DaPuncline:

Yorubas are the weak point of southern unity ? See dirty words from an asshole. So why did Zik rejected AG's alliance in '60s and instead ran to the north to forged an alliance with Balewa a Grade II teacher hausa man ? Wat of ekwueme's alliance with shagari. Everyone knows your headache is still oozing out of jonathan's defeat.

I am not an igbo person. Am from Kogi, so i really dont care about who is the weak link in the south, and maybe i used the wrong words or wrong expression.
Let me say, recently, the SS and SE seemed to have form an unbreakable political bond which the SW do not want. That is why i used dat word.
I am from the middlebelt and i adress my people as the weak link of the north and i know why i said so.
Bigotry has eaten deep into the minds of some of u guys on nairaland that u tend to inteprete every word with such thoughts. This is terribly bad and unbefiting of learned individuals. U could have corrected me on my choice of words without insults.

kogirodent:

Kano is a pure Hausa state. All de indegenes are Hausa maybe wit some Fulani. All de other north-western states habe Hausa in large populations or majority and some other tribes all as indegenes.

Kano is overwhemingly Hausa and Hausanized fulanis by population, but there are some minority Kurama speaking people i think around Tudun wada LGA in extreme southern kano who spilled over from Kaduna and Plateau states across the boundary. I have met Kurama indigenes from Kano state.

ianSweet:


Are u from Kogi state or have u lived there before? Do u know the tribes that make up each LGA in Kogi? Have u met ppl from all the LGAs that make up Kogi? So how do u know i am clueless?
Kaduna state is about a 50/50 from my observation just like Kogi, just that some muslims will feel muslims are more in Kogi and Kaduna just because they dominate the state politically or have met or interract with more muslims from the states, likewise some christians will feel christians are more in these states because they have interracted with more christians from these states or have lived in more christian dominated areas of the states.
I can give u a detailed break down of the ethnic make up and demographics of every LGA in Kogi and Kaduna to butress my points. Can u do same?

Wow! I'm really convinced you lot are deluded now. If you had said this for Taraba, even nassarawa or kogi, i'd agree but kaduna? Loool! You are not even serious. Give you a break down? Where i grew up and lived all my life? You lot have lost the plot... i wonder who is feeding you this madness!

ianSweet:


Kano is overwhemingly Hausa and Hausanized fulanis by population, but there are some minority Kurama speaking people i think around Tudun wada LGA in extreme southern kano who spilled over from Kaduna and Plateau states across the boundary. I have met Kurama indigenes from Kano state.

And now youre speaking about my state of origin. Kurama? Probably, but stop exaggerating the population of people just because youve met a few in your circle. Its called selection bias.

VomeSchakleton:


Yet a christian has never been elected governor or even won a primary yeah? As arrogant as northern christians can be? Hate to bring religion into this but its a fact. I lived in kaduna all my life small fry and frankly you're an im.becile if you truly think that. FOH with your stupidity

Like seriously, how can a sane individual use the religion of political position holders to judge the demographics of a state or place? Only a religious bigot does that.
Naturally, muslims are more politically inclined than Christians, u guys put more religious comitment to politics than christians.
Look at some African countries like Eritrea and Sierra Leone, i think muslims are more in these countries or its roughly equally divided, but do u know that a muslim has never become president in these countries?. The christians have been ruling and dominating, but only an ignorant person who does not know how to ascertain demography will just conclude that these countries are christian dominated countries.

VomeSchakleton:


Wow! I'm really convinced you lot are deluded now. If you had said this for Taraba, even nassarawa or kogi, i'd agree but kaduna? Loool! You are not even serious. Give you a break down? Where i grew up and lived all my life? You lot have lost the plot... i wonder who is feeding you this madness!

Jesus christ, because someone grew up in Tudun wada or Rigassa in Kaduna and met mostly muslims then he thinks the whole Kaduna are muslims. Smh
If a christian tells me that Kaduna is overwhemingly christian i will tell him to stop saying that. The fact that i have stayed in Sabon Tasha, Barnawa, Television, Kafanchan in Kaduna state and met almost only christians will never make me conclude Kaduna is overwhemingly christians.
Kaduna state has abt 23 LGAs, about half of the number of these LGAs are dominantly christians, likewise half muslims.

ianSweet:


Like seriously, how can a sane individual use the religion of political position holders to judge the demographics of a state or place? Only a religious bigot does that.
Naturally, muslims are more politically inclined than Christians, u guys put more religious comitment to politics than christians.
Look at some African countries like Eritrea and Sierra Leone, i think muslims are more in these countries or its roughly equally divided, but do u know that a muslim has never become president in these countries?. The christians have been ruling and dominating, but only an ignorant person who does not know how to ascertain demography will just conclude that these countries are christian dominated countries.

Exactly, eritea shows that christians at the slightest edge tend to dominate. furthermore, only a charlatan will equate northern nigerias politics to these countries. why do you think a muslim can become president in a yoruba doninates state? its ethnicity, all the presidents in sierra leone have been from the same muslim populated region. and we both know religion plays a deeper role in nigerias election than other places. heck even with all the hardhip gej was inflicting on the north he won in all christian dominated southern kaduna strong holds fid he not? And frankly small fry, i dont think you know what 'bigot' means! seems political correctness is just making people lose their heads.

koladebrainiac:
Abdulsalam is a gwari from Niger state.
Jonathan never wanted to be president or vice president just like Yaradua.
GEJ too is an accidental president.

Abusallami is a Fulani man.

ianSweet:


I am not an igbo person. Am from Kogi, so i really dont care about who is the weak link in the south, and maybe i used the wrong words or wrong expression.
Let me say, recently, the SS and SE seemed to have form an unbreakable political bond which the SW do not want. That is why i used dat word.
I am from the middlebelt and i adress my people as the weak link of the north and i know why i said so.
Bigotry has eaten deep into the minds of some of u guys on nairaland that u tend to inteprete every word with such thoughts. This is terribly bad and unbefiting of learned individuals. U could have corrected me on my choice of words without insults.

So you expected me to clap for you after referring to my tribe as the weakest link ?

ianSweet:


Jesus christ, because someone grew up in Tudun wada or Rigassa in Kaduna and met mostly muslims then he thinks the whole Kaduna are muslims. Smh
If a christian tells me that Kaduna is overwhemingly christian i will tell him to stop saying that. The fact that i have stayed in Sabon Tasha, Barnawa, Television, Kafanchan in Kaduna state and met almost only christians will never make me conclude Kaduna is overwhemingly christians.
Kaduna state has abt 23 LGAs, about half of the number of these LGAs are dominantly christians, likewise half muslims.

No small fry, i've been to and im acquainted to all corners of the state! you forget to key in the population density of lgs. the last time a christian rallied his brothers in kaduna it didnt end well for him. Saying christians arent active in kaduna politics is one of the mkst ridiculous things i've heard. you just dont have the population or kaduna would be taraba or something.

ianSweet:


I am not an igbo person. Am from Kogi, so i really dont care about who is the weak link in the south, and maybe i used the wrong words or wrong expression.
Let me say, recently, the SS and SE seemed to have form an unbreakable political bond which the SW do not want. That is why i used dat word.
I am from the middlebelt and i adress my people as the weak link of the north and i know why i said so.
Bigotry has eaten deep into the minds of some of u guys on nairaland that u tend to inteprete every word with such thoughts. This is terribly bad and unbefiting of learned individuals. U could have corrected me on my choice of words without insults.

So you expected me to clap for you after referring to my tribe as the weakest link ?
And about SS/SE solidarity: I believe you are aware how the urhobos, itsekiris, isoko dissociated themselves from biafra when IPOB protest was at its peak, mind you igbos don't recognize the edos as part of SS since they are being led by an APC governor.

PFRB:


Abusallami is a Fulani man.

hoky crap! i think one just has to pause and look at the comedic aspect of this! is there any ethnicity that hasnt claimed this man yet? lool!

VomeSchakleton:


And now youre speaking about my state of origin. Kurama? Probably, but stop exaggerating the population of people just because youve met a few in your circle. Its called selection bias.

When i first heard of Kurama people from Kano, i was surprised, until i checked the map for myself and i found out that Kurama homeland in Kaduna (Lere LGA) and Kurama homeland in Plateau (Bassa LGA) share land boundary with the southern tip of Kano.
That was when i believed that kurama homeland can be very much extended to Kano.
Kano state shares land boundary with Kaduna, Plateau and Bauchi states and these states are strongly populated by minority groups, so why do u think it would be impossibe for boundary misadjustments to have left some people carved away?
It's just like someone saying that Zamfara is 100% hausa and fulani, forgetting that this state shares boundary with Kebbi and Niger states which is populated by minority groups and hence possible for their communities to spill over. There are dukawa and Zuru speaking villages in Zamfara spilling over from neighbouring Niger and Kebbi states but even most Zamfara hausa and fulani indigenes do not know!

ianSweet:


When i first heard of Kurama people from Kano, i was surprised, until i checked the map for myself and i found out that Kurama homeland in Kaduna (Lere LGA) and Kurama homeland in Plateau (Bassa LGA) share land boundary with the southern tip of Kano.
That was when i believed that kurama homeland can be very much extended to Kano.
Kano state shares land boundary with Kaduna, Plateau and Bauchi states and these states are strongly populated by minority groups, so why do u think it would be impossibe for boundary misadjustments to have left some people carved away?
It's just like someone saying that Zamfara is 100% hausa and fulani, forgetting that this state shares boundary with Kebbi and Niger states which is populated by minority groups and hence possible for their communities to spill over. There are dukawa and Zuru speaking villages in Zamfara spilling over from neighbouring Niger and Kebbi states but even most Zamfara hausa and fulani indigenes do not know!

can you even read small fry? did i deny their existence? read what i typed again then come back with something relevant not this repetitive nonsense! you people are truly clueless are you not?

ianSweet:


Kano is overwhemingly Hausa and Hausanized fulanis by population, but there are some minority Kurama speaking people i think around Tudun wada LGA in extreme southern kano who spilled over from Kaduna and Plateau states across the boundary. I have met Kurama indigenes from Kano state.

i didnt know dat sha, even though i once stayed there-Tudun Wada dankadai. Seems you are well-travelled. Can we be friends? will follow u henceforth.

VomeSchakleton:


Exactly, eritea shows that christians at the slightest edge tend to dominate. furthermore, only a charlatan will equate northern nigerias politics to these countries. why do you think a muslim can become president in a yoruba doninates state? its ethnicity, all the presidents in sierra leone have been from the same muslim populated region. and we both know religion plays a deeper role in nigerias election than other places. heck even with all the hardhip gej was inflicting on the north he won in all christian dominated southern kaduna strong holds fid he not? And frankly small fry, i dont think you know what 'bigot' means! seems political correctness is just making people lose their heads.

See u? Do u know that Chad is also abt equal christians and muslim populations? But the muslims have turned the christians to second class citizens because they unite better.

The reason why christians dominate Eriteria is based on their history. The muslim tribes in Eriterea were like 3rd class citizens in old Ethiopia while the Tigrinya (the majority tribe in current Eritrea) had higher status in old Ethiopia.
Now that they are in a new country, all Eritrean christians are one tribe (Tigrunya), making it easy for them to speak as one, while the muslims are minority tribes (but put together make up abt half of the state).

Yes i dont dispute the fact that GEJ still won in southern kaduna in 2015 but the votes were low because many southern kaduna indigenes did not bother to come out to vote, that was why Buhari got abt 75% votes in the state.
What abt 2011 election? All the votes GEJ got in Kaduna were still from Southern kaduna but GEJ got abt 47% votes in the state (about 1,2 million). Same thing happened in Plateau. Know ur demographics!!

EMMAUGOH:
when FFK said that this guy new love for North will make him a stupid person oneday. He should just leave the north alone..

Yakubu Gowon was not a fulani but he championed the majority fulani Born to rule mentality when he denied the country from practicing Confederation that would have indirectly benefited his region but Reno failed to analyze a common Northern mentality. u come to see that whether fulani,hausa or whatever...christian or moslem they think alike.

U lie. If anybody is to blame for our collective suffering and situation today that person is Gen aguyi ironsi he brought the unification policy that abolished regional government. Imagine he didn't do that where niger-delta would hav been today. We Blame north all the time forgeting the role of other southerners in where we are today. If aguyi didn't bring decree 33 by now the north west would hav continued wit their agric and ground nut pyramids likewise southwest with their cocoa nd so will every region will manage what they have and settle the centre wit taxes. There would have been no need for all this biafra agitation. So southerners should get their facts rite. The north has never been our problem am a warri boy like reno omokri as him and GEj what the did for us.

VomeSchakleton:


No small fry, i've been to and im acquainted to all corners of the state! you forget to key in the population density of lgs. the last time a christian rallied his brothers in kaduna it didnt end well for him. Saying christians arent active in kaduna politics is one of the mkst ridiculous things i've heard. you just dont have the population or kaduna would be taraba or something.

Are u aware that Kaduna was carved out of old Kaduna state (which included Katsina)? During that time, southern kaduna people (christians) were extremely small in the state and Katsina and Zaria people dominated everything.

When Katsina left, they handed over to Zaria people and Kaduna state was designed to favour Hausa domination.
These are some of the reasons too.
Christians only started agitating or standing on their rights in Kaduna not too long ago.

Do u know that Ibrahim Nasiru Mantu a muslims was senator of Plateau central for 8yrs? (is Plateau central a muslim dominated zone? Hell no!). Taraba north has produced muslim senators and there was a time that all the 3 senators in Taraba state were muslims, despite the dominant christian populations in these states.
Most northern christians only started becoming religiously conscious recently when it comes to politics, in the past they were never like that.
We in Kogi till today do not give a Bleep about religion when it comes to politics.
Not everyone is a religious bigot like ur types

ianSweet:


See u? Do u know that Chad is also abt equal christians and muslim populations? But the muslims have turned the christians to second class citizens because they unite better.

The reason why christians dominate Eriteria is based on their history. The muslim tribes in Eriterea were like 3rd class citizens in old Ethiopia while the Tigrinya (the majority tribe in current Eritrea) had higher status in old Ethiopia.
Now that they are in a new country, all Eritrean christians are one tribe (Tigrunya), making it easy for them to speak as one, while the muslims are minority tribes (but put together make up abt half of the state).

Yes i dont dispute the fact that GEJ still won in southern kaduna in 2015 but the votes were low because many southern kaduna indigenes did not bother to come out to vote, that was why Buhari got abt 75% votes in the state.
What abt 2011 election? All the votes GEJ got in Kaduna were still from Southern kaduna but GEJ got abt 47% votes in the state (about 1,2 million). Same thing happened in Plateau. Know ur demographics!!

You dont know what you are saying, stop it. Chad isnt even close woman! You need to read one or two things small fry! Again eritrea has a slightly larger more united population, its that simple. Im glad you read up and realised the factor of ethnicity like i told you to.

Yes, but you forget to mention Namadi was able to buy him a lot of votes in northern kaduna as well. A lot of people from zaria voted for gej because of namadi! Id say know your demographics but frankly your problems are far more than just demographics. Your compass is just pointing the wrong direction on most issues.

DaPuncline:

So you expected me to clap for you after referring to my tribe as the weakest link ?
And about SS/SE solidarity: I believe you are aware how the urhobos, itsekiris, isoko dissociated themselves from biafra when IPOB protest was at its peak, mind you igbos don't recognize the edos as part of SS since they are being led by an APC governor.

The issue of Biafra is different. There r many igbo people who have never supported Biafra too, there r also some SS people who support Biafra.
Igbos have no right to determine who is SS or not, i think they only reject Edo inclusion into Biafra agitation because thry think Edo has more in common with the yorubas.
Imo is led by APC afterall.

ianSweet:


Are u aware that Kaduna was carved out of old Kaduna state (which included Katsina)? During that time, southern kaduna people (christians) were extremely small in the state and Katsina and Zaria people dominated everything.

When Katsina left, they handed over to Zaria people and Kaduna state was designed to favour Hausa domination.
These are some of the reasons too.
Christians only started agitating or standing on their rights in Kaduna not too long ago.

Do u know that Ibrahim Nasiru Mantu a muslims was senator of Plateau central for 8yrs? (is Plateau central a muslim dominated zone? Hell no!). Taraba north has produced muslim senators and there was a time that all the 3 senators in Taraba state were muslims, despite the dominant christian populations in these states.
Most northern christians only started becoming religiously conscious recently when it comes to politics, in the past they were never like that.
We in Kogi till today do not give a Bleep about religion when it comes to politics.
Not everyone is a religious bigot like ur types

Sister, you're too informed to engage that guy. All he knows how to is kick and insult. He hasn't made any noteworthy point since.

ianSweet:


Are u aware that Kaduna was carved out of old Kaduna state (which included Katsina)? During that time, southern kaduna people (christians) were extremely small in the state and Katsina and Zaria people dominated everything.

When Katsina left, they handed over to Zaria people and Kaduna state was designed to favour Hausa domination.
These are some of the reasons too.
Christians only started agitating or standing on their rights in Kaduna not too long ago.

Do u know that Ibrahim Nasiru Mantu a muslims was senator of Plateau central for 8yrs? (is Plateau central a muslim dominated zone? Hell no!). Taraba north has produced muslim senators and there was a time that all the 3 senators in Taraba state were muslims, despite the dominant christian populations in these states.
Most northern christians only started becoming religiously conscious recently when it comes to politics, in the past they were never like that.
We in Kogi till today do not give a Bleep about religion when it comes to politics.
Not everyone is a religious bigot like ur types

Why is it that whenever facts dont favor people they bring up conspiracy theories? Stop it with the whole designed to favor winnits. You spoke of religious consciousness in taraba yet you forget to mention kaduna christians are more religiously conscious than any group, especially given the riots! Yet, it wont change anything because they simply dont have the numbers. you speak of isolated incidences, instances of fallacy of composition. You clearly dont know how the north works. And i repeat, you dont know what bigotry is!

VomeSchakleton:


You dont know what you are saying, stop it. Chad isnt even close woman! You need to read one or two things small fry! Again eritrea has a slightly larger more united population, its that simple. Im glad you read up and realised the factor of ethnicity like i told you to.

Yes, but you forget to mention Namadi was able to buy him a lot of votes in northern kaduna as well. A lot of people from zaria voted for gej because of namadi! Id say know your demographics but frankly your problems are far more than just demographics. Your compass is just pointing the wrong direction on most issues.

LoL, am not even close? Who does not know that the Sara people are by far the largest tribe in Chad? And they are dominantly christians/animists? Pls, google is ur friend.
The Sara people were the ones producing presidents in Chad from the beginning (as the largest tribe) until the muslims united and today control the country.

Zaria voted for Namadi? How many votes? Are all the people in Zaria muslims? Tell that to people who have never been there b4.

malton:


Sister, you're too informed to engage that guy. All he knows how to is kick and insult. He hasn't made any noteworthy point since.

Small fry you should be too burt hurt to try to kiss up to a girl. She spews the warmest winnits and only a gullible mo.ron will eat it thinking its fried chicken. She lacks a basic knowledge of the most simple and obvious things.

But i wouldnt expect a Hot geezer with the iq of a 3 year old to understand.

malton:


Sister, you're too informed to engage that guy. All he knows how to is kick and insult. He hasn't made any noteworthy point since.

U are so correct broda. I have been wasting my facts on him since. He just knows so little to debate intelligently. I think i will decline him

kogirodent:

I am proud of you. Your knowledge of The north is perfect! What tribe in Kogi are you?

Am Igala but i grew up in Kaduna/Jos

ianSweet:


LoL, am not even close? Who does not know that the Sara people are by far the largest tribe in Chad? And they are dominantly christians/animists? Pls, google is ur friend.
The Sara people were the ones producing presidents in Chad from the beginning (as the largest tribe) until the muslims united and today control the country.

Zaria voted for Namadi? How many votes? Are all the people in Zaria muslims? Tell that to people who have never been there b4.

Google would tell yoy that 53 percent of chadians are muslims, i implore you to use the tools you recommend. Were not talking about the largest ethnicity! Stop calling them tribes, i dont know about them but i feel insulted when a person calls hausa a tribe so please adjust your diction.

Stop it okay? If i mention an isolated incidence of zazzagawas voting because of namadi a sane person would know im obviousky talking about the muslims. I emphasize sane!

ianSweet:


Am Igala but i grew up in Kaduna/Jos

You keep calling me a bigot but i have extended family from your ethnicity because my maternal great grand mother is idoma from benue. Being realistic doesnt make you a bigot

VomeSchakleton:


Small fry a muslim is a muslim but thats besides the point. And yes, kogi needs the north more than the north needs it. Im sad that the souths propaganda is planting the wrong messages in your heads, i miss the old days when the north is the north and we could execute coups together and install gowon as leader regardless of his religion but because hes a northerner. Thats the true spirit of the great white north.

Kogi needs the north my foot.
I really dont blame core northerners. Our middlebelt leaders and elders have sold our identity.
True spirit of the great white north my foot. Every action of a united north is always centred on satisfying hausa-fulani expansionism. We are wiser now. Things will soon change.

ianSweet:


U are so correct broda. I have been wasting my facts on him since. He just knows so little to debate intelligently. I think i will decline him

Again i will tell you what i told a small fry like you earlier. I doubt theres an intellectual equal of mine in your family, this is a bare fact. Not the chicken dance youve been doing with pointless words. The little i know i doubt can be spread across the minds in your family without them suffering seizures. Again, bare fact!

ianSweet:


U are so correct broda. I have been wasting my facts on him since. He just knows so little to debate intelligently. I think i will decline him

Seriously fa. It will save you a lot of time. At first, I thought he was up to scratch, then I discovered that he's just a regular Joe who uses insults to mask his deficiencies. Na so I zoom off. Ba lokaci.

VomeSchakleton:


Google would tell yoy that 53 percent of chadians are muslims, i implore you to use the tools you recommend. Were not talking about the largest ethnicity! Stop calling them tribes, i dont know about them but i feel insulted when a person calls hausa a tribe so please adjust your diction.

Stop it okay? If i mention an isolated incidence of zazzagawas voting because of namadi a sane person would know im obviousky talking about the muslims. I emphasize sane!

Very good. For google to tell u dat 53% of Chadians are muslims, this should tell u dat the population is almost equal, the northern chadians r mostly muslims while the southern christians and animists make up the remainder. So why did u tell me that i was not close in the beginning??

Of course Zazagawas will vote Namadi but a large portion of them being Zazagawa christians.
Most southern kaduna indigene muslims always vote Buhari afterall and that did not make them Zaria people.