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Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 11:19am On Oct 30, 2016 |
cyrilamx:thank u bros prodly benin |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by evansjeff(m): 11:41am On Oct 30, 2016 |
effty:say what you know before what you don't know happens to you. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by evansjeff(m): 11:45am On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:the problem with your likes are that your people have no history or probably they were too backward to keep records, why hasn't your traveller Ooni refuted the claims as he did upon his appointment, he has obviously been enlightened. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by Sicillian: 11:47am On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:lolzzz... chai all dis psychological demented Afonjas will not kill us with laugh... so finally ur lost fore fathers who doesn't even know where dey cum from told u that their heads are buried in the ooni's palace and wen u eventually die ur head should be buried there also...lollllllll God... point of correction my oba don't travel from place to place to have handshake with people they cum visiting him at his palace including the us congress u talked about wen some of den visited Nigeria during d reign of d former oba dey visited him... please digest this into ur coconut head dat my oba is not a political tout like ur ooni dat was appointed by Tinubu... u need to see his face wen he was ushered to sit in d third role where d Obi of agbor and co was seated and better dignitaries like emir of sokoto and kano and kings from other African countries where seated at d front role.... kikiki.. e dey pain lollllllllzzzz 1 Like |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by evansjeff(m): 11:47am On Oct 30, 2016 |
mapist:and "federal character" told you to disrespect the culture of your place of residence? |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:48am On Oct 30, 2016 |
JuanDeDios: True that. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by Cully408(m): 12:01pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
What will then happen if a Muslim man/woman die? |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 12:03pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike: sky divers tell me y pple decide to use obantala to attribute king instead of oduduwa of ife not oba of ife secondly nobody doubt our kings bronze head is not been buried there but y do u ask no that y u are goat lemme tell u in benin oba and his son doest see bcus after izoduwa the benin prince sent is son oromiyan to benin he he came to benin and he impregnated a benin woman b4 d child was delivered he left to ife the child never knew parential care bcus he was been trained by chiefs so in other for the fathers in ife to see is generations in benin after the death of an oba in benin they were told to bring a bronze head of the oba to ife to be buried not to show seniority if it was to it i dnt oba of benin would have been the only burying the bronze head there the rest would have joined him now ask urself what as d ooni ife archieve tha u defend him d british didnt even notice the kingdom at all is it bcus of ur population or the way u pple yr people as slaves to the white abeg reason makw u cum tell me |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by effty(m): 1:19pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
evansjeff:I am quite sure what will happen to ur Oba... He will fall off when I show. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by kolaish(m): 1:41pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
MAYOWAAK:Oga, you dey vex o. where you see this joke? Good one. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by LorDBolton(m): 2:33pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
mapist: you're embarrassing yourself and displaying ignorance. You cannot be in one region in naija nd think you know EVERYTHING going on in other nations. In some nations it's in their constitution In others it's an unwritten rule... As for business ventures? Maybe u think the queen of England sits in the palace waiting for. Govt alert? She's never even declared her personal business interests publicly and Only VOLUNTARILY pays tax on them(even the amount is never revealed) He collects tax & forwards it to govt purse...if that is wrong then I believe you're not really educated... if u consider tax collection 'exploitative' Lmao...they don't infringe on people's rights? Oga I see no point replying u any further. Bye Like @ cyrilmax posted 'if you don't respect your tradition, I do mine' It's not our fault your king's are powerless n subject to 'political enthronement' thus trade their respect for governors support to beat other ASPIRANTS to the throne.
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Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by ibolomo(m): 3:00pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
gregyboy:with all the stuff you just spewed, you have not provided a single shred of empirical evidence to ascertain your claims, there are no historical records to the best of my knowledge that can say for sure where and how the title "Oba" came from so stop trying. and by the way, what you are spewing is off topic, open a thread if you feel the need to "enlighten" people as to the origin of the Oba title in Benin kingdom |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by ibolomo(m): 3:21pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
evansjeff:seriously? you can say all you want to extol your king, but please try not to insult other people's ethnic group. and besides, Edo have a very vestigial history, whos name itself is a corruption of another tribe and is mostly shrouded in contradictions. please read up on Yoruba history and culture before you open your mouth to spew what you have no idea about. Compare and contrast: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_people and by the way, it is obvious that Edo and Yoruba have similar roots and cultures, I might as well say they are brothers, so stop trying to bring up fights amongst their descendants. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by bams2999(m): 3:26pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
i respect tradition, i love AFRICA 1 Like |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by evansjeff(m): 3:27pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
effty:i see am empty vessel in you, don't bother quoting me again, because you won't be privileged to get a reply. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 3:32pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
evansjeff:You are clearly incorrigible. Oooni is not a jobless King to be trading words with a junior King like the Oba of Benin. He wont even get busy with motor park fee collection, fining people for burying their father etc. He has replied the late King(father of the current King) who fabricated this lie before he died,you can look it up on Google. In his wisdom as a King who has openly declared that his reign is to unite every Yoruba kings,he said if the Benin royalty don't want to be identified as Yoruba,they can do so and he wont force them but that doesn't change the history that the Benin royalty is Yoruba. I'm sure you are not from the Benin royalty. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by effty(m): 3:33pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
evansjeff:Something u never knew happened to you and that made u strayed. Run along boy. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 3:43pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
ibolomo:Omo Ibo, you are obviously not a good comedian. Oba is a Yoruba word and when the royal title called in full in Yoruba, you will still not understand because you are Ibo . So ask your Yoruba friends to educate you and stop asking for silly empirical evidence for a word.Since you are still young, let me educate you on the one you can still grasp, In linguistics, you ask for etymology of a word not empirical evidence for a word. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
ibolomo:Only a rookie in research will quote Wikipedia. You are a rookie ![]() |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by ibolomo(m): 3:49pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:I am a Yoruba by the way, and you have still not provided proof for all you said so far, when you do, please enlighten me, and I was talking about the history of "Oranmiyan" and co., not the 'etymology' of the words you used, howbeit haphazardly and incoherently. and by the way, there are many contradictions as to the history and relations of the Yoruba and Edo-Binni people, and we may never get to fully know the whole truth, as all we have now are pieces of a puzzle |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 4:01pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
ibolomo:Ibo-Lomo means I am an Ibo child. Meanwhile, if you are truly Yoruba why don't you ask your father or your uncle first before coming to the public to disgrace your family like the late oba did in his book .He is the creator of this failed attempt at rewriting history, his father and his forefathers have their heads returned to Ife and he knows the significance yet wanted to use unfair means to stop what he met on ground and has been well documented in history.Ask your father or uncle why it was just recently the corrupted version of the Benin history just surfaced? Simply politics . In one breath you agree you are Oranmiyan's son but don't agree with the significance of agelong practice of returning heads of dead Oba of Benin to ile Ife |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by Epatty(f): 4:04pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
Omoakinsuyi:oya... clap for yourself. You no read wetin happen to those family wey trespass the other time by organising funeral? Everyone has a culture so my guy, which one u belong? Oba ghato kperee!!! |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 4:06pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.academia.edu/8740590/WHY_YORUBA_NEVER_HAD_AN_EMPIRE_BUT_CIVILIZED_BY_BENIN&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiYwIe25oLQAhXFPRoKHX2GAb8QFggQMAI&sig2=yFlxueXIhdutGS0M4bdiGw&usg=AFQjCNGBZ513DdBPAQSIMqzpf_9BKoVmHA |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 4:07pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.academia.edu/8740590/WHY_YORUBA_NEVER_HAD_AN_EMPIRE_BUT_CIVILIZED_BY_BENIN&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiYwIe25oLQAhXFPRoKHX2GAb8QFggQMAI&sig2=yFlxueXIhdutGS0M4bdiGw&usg=AFQjCNGBZ513DdBPAQSIMqzpf_9BKoVmHA view link and be amazef |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by ibolomo(m): 4:26pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:I never objected to the returning of heads to Ile-Ife, and the topic of king heads was never brought up, but of the 'etymology' of the term 'Oba' and its use by Yoruba and Benin people. a nice try with 'analysing' my monicker, IBO are my initials, and if I were Igbo, why would I want my monicker to contain a Yoruba phrase. my fore fathers would have been in a better position to tell us, but then, they are all dead and decomposed. All I am saying is that whatever shred of evidence left behind have most likely been warped by time and people and we may never know for sure, just leave the etymology of Oba alone and have a nice day, Onome |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by ibolomo(m): 4:30pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:just saw this: "any cultural people can make all kinds of INTERNAL CLAIMS that they want, However, they must be VERY CAREFUL to be sensitive when such claims cross their own cultural borders and intersect the history of others, else they degenerate into claims of superiority or inferiority, which are the first bus stop to hatred and wars, which we really cannot afford". |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by sexymalato: 4:45pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
Abeg I wan mess, can som1 tell the oba of benin. To come and clean my ass for me? |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 4:46pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
gregyboy:Seriously, you are a comedian ![]() |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 4:54pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
ibolomo:Thanks. There are historical documents and journals dating back to two hundred years ago that support the Yoruba assertions that obas of Benin are Ife princes. The problem is that you never searched for it. This issue is not new On Nairaland so you can diligently read through, the only new thing is the lie peddled by the late oba of Benin which doesn't have any historical antecedents nor clear evidence. Nowhere in the world will someone wake up one day, write a book and claim authority over superior historical events that have been documented without providing superior proof. The Yoruba ancestors were wise enough to insist that the heads of oba of Benin are buried in ile Ife if not these liars would have gone away with their attempts at rewriting history. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by evansjeff(m): 4:54pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
onomeasike:The Ooni wouldn't dare this Oba of Benin for any reason, unlike his late father, he takes no shi.t and the Ooni knows better. and your Ooni is jobless enough to keep running up and down?, any way don't disturb my mention further, cos I wouldn't reply. |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 5:00pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
ibolomo:The whole truth is already documented.History has never recorded any dead Oba of Benin challenging their history until now so instead of them getting busy providing concrete evidences to displace the evidences already documented, they are grandstanding. It's whoever alleges that must proof. All the evidences, from the title of the Benin monarch, the Itsekiri historical account of Benin, the heads of past oba being buried in Ile Ife, the sword that's reportedly sent to ile Ife anytime a new King is enthroned in Benin, the fact that it's only the Benin royalty that's Yoruba and many more make the Yoruba account more credible |
Re: No Burial In Benin Kingdom Till January 2017- Oba Of Benin by onomeasike: 5:11pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
evansjeff:The current Oba is a learner joor ![]() As far as history is concerned, only the Benin royalty is Yoruba. And whether you like it or not, Ooni is regarded as the spiritual head of all Yoruba. He's the only one regarded as one of the 201 gods. It can be liken to saying the ooni is to every Yoruba what the Pope is to the Catholics who believe the Pope succeeds Apostle Peter. He's not only a king, he is the only one that has divine succession to the rank of gods. |
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