believe there are two types of strikers. I do not. The fact is he is not a tap-in striker. He creates play, finishes from outside and within the box. He drops deep to build-up play and he is dynamic within and outside the box. From these qualities listed, do you think he is a tap-in striker? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Luis Suárez Characteristics (Whoscored) + Strengths Key passes - Very Strong Finishing - Very Strong Long shots - Strong Dribbling - Strong Through balls - Strong Passing - Strong Direct free-kicks - Strong Crossing - Strong Holding on to the ball - Strong This simply explains the point you guys miss. If you look at his strongest characteristics it is key passes and finishing. To get the best of Suarez is to explore his finishing characteristics. Which is as a striker who can assist his team-mates. Same thing goes to Iheanacho. The stats show his is one of the finest finishers on the planet. Why play him in a role to diminish his finest attribute? If there is a term to describe Iheanacho's attacking style, I will go for a DYNAMIC STRIKER. Not tap-in. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:13am On Oct 25, 2016 |
AIG07:Sadly enough, I doubt we will see an off the chain Kelechi in the sort of line up man city plays. Kelechi will prosper more in a team like Bayern Munich where he has a good foil in Lewandoski or Chelsea with Diego Costa as a good foil. I see iheanacho more as a player doing what Antonio greizman does. Didier Deschamps had to play Giroud to provide a foil for greizman while at Athletico he has Fernando torres. Sadly enough Aguero is not the kind of player who suits Iheanacho as a partner. Mind you, Aguero is a good striker but he is not so good to play with upfront. That's why he's always confined to the bench with Argentina, in my opinion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:21am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Luis suarez is a proper striker from his days in Ajax. Kelechi is not. Kelechi is a no8, pair Kelechi up front with a Benzema/Lewandoski type of striker you will see the best from him. Brown Ideye for all the slack he gets made Kelechi prosper in Ndola. Playing Kelechi as a no9 is like buying a Ferrari and driving it like a Nissan. Kelechi is being schakled by man city. Period |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:24am On Oct 25, 2016 |
"Don't shy away from what you're good at" You keep saying the above and I wonder if you understand it at all as regards Nacho. Is Nacho good at Tap-ins only?? He is also very very good at build-up plays and hitting the ball from distance...... he's good in using his vision to create chances and set up team mates beautifully. Nacho is A Super Hybrid kind of Forward and there are many kinds of forwards.... Nacho reminds one of a Mueller for his keen ability to attack space and get into those scoring positions. He also shows good traits of Ruud boy and Pipo inzaghi to get into tap-in positions.... he's learning fast how to play off the shoulders of the defenders. The Kid got a football intelligence that makes him drops deep to be involved in build-up plays and speed which makes him cover ground quickly to get into the centre forward role. His Assassin-like ability to round the keeper and score is also present. So What exactly is he good at?? Tap-ins?? *smh* Mehn! Even Air Jordan defines Michael coz he was a shooting guard for goodness sake! But Nacho is a Hybrid forward. His central attributes make him a no.10/no.9 rolled into one. Tap-ins merchant is a limiting name. Period! Those calling him that on Twitter are probably non-fans of City. They see inzaghi and co. finish na Nacho dem classify with those ones. You sef no dey look?? BascoVanVeli: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:32am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Mikel Still Has Chelsea In His Heart Despite Snub By Conte Published: October 24, 2016 Mikel Still Has Chelsea In His Heart Despite Snub By Conte Nigeria skipper John Obi Mikel showed he still has Chelsea in his heart despite his lack of first team opportunities so far in the 2016-2017 season, after praising his teammates for their performance against Manchester United on Sunday. Since returning to Stamford Bridge after representing the Nigerian U23 national team at the Olympic Games, the defensive midfielder has not been considered for selection in eight straight games in the league and Cup. And it is thought he fell out of favour with manager Antonio Conte after he decided to skip majority of pre-season training in order to represent Nigeria in the competition held in Brazil in August. “Good morning everyone .. well done to the boys yesterday, amazing performance, result and atmosphere #BlueIsTheColour #MatthewHarding, ” Mikel tweeted on Monday morning. Assuming he was selected against Manchester United, it would have been his 250th appearance for Chelsea in the Premier League. http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=20843 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:50am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Chelsea wonderkid to pen new deal after lowering outrageous wage demands CHELSEA striker Dominic Solanke is reportedly close to agreeing a new contract at Stamford Bridge. By DAVID WRIGHT 12:27, Sat, Oct 22, 2016 | UPDATED: 12:35, Sat, Oct 22, 2016 Dominic Solanke close to new Chelsea deal The 19-year-old's representatives has been in talks with Chelsea over improved terms since towards the end of last season. The England Under-21 international is said to have asked a sensational £50,000-a-week deal but has recently lowered his demands. That is according to The Times, who claim the Solanke is now prepared to accept around half of his initial figure. Dominic Solanke spent last season on loan at Vitesse Solanke, who was named on Antonio Conte's bench in last weekend's 3-0 win over champions Leicester, is highly regarded at Stamford Bridge. He won Chelsea's Academy Player of the year two seasons ago and was sent out to Dutch club Vitesse on loan for the following campaign - in which he scored seven goals in 25 outings. Solanke, who is currently earning £7,000 a week at the west London club, was reportedly denied the chance to leave on loan again in the summer. Chelsea have shipped a record 38 players out on loan this summer, but who are they and where have they gone? Where have Chelsea sent 38 of their players on loan this season? http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/724038/Dominic-Solanke-Chelsea-CFC-New-Contract-Transfer-News-Rumours-Gossip |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:58am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Omeruo, Echiejile should be dropped against Algeria – Elaho October 25, 2016 Festus Abu Nigeria’s defensive duo Kenneth Omeruo and Elderson Echiejile should not start for the Super Eagles in their Russia 2018 World Cup Group B qualifier in Uyo on November 12, says Friday Elaho. Turkey-based Omeruo has taken a lot of flak from football pundits and fans for conceding “a cheap goal” in the Eagles’ 2-1 defeat of Zambia’s Chipolopolo in their opening Russia 2018 Group B qualifier at Levy Mwanawasa Stadium in Ndola, Zambia, on October 9. Veteran Chipolopolo striker Collins Mbesuma and captain Rainford Kalaba took advantage of Monaco flop Echiejile’s lack of pace at the left-back to torment the Eagles’ defence, especially in the second half. Although former Nigeria winger Elaho is happy the Eagles picked up maximum points on the road to lead the table on three points, he fears the defence could deny the team the chance to maintain their position at the top of the table. Cameroon, who held Algeria to a 1-1 draw in the group’s other fixture in Bilda, are second in the table. Algeria are third followed by Zambia in the last place. Elaho insists Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr needs replacements for Alanyaspor’s Omeruo and Echiejile, who was shipped out on loan to Belgian outfit Standard Liege by Monaco during the summer transfer market after falling down the pecking order at the French club, in the game against Algeria. “Algeria and Cameroon will be scared of the Eagles following our victory over Zambia,” the Algiers ’90 Africa Cup of Nations silver medallist told our correspondent on the telephone on Monday. “But we must improve on our performance against Chipolopolo if we want to beat Algeria. “Algeria have (Leicester City’s attacking duo) Riyad Mahrez and Islam Slimani, who are dangerous players. They have other experienced players. “I’m really worried about our defence, which almost let us down against Chipolopolo.” The Senegal ’92 Africa Cup of Nations bronze medallist added, “Omeruo and Echiejile didn’t play as professionals against Zambia. “If we play them in our defence against Algeria, they (Desert Foxes) will bury us in Uyo. The Algerians are very fast and we need good defenders to stop them. “However, the coach should invite them for the match if there is evidence they have improved.” The former Brondby forward urged Rohr to leave players warming the bench at their clubs out of the squad to face Algeria. Elaho said, “We should stop inviting players based on what they have achieved in the past. We should invite players on current form. “We have many good young players in Europe and in the domestic league. they should be given a chance to play for the national team.” http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/855412959?-21310:8643:0 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Which one is Luis Suárez is and what about pairing Kelechi with someone who has very strong attributes in other areas? Someone like Messi. Why is Kelechi a support striker and not a striker? Can you tell me your reason? I have told you mine. His finest attribute is finishing. Not crossing, passing and build-up play. I have shown you Suarez stats. He is a top striker because he is exceptional at finishing. Iheanacho is today one of the finest finishers on the planet. So why is Suarez a proper striker and Iheanacho not? Can you tell me your reason? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:05am On Oct 25, 2016 |
forgiveness: I agree Echiejile was a liability and I hope the coach calls Oshaniwa and check if he can offer more to the team. He must not put him in the game squad but test if he is sharp to help the team cope in coming games. I disagree with the Omeruo point. He made one mistake but was our most imposing defender that day. We can not drop a player who performed well because of a mistake. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:08am On Oct 25, 2016 |
forgiveness: That £50,000 was outrageous. He is not close to that. Solanke should keep working hard in training and sharpening his finishing skills. He needs to take his chances when the opportunity comes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:18am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I don't get your points. We are discussing iheanacho and you pulled up Luis suarez stats. Iheanacho and suarez are the same person? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:19am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Taiwo, Oduamadi Quit Finnish Club HJK Helsinki By Johnny Edward: Nigerian defender Taye Taiwo has called it quits with his Finnish top flight club HJK Helsinki, reports Completesportsnigeria.com. Taiwo who was named in the Veikkausliiga team of the season announced his exit via his Instagram wall on Monday. Also quitting the club is his compatriot Nnamdi Oduamadi whose loan spell at the club expires at the end of the Finnish season. Former Olympique Marseille, AC Milan and QPR defender Taiwo made over 30 appearances, scoring six times for HJK and was instrumental in the club's second place finish behind league winners IFK Mariehamn. The 31-year-old left back thanked the club's fans and the staff for their support during his stay. He wrote: "First of all, it's a thank you to the football club of Helsinki. "Not just the director, not just the medical staff, the coaching staff, the players, the supporters, it's all of you. "If asked to write a script for my career 12 years ago, there is no way I would've been able to dream up this journey, I started here at the end of this ride and look back in awe of what l've experienced. "The wins and the losses will be remembered, but what I'll remember most are the people – the fans inside Sonera Stadium and the staff and coaches who pushed me and held me together, the teammates (and even opponents) who will be life-long friends, shares my ups and downs with family and close friends, and most importantly, the snapshots of my kids growing up and reading and watching Dad's work.that is what I will cherish the most. "Today, I say good bye to the football club of Hjkhelsinki. "I want to thank the club for helping me become a better footballer and making me and my family feel at home during my time here. After this year I can only say thank you the club, to the fans that have supported me since the first day I wore this jersey [Helsinki jersey] and of course, thank you and good luck to my teammates who helped me settle in since day one not only as teammates but as friends. "I take with me many memories, lessons and great moments that will live with me forever. Yes, it is time to say goodbye and face new challenges. I am moving forward to a new country, to another great club with amazing fans and I am looking forward to it but the time spent with you, as well as the happiness and love that I felt here will always stay with me. "Once again, thank you for everything. I will continue to be a big fan of the football club of Helsinki, to whom l wish all the best and many more trophies and happiness in the future! Good bye Hjk Helsinki." The post Taiwo, Oduamadi Quit Finnish Club HJK Helsinki appeared first on Complete Sports Nigeria. http://gloryvibes.com/2016/10/24/taiwo-oduamadi-quit-finnish-club-hjk-helsinki/ |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: I feel shocked that we are in this discussion after Kelechi Iheanacho's performance against Southampton. Before the Barcelona game, Guardiola rested Iheanacho and Aguero. Reports say he wanted Aguero to watch Suarez and see what he wants. Throughout the game, we got to see what Guardiola wants. Dynamism. Not because your a striker, you sit in the front and wait for the ball. Keep talking Giroud and not notice that Arsene Wenger opted for a dynamic solution with Alexis Sanchez playing as the top man. In the game against Chelsea, we saw Sanchez drift to the wing and give a wonderful cross to Ozil. We have seen Sanchez run at the defences with pace, track back with unbelievable work rate and score some breath-taking goals. That is the kind of dynamic attacking style Iheanacho must become one of the best in the world at. We hope Success and Osimhen develop same top dynamic attributes to create the Nigerian League of Extraordinary Hitmen. Not a striker like Giroud to play off. Even Lewandowski is highly dynamic. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:24am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: I am showing you with the stats of Suarez that he has the characteristics to make a top quality creative midfielder. The stats shows his versatile attributes. Suarez could play on the wings too. He plays as a striker because despite all these, he is excellent at finishing. What I just wrote above is exactly the same thing for Nacho. He has the attributes to play as a ten or a winger. However, he is excellent at finishing. So Iheanacho is best developed as a dynamic striker. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:39am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:You may have to re-read in the context I mentioned Giroud. Am sure I said Deschamps had to play Giroud as a foil for Greizman because he prospers more with someone ahead of him. Greizman flourished in this role and won the player of the tournament. Iheanacho and Greizman could have similar traits. I didn't say iheanacho should become a Giroud. I domt know where you got that from. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:45am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Iheanacho cannot compare with suarez. Suarez has ruthless dynamism in the final third. He selfish to a fault (Barcelona has coached this out of him). While iheanacho is a passer as shown in his stats. In the champions league, you will be amazed iheanacho has completed all the passes he has attempted while suarez pass completion rate is at 76% (not bad for a striker). You can take it to the bank, kelechi is being schakled at man city. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:47am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: I don't agree Echiejile should be totally dropped but I agree he should be replaced with another left back. Oshaniwa doesn't deserve a call. I prefer TT. Omeruo needs to work on his concentration. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:50am On Oct 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: I wonder how you ended up with Shackles after you pointed out that despite playing as a striker, he has a high pass completion ratio. Beats my imagination. We are talking of one of the most resourceful marksmen in Europe having a high passing stats and you use the term shackled. Shackling is when Nacho is played in a position where his finest attribute is cut. If Iheanacho's best attribute is finishing. Playing him in any other position cuts his finishing attribute. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:52am On Oct 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: 50 pounds is not outrageous for a Chelsea player. If they think it is outrageous why not allow him go? Chelsea knows his worth hence they refused to allow him go. Besides, Solanke is a good finisher. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:54am On Oct 25, 2016 |
forgiveness: Unless you have a left Back option with a better chance of delivering, we are doing ourselves bad not testing Oshaniwa. |
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