oglalasioux:


In Ishielu LGA alone, you have Ezillo speaking a totally different dialect, Iyonu speaking another dialect. Nkalagu and Umuhali speak another version of the Nkanu dialect while Nkalaha and Obegu speak the Nsukka dialect. That's 4.

Then you have Izzi, Ezza, Ikwo and Ngbo/Izhia making 8 dialects. When you add Afikpo, Ivo and Ohaozara you have total of 11 dialects.

Note that I didn't add the non Igbo speaking parts of the State such as Effium, Ofurekpe, Ntezi, Okpoto and Amuda.

Enugu State has 5 dialects namely Nkanu, Awgu, Udi and Nsukka. Anambra has 3 dialects, Umunze, Onitsha and Aguleri (except the northern Igala speaking communities). Abia has 3, Isukwato, Ngwa and Arochukwu. Imo has 3, Mbaise, Owerri and Okigwe.

So no Igbo state has more dialects than Ebonyi state.

On your stance that Ngbo people are not related to the Idomas you may be right. I base my argument on the sound of their words and similarities in their names such as Agbo and Agala among others.

kogirodent:

Igbos are not far off from Igalas bro. Some of the folks i know as Igalas i will have to admit are not full or real Igalas. We dn't need to look at them twice to know dat dey hail from the Igbo border areas. De only issue is that there are of mixed ancestry so u can't say which tribe dey really are. E.g Ibaji and Odolu Igalas.

Orikinla:
Do Kogi Igbo girls behave like Igbo girls in the East?

Sirlovings:



Must you exhibit your hatred for Igbo people on every comment?

I understand that you are a young person but being young doesn't mean that you should be dumb.

Creation of regions and later states divided many communities which resulted to many igbo communities falling into neighbouring states that are not predominantly Igbo.

After the civil war, it was another way for Nigeria government to ensure that Igbos remain in a United Nigeria.

bigfrancis21:


Ette as a community speak three different languages. While a large population of Ette people speak Idoma language, others speak Igbo and Igala. This had been the situation right from the old Eastern Region through the defunct East Central State, to old Anambra State; old Enugu State and now the present Enugu State. Christians, who are of the Catholic denomination had also been in the Immaculate Heart Parish, Aji, Enugu–Ezike in the Catholic Archdiocese of Nsukka until it became a full fledged parish – St. James the Apostle Parish, Ette, on September 28,1998.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/34-enugu-schools-shut-for-5-yrs-over-pro-kogi-agitations/

In the past, our ancestors moved from one place to the other in search of greener pastures
as well as favourable place of settlement. As they move, inter-marry and intermingle with other
ethnic groups, so did their languages. This is precisely the case with Ette people with regard to
their historical background. Ette community is made up of nine clans namely: Ogodo, Emenebe,
Aishi, Ochigide, Onodaba, Achanya, Ebe and Adokpe.
(Note than none of these clans are Igbo)

The nine clans constitute two EQUAL and
separate ethnic groups; one half speaks Idoma while the other half speaks Igala.

The percentage of this ethnic identity is confirmed by the result of our questionnaire in order to ascertain the
language that has the highest percentage with regard to ethnic identity and proficiency.
The Ette community speaks Idoma and Igala with an estimated population of about
39000 (1963 population census).

bigfrancis21:


The images I uploaded on the first page says otherwise. From the list you can see various communities in Kogi state with Igbo names such as Umuoye, Umuochina etc. One of the prominent Igbo-speaking communities in Kogi is the Eke Avurugo community where Igbo is spoken as first language and Igala as second language.

In addition to many Igalas speaking Igbo as second language, would it not follow that these/some Igalas in southern Igala land are of Igbo origin and not due to linguistic proximity? The one or two Igala-speaking villages in Igboland are readily assumed to be Igala of origin, however the Igbo-speaking Igalas are not related to Igbo in anyway?? Ibaji Igala, as you probably know, is heavily influenced by the Igbo language. However, it would not be satisfactory enough to assume that the dialect was just influenced by Igbo language without acknowledging some possible Igbo migration in the area, just as some Igalas migrated southwards towards Igboland, in substantial numbers to influence the Ibaji dialect? Even the 'core' Igalas of Idah, Dekina, Ofu etc. often regard Ibaji Igalas as 'omo Igbo' and don't see them as 'core' Igalas.

bigfrancis21:


Anambra Igbo is not central. I am just hearing this for the first time. I am from Anambra. We speak and maintain our various 'Anambra dialects' which are similar to each other. Onitsha Igbo is easily understandable by most in Anambra and Igboland but it is not central Igbo. Also, observing Onitsha and central Igbo, you would find out both are similar in sentence lexicon but many words in central Igbo come from southern Igboland - Umuahia etc.

ianSweet:


I never disputed the fact that there are igala communities of Igbo origin in Kogi state, what i said is that the people of those communities now identify as igala ethnically.
Not just Ibaji or Olamaboro communities.
Onicha-Igo is a town in Ofu LGA and the name appears Igbo, there r towns in northern igala land that have igbo names and origins. So it's not just about the names.

But the case of igalas in the SE and SS is different because many of them still identify as Igala ethnically despite the strong igbo political and cultural influence on them.

It's normal, northern igalas have derogatory names for southern igalas and we also have for them too, even the northern igalas themselves have derogatory names for each other.

Clinton9000:


That's why I have spent my time educating Afonjas of Igbo communities in SS and MB so that when another civil war starts, they don't foolishly run into Igbo communities seeking for help thinking we are online and everything is propaganda and joke. Honestly two sensible yorubas have contacted me privately and thanked because they never thought such large Igbo communities existed in those communities outside SE. But the Afonjas among them will keep living in self denial until war starts...foolishly run into Igbo areas thinking they are not Igbos, that day they will be used for ngwobi and isi ewu.

ianSweet:


I never disputed the fact that there are igala communities of Igbo origin in Kogi state, what i said is that the people of those communities now identify as igala ethnically.
Not just Ibaji or Olamaboro communities.
Onicha-Igo is a town in Ofu LGA and the name appears Igbo, there r towns in northern igala land that have igbo names and origins. So it's not just about the names.

But the case of igalas in the SE and SS is different because many of them still identify as Igala ethnically despite the strong igbo political and cultural influence on them.

It's normal, northern igalas have derogatory names for southern igalas and we also have for them too, even the northern igalas themselves have derogatory names for each other.

giles14:
well good for u .
try going to other parts of igboland wen u speak anambra dey undastnd but wen dey speak theirs u will b lost.

so now which is central

Joavid:


provide the "every comment" you are ranting about?

If anything, I stay clear of tribal e-clashes and banters but Kogi is my state and it seems what the Afonjas are saying about you Igbos are true.

e-diot!



and shut the F** up and do your research. you're so dumb.


how about you do your research and tell me exactly why there are Igbos communities in Kogi and why are they particularly close to the border of Kogi-Anambra??

bigfrancis21:


Aren't the Idomas in the majority in Ette, followed by Igala? Then Igbo? It seems to me that the Igalas are trying to lay ownership to Ette town as they seem to be doing to other places of recent.

bigfrancis21:


Anambra Igbo is not central. I am just hearing this for the first time. I am from Anambra. We speak and maintain our various 'Anambra dialects' which are similar to each other. Onitsha Igbo is easily understandable by most in Anambra and Igboland but it is not central Igbo. Also, observing Onitsha and central Igbo, you would find out both are similar in sentence lexicon but many words in central Igbo come from southern Igboland - Umuahia etc.

babyfaceafrica:
Ohomorihi avohi

OmoIgala:


Exactly.
Igga, Ojjor, Ogurugu, Adani are all Original Igala towns that have now been labelled "Igbo" because of silly colonial mistakes.

ianSweet:


How do u know it is their native language? They must be fluently billingual. Billinguals at tribal boundary areas usually have the choice to claim whatever ethnicities they wish. I am yet to see any person from southern igala who claims igbo ethnicity even if his or her community is fluent in igbo.

ianSweet:


The idomas migrated there. Study idoma history, they left Kwararafa some few centuries ago and came to Igalas and settled close to us, the Tiv migrations further drove them even into most of our lands (according to historians).
So, any community u find where igalas and idomas live closely or together, u just know the idomas came there..

Ette does not share land boundary with any idoma community nor Benue state, but share with igala communities, thats how u know.

Joavid:


good someone understands.

If people from all states bordering Kogi come and settle in Kogi, then Kogi will be the state with highest minority groups.

Lovelynature:
Are you from Ohaozara? Southern part of Ebonyi speak and understand themselves, though with little differences. Same with the northern part; they understand themselves.

The northern and southern parts of the state don't even understand themselves.

I have been to both Ebonyi North and South.
That state is really a great one but bad government and lack of sound education keeps her behind.

Can you imagine that Edda is the first place where oil was first discovered in Nigeria

ianSweet:


How do u know it is their native language? They must be fluently billingual. Billinguals at tribal boundary areas usually have the choice to claim whatever ethnicities they wish. I am yet to see any person from southern igala who claims igbo ethnicity even if his or her community is fluent in igbo.

Clinton9000:


Yes I agree with you...Anambra Igbo is central. Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi, Delta and Rivers have many dialects. What's funny is all these many Igbo dialects speakers even those in Delta like Agbor, and Rivers Ikwerre understand Anambra central Igbo well well. That's why most Rivers marry from Anambra...Peter Odili, Ameachi, Hon. Nwuche, Amadi, I mean all of them that I know marry mostly from Anambra. I lived in PH for 5 yrs, 1 out of every 3 married Ikwerres I knew, married from Anambra or Enugu. We all know Anambra and Enugu are one people except the Nnsuka that have Igala mix up and dialect.

murphyibiam15:


Please stop misquoting me and stop ches beating....I never said anambra Igbo is central in essence...I meant they had their own dialect but lost it to central igbo and many still dont care about their dialect in Anambra so far they can speak central igbo.....places like Aguleri, Orumba and awka still maintain their strong dialects and even ihiala.

As per marraige anybody can marry from anywhere he or she so wishes ...there is nothing specaial about it.

Finally Enugu state is Enugu state with Nsukka inclusive....stop attaching to Enugu BC of Enugu city while dissociating Nsukka.....take care

bigfrancis21:


Anambra Igbo is not central. I am just hearing this for the first time. I am from Anambra. We speak and maintain our various 'Anambra dialects' which are similar to each other. Onitsha Igbo is easily understandable by most in Anambra and Igboland but it is not central Igbo. Also, observing Onitsha and central Igbo, you would find out both are similar in sentence lexicon but many words in central Igbo come from southern Igboland - Umuahia etc.

bigfrancis21:


How do the Effium, Ntezi, Okpoto etc. peoples communicate with other Igbos in Ebonyi state?

ianSweet:


How do u know it is their native language? They must be fluently billingual. Billinguals at tribal boundary areas usually have the choice to claim whatever ethnicities they wish. I am yet to see any person from southern igala who claims igbo ethnicity even if his or her community is fluent in igbo.

ianSweet:


No pls, they speak Igala as a first language and igbo as a second language. Although it varies among some individuals. Some speak igbo more. Some answer igala names, some answer igbo names. I have been to these places. I am from southern igala.

petsam11:
Oh Lord! Please, I beg of you anything that will bring all Igbo's from outside the south east (the south south and the North central/middle belt) together as one is what I pray for! #IgboNileBuOtu

Emeka2007:


so true. I once read a write up of how german words where converted to English by replacing 'f' with 'ph', 'k' with 'c' as in close etc.

bigfrancis21:


Anyway, lots of migrations occurred in the past. People often ventured out to settle in new areas. The Idomas may have migrated to Ette, so also did the Igalas too...it then becomes a question of who got there first. However, the Idomas have ownership rights to Ette just as the Igbos and Igalas in Ette. I learned that there are 5 communities within Ette. Do you know their names?

By the foregoing, the Igalas may not have much rights to drag the entire Ette into Kogi state being that they are not the majority in Ette. They should understand that Ette has become a trilingual area and thus no one tribe can claim ownership to Ette. The Idomas and Igbos in Ette prefer being in Enugu state, the Igalas are dragging to include it in Kogi out of political reasons, being that some pro-Igala Ette natives joined the army, police or other security agencies or the civil service, under the false claims that they were natives of Kogi State. Some of the people who falsely entered the federal and state civil services of the neighbouring states have now retired and have found out that they can not get political appointments from Kogi State, knowing that they are not from there. They now resorted to engineering problems, claiming that Ette is in Kogi State.